Hey guys!
When it comes to getting AOSP/CM ported to the P9 Lite,we are "attached to another object by an inclined plane and wrapped helically around an axis" because we don't have an actual dev who owns the phone itself.
Well,how about this cutesy suggestion?
What do you guys think about making a sort of a kickstarter to get a phone for an excellent dev? The same thing was done for my previous phone,the Alcatel Idol 3 5.5,and it will get a pretty much fully functional CM13 build despite Alcatels disguisting modifications which broke many things in CM(similar story with Huawei and CM).
I already have a few devs in mind,but I think it is better to first ask if we can actually make it.
And I bet I am not the only one thinking it is a much better idea to actually put our heads together and get a phone to a capable person than to give donations to individuals(like me or others) who smack into a wall in every turn while trying to get CM/AOSP to work.
I made this thread just to see if there actually is a good number of people who are interested, soooo...whoever can contribute,feel free to drop a reply!
Good idea!
That is such a good idea! I would love to see CM13 on the P9 lite since I love CM more than EMUI, I would donate and I hope it's gonna work out!
+1! I'd love having Cyanogenmod for P9 lite. I'd donate but for under a few conditions such as full support, debugging, etc. I'd love to see Resurrection Remix for P9 lite, that would be amazing!
first we need a dev who will accept this... but i don't think people will donate... in the old days, maybe... but now users just take the devs for granted and they want everything free... like they deserve it... but hey... maybe I'm wrong... count me in
snapdesign said:
first we need a dev who will accept this... but i don't think people will donate... in the old days, maybe... but now users just take the devs for granted and they want everything free... like they deserve it... but hey... maybe I'm wrong... count me in
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I have a few devs in mind,they are all extremely capable,but we need to get the fond of around 300$,right?
Even if we don't hit 300$,if we gather even 150$,it will make it easier and more compelling for the dev to buy the device.
We can also ask the Honor 5C owners,since they can literally use the CM source of the P9 lite(the p8 Lite uses the cm builds of the Honor 4C,they are identical inside). They will probably be willing to help as well.
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There,made a thread there as well!
Love the idea. Would donate too but how do we know that the money really goes to the dev?
ndroid1562 said:
Love the idea. Would donate too but how do we know that the money really goes to the dev?
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I did it for the Idol 3 users and it worked fine.
As far as I know,the fund raiser is linked to the receiver,and when a sufficient amount is gathered,the money can be pulled.
The Recognized Dev is Meticulus.
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We used https://www.gofundme.com
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Ok, as far as I can see we are now 4 donators: Thijs van Hal, The Marionette, Memovic and me. Ten donators who spend 30 dollars would be ok in my opinion. How can we arrive more people here. I saw this topic just per coincidence.
This is a good idea afterall. I will contribute if needed
So are there only four persons who want tho donate?? If we gather 6 persons it would also be nice.. so everyone would have to pay 50 euro. We need two more persons
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So are there only four persons who want tho donate?? If we gather 6 persons it would also be nice.. so everyone would have to pay 50 euro. We need two more persons
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I hope the Honor 5C users decide to help out. They can use the cm source for the p9 lite, everything will work and vice versa.
I think the Honor 5c is cheaper,so we are better off getting it instead. They are the same phones on the inside,they just have different outer bodies.
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The Marionette said:
I did it for the Idol 3 users and it worked fine.
As far as I know,the fund raiser is linked to the receiver,and when a sufficient amount is gathered,the money can be pulled.
The Recognized Dev is Meticulus.
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We used https://www.gofundme.com
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Hello everyone,
gofundme.com is not going to work for me. I prefer to use paypal and gofundme does not work with paypal. I suggest that you just use the "Donate to me" button and I'll keep a public tally until the goal amount is reached. About $260.
Looking forward to working on this device...
The Marionette said:
I have a few devs in mind,they are all extremely capable,but we need to get the fond of around 300$,right?
Even if we don't hit 300$,if we gather even 150$,it will make it easier and more compelling for the dev to buy the device.
We can also ask the Honor 5C owners,since they can literally use the CM source of the P9 lite(the p8 Lite uses the cm builds of the Honor 4C,they are identical inside). They will probably be willing to help as well.
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There,made a thread there as well!
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If it's possible to be done also by paypal, why not? That could more compelling for some more people.
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If it's possible to be done also by paypal, why not? That could more compelling for some more people.
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Yeah,since Go Fund Me doesn't work with Paypal anymore(people can donate over it,but the funds can't be withdrawn over Paypal),so it is far easier to just donate through the "Donate to me" button.
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Any news ???
Abdulla7 said:
Any news ???
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$0 dollars donated...
