Hello all.
First off, bear with me if this has been discussed before, I have searched on google and in previous threads here (including the amazing 58.5 hr standby and 6 hr. usage thread) but I cannot find the culprit of the huge Android OS drain.
The battery lasts about 4.5 hrs of screen on time , which is pretty neat but nowhere near what other people are reporting. I know the battery needs to go through a few cycles before reaching its full potential, but the Android OS drain is what bothers me. Please note that I am unrooted due to warranty issues and an unreliable rootchecker.
I have done the following:
Disabled bloatware
Disabled LG MIT (P.S Do you recommend me to change other settings from the hidden menu?)
Disabled auto sync and backup in the settings menu.
Disabled Google Location services from Google Settings, although I kept the location settings in the settings menu due to widget.
I installed Lux to prolong battery life and it only operates upon waking the device.
Installed BBS and Wakelock detector
BBS shows 154 partial wakelocks in just 3 hours of standby from WifiOffDelayIfNotUsed and NetworkLocationLocator 191 partial wakelocks.
Wakelock detector shows a fair amount of Facebook wakelocks (86 in 3 hours - could that be the culprit?) and Viber with 21 wakelocks. This makes me miss Greenify - damn!
To round this off, can anybody please give me advice on how to solve this drain? As previously mentioned I am not willing to root it just yet. Feel free to include perfomance boosting tips as well if you have any
Thanks in advance.
vPro97 said:
Hello all.
First off, bear with me if this has been discussed before, I have searched on google and in previous threads here (including the amazing 58.5 hr standby and 6 hr. usage thread) but I cannot find the culprit of the huge Android OS drain.
The battery lasts about 4.5 hrs of screen on time , which is pretty neat but nowhere near what other people are reporting. I know the battery needs to go through a few cycles before reaching its full potential, but the Android OS drain is what bothers me. Please note that I am unrooted due to warranty issues and an unreliable rootchecker.
I have done the following:
Disabled bloatware
Disabled LG MIT (P.S Do you recommend me to change other settings from the hidden menu?)
Disabled auto sync and backup in the settings menu.
Disabled Google Location services from Google Settings, although I kept the location settings in the settings menu due to widget.
I installed Lux to prolong battery life and it only operates upon waking the device.
Installed BBS and Wakelock detector
BBS shows 154 partial wakelocks in just 3 hours of standby from WifiOffDelayIfNotUsed and NetworkLocationLocator 191 partial wakelocks.
Wakelock detector shows a fair amount of Facebook wakelocks (86 in 3 hours - could that be the culprit?) and Viber with 21 wakelocks. This makes me miss Greenify - damn!
To round this off, can anybody please give me advice on how to solve this drain? As previously mentioned I am not willing to root it just yet. Feel free to include perfomance boosting tips as well if you have any
Thanks in advance.
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I don't know how to solve the problem, but I can tell you this regarding root: Flashing a KDZ file after doing a full factory reset makes the roottripper reset too, including a showing of UNROOTED in the download mode.
Awesome news! Makes me reconsider rooting my device. I would still want to know what I can do without rooting. Thanks a lot for the info ?
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Use Better Battery Stats to see exactly what is causing wakelocks and GSam Battery Monitor to see what's using other things.
"A huge amount of battery" is meaningless without context. If it says "50%" but that's .5%/hr, it means NOTHING else was doing anything really.
Disable KnockON, then Android OS will shrink to a few percents in your statistics.
I have tested it out, KnockON is causing the most part of Android OS.
Via LG G2
Wifioffdelayifnotused can be caused by going in and out of service. Disable optimizing in Wi-Fi, disable disconnect on low signal, set sleep policy to never.
vPro97 said:
Awesome news! Makes me reconsider rooting my device. I would still want to know what I can do without rooting. Thanks a lot for the info ?
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khaytsus said:
Use Better Battery Stats to see exactly what is causing wakelocks and GSam Battery Monitor to see what's using other things.
"A huge amount of battery" is meaningless without context. If it says "50%" but that's .5%/hr, it means NOTHING else was doing anything really.
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well. As stated in OP I am using BBS but I will try out Gsam battery.
You've got a point there, but I'm not seeing 24 hours of standby, which annoys me. A side note- if there was no' something' draining my battery wouldn't it show as "device is idle" rather than android os?
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Disable KnockON, then Android OS will shrink to a few percents in your statistics.
I have tested it out, KnockON is causing the most part of Android OS.
