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Hi Everyone i got a Quite new Nexus 4.
Im tired of waiting for the OTA and decided to move on to flash in the Factory Images.
As ive been reading on alot of places it says it ruins my warranty. but according to the EU Directives it does not ruin my Hardware Warranty.
So what would you do? would you open the bootloader flash in 4.4 and lock the bootloader. is there anyway the Serviceman can see that only the bootloader been opened if i lock it directly afterwards?
best regards.
Not sure what you mean about the bootloader. Yes u can unlock and lock the bootloader. After you lock it back; no there is not to tell if it was unlocked. If you want to upgrade to 4.4; follow this guide.
badboy47 said:
Not sure what you mean about the bootloader. Yes u can unlock and lock the bootloader. After you lock it back; no there is not to tell if it was unlocked. If you want to upgrade to 4.4; follow this guide.
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I mean People have had trouble when they have been at a Official Servicecenter.
Apparently the servicecenter said that the customer have had a open bootloader then locked it before going to repair, so the Servicecenter refused to repair the phone.
I dont know if its a myth or not?
so its 100 % secure not damaging any hardware just unlocking the bootloader with nexus toolkit.
Eastliin said:
Hi Everyone i got a Quite new Nexus 4.
Im tired of waiting for the OTA and decided to move on to flash in the Factory Images.
As ive been reading on alot of places it says it ruins my warranty. but according to the EU Directives it does not ruin my Hardware Warranty.
So what would you do? would you open the bootloader flash in 4.4 and lock the bootloader. is there anyway the Serviceman can see that only the bootloader been opened if i lock it directly afterwards?
best regards.
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I don't know a damn thing about EU Directives. But, I've never heard of google refusing to honor a warranty on a Nexus because the bootloader was unlocked. That's kind of expected on a Nexus, and that's why google makes it so easy to do. It's not like other phones that need to utilize some exploit to do it. There is very little that can go wrong. And it can almost always be fixed by flashing another factory image again.
If it was me, I would have unlocked the bootloader the day I bought it, because unlocking it will wipe your data now. There is no way around that. But if I were you, yes I would unlock it and install whatever you want to. Locking it up again is an option. But if you want to unlock again later, you will have to wipe data, again.
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I don't know a damn thing about EU Directives. But, I've never heard of google refusing to honor a warranty on a Nexus because the bootloader was unlocked. That's kind of expected on a Nexus, and that's why google makes it so easy to do. It's not like other phones that need to utilize some exploit to do it. There is very little that can go wrong. And it can almost always be fixed by flashing another factory image again.
If it was me, I would have unlocked the bootloader the day I bought it, because unlocking it will wipe your data now. There is no way around that. But if I were you, yes I would unlock it and install whatever you want to. Locking it up again is an option. But if you want to unlock again later, you will have to wipe data when you unlock in the future.
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here is a link to the directive im talking about.
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
I do wipes from time to time to keep the phone fresh so thats noo worries at all for me.
so for me its just getting toolkit, open bootloader, flash 4.4 then lock the bootloader no harm done?
Eastliin said:
here is a link to the directive im talking about.
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
I do wipes from time to time to keep the phone fresh so thats noo worries at all for me.
so for me its just getting toolkit, open bootloader, flash 4.4 then lock the bootloader no harm done?
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I also don't know anything about toolkits, I use linux and adb/fastboot (nerd).
But yes, unlock booloader, flash the new factory images, and relock it again if you want. Like I said, unlocking a Nexus is not some taboo process to google. Simply unlocking it won't void your warranty.
They only way you can void your warranty is abuse (dropping it, getting it wet, etc) , or installing BAD software that causes the hardware to malfunction. If you are installing google's factory images, you have nothing to worry about.
iowabeakster said:
I also don't know anything about toolkits, I use linux and adb/fastboot (nerd).
But yes, unlock booloader, flash the new factory images, and relock it again if you want. Like I said, unlocking a Nexus is not some taboo process to google. Simply unlocking it won't void your warranty.
They only way you can void your warranty is abuse (dropping it, getting it wet, etc) , or installing BAD software that causes the hardware to malfunction. If you are installing google's factory images, you have nothing to worry about.
