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Does the windows 8 support multitouch screen computers? and i so are there programs using this (like world).
if yes when will it be released?
Thank you.
yes, in fact, windows 8 is DESIGNED for use with touch screens.
Is there any special version or all windows 8 support touch?
Nope, there hasn't been since XP, IIRC
i know windows 8 needs bigger screen but maybe changing dpi working? what do you think?
You can't install Windows RT. You have to buy a device with it preinstalled.
WP8 is supposed to be based on Windows RT.
Will the windows 8 surface tablet by microsoft that will be released soon be able to run the softwares I am using right now on my laptop?
.EXE files, desktop, and every basic computer thing, or it will be metro use only?
I'm really confused right now, I installed windows 8 R,P on my laptop and although I got a Metro-mobile.like view, I still have my desktop, my softwares and the whole PC-organized (IDK how to name it)..
So will this be available on the tablet too? (the one that the rumors says is gonna be 200-300$ cheap and fight the Nexus 7 head2head.
Thanks.
The Microsoft Surface which will be available soon will not run your "old Windows" Software. It will be the "little" Surfae which is running Windows 8 RT (ARM based).
Your "old" Windows software compiled for x86/x64 Windows.
The second edition of the Surface - the Surface Pro - is running Windows 8 Pro and this tablet will run all your desktop software.
Oh I see, so I was excited about the Surface for nothing, cuz if its just a Metro like windows phone, we are back to a Big-screen-smartphone-tablet...
I wonder about that "PRO" edition.. I'll look up for it,
Thanks for your answer!
Your welcome.
Microsoft presented four editions of their new tablet.
Two editions for each Windows RT and Windows 8 Pro:
Microsoft Surface (RT) with Windows RT (running on an ARM processor) and 16 or 32 GB which will be available around the official launch of Windows 8 near to october 26th
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Microsoft Surface Pro with Windows 8 Pro (running an Core i5 [probably]) and 32 or 64 GB which will be available about three months later than the "little" Surface (that would be the end of january 2013)
I would like to correct you posts, Surface PRO will have a desktop, and will able to run your old windows apps.
junpeikawada said:
I would like to correct you posts, Surface PRO will have a desktop, and will able to run your old windows apps.
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Didn't I say exactly THAT:
hanswurst24 said:
The Microsoft Surface which will be available soon will not run your "old Windows" Software. It will be the "little" Surfae which is running Windows 8 RT (ARM based).
Your "old" Windows software compiled for x86/x64 Windows.
The second edition of the Surface - the Surface Pro - is running Windows 8 Pro and this tablet will run all your desktop software.
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mcjordan92 said:
Will the windows 8 surface tablet by microsoft that will be released soon be able to run the softwares I am using right now on my laptop?
.EXE files, desktop, and every basic computer thing, or it will be metro use only?
I'm really confused right now, I installed windows 8 R,P on my laptop and although I got a Metro-mobile.like view, I still have my desktop, my softwares and the whole PC-organized (IDK how to name it)..
So will this be available on the tablet too? (the one that the rumors says is gonna be 200-300$ cheap and fight the Nexus 7 head2head.
Thanks.
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You did not install RP as that is not available as a download it would of been an x86 version probably pro. The x86 versions are full on windows, I currently ise Enterprise 64bit as my work machine and my home laptop. TBH I spend hardly anytime in the metro interface.
RT will still have the desktop view and limited support for some older style programs - internet explorer desktop mode, office 2013 etc. However you cant install anything outside the marketplace. It will most likely get hacked but if you need old style windows apps you will need to get the windows 8 not windows rt.
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You did not install RP as that is not available as a download it would of been an x86 version probably pro. The x86 versions are full on windows, I currently ise Enterprise 64bit as my work machine and my home laptop. TBH I spend hardly anytime in the metro interface.