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$0 dollars donated...
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See this
https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/127962-device-request-for-huawei-p9-lite/
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There is still no answer in the Honor 5C forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5c/help/how-device-developer-t3455496
First we need enough persons who donate. If the users Abdulla7 and Nomatrix want to spend too we are 6 donators. That would mean 50 dollars for each person.
My suggestion is: Each User spends 50 Dollar over PayPal. If the other users are not donating within one week everybody takes his / her money back (Buyer protection of paypal). But is it even possible to claim your money back in paypal after one week?
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There is still no answer in the Honor 5C forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5c/help/how-device-developer-t3455496
First we need enough persons who donate. If the users Abdulla7 and Nomatrix want to spend too we are 6 donators. That would mean 50 dollars for each person.
My suggestion is: Each User spends 50 Dollar over PayPal. If the other users are not donating within one week everybody takes his / her money back (Buyer protection of paypal). But is it even possible to claim your money back in paypal after one week?
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I'm not going to take your money. :laugh: I will refund the money if the goal amount is not reached. :good:
@Meticulus
You're signing up for an awesome (???) experience with developing on Kirin SoC. Wish you good luck!
And why people hit the CM forum for development requests. They just act like if the developers are getting paid by them to develop ROMs.
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17 November 2014: Goal has been reached and tablet is now in the hands of RaymanFX. Still feel free to support and donate to help him continue to prepare for his upcoming works. You can see his progress at github.com/raymanfx and
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/status:open+exynos,n,z
Under Christopher Hesse
Hello everyone,
I am creating this thread on behalf of @RaymanFX , a recognized developer who needs a device to develop for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3463426
He is looking to develop for the P600, WiFi only model and is looking to make AOSP/CM roms and kernels for us.
Here is a previous thread of his: http://forum.xda-developers.com/find-7/orig-development/rom-teameos-revival-nightlies-t2826587
And here is a list of previous threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=319162976
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most of you probably don't know me since I did not develop for Samsung devices for quite some time now.
I would be interested in aiding the Exynos 5420 development scene (in particular on the Galaxy Note 10.1) and prepare a custom Android distribution for it (Team EOS 5.0 - Lollipop).
I can get all the required drivers and binaries I need for development, since most of it is open source luckily.
And the Nexus 10 (manta) can still be used as reference for many things.
All I need is a development device to debug on.
It is particularly important that this is the Galaxy Note 10.1 EXYNOS (WiFi-only variant), and not the LTE (Qualcomm) variant.
I created this thread to ask whether someone has a spare device lying around, maybe because of the little development on Exynos 5 devices, or if people would be willing to donate a device (I'm a university student and unfortunately can not afford the full price for a new device. I'm willing to dive into the Exynos development scene and spend time on this device though, including extensive debugging).
Thank you two for your reasonable thoughts.
I think the main reason why the previous developers stopped developing for this device rather quickly is the Exynos chip.
The main difference between me and anyone else is (or so I believe) the fact that I am especially interested in developing for the Exynos 5420 chip and the drivers for it (mainly from the Insignal forum source).
As far as bricked devices, I can say I had a Samsung device before, and as long as the bootloader is unlockable and access to ODIN (The firmware flashing tool) is granted, a hard brick is rather hard to achieve. I see little risk here, and I assume my previous development experience will prevent me from making major mistakes in that regard.
A new device would cost me approximately 350€, so if we could collect about 300$ with donations (which would equal something like 270€), I'd pay the remaining costs.
People are of course free to check my development history and/or references first and see if they think I would benefit the aosp development scene for this device.
The ROM I mentioned (Team EOS 5.0 lollipop) is essentially AOSP 5.0 with selected features that we code ourselves, like EOS Weather, or the NX gesture interface.
If people however see the need for an official CM maintainer, I'd be happy to become this as well, all I need is a device to debug and develop on, I'd be willing to spend the time to officially maintain this device.
Other developers and/or contributors should also expect support from me in areas of kernel development or AOSP custom ROM development. I believe in 'sharing is caring', so all my knowledge and achievements on this device shall benefit the community.
If some of you could maybe contact the people who raised donations before, I'd be thankful and gratious for the support. All donations will be listed here and the whole process shall be as transparent as possible.
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Original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...laxy-note-10-1-2014-exynos-developer-t2936508
He is very committed to getting this device and developing for us so let's get him this device. He needs at least $300 so just write below how much you would be willing to donate if the funds were raised for the device. I will update this post with the names and how much people are willing to donate :good:
If at least 30 people donate say $10 for example then we can do this easily. I pledge $10 dollars so lets get this started!!