Via LG G2
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Thanks for the tip. I am well aware that knock on uses up some battery but I don't recall the people getting 6 hrs of usage and 50 hrs of standby disabling this feature. Anyway I wouldn't disable this feature even if it would give me am extra hour of usage (unless in dire need) ??
And to the last post (which I forgot to quote) WiFi is set enabled in standby and the other option is disabled. The only thing I have checked in the advanced WiFi settings is lower battery consumption when device is using WiFi. Thanks for clarifying though.
It seems like. Android os is a mystery ?
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Delete.
The cpu power consumption is the biggest problem~
I had read a Chinese thread that CPU quality is the major problem causing this huge battery drain. Qualcom classified 7 quality levels. Slow, nominal, fast, very fast, ultra fast,....from class 0 to 6.(higher is better). the higher class quality means that cpu can use lower voltage to reach higher frequencies. The difference between C 6 and 0 is about 0.15V,,, :crying:
PS: [email protected](0.95V Max)/ [email protected](1.1V Max)
There has been some improvement but the phone was awake for 42 minutes more than screen on time . I posted some screenshots.
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Steamer86 said:
Wifioffdelayifnotused can be caused by going in and out of service. Disable optimizing in Wi-Fi, disable disconnect on low signal, set sleep policy to never.
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I'd say leave wifi optimization, set sleep policy to any other than never, and turn off the feature that turns wifi off if the access point you're connect doesn't have internet access. Or try aosp
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If you're connected to more Wi-Fi than cell signal, leaving this on will do nothing to increase battery usage, more so increase it. Counterintuitive, but it is what it is. This is Google software itself, not hardware. Learn before you post BS. The phone uses more battery searching and refreshing for 4G data signal than it ever will on Wi-Fi. Do what this guy says if you spend most the day in Wi-Fi, and watch those counts hit the roof. If your of Wi-Fi most the day, just turn it off until you are, all good. Why waste battery when unneeded.
Hey there,
Recently after patching to 4.4.2 on Telus, I have found that my S4 has been draining quicker than usual. I tend to only get 10 hrs charge on it now, but the odd thing is that occasionally when I unplug it, it will go from 100% to 77-75%. I'm not quite sure what the cause is, but I'm guessing it is battery wear due to heavy usage? I am just curious if this is the case before I consider getting a new battery for my phone.
Any help that you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated.
There are countless threads on battery. Start with the obvious, open battery settings and see what's draining your battery. Restart/pull the battery.
Are you rooted? Get wakelock detector from play store. Figure out if you have any apps that cause wakelocks and then fix it. Or if you're getting poor signal in your area, that can lead to battery drain.
Try apps like deep sleep battery saver if you have wake locks. Or use tasker to control your radio if you get bad signal in certain areas.
thesummoner101 said:
There are countless threads on battery. Start with the obvious, open battery settings and see what's draining your battery. Restart/pull the battery.
Are you rooted? Get wakelock detector from play store. Figure out if you have any apps that cause wakelocks and then fix it. Or if you're getting poor signal in your area, that can lead to battery drain.
Try apps like deep sleep battery saver if you have wake locks. Or use tasker to control your radio if you get bad signal in certain areas.
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Mostly says screen and kernal, been using Lux to try and keep the screen brightness down, but it has been draining faster than usual. Have tried restarting/pulling the battery but to no avail.
Not rooted, and have been keeping an eye on signal, but the drain occurred even when at home with full bars.
Hey guys...
Just here to say that I unplugged this phone at around 5 in the morning, and around 5 hours later its already down to 74%.
What did I do? Only about 10 minutes of mobile hotspot, a 2 minute phone call, and three text messages. The rest just idling...
1/4th of my battery life for just that?
What the heck?
Everything is disabled and the screen brightness is low... Whats the matter with this phone?
Looks like something is keeping your device awake.
Can you please add some screenshots of your battery graph?
In addition, you can try to boot into safe mode. If your problem is gone in safe mode, a third party app is interfering.
If you're rooted, try installing Wakelock detector or BBS (Better Battery Stats) and check out what is waking up your device.
If you use Gas Buddy, it was known to be causing massive bluetooth wakelocks. Either uninstall it or update it to the latest version.