RT will still have the desktop view and limited support for some older style programs - internet explorer desktop mode, office 2013 etc. However you cant install anything outside the marketplace. It will most likely get hacked but if you need old style windows apps you will need to get the windows 8 not windows rt.
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On my desktop theres a logo saying "Windows 8 Release Preview, evolution copy.."
Its not the first trial that was avialable at first, I got updated and re-installed it with some new stuffs..
mcjordan92 said:
On my desktop theres a logo saying "Windows 8 Release Preview, evolution copy.."
Its not the first trial that was avialable at first, I got updated and re-installed it with some new stuffs..
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This is the last of the beta, sorry I read the t as a p that's my bad. You can get a free trial of rtm (the final build as it will be sold), but once the trial is up you will have to reinstall a proper copy you cant just change the key. I have mine because I have volume license with support as well as TechNet and it is already released to us.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx
You'll just have to check what processor the tablet comes with, if its anything ARM based then it will NOT run your old software. If its Intel based, probably called an Intel Atom processor then it will run your old software since it uses the traditional x86 instruction set.
Yeah I figured it out, it kinda dissapointing.. I wished the buy the cheap tablet one as my school tablet but it seems now that its gonna be very expensive which make me think back about buying a laptop instead, or stick with my old laptop..
spunker88 said:
You'll just have to check what processor the tablet comes with, if its anything ARM based then it will NOT run your old software. If its Intel based, probably called an Intel Atom processor then it will run your old software since it uses the traditional x86 instruction set.
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I will note incase any noobs stumble across this that x64 is also x86 its just as its 64bit they like to use it to tell the diff etc.
They are x86 because they come from the 8086 from back in the late 70's and was only 16bit (I say only remember this was still the70's) and that replaced the 8080 (8 bit). The name just followed on (286, 386, 486, Pentium x86).
I am using ati mobility radeon 5650 on a vaio VPCEB46FG and running windows 7 home premium.
When i checked with the Official Windows 8 upgrade tool from microsoft it said that ccc have to be reinstalled, but it showed that device is compatible. The problem is i cannot use the drivers provided by the AMD bcoz of switchable graphics, have to rely on sony for that driver for windows8 compatibility, and they are not releasing the drivers.
So will the drivers for windows 7 and catalyst control center work on windows 8.
gowthamachandran said:
I am using ati mobility radeon 5650 on a vaio VPCEB46FG and running windows 7 home premium.
When i checked with the Official Windows 8 upgrade tool from microsoft it said that ccc have to be reinstalled, but it showed that device is compatible. The problem is i cannot use the drivers provided by the AMD bcoz of switchable graphics, have to rely on sony for that driver for windows8 compatibility, and they are not releasing the drivers.
So will the drivers for windows 7 and catalyst control center work on windows 8.
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I had problems with that on the CP and RP, id might be possible to force the AMD drivers to accept your graphics card as one of their own.
I don't have time just not to go through it all but basically if you look at the amd drivers, you will see an INF file with a list of supported devices and their device IDs, essentially you will replace the device ID of a similar card with your device ID, uninstall the drivers you have, and when you install the AMD ones it should think your device is now supported....
In Theory :laugh:
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I had problems with that on the CP and RP, id might be possible to force the AMD drivers to accept your graphics card as one of their own.
I don't have time just not to go through it all but basically if you look at the amd drivers, you will see an INF file with a list of supported devices and their device IDs, essentially you will replace the device ID of a similar card with your device ID, uninstall the drivers you have, and when you install the AMD ones it should think your device is now supported....
In Theory :laugh:
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I would love to hear more about this method. My laptop too has the AMD switchable graphics & for the moment am stuck on the Intel HD graphics as the AMD drivers are not installing.
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I would love to hear more about this method. My laptop too has the AMD switchable graphics & for the moment am stuck on the Intel HD graphics as the AMD drivers are not installing.
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ok, we know it is a AMD/ATI chipset, do you know what its based on?
