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Theory: Two way Call Recording

Our HD2 can not do Two way Call Recording by default.
However:
rule 1: Samsung Omnia II Can do Two way Call Recording by tweaking registry
rule 2: Samsung Omnia II have a Hacked Sense ROM
now...
If Samsung Omnia II + Hacked Sense ROM + Two way Call Recording Registry Tweak
can do two way recording
Then
WM 6.5 disable HD2 two way call recording on purpose OR HD2 missing some system file OR HD2 need to replace some system file from Samsung Omnia II ?
ELSE
The HD2 Sense disable two way call recording on purpose? How about Samsung Omnia II disable sense UI, can it do two way recording ?
I don't have Samsung Omnia II, can not do the test...
Please help if you can.

htc disabled it because they don't agree with silent recording (which has legal implications in some countries).

If someone have both phone, they can confirme that.

Mine works!
dwin said:
If someone have both phone, they can confirme that.
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My HD2 DOES record both ways when using Resco Audio Recorder. My outgoing voice is crystal clear, while the incoming voice is just slightly more quiet (but very easily understood).

PeterHTC said:
My HD2 DOES record both ways when using Resco Audio Recorder. My outgoing voice is crystal clear, while the incoming voice is just slightly more quiet (but very easily understood).
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The easiest way to test if its actually recording properly or just picking up the mic through the speakers is to try recording whilst the headset is plugged in. If the incoming recorded voice level is the same with the headset plugged in (and in your ear so there is no chance feedback) then you have an element of proper 2 way recording.
If I have the time I may flash some different bases and see how they compare.
Mark.

mskip said:
The easiest way to test if its actually recording properly or just picking up the mic through the speakers is to try recording whilst the headset is plugged in. If the incoming recorded voice level is the same with the headset plugged in (and in your ear so there is no chance feedback) then you have an element of proper 2 way recording.
If I have the time I may flash some different bases and see how they compare.
Mark.
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I'll try plugging in a headset and let you know. Give me a few hours. Guests just arrived.
Peter

I was wrong!
PeterHTC said:
I'll try plugging in a headset and let you know. Give me a few hours. Guests just arrived.
Peter
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I was wrong! I connected a headset, made a phone call, and ONLY my outgoing voice was recorded. The incoming "caller" was NOT recorded.
Forgive me.

Vito Audio notes works like charm on hd2

equalness said:
Vito Audio notes works like charm on hd2
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are you really sure? there are a number of ongoing threads about this and the consensus seems to be that when you test it, you make a call to your landline in a nice quiet room, and its actually picking up there other end through your mic.
try starting to record, then call your mobile so you get an engaged tone, maybe have tv in background, when you listen back, not a trace of engaged tone.

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Can you repeat the test from post5?
Mark.

RiAySoft makes Auto Phone Call Recorder (v.1.30) which I works really well on my HD2. Incoming call recording is direct and doesn't rely at all on the microphone. I had to pay a few bucks for it though but it's well worth it if you need it. Link below. http://riaysoft.perso.sfr.fr/en/?Windows_Phone:Phone_Call_Recorder

doesn't mention hd2 in compatibility list, have you tried it with the headset?

Yes, please plugin your 3.5mm Headset which you use to listen to music,
and make a call, see if both side is recored,
if yes, great news.

Try the free demo!
I don't know what I've done with the original headset I use my own earphones but go to the download site and just install it. It's an unregistered version with some reduced functionality I believe but it ought to be enough to test the earpiece out.

stammerx said:
RiAySoft makes Auto Phone Call Recorder (v.1.30) which I works really well on my HD2. Incoming call recording is direct and doesn't rely at all on the microphone. I had to pay a few bucks for it though but it's well worth it if you need it. Link below. http://riaysoft.perso.sfr.fr/en/?Windows_Phone:Phone_Call_Recorder
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same problem.it's picking it up through the mic. with the head set theres nothing from the other end, and to be fair this end is pretty faint through the wired mic.
the open mic is pretty good,I can see how you wouldthink it's working correctly.