Set your wifi to 2.4 ghz only. On 6.0 and 6.0.1, the 5 ghz band has been causing abnormal battery drain and keeping phones from entering doze mode. Here's the issue being reported: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=197460
If neither of these make a big improvement, you'll have to use your battery stats (and if rooted, use Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector) to specifically see what's keeping the phone awake. In either of these apps, filter the view by "Alarms" or "wakeup triggers" and you'll see what the heavy hitters are.
Be sure to go into Location>Settings and turn off wifi and bluetooth scanning.
Hi.the maps app isvuding WiFi and gps even though both are disabled and I'm not using it... Any ideas?
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
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Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery
ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
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Give GSam Battery Monitor from Playstore a go. It can give you an overview of whats using your juice.
Alternatively you can use Better BatteryStats: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you are rooted just install the XDAedition from post #2
If not rooted then follow instructions in post #4
Definitely some rogue app running in the background...
As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue
RossTeagan said:
As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue
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Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours. But I wonder why my galaxy s8 is having this problem, the sim card I'm using on my galaxy s8 is the one that I've been using on my galaxy s7 for the past several months and I didn't experienced the same problem on my galaxy s8
Is your network signal weak?
ajemnace said:
Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours.
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This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it
can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
-----UPDATE-----
Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery
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xRuisuCepi said:
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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Do you know if the device would still be searching for LTE constantly if Wifi is connected? I'm just curious, I live in an apartment that has almost 0 data, and phones tend to pick and choose whether they want to be on 3G or LTE here. Definitely would be a drain, but I don't know if it matters if I'm on my wifi network..
baste07 said:
Is your network signal weak?
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No, I do have a very strong signal in my area. I'm getting an average download speed at 50mpbs and download speeds at 10mbps
xRuisuCepi said:
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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I did a factory reset on my phone and let it just sit for the whole night. I left it with it a 100% charge and after 6 hours, it drained 20% of my battery
Jostian said:
can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...
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My carrier doesn't support 2g anymore. Also, switching to 3g still doesn't stop the battery drain
RossTeagan said:
This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it
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I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off
ajemnace said:
I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off
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Try to install a data manager/tracking app and another battery tracking app and see if you can get any tangible stats out of those.:fingers-crossed:
I think this may be my problem
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream/ntt-docomo-japan
I don't know, I just found this website and found out that there are just few LTE/3G bands that my phone supports, could this be the reason why? anyone?
My usage for the last 2 days until I decided to put a SIM card and enable data
Wow, this thing's battery is inconsistent. Good one day, bad the next. Within 2h 26m, my phone dropped 12% with only 27:38 screen on time. I listened to maybe 4-5 songs in Google Play Music.
Anyone know why Samsung DeX Home would be taking up so much space, and why playing only a few songs *that have been downloaded* is causing a decent drain through GPM?
Not sure what the deal is with Android System Kernel, but it looks like the wakelock is from audioserver.
My S8+ battery performance was not very good since I started using the phone. Installed GSAM and granted it the needed permission via ADB. Recently battery drain has been terrible because mainly of Google Play services as well as FB. Battery only lasted for barely the whole day and sometimes I had to recharge during the evening.
After a lot of search and trial and error including disabling all Bloat ware apps using BK Disabler (as per a post at the beginning of this thread) and which caused more problems actually, I re-enabled all apps again. I installed Greenify with Agressive Doze enabled and Greenifying system apps enabled, but that didn't help either.
Finally, that's what I did and which gave me for the first day since I used the phone 4h15m of SOT and still 54% of my battery remaining!
1- Apps installed: Greenify, BK Disabler (with plug-in), GSAM and Play Services Info.
2- with BK Disabler I disabled all FB related apps (Facebook, FB App Installer, FB App Manager and FB services) and installed instead any 3rd party app like FB Lite, Swift FB, Metal or Friendly.
3- Disabled FB Messenger and installed Messenger Lite.
4- In Greenify, I disabled Agressive Doze and Greenify system apps.
5- I installed the latest Google Play Services Beta app version 12.2.09.
6- I am using Power Saving mode with FHD+ but will try tomorrow without it.
The battery drain was dramatically decreased knowing that I am using 3 email accounts (Gmail, Hotmail and Good for Enterprise), LinkedIn, Instagram, 2 What's app accounts via Parallel Space, Swift FB, Messenger Lite, Telegram as well a bunch of other apps. I am usually using 4G and Wi-Fi while at home with a lot of FB and web browsing.
Hope this post shed some light and help on battery drain issue with the S8+.
Ciao
Note: I had 8+ hours SOT yesterday!!
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