List of donations so far:
Euro:
22sl22: €10
@r4yN €20
@benni_1994 €20
@GrimReaper1908 €15
@ollimi1 €10
@henriavelabarbe €25
@murmlgrmpf €10
@TOMMY1985 €10
@zazael €10
@rglebien €10
@SubZeroEffort €20
Dollars:
@emilycloud $20
@mrtoast $30
@benjamimgois $10
@talz13 $50
@mikep2323 $25
@buffalo_guy $20
@bokmob $25
@redbaron $20
@JosephFeliciano013 $5
@jwjessie488 $20
@aelunyu $25
@MxCraft $30
@Googfan $15
Total so far: Approx.€403/$503
20$ from me (sry I'm a poor student )
We'll be doing this via PayPal, I assume?
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20$ from me (sry I'm a poor student )
We'll be doing this via PayPal, I assume?
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$20 is perfect, any donations are helpful
Yes PayPal. If you look at his profile there's a link there. I'll add your name to the list :good:
Alright, I've just donated 20€ (which equals ~25$ if I'm not mistaken). It would be great, if @RaymanFX confirmed the transaction (I've refered to XDA in the transaction note, but if you need the transaction ID, write me a PN)
PS: I know I said I'd donate 20$, but I figured since he's german, I could just as well donate 20€ instead :highfive:
And I also know that you usually don't donate until enough pledges have been made, but I have faith that we will make it. And if we don't, well, consider it a donation for the effort, lol
Edit: Transaction ID # 89F56830A9644882H
$365 on eBay (refurbished)
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-...1386122200?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item2a3b7493d8
r4yN said:
Alright, I've just donated 20€ (which equals ~25$ if I'm not mistaken). It would be great, if @RaymanFX confirmed the transaction (I've refered to XDA in the transaction note, but if you need the transaction ID, write me a PN)
PS: I know I said I'd donate 20$, but I figured since he's german, I could just as well donate 20€ instead :highfive:
And I also know that you usually don't donate until enough pledges have been made, but I have faith that we will make it. And if we don't, well, consider it a donation for the effort, lol
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Hey, thanks a ton
I can cofirm the 20€ (!) donation is now on my PayPal account.
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Hey, thanks a ton
I can cofirm the 20€ (!) donation is now on my PayPal account.
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thanks for confirming
Btw since you're german, THIS might be an interesting offer (although I'm not sure about the warranty)
265€ = ~330$ (free shipping within germany)
I'll donate 20€ at the end of the month!
You can add me on the list
Is there anyway to donate directly from debit card? Paypal has problems with my card and renders the service unusable.
Pazzu510 said:
Is there anyway to donate directly from debit card? Paypal has problems with my card and renders the service unusable.
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It depends. If you live in Germany it will obviously be easier. If not, it depends from country to country. What country are you in?
Hi there,
nice to see that at least one person is not scared away by the exynos cpu
You can count me in for 15€
I have a question though:
How is this handled? Are we donating all at once when enough people have expressed their will to donate?
Or should I already donate so that you can be sure that I'm serious?
GrimReaper1908 said:
Hi there,
nice to see that at least one person is not scared away by the exynos cpu
You can count me in for 15€
I have a question though:
How is this handled? Are we donating all at once when enough people have expressed their will to donate?
Or should I already donate so that you can be sure that I'm serious?
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The donating is a personal thing. I worded things in the op to be safe. It's just easier if people pledge, say they are gonna donate, and then once the amount has been reached people can actually donate.
Say for example, there are no pledges and we raise 200 dollars that people have already donated in a few weeks and then people lose interest and not a lot of donations come in anymore. I don't want people to be angry if the dev doesn't end up getting the tablet. :good:
Better to pledge but if you want to donate right now that's fine. Either way i'll add you to the list
Could you in the title add that this is for the exynos variant. It mislead me into thinking this was for the snapdragon until I read a little.
Ok I'm in for $20. Maybe a little more if we get close! Awesome guys.
In for $30 ?
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I just sent $10... hope that helps !
I'm in for $50
Hey everyone,
just letting you know I was donated another 10€ yesterday, so we're at over 200$ now!
That's more than 2/3 of our goal, so there's only 100$ left.
Keep on going, we're almost there now.
Thanks to the community for having so much faith in me and enabling development for this device.
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Hey everyone,
just letting you know I was donated another 10€ yesterday, so we're at over 200$ now!
That's more than 2/3 of our goal, so there's only 100$ left.
Keep on going, we're almost there now.
Thanks to the community for having so much faith in me and enabling development for this device.
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Yes, only 100 dollars left now, we are nearly there! This is going really well.