Download the latest AMD drivers for win 8
When you run it, it will copy all the guff it needs to a folder, for example
C:\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_12.9_Beta\Packages\Drivers\Display
you should have two folders
W8_INF
W86A_INF
one is 32bit one is 64bit
lets take the 32bit one, the same applies to 64 anyway
you will see 3 INF files, these are for different versions of windows, id change all three but you should be able to get away with changing
CE146933.INF which is Win 8 version
this file is EPIC in size, the first bit you are looking for looks like this
(This is an example, until I know which card you have I cant be sure which to use)
"%AMD68B8.1%" = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68B8&SUBSYS_30001002
Note the bold black on the left and the bold red on the right, the red one is a unique ID code for a piece of hardware, the bold black code is a number that is tied to that hardware ID and assigns it a Name, the Green is the important bit and tells it what it install. In short, if that hardware ID was detected it would load the driver settings for the device "AMD68B8.1" using settings ati2mtag_Evergreen
if you look at the very bottom of the INF you can see a list of what those codes mean, in this example it translates to
AMD68B8.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series"
What is happening at the moment is that the driver is loading, and not detecting the hardware ID, because its not listed it fails to install
what we want to do is to fool the driver in to thinking that your hardware ID IS in the driver.
in theory its simple, in practice there can be a number of things that stop it working, like getting CCC working may be an issue but there you have it, that's the basics of what you can try, it may not work though so don't hold your breath
I had to jump through a crazy number of hoops to get AMD's drivers working on my notebook's 5650 with switchable graphics - and it's unfortunately all because AMD insist on running pre-installation checks. The drivers work, but they don't let you use them.
It eventually worked when updated my notebook from 7 to the RP, and chose to keep drivers installed during the process. I then reinstalled CCC, as the update wiped it out. My driver version is 8.692.1.0, and is dated 22/01/2010.
Switchable graphics works, but I can't right click on the desktop to open the program. I need to run CCC, and then navigate to switchable graphics.
I highly recommend this approach of using switchable graphics - if it works for you. AMD drivers for this are an unmitigated disaster, and any attempts to get a better situation may leave you worse off. Expect lots and lots of 'Install was successful' messages - even though nothing was actually done at all.
If your Windows 7 GPU drivers are working in Windows 8, you'll see the following in Device Manager:
-When GPU is disabled, "Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD" appears in Device Manager.
-When using the GPU, "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650" and the above Intel graphics appear under Device Manager.
Remember that your Intel drivers must be working too - they're part of the switchable graphics. If you see 'engineering sample' or anything next to the driver name, then something is probably wrong.
Anyway, this is just confirming that W7 drivers do work perfectly, if you bypass the OS version check.
If you manage to get W8 drivers to have switchable graphics, that's excellent.
I'll be happily updating my notebook to the full W8 release in about 2 weeks. I am expecting great pain.
The CCC I used was the CCC pro off of their website. I ran all the apps in w7 compatibility mode. Took about 1-2 days. I'm running a never released ati 4600 series so I designed my drivers.... it was very fun
Sent from my SGH-T989 on Jelly Bean goodness!
same probleme here with my sony vaio e series vpcea36ff
cant find the driver of my graphique card 5650 hd
sahhar1993 said:
same probleme here with my sony vaio e series vpcea36ff
cant find the driver of my graphique card 5650 hd
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I also couldnt update my drivers when switched from Win 7 ultimate to Win 8 pro.
SOLUTION :- go to device manager and right click the desired device to click " update drivers" and it will automatically search interne tfor the drivers and everything will work fine !!
I tried this method after installing all the available updates from the microsoft through windows update service !!
Running DELL Vostro 1550
aayush_neov said:
I also couldnt update my drivers when switched from Win 7 ultimate to Win 8 pro.
SOLUTION :- go to device manager and right click the desired device to click " update drivers" and it will automatically search interne tfor the drivers and everything will work fine !!