Try covering the mic
Here's what I did before:
Try getting someone to help you make a test call without the earpiece in. Next try covering the mic while the other party is talking and you won't hear the difference when you play back the recorded file. On the other hand if you were to cover the mic whilst you were speaking into the hd2 you'd get an audible drop in volume.
I have also considered the fact that the mic might be picking up vibrations through the phones body (this would in reality be very unclear because phone mics are designed to pick up modulations in air waves which move much slower than they do through solids). Another quick test to prove this would be to compare the relative volumes of recorded audio using both different programs. Unless ACR has code artificially reducing the volume of incoming sound (doubt this) then both software should demonstrate similar results.
My guess is that the earpiece might require yet another set of code to enable recording of the rerouted audio.

my take is that it is carrying through the body to the mic, my reasoninhg being that even if you cover the earpiece, the ambient sound of the caller is still pretty clear.it almost sounds like its coming out of the back speaker too. maybe the rigid glass makes the sound carry without too much distortion.
someone will figure it out, its not s priority for me,I can wait.

ACER A500 Microphone Fix?

Hi, guys Ive been looking for microphone fix on my A500 , when i record any video it has this loud background noise...which in fact my room is silent , also when I'm recording videos outside & using Skype . Im using HC 3.2.1 rooted with thor's CMW ver 1.5 . I been searching the forum for a fix but i cant find it or so as I read that they will fix this issue on HC 3.2, but still i get this issues . Is this a Hardware problem or OS issue?
Also can I still return this tablet to walmart & get a refund? I already exchange the first 1 cuz It got a charging issue. SO basically I'm returning an exchange tablet. It hasn't been 14 days yet. as they mentioned for returns & refunds.
Thanks.

hatyrei said:
Hi, guys Ive been looking for microphone fix on my A500
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Funny, I was coming here to ask for help about something similar...
In my case, I have a refurbished A500 which has been awesome so far, with the exception of the microphone. It records terribly, lots of noise and distortion in any recording I make (using Recorder as the test app I made a short .amr recording which I attach 7zip-compressed).
A friend has an A500, and it doesn't seem to display this issue. While it's no deal-breaker (I can live without recording audio...playback of tv shows loaded on the card works better-than-fine!), I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to fix it, or at least make it a little less...noisy.

I believe the culprit has to do with the speakers creating feedback. The workaround is to use headphones. Hope this works for you.

Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065219

tabasco22 said:
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065219
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I did read that entire thread, which only tells me there are multiple unrelated issues around audio recording on the A500...these issues seem to get all mixed-together in that thread, with people who only care about Skype focusing on that and cross-talking to people who have completely different recording issues. I was hoping this thread could avoid the whole need-to-use-Skype distraction and focus on the specific issue of seemingly over-driven recordings. (With the refurb, I'm also out of the whole keep-complaining-to-acer-until-they-do-something-to-fix-it focus there seems to be on that thread. I can't really complain, and any warranty I had expired a while ago.)
The earlier suggestion to use a headset is, however, something I should have considered first (even read in the earlier Skype-centric thread), and am a little embarrassed I didn't. Sometime this weekend I'll pick up a cheap 3.5 mic/headphone set and see if that makes any difference. If it does, and the recordings though it are cleaner, I can be more comfortable it will work for one thing I care about...using the A500 with the SquareUp CC processor.

Mic - Solution for me.
Problem: Microphone recordings sound terrible. Soft, Choppy, Mechanical, like a bad cell call, bathroom (NOT the severe helicopter sound as others have reported). My hypothesis like others have suggested, seems to be noise cancellation issues. Especially since the issues vary app to app. These mics are right beside each other and I assume they're pretty much hearing the same thing, and the rear is trying to cancel what it hears, which is the same as the front! End result being filtering what it hears, ie filtering everything? FAIL.
Test 1: Using Recorder and Skype Test call, I tested different distances talking to the front/back, covering front mic, covering back mic, case on, case off, headphones plugged in/out, etc. In some instances you could hear some, and other hear nothing, some sound ok, some sound horrible. I wasn't satisfied with ANY.
Test 2: Popped off back of tablet and disconnected REAR facing mic. They are side/side, make sure you disconnect the correct one, the one with the diaphragm pointing out. Simple connector. Then tried Recorder/Skype Test call and both sounded Excellent. I have not tried a call with Skype, just the test. EDIT: Tested a real Skype call last night. No sound issues on my end or other end.
Conclusion: Removal of rear mic provided the best quality. There is zero filtering/cancellation/etc.