Do you have the name of the person who donated? I can add them to the list :good:
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Hey everyone,
just letting you know I was donated another 10€ yesterday, so we're at over 200$ now!
That's more than 2/3 of our goal, so there's only 100$ left.
Keep on going, we're almost there now.
Thanks to the community for having so much faith in me and enabling development for this device.
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Ill throw in 25 dollars. Would you like me to donate now? If yes I can do when I get home.
Dear community,
recently we've spoken to Codeworkx, recognized senior developer, and he agreed to try to build CM for Honor 6. I think it's a GREAT NEWS!
The only problem is that he does not have handset for the testing, which is a must!
So, I am asking all of you interested in CM for Honor 6, and I have seen there are many of us, to collect the money, so Codeworkx can buy a handset for the purpose of the testing.
The easiest way is to send him your donations via his paypal account, you can see details under his profile.
As soon as he collects enough money he would let us know.
Yeah, it is based on trust guys. Please do not forget he does it in his spare time, not asking any reward for that...
@codeworkx, is that fine with u?
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Sounds like a plan. Deal!
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Stable Bitcoins accepted?
something to start with, come on guys, it's your turn...
Transaction details
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 5CW2798474741123D)
Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
Jan 24, 2015 Payment For Daniel Hillenbrand Completed ... -€15,00 EUR
Done!
What if the money we donate doesn't match the price of the handset?
Will the money be returned to us or @codeworkx will keep them for other project or for himself (no offence codeworkx ) or he will constribute money too, in order to buy the device? In my singature there is a list of "safe" shops to buy from and a comparison of the for the H60-L02 version. These are some logical questions and I have no intention to insult anyone.
Donation made!
Donated!
Transaction ID: 3HT418598V015562F
Good Luck, hope we reach the target soon. Keep us posted!!
Donated!
ID: 02P38225L0303083T
done!
@RomanosN you're right.
I'd like to start a fundraising campaign but now the better way should be to continue to donate by PayPal.
Only 2 recommendations:
- please write how much you donate (even if 1$) in order to improve donations and make public how much we have collected. We can also post a countdown
- don't forget we can also support other developers' work (like spanorg's one), or find new devs who likes to develop for h6.
OK?
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@RomanosN you're right.
I'd like to start a fundraising campaign but now the better way should be to continue to donate by PayPal.
Only 2 recommendations:
- please write how much you donate (even if 1$) in order to improve donations and make public how much we have collected. We can also post a countdown
- don't forget we can also support other developers' work (like spanorg's one), or find new devs who likes to develop for h6.
OK?
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Although you don't answer my questions, I will support the funding and I hope everything will go OK. :cyclops:
Transaction ID #56275676KU0933002 - 20$
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What if the money we donate doesn't match the price of the handset?
Will the money be returned to us or @codeworkx will keep them for other project or for himself (no offence codeworkx ) or he will constribute money too, in order to buy the device? In my singature there is a list of "safe" shops to buy from and a comparison of the for the H60-L02 version. These are some logical questions and I have no intention to insult anyone.
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i'll go out and drink some beer from the collected money.
Just kidding. I'll add the missing bucks.
Current: 122 Eur.
Phone is currenlty at 299 Eur.
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Hello, @codeworkx you can buy the 2Sim/4G Version from vickmall. It costs 270€ and the shop is very trustworthy!! Let's hope you will make it and help in the development of this great phone!!
codeworkx said:
i'll go out and drink some beer from the collected money.
Just kidding. I'll add the missing bucks.
Current: 122 Eur.
Phone is currenlty at 299 Eur.
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Drink a beer to my name :fingers-crossed:
kaliakman said:
Hello, @codeworkx you can buy the 2Sim/4G Version from vickmall. It costs 270€ and the shop is very trustworthy!! Let's hope you will make it and help in the development of this great phone!!
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Our lte bands in germany/eu are different.
Afaik only L04 supports the right ones.
codeworkx said:
Our lte bands in germany/eu are different.
Afaik only L04 supports the right ones.
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The differences between L02/12 and L04 are very few so maybe it will possible to port the CM to L02/12 too...
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Current: 122 Eur.
Phone is currenlty at 299 Eur.
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If that helps in any way, I'm trying to sell mine (good as new) for €250. It may help as it's cheaper than a brand new unit, and I don't need it since I have another phone anyway.
Just adding some info: its bootloader is already unlocked, CWM recovery installed and rooted too.
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The differences between L02/12 and L04 are very few so maybe it will possible to port the CM to L02/12 too...
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If there's support for one, there will be support for all.
i Just Donate with 10$ . (Transaction ID #3PC94101RC4331424)
i hope every thing will be better .
Thank you Mr. Developer , and who help him to be here .
by the way i own L02 version .