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ye i will follow a guide,
i know its ok to unlock bootloader by google, but LG that does the repair in sweden screams NONO haha
Eastliin said:
ye i will follow a guide,
i know its ok to unlock bootloader by google, but LG that does the repair in sweden screams NONO haha
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actualy google says to unlock,flash and then relock for"security purposes".
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actualy google says to unlock,flash and then relock for"security purposes".
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Thats fun haha, you got a link of where they state that?
Eastliin said:
Thats fun haha, you got a link of where they state that?
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https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=pt-BR
"After restoring a factory image,lock the bootloader for security reasons." almost at bottom of page, after all the images. on instructions part.
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https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=pt-BR
"After restoring a factory image,lock the bootloader for security reasons." almost at bottom of page, after all the images. on instructions part.
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so with that link LG cant screw me at all! when it comes to repairing a phone.
Thx alot!
Eastliin said:
so with that link LG cant screw me at all! when it comes to repairing a phone.
Thx alot!
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^, they tried to screw with me, but as i know lg here in brasil, i carried a book of "consumers defense code", i showed them the link,and the guy from the service center had to get my n4 and fix for no fee (my screen was broken, and no touch, but the screen broke because of overheating).
Hey there.
So I tried to use the Nexus Root Toolkit to sideload the OTA, but now when I try to boot my phone it just shows the white google screen and doesn't do anything. I can use ADB and fastboot and get into the bootloader but I can't flash the factory image because I never checked the "Allow OEM Unlock" tick since I didn't plan on unlocking the bootloader. Can anyone help me out here?
Durvid said:
Hey there.
So I tried to use the Nexus Root Toolkit to sideload the OTA, but now when I try to boot my phone it just shows the white google screen and doesn't do anything. I can use ADB and fastboot and get into the bootloader but I can't flash the factory image because I never checked the "Allow OEM Unlock" tick since I didn't plan on unlocking the bootloader. Can anyone help me out here?
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This is exactly why you should never mess with updates or flashing anything with a locked bootloader. If a factory reset doesn't fix it you're likely out of luck.
if your bootloader is locked still I can't see how flashing an OTA would effect this.
Have you tried to flash just the original bootloader from the android version on your device ( not the version you wish to update to )
Fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
DON'T USE A TOOL KIT ! UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ! There where clear instructions on how to flash OTA's on this site and likely in the toolkit.
Unfortunately this is a case of NOT reading before doing things, I have yet to see anyone recover from this.
Best of luck tho, but it might be a lesson learned the hardway a.k.a RMA
hutzdani said:
if your bootloader is locked still I can't see how flashing an OTA would effect this.
Have you tried to flash just the original bootloader from the android version on your device ( not the version you wish to update to )
Fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
DON'T USE A TOOL KIT ! UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ! There where clear instructions on how to flash OTA's on this site and likely in the toolkit.
Unfortunately this is a case of NOT reading before doing things, I have yet to see anyone recover from this.
Best of luck tho, but it might be a lesson learned the hardway a.k.a RMA
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I'll attempt this. Weirdly enough when I look at device info in adb it shows it as being on the newest version. But Yeah I'll attempt to flash what I was on before.
Yeah, I mean I've done this before with no issues on my Nexus 6 and there were no issues but that was unlocked when I got it. I just thought you didn't have to unlock the bootloader to sideload OTA's? I may be wrong.
hutzdani said:
if your bootloader is locked still I can't see how flashing an OTA would effect this.
Have you tried to flash just the original bootloader from the android version on your device ( not the version you wish to update to )
Fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
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Yeah like I thought, "Device is locked. Cannot Flash Images"
I wish I had known they added that "Allow OEM Unlock" Switch in Lollipop. Would have solved my problem if I had that toggled.
Durvid said:
Yeah like I thought, "Device is locked. Cannot Flash Images"
I wish I had known they added that "Allow OEM Unlock" Switch in Lollipop. Would have solved my problem if I had that toggled.
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You just said you had a nexus 6 unlocked, how did you not know the switch existed?
hutzdani said:
if your bootloader is locked still I can't see how flashing an OTA would effect this.
