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Can't post in the right forum yet, maybe I should talk about the weather or something? Or maybe even a mod can move it over there.
Anyways, I cracked the screen on my first Incredible, doing a backup was worthless compared to my Treo as it didn't backup everything. So I rooted it and my new phone and did a nandroid backup. Lo and behold Gingerbread arrives and I can't update since I have clockworkmod still installed.
I'm out of warranty as it is so thought I'd go the ROM route and see whats out there. As such I've installed Nils' Business GingerSense 3.5 - GB 2.3.5 - (11/13/11 v2.2) and have been pretty happy with it except for a few odd quirks.
For one, I can't read the text for some of the apps in my notification screen, Lookout is a dark grey and the weather is completely black. Maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere? If I use a pattern lock screen, there's some extraneous lettering above the pattern box. And yeah, the preview screen doesn't work for wallpapers and such, neither in the HTC hub area.
Sometimes upon first unlocking if I swipe the screen, it does a full 360 through all the home screens. It also looks like this ROM is based on 4.06 and not the newer 4.08, would this fix some issues?
I do like Sense 3.5 so I think I'll be sticking around with this one and stuck here till I get enough posts in.
Hello hello,
Glad you rooted your Incredible, trust me you aren't missing anything in the way of features if you were on Verizon's stock GB update. The XDA community is literally MONTHS ahead of that haha but you can always unroot and wait for Verizon's OTA prompt if you desire but alas...
1) There is not a setting to change the notification bar's color. I have the same "feature"/problem as well. I just deal with it, not ideal I know, I just prefer launching into whichever app once I know the notification is there. Maybe try your hand with using the android kitchen that Nils has linked in post #3 of that thread. Also, I would suggest sending Nils a pm if nobody in the community has a solution for this. Sorry I can't help you any further but just everyone who uses the rom has the same all black notification bar. I like it cuz it sort of acts as a security blanket as nobody can view the notification's content.
2) As for the pattern lock labeling, I am not aware of a solution but I have heard this occurring on other Sense 3.5 roms. I do not have a solution simply cuz I prefer using the pin code which is more secure. Again, hopefully someone has a fix for this if there is one.
3) Wallpapers: you must hit "Menu" then select "Grid." That is addressed in post #2 of the thread.
4) The unlock spin is actually a function introduced with HTC Sense 3.5 and it effectively serves no person, rhyme, or reason. This should be disabled by going to Settings/Incredible Tweaks/Display Options and uncheck "Enable Unlock Animation." However, you cannot disable the spinning animation if you move through your homescreens too fast (i.e. flick your finger left/right quickly) as that's built into HTC Sense 3.5.
5) The 4.06.501 vs. 4.08.501 differences are moreso software (non-UI) fixes. The rom is based off of a different phone so your issues derive from the base that NilsP utilizes and the way he customized the rom. Don't get too hung up over the differences as it is inconsequential. The version of Android is more vital as Google incorporates fixes that you may/may not notice.
6) Not sure if you're aware but XDA has a ten post limit before allowing users to comment in the development section. Just post a few more comments and try helping others and you'll be at the minimum in no time.
Thanks for the heads up on the notification bar, I hadn't read anything elsewhere about it so I thought it was something I wasn't aware of for a fix. I actually thought of sending a PM, but wasn't sure if I was locked out of that also being a noob poster. (yep, read about the 10 post pre-qualification, how about this weather were having?)
Odd, I just pulled down my notification bar and my weather text now shows up in white, Lookout is still in a dark grey though.
I'm not worried about the pattern lock, I used to use it when it first came out, not so much anymore, was just playing around with different things. I didn't want to install a bunch of stuff and then have to do it all over again if I installed another ROM (I had 104 apps on it beforehand, did I mention android backups suck?).
Yep, did read about the wallpaper issue, I just put it in there for some odd reason.
Unlock spin? Or left/right swipe? Currently I pull the ring up to unlock the screen, and I did get that zoom in animations. But sometimes, like 1/20 times, swiping to the right (or was it left?) it will spin through all the screens and stop on the middle one. And I didn't think I had swiped it that fast, I just tried it, and I see what your saying if you swipe it fast. Maybe I did swipe it fast after unlocking, but it usually surprises when it does it so I must be thinking I didn't swipe it that fast. It only seems to do it right after unlocking though, other times it just does the one screen at a time.
Ok on the 4.06-4.08 issue then, I just read that the OTA 4.06 was real buggy and 4.08 fixed a lot of issues. I didn't get the OTA notice till about 3 weeks ago and didn't investigate as to why it wasn't taking until last week.
I'm trying the V6 Supercharger next as sense reloads after I exit some applications, not always, but enough times to be annoying.
My contract is up in mid January, most likely will be looking into a new phone then and ICS.
Oh yea, go ahead and send a pm if you ever need assistance. I'm sure that is open to every user regardless of post count. Best part is, NilsP is a very responsive dev so I'm confident he'll help you out if you post in any of his threads or send a pm.
That is odd but hopefully someone can assist with the notification bar color. I agree with you about checking for bugs in a rom, it is an investment since you want "stable" and "working 100%" the moment you install a rom. When you run the V6 script working bulletproof the launcher. Ever since I bulletproofed the launcher I haven't had an HTC Sense reload in weeks and it works great. I have the same idea as well, I'm likely purchasing the Nexus this spring.
Thanks, ill send him one when I get a chance, getting pulled in a couple directions at the moment (shouldn't even be typing this!)
Man, that V6 install takes a lot! Dependent on other things installed which are also dependent on other things installed, have my work cut out for that!
I installed battery minder last night (one of the few I found that says how many hours I have left) and it's the same thing in the notification screen, black and dark grey text. Lighter grey then Lookout though.