20€
Transaktionscode 41K47990A1005021G
@codeworkx
Hab dir ne kleine Nachricht bei PayPal gelassen. Viel Glück im Leben und was du noch gebrauchen kannst!
See the next post for details.
Firstly, I want to thank all the users of the original FunkyHuawei. Due to costs involved, I can no longer offer FunkyHuawei as a donation-based program.
This thread is to provide support to those using the service to recover/update/rebrand their Mate 9/Mate 9 Pro, and to get feedback. Check the free credits thread to get a free credit which you can use for the service, exclusive for XDA members.
duraaraa said:
(...) Because it is not compatible with Paypal, and will no longer be a donation system (...) hopefully I will have many of you as subscribers with the new version. (...)
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Any idea what we can expect pricing wise or if (actual) donators can carry (some of) their donation over to any new system?
Valuta said:
Any idea what we can expect pricing wise or if (actual) donators can carry (some of) their donation over to any new system?
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Pricing will be between $15 to $30 per month for individuals with one device. The higher price plan includes technical support, the lower price doesn't. It will be between $200 and $300 for businesses/resellers who are flashing multiple phones (this was a big problem with original FunkyHuawei, and has cost me a lot.)
As for those who donated, if you donated equal to or less than the recommended donation, no. If you donated more generously than the recommended donation, or donated the recommended donation very recently, I will refund the first charges from the new service. If you are one of those people, contact support once the new site launches.
If i understood correctly, than:
The developement here will go to an end.
I understand, that everyone wants to earn something. Theese are everyones rights. But now it will be like that, if something happened to your device, pay and it will be fixed, if no sit with your brick.
I am supporting, 100% about those business/ressellers e.t.c that use it, maybe donating 30$ flashing 10000000 phones and earning x100 more than donated.
This system would be ideal for them.If its business then it shall be like that.
As for the XDA Community:This is not fair.
Some people will do that, but the most part i think not.
We will loose many mate 9 users in the end. And i can bet, that someone will try to do free alternatives after time. Wouldnt it bee better, to seperate us xda users, from business.
Ok we all can donate, most of us, but i can bet that there are people who cant.
Im not saying that im not supporting this idea, but also im not saying that i support.
Hi, I was actually considering using your service but asking $30 per month per user per phone is absurd. Companies, phone resellers OK but for a private person who wants to enjoy his phone I think this is a total ripoff, no matter how much time you put into it. I hope your business fares well though!
Time to sell my Mate 9.
Good luck with funky 2.0.
I've donated more than 50 euros just to recover my phone. But I'm not paying one more cent for things that are free in other devices. Next time I will buy other phone model. This is too much.
albertobom said:
Time to sell my Mate 9.
Good luck with funky 2.0.
I've donated more than 50 euros just to recover my phone. But I'm not paying one more cent for things that are free in other devices. Next time I will buy other phone model. This is too much.
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blackspp said:
Hi, I was actually considering using your service but asking $30 per month per user per phone is absurd. Companies, phone resellers OK but for a private person who wants to enjoy his phone I think this is a total ripoff, no matter how much time you put into it. I hope your business fares well though!
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Yep, this is what im talking about.
Xda users must be kept seperate.
Business users are business users.
Go to he'll mate 9 and all Huawei products. We will leave u and ur company playing together and make money from air. But all companies will support their phones as that is the fair and the duty for every company if it would to be at the top. Thanks and goodbye.
All the phones listed doesn't need ur tool to flash firmwares, only mate 9 for now need it.
I'm sure lot of people are working to find a way for mate9.
We are @ XDA,So some patience and ur tool will be useless.
I agree with a lot that was said on both sides of the argument. Somehow a distinction should be made between users on XDA that have a DIY attitude and want to play with their own device with businesses that are rebranding multiple phones and trying to make big bucks.
Clearly running a business on XDA is against forum rules so presumably Funky Huawei will be moving elsewhere. While I hadn't used it I tried to keep up with what was happening. Sorry to see it go....
See item 8 on "Donations"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
mscion said:
I agree with a lot that was said on both sides of the argument. Somehow a distinction should be made between users on XDA that have a DIY attitude and want to play with their own device with businesses that are rebranding multiple phones and trying to make big bucks.
Clearly running a business on XDA is against forum rules so presumably Funky Huawei will be moving elsewhere. While I hadn't used it I tried to keep up with what was happening. Sorry to see it go....
See item 8 on "Donations"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
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I don't plan to market FunkyHuawei on XDA, but I think item 11 would allow me to continue supporting people using it, if I keep up an active support thread like I've been doing. The rules are a bit unclear in that regard. So long as it's done with an intention of supporting, as opposed to selling, I think I can maintain a presence.