Gotta try this
Hmm!
Should of thought of this myself. Going to give it shot and post back later!
Unhooked the rear mike --it helps the front m ike is usable now. Not perfect but works.
So for me
1 Run Flexreaper ICS by Civato = better mike
2 Drill hole for front mike = not as muffled
3 Disconnect rear mike= almost as good as a phone but not as sensitive.
Okay on recording and search but Skype still noisy without headset.
Damn connectors were a pain to unhook.

appoaf said:
Problem: Microphone recordings sound terrible. Soft, Choppy, Mechanical, like a bad cell call, bathroom (NOT the severe helicopter sound as others have reported). My hypothesis like others have suggested, seems to be noise cancellation issues. Especially since the issues vary app to app. These mics are right beside each other and I assume they're pretty much hearing the same thing, and the rear is trying to cancel what it hears, which is the same as the front! End result being filtering what it hears, ie filtering everything? FAIL.
Test 1: Using Recorder and Skype Test call, I tested different distances talking to the front/back, covering front mic, covering back mic, case on, case off, headphones plugged in/out, etc. In some instances you could hear some, and other hear nothing, some sound ok, some sound horrible. I wasn't satisfied with ANY.
Test 2: Popped off back of tablet and disconnected REAR facing mic. They are side/side, make sure you disconnect the correct one, the one with the diaphragm pointing out. Simple connector. Then tried Recorder/Skype Test call and both sounded Excellent. I have not tried a call with Skype, just the test. EDIT: Tested a real Skype call last night. No sound issues on my end or other end.
Conclusion: Removal of rear mic provided the best quality. There is zero filtering/cancellation/etc.
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I did and I agree this is a fix if you want to use recorder, Skype, talk, tango, etc. But I also learned to forget using the video camera UNLESS you have it using the rear camera (this is one you use by default when you Skype). Looks like it uses the microphone that points in the direction of the active camera.
So I would suspect the noise cancelling algorithm settings are to blame for poor sound recordings.

I solve this issue by using my stereo earphone with mic that came with my Nokia phone. I have tried a bluetooth stereo headset with mic and another wired earbuds with mic, there was either still a lot of noise or the sound level was very low. Basically, it is the same as using a headset. Finally I found one earphone with mic that works well. I actually have two of the same earbuds from 2 identical Nokia 5230. I tested them on two Iconia A500 with voice chat and video chat, it works very well both ways. I have also tried to turned off the Dolby Mobile as suggested by someone. It actually makes it worse and the sound level went down a lot.

acer a501 microphone fix
hi all
today i finally got to the bottom of the microphone issue
versions 3.x had some issues with the mic that cant be fixed - tried different internal and external mics but no good - i thought it was a hardware issue
and not able to solve but after ota update of ics the external mic is perfect - crystal clear and no noise and heaps of level.
the internal mic is crap so i decided to change the microphone with anything i could find - it has to be electret mic.
I had a few lying around and some worked well and some did not - i eventually found one that worked really well will heaps of level - the
only prob was that it was twice the size of the original.
i had to cut some of the plastic away but eventually got it installed.
The internal mic works great now - much better than the muffled one that came with the unit.
I left the second mic connected as it seems to make no difference in or out.
So what i have found -
firmware on 3.x no good for mic
ics makes mic work well if you use exeternal.
internal mic - get rid of it as it is useless.
hope this helps someone as i spent lots of time trying to fix this