I tried this method after installing all the available updates from the microsoft through windows update service !!
Running DELL Vostro 1550
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are you using ATI MOBILITY RADEON graphics 5650 card?
I think your solution will work, bcoz windows is saying that graphics card is compatible with windows 8, but only thing it says is ccc has to be reinstalled..
I ve not bought windows 8 for now. So those who use the vaio VPCE series please try windows update or install the drivers from sony and report back..
So my roommate in college has a Sandy Bridge macbook pro 13." He (like me) is an engineering major and wants to run Windows on his computer for solidworks and other software. I am probably going to set up boot camp for him over the weekend because he doesn't know much about computers.
Basically I want this to be short and a one time deal. Does anyone here have experience with windows 8 on a mbp? Are the drivers released and/or functional? Or would I be better off putting on windows 7 right now. He is interested in windows 8 but if it means he loses major functionality then I think he would be better off with 7. We can get both for free right now through DreamSpark.
I am running windows 8 on my thinkpad, so I don't need the pros and cons of the OS itself, just the experience on a macbook pro.
I just recently used bootcamp to load Windows 8 Pro on a Macbook Pro 8,1 (early 2011).
Make sure you have bootcamp 5.0 installed. If you are up-to-date with Mountain Lion then 5.0 should be installed.
Open Bootcamp Assistant in OSX; Select the option to download and burn the latest Bootcamp Windows Support Software. It takes a long time to download, so hang in there, and have a blank dvd ready in your optical drive.
You should have a Windows 8 dvd image/iso (either purchased or otherwise acquired) and the bootcamp 5.0 Windows Support Software DVD you just downloaded and burned. Put the MS W8 DVD in the drive, and using bootcamp assistant in OSX select a Windows 7 install, choose your bootcamp partition size, format, and reboot.
When you get into the W8 setup after the reboot make sure you format the bootcamp partition you just made. It needs to be partitioned in a NTFS format.
When you get through the W8 install and are on the desktop, do not reboot. Put the Bootcamp 5 windows support software dvd in and install the drivers etc. Reboot when it's done.
After reboot, find the bootcamp icon in the taskbar, select it and go through the tabs to change trackpad settings and to pick if you boot into Windows or OSX after a reboot. If you right click on the bootcamp icon in the taskbar you can also choose to "reboot into OSX"
Everything is working great so far. I really like Windows 8 and have pretty much abandoned OSX now. I'm looking to get a 256GB ssd for a dedicated W8 install and then move my 320GB stock HDD to the optibay.
You might want to setup a quick VM with virturalbox or whatever else to see if you or your friend like W8, and everything you need to be compatible is compatible.
EDIT: Apple has not officially released Windows 8 boot camp support. However, my install is running without issue with the drivers that are available.
OK thanks. looks like 8 is the way to go. I just have a couple more questions.
First, will the 64-bit version work fine? I don't know how much RAM his computer has but I don't wanna waste another dvd burning 32-bit when I have a 64-bit from my computer.
Second, how should I partition the hdd? I have no clue how much space osx needs compared to windows. The hdd is 250gb and he will probably just install ~10gb or less of software.
Just wanted to let you know multi-touch does not work...other than that it's really stable and if you friend has the 2010 or 2011 macbook pro it has 4gb ram, so it can handle 32bit version, I'm running windows 8 pro via boot camp it's all good.
Edited: there's trackpad++ driver that bring multi-touch functions back....
htc fan89 said:
Just wanted to let you know multi-touch does not work...other than that it's really stable and if you friend has the 2010 or 2011 macbook pro it has 4gb ram, so it can handle 32bit version, I'm running windows 8 pro via boot camp it's all good.
Edited: there's trackpad++ driver that bring multi-touch functions back....
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Are W8 navigation trackpad gestures working or just two finger scroll? Two finger scroll worked for me out of the box, well, after installing the Bootcamp 5.0 Windows Support Software.