Anyway, I do very well understand the complaints of people who would prefer it to be more free. Unfortunately, until there is a universal income, extremely large amounts of bandwidth and storage are free, or I'm otherwise rich enough to afford not working, I can't do it like that -- it's simply not possible. This is the only way I can continue to operate it.
An alternative might be found, I might not get users, and it might not do well, but I'll do my best to have my service be an option to people who want or need it. As for those who don't want to use it, I can very well understand their reasons, and wish them the best of luck finding a less resource-intensive method to flash the phone.
Having thought about what I can do to help people who can't afford it, I will, as a compromise, come up with a free way to use the service, limited to XDA members who are not reselling or flashing large numbers of phones. For obvious reasons, I can't give unlimited open free access to everyone, but I can schedule time blocks for particular people to use the service for free. I will come up with details for that plan and announce it here later.
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I agree with a lot that was said on both sides of the argument. Somehow a distinction should be made between users on XDA that have a DIY attitude and want to play with their own device with businesses that are rebranding multiple phones and trying to make big bucks.
Clearly running a business on XDA is against forum rules so presumably Funky Huawei will be moving elsewhere. While I hadn't used it I tried to keep up with what was happening. Sorry to see it go....
See item 8 on "Donations"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
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Yes, agree.
I was also thinking if this isnt breaking the rules.
duraaraa said:
I don't plan to market FunkyHuawei on XDA, but I think item 11 would allow me to continue supporting people using it, if I keep up an active support thread like I've been doing. The rules are a bit unclear in that regard. So long as it's done with an intention of supporting, as opposed to selling, I think I can maintain a presence.
Anyway, I do very well understand the complaints of people who would prefer it to be more free. Unfortunately, until there is a universal income, extremely large amounts of bandwidth and storage are free, or I'm otherwise rich enough to afford not working, I can't do it like that -- it's simply not possible. This is the only way I can continue to operate it.
An alternative might be found, I might not get users, and it might not do well, but I'll do my best to have my service be an option to people who want or need it. As for those who don't want to use it, I can very well understand their reasons, and wish them the best of luck finding a less resource-intensive method to flash the phone.
Having thought about what I can do to help people who can't afford it, I will, as a compromise, come up with a free way to use the service, limited to XDA members who are not reselling or flashing large numbers of phones. For obvious reasons, I can't give unlimited free access to anyone, but I can schedule time blocks for particular people to use the service for free. I will come up with details for that plan and announce it here later.
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Actually what you are doing is selling a service and profit with it.
duraaraa said:
Firstly, I want to thank all the users of FunkyHuawei. I have decided to expand FunkyHuawei to be useful to even more people.
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You've been very helpful to a lot of people, myself included, and I thank you for that. But personally, I too think $15/mo for a normal user is unreasonable. I was a user who donated and only used the service 2 times since it launched. I updated my Mate 9 to B136 and then to B138. That was about 2 GB of bandwidth, which costs next to nothing. I don't know how much time you put into this, but from the sounds of it, a lot of people are using the service. I think your numbers are going to drastically drop if you try charging that much.
I highly recommend you charge a lower fee for a PER FLASH/DOWNLOAD basis. For people like me who only own ONE device, and needed the service because Huawei OTA's are terrible, this makes sense. I cannot justify paying $15 per month when I might not even use the service for a month... 2 months, etc. (totally dependent on OTA update frequency). Sure, I could probably "cancel" every time I'm done using it... but that could still be $15 for 1 download, which is insane. Can you imagine if companies charged $15 for every update? It wouldn't work well for them at all.
All I'm asking is that you reconsider. I hate to hear that you were abused by unscrupulous people using hundreds of gigs of data after donating 1 cent, but your current proposed pricing scheme is just unreasonable for a normal user. I think charging a smaller fee for a 1 time download would work much better for you and everyone else who is not a business/reseller.
duraaraa said:
FunkyHuawei 2.0 will support several Huawei models, including, of course, the Mate 9. Addition of new firmware is automated, so all of the latest updates will be available faster.
iginal version will remain open at least 24 hours from this post, so please use it now while it still exists if you need it.
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Would you be able to add the Huawei Honor Note 8 to this list? I'm giving up my Mate 9 for that device and would love to see it supported! The Nougat beta for it just launched on the Chinese site, but it seems nobody from the small Note 8 community here on XDA has managed to get ahold of it. If you pulled that off, a lot of people from over there would certainly pay for it, myself included!