Have you tried to flash just the original bootloader from the android version on your device ( not the version you wish to update to )
Fastboot flash bootloader bootloader.img
DON'T USE A TOOL KIT ! UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ! There where clear instructions on how to flash OTA's on this site and likely in the toolkit.
Unfortunately this is a case of NOT reading before doing things, I have yet to see anyone recover from this.
Best of luck tho, but it might be a lesson learned the hardway a.k.a RMA
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akellar said:
You just said you had a nexus 6 unlocked, how did you not know the switch existed?
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I bought it used on /r/hardwareswap and whoever I got it from had already unlocked it.
I know someone advised you to try to flash a bootloader, but it isn't going to work of your bootloader is locked. What build were you on and which OTA zip did you try to flash?
Heisenberg said:
I know someone advised you to try to flash a bootloader, but it isn't going to work of your bootloader is locked. What build were you on and which OTA zip did you try to flash?
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I started on 6.0 MDB08L and was trying to flash 6.1 MMB29M
Durvid said:
I started on 6.0 MDB08L and was trying to flash 6.1 MMB29M
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OK, but I need the name of the zip please.
Heisenberg said:
OK, but I need the name of the zip please.
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Sorry, it's
533df5ddfa4297997634a8553f0122be5cca4c09.signed-angler-MMB29M-from-MDB08L.zip.
Grabbed it from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3w6qzd/easy_how_to_sideload_ota_601/
Durvid said:
Sorry, it's
533df5ddfa4297997634a8553f0122be5cca4c09.signed-angler-MMB29M-from-MDB08L.zip.
Grabbed it from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3w6qzd/easy_how_to_sideload_ota_601/
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OK, just needed to make sure you had the right one. What have you done to troubleshoot so far?
Heisenberg said:
OK, just needed to make sure you had the right one. What have you done to troubleshoot so far?
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I've tied to flash stock, but can't do that due to the bootloader being locked, tried to just hard reset but it just does the same thing where it gets stuck on the Google logo. I checked the manufacture info in the toolkit and everything is clean. Tried to flash the old bootloader but like you said I can't flash since I'm locked. Not really sure what else to do :/
Durvid said:
I've tied to flash stock, but can't do that due to the bootloader being locked, tried to just hard reset but it just does the same thing where it gets stuck on the Google logo. I checked the manufacture info in the toolkit and everything is clean. Tried to flash the old bootloader but like you said I can't flash since I'm locked. Not really sure what else to do :/
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Honestly, I think you're pretty much screwed unfortunately. You could talk to Google support and see if they'll RMA the phone.
Heisenberg said:
Honestly, I think you're pretty much screwed unfortunately. You could talk to Google support and see if they'll RMA the phone.
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Yeah I think they would do it since I technically didn't void any warrantys or anything. I appreciate the help. What do I need to make sure to do if I do this again in the future? Definitely "Allow OEM Unlock", and do I have to unlock the bootloader? I was under the impression that you didn't have to to flash an OTA.
Durvid said:
Yeah I think they would do it since I technically didn't void any warrantys or anything. I appreciate the help. What do I need to make sure to do if I do this again in the future? Definitely "Allow OEM Unlock", and do I have to unlock the bootloader? I was under the impression that you didn't have to to flash an OTA.
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Definitely unlock the bootloader, it isn't needed to flash an update via the stock recovery, but it is needed to get out of sticky situations like this. If your bootloader was unlocked now you'd be up and running in ten minutes.
Durvid said:
Sorry, it's
533df5ddfa4297997634a8553f0122be5cca4c09.signed-angler-MMB29M-from-MDB08L.zip.
Grabbed it from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3w6qzd/easy_how_to_sideload_ota_601/
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Hilarious that the top comment is mine telling you why doing this is a bad idea
Heisenberg said:
Definitely unlock the bootloader, it isn't needed to flash an update via the stock recovery, but it is needed to get out of sticky situations like this. If your bootloader was unlocked now you'd be up and running in ten minutes.