OK but...
jzaiter said:
hi all
today i finally got to the bottom of the microphone issue
versions 3.x had some issues with the mic that cant be fixed - tried different internal and external mics but no good - i thought it was a hardware issue
and not able to solve but after ota update of ics the external mic is perfect - crystal clear and no noise and heaps of level.
the internal mic is crap so i decided to change the microphone with anything i could find - it has to be electret mic.
I had a few lying around and some worked well and some did not - i eventually found one that worked really well will heaps of level - the
only prob was that it was twice the size of the original.
i had to cut some of the plastic away but eventually got it installed.
The internal mic works great now - much better than the muffled one that came with the unit.
I left the second mic connected as it seems to make no difference in or out.
So what i have found -
firmware on 3.x no good for mic
ics makes mic work well if you use exeternal.
internal mic - get rid of it as it is useless.
hope this helps someone as i spent lots of time trying to fix this
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HoneyComb 3.2 disconnected the rear microphone, Resulted in Better Quality without helicopter noise specially better for skype Etc.
Video recording still Just hardly acceptable. but quality is still bad.
Wont buy from acer anymore.

Hangout Seriously needs fixing

So the Nexus 10 should be a good device for making Google Hangouts calls or Google Talk. But every time I use it I get such a bad experience.
I want to use the speakers on the device but when I do either the other side cannot hear me or they get an echo, or sometimes I just cannot hear them. If I use head phones it is fine, but that is not the point. Does anyone else have the same problem?

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So the Nexus 10 should be a good device for making Google Hangouts calls or Google Talk. But every time I use it I get such a bad experience.
I want to use the speakers on the device but when I do either the other side cannot hear me or they get an echo, or sometimes I just cannot hear them. If I use head phones it is fine, but that is not the point. Does anyone else have the same problem?
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I don`t think it a softwarebug, i think it's a hardwarebug. Try any software, where you choose front and rear mic, and you will see, that the front mic record really bad quality and extream weak. good luck...

I don't think it is. When you search using voice it is perfectly fine. Whenever there is any type of sound coming out of the device speaker it is somehow inputting that into the microphone and that this something which a software update can sort out.
Another work around is to attach a loud speaker through the 3.5mm jack. When you do that you do not get an echo being presented back to the user you are talking to.
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I don't think it is. When you search using voice it is perfectly fine. Whenever there is any type of sound coming out of the device speaker it is somehow inputting that into the microphone and that this something which a software update can sort out.
Another work around is to attach a loud speaker through the 3.5mm jack. When you do that you do not get an echo being presented back to the user you are talking to.
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I obtain a similar result as you. Not exactly the same. When I hear some body througt hangout-gtalk I hear him faltering and with very low sound. The work arround I did is:
It's behaviour is the same with gtalk video call.
With Skype works perfectly, so it isn't hardware issue. Please try it to corroborate. In didn't try with Tango, we should.
With headphones works perfect bidirectionally, but it demostrates nothig i think.
I think the problem is on echo cancelator applied on these apps.
What is your oppinion?

The geniuses at Google have the rear microphone as the default microphone for skype and hangouts...
We have an open ticket for it on the support pages, but they never fixed the issue in 4.2.2

cb3ck said:
The geniuses at Google have the rear microphone as the default microphone for skype and hangouts...
We have an open ticket for it on the support pages, but they never fixed the issue in 4.2.2
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But with skype works right for me, and you? Could you please attach link about your ticket to have a look.
I hope with new Key lime prime they do a apps comunication unification and fix it.

Tango is not working for me. Very choppy receiving audio and sending it back. Almost like a real bad speakerphone where the two callers are always "stepping on" each other.
This is my second N10 and I recall the first one working much better with Tango. I also added a case to this one when I got it, so maybe that's impacting it as well?

Microphone not working on Galaxy S5

My microphone on my S5 is not working. When I make a call I can hear the person but they can not hear me I also tried recording my voice and it didn't work, so clearly I am assuming the microphone is broken. What part do I specifically need in order to replace the microphone and have it working?