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Having thought about what I can do to help people who can't afford it, I will, as a compromise, come up with a free way to use the service, limited to XDA members who are not reselling or flashing large numbers of phones. For obvious reasons, I can't give unlimited open free access to everyone, but I can schedule time blocks for particular people to use the service for free. I will come up with details for that plan and announce it here later.
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I'm sure you will. I have nothing but praise for what you have given to this community. The level of resentment you see in some of the posts is just a reflection of how people grew to love FunkyHuawei and are now afraid of losing access to it. I'm positive you'll come up with a solution that is fair for everyone, you included.
Keep up the good work. :good:
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So, calm everybody down.
We will see what @duraaraa will offer to us, who have one phone, and will use 1 time per 2 mnths or as @Nitemare3219 said, when OTAs will be available.
I think that those users need a free solution. There is needed to be made a automated list of those users or smtn like that. Or just set a counter, first time for free, OTAs free, any adittional flashing paid.
Esterra said:
So, calm everybody down.
We will see what @duraaraa will offer to us, who have one phone, and will use 1 time per 2 mnths or as @Nitemare3219 said, when OTAs will be available.
I think that those users need a free solution. There is needed to be made a automated list of those users or smtn like that. Or just set a counter, first time for free, OTAs free, any adittional flashing paid.
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Maby OTA update should be free or a low cost but crossflash and unbrick the phone should cost money? U could separate and make 2 programs. One for OTA updates with ads that can generate money that u have to look at before u can upgrade. And another program for crossflash and unbrick?
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Dear @duraaraa
I think the idea of reasonable donation per download is fair for you and the user..
Monthly fee is not a good idea as users may not use the service for the whole month...
Any way, thank you for what you have done so far.....
Would you be able to add the Huawei Honor Note 8 to this list? I'm giving up my Mate 9 for that device and would love to see it supported! The Nougat beta for it just launched on the Chinese site, but it seems nobody from the small Note 8 community here on XDA has managed to get ahold of it. If you pulled that off, a lot of people from over there would certainly pay for it, myself included!
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Yes, I think it's possible for me to add support for it. Probably can have it added within the first few days of launching.
I'm assuming you're talking about the EDI-AL10C233 ?
I personally used every cm13 and lineOS14 from Meticulus and the development was good. Android as a open source OS developers preferring money for developments is completely not the right way. Hope that the developers figure out this problems and not abandon hundreds and thousands of users who trusted the developers and have love and passion for a clean OS to their phones.
Stawp.
He got pissed off bc people did not respect the rules in 8 out of 10 replys in his Dev Thread not bc he wanted to be a millionaire, wtf?
He mainly build the source. If he decides to ask a donation for it so people will buzz off it's his problem not yours.
Next time respect rules in Dev Thread.
(i am not a sponsor of his)
But, nothing see?
Server of devs cost Money
Build machines cost Money
Devices cost Money
Example:
Build machine (basic) on old hardware but 64b support= 150$
Basic Server = 50$ per year
BadWolfYe said:
But, nothing see?
Server of devs cost Money
Build machines cost Money
Devices cost Money
Example:
Build machine (basic) on old hardware but 64b support= 150$
Basic Server = 50$ per year
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Meticulus uses a free webhost and a free domain. = 0 $
Community donated for his p9 lite = 0$
Build machines aka his pc is his own property for daily use so all in all he pays nothing.
Coolyou said:
Meticulus uses a free webhost and a free domain. = 0 $
Community donated for his p9 lite = 0$
Build machines aka his pc is his own property for daily use so all in all he pays nothing.
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And the internet are free?
And the time?
You job and no receive Money?
Do you think it's okay to sell other's work ?
Do you think those who contributed to lineage os will be happy to see someone making profit out of it ?
BadWolfYe said:
And the internet are free?
And the time?
You job and no receive Money?
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You are not obligated to receive any money for your home needs from us. We all pay for basic needs, things you do here you wilingly choose to do as volunteer and making projects based on someones else source(lineage os) is not a full time job. So making roms is NOT a full time job, it's a volunteer job.
Ok....
Coolyou said:
You are not obligated to receive any money for your home needs from us. We all pay for basic needs, things you do here you wilingly choose to do as volunteer and making projects based on someones else source(lineage os) is not a full time job. So making roms is NOT a full time job, it's a volunteer job.
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To the point well said. Asking for a donation is no problem. But distributing a free OS only for a payment is not legally correct even.
Can we please end this debate? He got his P9 Lite from donations and uses free hosting services, so stop crying for him. Putting open source software behind a paywall is something the guy should be called out for, and that's it. He thinks he will get rid of the guys "bothering" him with questions, but the reality is he has a much lower user base so he also receives much lower feedback.