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Yeah, I'll probably wait for the update over the air for a while and maybe if I feel reallly eager I'll just make sure I unlock and such. Annoying that you can't unlock via fastboot anymore without that toggle. I get that Google is trying to make Android super secure but It's not too useful for folks like us. Sure it's bricked a lot of devices.
akellar said:
Hilarious that the top comment is mine telling you why doing this is a bad idea
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I've done it before with other devices. I wouldn't say it's inherently bad. It's just that there was one toggle that I wasn't aware of that caused the issue. You live and you learn.
THIS IS NOT MY IDEA !
I found this in a N9 thread and it worked according to the user with the issue, apply this with the correct t factory image ( do it with the version you have on your device not the one you tried to update to ! )
This might not work but its worth a try ! Before doing this read about ADB and Fastboot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try and understand the basics and know what the commands are doing to help backtrack e.C.t
If it does work - go to settings and allow OEM Unlock and USB debug !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then go read from reputable sources how to flash images manually via adb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd follow vomers guides.
Had this problem with another device cool thing to remeber is that on locked devices the only thing that is different is that there is a signature before the MAGIC header so the solution is to pull the android stock images from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images. Once done extract the images in both the zip and the tar that is inside the zip. You will see recovery.img inside the tar. One thing about the boot process of TWRP is that it enables adb in preboot meaning while in the boot loop you should have access to adb. With access to adb all you need to do is dd the images over the corresponding partitions: i.e.
PLEASE NOTE NOT FOR THE FEINT OF HEART. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU BRICKING YOUR DEVICE.
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adb push recovery.img recovery.img
adb shell dd if=recovery.img of=/dev/block/<recoverymmcblock>
I dont know if the default recovery has adb push update so id probably recommend doing this on every partition thats inside the tar, i.e. system, boot.
I really hate the stock boot image on this phone because the phone boots up before the animation is even done. I would like to flash a custom boot.img, but this phone is covered under warranty and I don't want any visible traces of modification if I have to send it back. Also, if possible, a guaranteed way to relock it or have it say "relocked" in bootloader would be a good alternative. I MISS ROOT SO MUCH.
No. Once the bootloader is unlocked it's a done deal. You won't be able to do anything on the phone unless you unlock it.
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Cdub1976 said:
No. Once the bootloader is unlocked it's a done deal. You won't be able to do anything on the phone unless you unlock it.
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****. thanks for replying. ill have to wait till the warranty runs out
I can't remember if relocking the bootloader wipes the device or not. I know unlocking it does, but I want to relocking for android pay and don't want to be shocked if it wipes the data.
318sugarhill said:
I can't remember if relocking the bootloader wipes the device or not. I know unlocking it does, but I want to relocking for android pay and don't want to be shocked if it wipes the data.
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It shouldn't wipe your data, but I think you would want a stock recovery if you do lock it.
Fe Mike said:
It shouldn't wipe your data, but I think you would want a stock recovery if you do lock it.
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Everything is stock, I just unlocked it to flash factory images. I'm not rooted or anything on this device. Just want to use Android pay again. With the Android beta program, u never know what things might not work so I keep it unlocked to be able to roll back to whatever I liked best. But darn android pay and bootloader anymore.....
Fe Mike said:
It shouldn't wipe your data, but I think you would want a stock recovery if you do lock it.
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I actually went to relocking it today, and it gives me a warning that it WILL wipe the device upon relocking the bootloader. I'm leaving it alone as I just got my pixel and unlocked that. I'll relocking it when I'm ready to sell this.
318sugarhill said:
I actually went to relocking it today, and it gives me a warning that it WILL wipe the device upon relocking the bootloader. I'm leaving it alone as I just got my pixel and unlocked that. I'll relocking it when I'm ready to sell this.
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Really? I was under the impression it didn't, that's bad info on my part. Sorry, Thank you
Hi there! I've always been a Samsung user and I'm familiar with chainfire rooting method, Odin, the damn knox and all the tools that people need to achieve the beloved full control of our phones.
Let's go straight to the point: I need to buy a new phone for a friend of mine and the P9 Lite seems the most complete and suitable but I've read that if you unlock the bootloader and root it you obviously loose your warranty. The phone is unrootable by flashing a fresh OS image, but the bootloader will stay unlocked, tripping the useful warraty.