Sounds like you didn't do a search and read the existing threads on this subject. Your assumption that the mic isn't working may not be correct. You should at least try turning off the noise cancelling settings first, speaking closer to the mic, et cetera. There is also a service menu setting for microphone gain. Failing all of those items, then a warranty claim or buying the part yourself, if out of warranty.
All of these are elaborated in more detail in existing threads.
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fffft said:
Sounds like you didn't do a search and read the existing threads on this subject. Your assumption that the mic isn't working may not be correct. You should at least try turning off the noise cancelling settings first, speaking closer to the mic, et cetera. There is also a service menu setting for microphone gain. Failing all of those items, then a warranty claim or buying the part yourself, if out of warranty.
All of these are elaborated in more detail in existing threads.
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I have tried everything you have said before. If I could possibly know what specific part that is faulty so I can replace it because the warranty is expired

navpal said:
I have tried everything you have said before
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It would have been helpful if you had bothered to tell us up front that you had done so.
The primary microphone is part of the charging port assembly.
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fffft said:
It would have been helpful if you had bothered to tell us up front that you had done so.
The primary microphone is part of the charging port assembly.
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Ok so replacing that part should fix the problem?

I was having mic problems. Remembered a friend having issues on his S3, he used a needle to clean rubbish out of the hole on bottom of the phone. So i did the same, very thin needle only pushed in a small amount, pulled a load of fluff out. Problem solved. Two mics on s5, bottom is for using phone normally, top is for when you use in speaker mode.
Might be worth a try.

navpal said:
My microphone on my S5 is not working. When I make a call I can hear the person but they can not hear me I also tried recording my voice and it didn't work, so clearly I am assuming the microphone is broken. What part do I specifically need in order to replace the microphone and have it working?
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Is your phone rooted?
If yes than are you using custom kernel?
If Yes than which kernel?
Sometimes it is due to kernel.

Such problems are more s 5 s
This is probably due to the waterproof cover

I have a rooted stock G 900 a mic doesn't work but speaker does. left touch button doesn't work or light up. the device is still under warranty so we sent it back to Samsung and they wanted almost $200 to fix it whereas I am going to pay $10 for that whole board and microphone I'm fix it myself I am hoping that this will fix the problems. I am 99% sure it is because of some water damage. just a small amount of water I believe got in the charger port. check out what. I will update on this too with results. maybe a video. I have replaced glass and motherboards on many s5 but this is a really advanced repair

navpal said:
My microphone on my S5 is not working. When I make a call I can hear the person but they can not hear me I also tried recording my voice and it didn't work, so clearly I am assuming the microphone is broken. What part do I specifically need in order to replace the microphone and have it working?
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Seems like my S5 is doing the same thing. It started doing this just in the last few weeks, and I haven't figured out how to address the problem.
I am having the same issue as navpal above
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this frustrating problem?

I also would appreciate if solution were posted. HEre are things I have tried with no success.
I cannot even slightly be heard on other line, except when in speakerphone mode. I can hear myself on my side, so I know that the sound is being recorded by at least one microphone.
tried:
clearing system cache
factory reset
clearing out microphone with pin

Hi there.
I have (not mine) Samsung S5 in my hands
Have tried:
Safe mode
battery out of the device and back on method
cannot do factory reset - still don`t want to disturb the client about that
Can you give me picture only of the MIC,not the whole board and others?
Maybe i can try clean it.
If i try to replace the old one will that be enough for me - i attach one photo ?
How is that done at all?
Thanks in advance

Hey Guys,
Im having the same issue. My phone went underwater without the USB flap cover and now the microphone does not work.
Should I replace all USB board? or replacing only the microphone piece would solve the problem?
Also, I wasn`t able to find more threats about it, if you guys have it, please help posting here the link.
Thx