I follow the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 subforum where people ask even more retarded questions than people ask here on the P9 Lite subforum, but the developers never said "OMG this is so noobish I will stop developing"... But that's his decision and who am I to judge really...
The only choice we have is to wait for the official OTA and then find a way to root so we can debloat it... Or pay the guy's fee and enter his "secret" G+ group and receive updates from him. That's all.
Dorin21 said:
Next time respect rules in Dev Thread.
(i am not a sponsor of his)
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This is bs and I'll tell you why. You can call a mod to clean the thread when things get out of hand.
beanstown106 must be a god :"D
I'm going to stop this one here guys. People are free to do what they want of course, but asking for donations for anything other than a tip and and a thanks, is not allowed on XDA. :good:
Cheers,
Darth
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Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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So far good but im music lover and like to snap photos, honor is good taking pictures but it sucks audio loud speaker specially watching videos on YouTube ?????
Rox_Honor said:
Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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Why should any body on XDA do anything to help Honor ?
Honor made an aggreement with XDA saying that the Honor 8 was going to be a great phone for us when you know that what we want in a phone is updates and prompt response to releasing kernel source code.
You guys have done neither.
I'm running my Honor 8 on EMUI 5 with it's stock 380 update.
This update is terrible.
It's buggy and the battery life is terrible.
We have been asking for you to release kernel source code for months now and have received no answer.
Were stuck on an outdated version of EMUI 5.
You have released EMUI 5.1 but won't give it to us.
It's now April and were stuck on January security patch.
Honor you do your bit and then you can ask us to help you.
John
If you looking on XDA then you must have read just how unhappy people are.
You must have read the ROM's and kernel's thread and must have read how close we are in getting a fully working Lineage 14.1 and must have read how if you released your EMUI 5 kernel source code.
If you reading all this why are you not helping ?
@op that survey has nothing to do with the Honor 8. Stop spamming and get to the real matter as others have advised, we need quicker turn around for updates and Hotfixes be it Honor/Huawei or Google Hotfixes. Kernel source CODE is badly needed ASAP we need at least a engineer from Honor to help out in the Freedom of building Roms which install and run properly..
All in all its a great phone but socks like many Honor / Huawei devices for support...
Nyssa1104 said:
@op that survey has nothing to do with the Honor 8. Stop spamming and get to the real matter as others have advised, we need quicker turn around for updates and Hotfixes be it Honor/Huawei or Google Hotfixes. Kernel source CODE is badly needed ASAP we need at least a engineer from Honor to help out in the Freedom of building Roms which install and run properly..
All in all its a great phone but socks like many Honor / Huawei devices for support...
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Seems like huawei are in race releasing new devices rather maintaining an updates for their devices.
I think now they're only cared about how much of their devices sale's.
faizalotai said:
Seems like huawei are in race releasing new devices rather maintaining an updates for their devices.
I think now they're only cared about how much of their devices sale's.
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Totally agree with you there..
Damn shame as I do like the device just wished Rooting and mods were fare easier that what they are at the moment.. Had my device from Dec 2016 and we're at April 2017 and no changes from Honor to date..
faizalotai said:
Seems like huawei are in race releasing new devices rather maintaining an updates for their devices.
I think now they're only cared about how much of their devices sale's.
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That's exactly what's going on.
All these manufacturers want is to sell phones.
If they just took a step back and looked at what Google do different that sell so many phones.
Release source code and updates promptly
Rox_Honor said:
Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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This: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71815504&postcount=3
Start making good on your promises and maybe you'll get some help. It would be one thing if Honor had never promised anything, then it would just be an unfortunate delay. The problem is that Honor said that certain things would happen and they have never happened.
Nyssa1104 said:
Totally agree with you there..
Damn shame as I do like the device just wished Rooting and mods were fare easier that what they are at the moment.. Had my device from Dec 2016 and we're at April 2017 and no changes from Honor to date..
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Doing the path of Xiaomi. They went from n.1 seller in China to down the table. Only pleasing the stockholders is a short term vision. They had probably the lowest customer retention in the last years.
Rox_Honor said:
Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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@Rox_Honor
At least take the time to read and reply to these messages.
You posted on here yesterday asking us to do something for you guys.
Least you could do is take the time to reply.
Ur the Honor rep
johnhux7 said:
@Rox_Honor
At least take the time to read and reply to these messages.
You posted on here yesterday asking us to do something for you guys.
Least you could do is take the time to reply.
Ur the Honor rep
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Nope, one way communication.
Whatever, honor and Huawei don't actually care about the north American market other than sales.
Well, that's fine. We'll show them the same dedication by simply not buying anymore Huawei or honor devices.
Lots of other great manufacturers out there making excellent devices, and actually stick to their promises.