Is there any damn way to revert everything to stock in case there should be the need to send the phone to the customer service?
Thanks for the infos!
exnokiafan said:
Hi there! I've always been a Samsung user and I'm familiar with chainfire rooting method, Odin, the damn knox and all the tools that people need to achieve the beloved full control of our phones.
Let's go straight to the point: I need to buy a new phone for a friend of mine and the P9 Lite seems the most complete and suitable but I've read that if you unlock the bootloader and root it you obviously loose your warranty. The phone is unrootable by flashing a fresh OS image, but the bootloader will stay unlocked, tripping the useful warraty.
Is there any damn way to revert everything to stock in case there should be the need to send the phone to the customer service?
Thanks for the infos!
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You can relock the bootloader if you reinstall a stock rom and revert to stock recovery, just fyi... Also there have been reports that the warranty is not void if the issue was not caused by a faulty software. Also if you are new to Huawei, be careful. And READ! A lot of people don't read, and mess up their phone...
Instead of making a new thread about the same issues I'll pitch in here too. What is the safest way to root and unroot in case of warranty? LIke the OP I came from the Samsung ecosystem too but I get the feeling if I don't at least ask about Huawei's one I'll probably **** something up.
dariomrk said:
You can relock the bootloader if you reinstall a stock rom and revert to stock recovery, just fyi... Also there have been reports that the warranty is not void if the issue was not caused by a faulty software. Also if you are new to Huawei, be careful. And READ! A lot of people don't read, and mess up their phone...
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Simply flashing stock rom will lock bootloader but Huawei have your data of unlocking bootloader.
undercontr said:
Simply flashing stock rom will lock bootloader but Huawei have your data of unlocking bootloader.
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That way you could say that when i get the code, i void my warranty without actually unlocking the bootloader...
dariomrk said:
That way you could say that when i get the code, i void my warranty without actually unlocking the bootloader...
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Huawei says they "could" apply fee on unlocked phones. Maybe relocking it restores warranty? I tried to ask them but damn Chinese they don't reply.
They could, but the chance of that happening is really low, especially if your device is 100% bricked, and it needs a motherboard swap
dariomrk said:
They could, but the chance of that happening is really low, especially if your device is 100% bricked, and it needs a motherboard swap
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If it's hardbricked and bootloader is unlocked and the problem is not related to bootloader or a process you made that requires unlocked bootloader, I think they won't fee you because it has nothing to do with bootloader. But of course a company will always choose cheaper way. If a phone goes download mode or fastboot mode it's already saved anyway.
undercontr said:
If it's hardbricked and bootloader is unlocked and the problem is not related to bootloader or a process you made that requires unlocked bootloader, I think they won't charge you
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Exactly
undercontr said:
If a phone goes download mode or fastboot mode it's already saved anyway.
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I wish... I can't seem to be able to save mine, even though it shows up on fastboot on the pc. The phone itself won't turn on at all. I can't seem to lock the bootloader either, anything I flash now seems to have no effect. I just hope the Huawei service fixes it.
Makishima said:
I wish... I can't seem to be able to save mine, even though it shows up on fastboot on the pc. The phone itself won't turn on at all. I can't seem to lock the bootloader either, anything I flash now seems to have no effect. I just hope the Huawei service fixes it.
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If you have access to fastboot mode, you can flash anything. You dont have to flash an img permenantly if you want to save your phone. Use
Code:
fastboot boot boot.img
you can boot your recovery without rooting your phone. You can even open your custom recovery and flash your system.img or stock boot.img.
undercontr said:
If you have access to fastboot mode, you can flash anything. You dont have to flash an img permenantly if you want to save your phone. Use
Code:
fastboot boot boot.img
you can boot your recovery without rooting your phone. You can even open your custom recovery and flash your system.img or stock boot.img.
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I tried fastboot flash boot boot.img (and similarly, recovery.img, system.img, any partition I could flash, multiple times with multiple files) but the phone did not boot at all. Not even into the bootloader nor recovery. It was completely unresponsive. Now the phone is not in my hands so any suggestion is too late...