You're about a smartass aren't you

This is an old thread, but I wanted to share my solution to this. My mic audio was very weak in speakerphone mode on Galaxy S5, but was OK in normal phone mode. The S5 has 2 microphones: bottom one is for normal mode, only top one is used in speakerphone mode. On mine the top mic hole was internally plugged with some debris. After cleaning it out by carefully inserting a broken-in-half toothpick (the blunt end) and twirling it while holding phone upside down to allow dirt to fall out, my speakerphone mic audio problem has been solved. If your mic audio is OK in speakerphone but weak in normal mode, it could be the mic hole along the bottom edge that needs cleaning. Using Voice Recorder in INTERVIEWEE mode will test only the upper microphone. Other modes of Voice Recorder enable both microphones so would be less conclusive. Cleanining out the mic holes completely solved my problem, while software fixes such as unchecking noise cancellation did not make any significant difference. Hope this is helpful.

sina_samand2002 said:
Such problems are more s 5 s
This is probably due to the waterproof cover
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My friend you saved me.!!!! i have tried a lot of things but the cover was the problem. Without it the mic in speakermode works great now.... I think even Samsung cannot explain this.!!!

[A2017G] Bottom speaker louder than top speaker

STILL NOT FIXED
I have rooted and unlocked my Axon 7 (A2017G) and edited the mixer_paths.xml file to make the audio output louder.
But there's a little problem (and I don't know if it's because of the mixer paths edit, I don't think so)
My top speaker sounds a lot more dull than my bottom speaker. My bottom speakers seem to be louder too.
How to check this? And are there more people experiencing this?
Thanks in advance.

Did not do anything to my A2017G, but I find that my top speaker is louder and "sparks" when near at full volume

nigelnkj said:
Did not do anything to my A2017G, but I find that my top speaker is louder and "sparks" when near at full volume
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Some say it's dust, but I don't know how. I haven't called with this phone much.

Bump. It's everywhere. Even on LineageOS, bottom speaker is almost twice as loud :/ It can't be dust.

BUMP
This problem is getting on my nerves. The bottom speaker is twice as loud and crispy as the top speaker, which sounds dull.
Anyone else had this and possibly fixed it?

Two questions
Did you try to reset your phone and test the speakers again?
Is there the same problem on YouTube and mp3 music files?

SilentEYE said:
Two questions
Did you try to reset your phone and test the speakers again?
Is there the same problem on YouTube and mp3 music files?
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1. Yes I switched between roms to test modems and other stuff for ZTE.
2. Ofcourse. It's obviously the same on every output.
I guess it's just a hardware fault, but I thought maybe someone would have fix (clean it or something?)

Then I would say that this is an hardware problem indeed.

Having the same issue here, thought that other ROM will provide the fix but still zilch. Rooting the phone only meant the void of guarantee so not really good move there either.
I read somewhere online that usually bottom speaker is the one to go out first and that global version has the speakers a lot different then American and Chinese version). Any other possible fixes before replacing it? And where to find the replacement too?
Update: it should be software related since the sound in earphones has the same problem - only inverted. Which means there should be a tweak in binary or something?

I'm willing to pay to whoever makes this problem disappear. I'm beyond the point of helplessness here...

Fixed!
Fixed the issue finally! ??
Go to:
- settings
- advanced settings
- accessibility
- mono speaker output.
For the last trick to work, just try to disable it, then enable it and restart the device. Disable it again when device rebooted. Worked as a charm for me! So I'll be saving me some money ???

oFFgotoFF said:
Fixed the issue finally!
Go to:
- settings
- advanced settings
- accessibility
- mono speaker output.
For the last trick to work, just try to disable it, then enable it and restart the device. Disable it again when device rebooted. Worked as a charm for me! So I'll be saving me some money
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Omg! This problem was bugging me since day 1, but could not find any solution to this... But I've tried what you said and it works wonders! Can't believe I can now finally listen to music the way it was intented, since having a speaker with lower volume on a stereo setup is very annoying. Thank you very much for sharing the solution with us!

Andrew-X said:
Omg! This problem was bugging me since day 1, but could not find any solution to this... But I've tried what you said and it works wonders! Can't believe I can now finally listen to music the way it was intented, since having a speaker with lower volume on a stereo setup is very annoying. Thank you very much for sharing the solution with us!
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You're welcome buddy, I can imagine your happiness and that smile is thanks enough. Cheers.