I'd even wait on an upgrade a little, but my compass isn't working right, skymap has me moving all over the place. I forget what HTC is coming out with 2012, I'm sure things will keep going crazy.
where can i get beats audio from????
Drifta12 said:
where can i get beats audio from????
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Either flash a Sense 3.5 rom and use the stock HTC music player app OR purchase a new HTC phone.
If you want to try the Gingerbread OTA release, you can flash Stock Plus Gingerbread. The ROM is almost completely stock, with a few fixes and a little bit of the bloat removed. Also, you won't lose root as you would with the update installed OTA.
DInc with CyanogenMod 7.0
Hi all,
I have owned my Nexus 4 for about 4 months now, and while I love the ability to customize my experience, I am always looking at ways of customizing that streamline things instead of adding more functionality. Rather than having 12 ways to do one thing at all times, I'd rather have the single best way to do 12 things at my disposal. I don't need HALO, the notification shade, and a notification widget all running at once to inform me about new notifications. When I look at the ROM scene on XDA, it seems like people are really interested in adding things to the standard android experience, but nobody seems to be working on trimming the unnecessary features away while adding things that work better/look and feel more elegant. I don't just mean debloated GApps packages, I mean ROMs that use Android's customizability do things better than Google intended.
To give a personal example, I am running stock Android on the Matr1x kernel with the Xposed framework installed to enable Pie Controls so I don't waste screen space, change the battery indicator to a circle/percentage, quick settings to get easy access to torch, settings, wifi, etc in the notification shade, and unicon to enable custom icons in the Google Experience Launcher so all my icons are uniform. This way I have as much information as possible easily accessible at all times, and my phone has a standardized look throughout. However, I feel like I am sticking it all together with tape and strings, and I am still stuck with some of stock android's bloat. It would be great if there were some people out there who shared a similar desire for streamlining the Android experience. Do any of you at XDA have any advice for me as I look for such a ROM, or is this about as good as it's going to get? If I could code I'd just do it myself .
Anyway, thanks for your time!
Downloaded7 said:
Hi all,
I have owned my Nexus 4 for about 4 months now, and while I love the ability to customize my experience, I am always looking at ways of customizing that streamline things instead of adding more functionality. Rather than having 12 ways to do one thing at all times, I'd rather have the single best way to do 12 things at my disposal. I don't need HALO, the notification shade, and a notification widget all running at once to inform me about new notifications. When I look at the ROM scene on XDA, it seems like people are really interested in adding things to the standard android experience, but nobody seems to be working on trimming the unnecessary features away while adding things that work better/look and feel more elegant. I don't just mean debloated GApps packages, I mean ROMs that use Android's customizability do things better than Google intended.
To give a personal example, I am running stock Android on the Matr1x kernel with the Xposed framework installed to enable Pie Controls so I don't waste screen space, change the battery indicator to a circle/percentage, quick settings to get easy access to torch, settings, wifi, etc in the notification shade, and unicon to enable custom icons in the Google Experience Launcher so all my icons are uniform. This way I have as much information as possible easily accessible at all times, and my phone has a standardized look throughout. However, I feel like I am sticking it all together with tape and strings, and I am still stuck with some of stock android's bloat. It would be great if there were some people out there who shared a similar desire for streamlining the Android experience. Do any of you at XDA have any advice for me as I look for such a ROM, or is this about as good as it's going to get? If I could code I'd just do it myself .
Anyway, thanks for your time!
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Plus one for this. Are you running KitKat 4.4.2?
4.4.1 at the moment as I haven't found the time to flash the update manually. Glad to see someone else gets where I am coming from .
A genuine question - we get 4.4.2 so whats so great ?
Looking at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Android_4.1_Jelly_Bean_.28API_level_16.29 I'm seeing some optimisation, camera UI and multi-user profiles, sure also less susceptible to viruses but did I miss anything major ? Am I wrong to think that the biggest change might be whatever Samsung add on the top ?
Here's a list of what changed on the note 2 with 4.3 now our device is very similar to the note 2 and there will be even more features/fixes added with 4.4.2.
- GALAXY GEAR Support
- TRIM Support (Makes the device much faster)
- Samsung KNOX
- Samsung Wallet (Pre-loaded)
- ANT+ Support
- Improved TouchWiz Launcher (Much less launcher redraws and less lag)
- Better RAM management
- Core UI elements updated to the ones on the Galaxy S4 (Galaxy S4′s theme all over)
- New Samsung Keyboard
- GPU drivers have been updated (Higher GPU benchmark scores)
- New Lockscreen: Multiple Widgets, improved ripple effect than Android 4.1.2, ability to change clock size and set a personal message
- New screen modes (From S4): Adapt Display and Professional Photo
- Daydream
- Driving mode
- Actionable notifications
- Move-to-SD-card feature
- New Camera mode : Sound and Shot
- New Additions in Notification Centre
- Completely revamped Settings UI (Tabbed interface – Exactly like the Galaxy S4)
- Implementation of Voice controls (Let’s you control various parts of the phone using voice commands – Galaxy S4 feature)
- New Samsung Apps: Browser, Calculator, Clock, Contacts, Gallery, Music
- Full screen Samsung apps
- New S-Voice (from Galaxy S4)
- Samsung Wallet comes pre-loaded
- Minor UI tweaks (Contacts app, Flashlight Widget, dialog boxes etc)
- Android 4.3 features – widget lockscreen, daydream
Trim is already there... But support for smart extension apps - most of them use API-level we don't yet have and that's why those apps wont work on our 4.1.2. Biggest thing is to get the device work with smart accessories well and use the full potential they have.
will all this be available to the wi fi models?
elzeus said:
Here's a list of what changed on the note 2 with 4.3 now our device is very similar to the note 2 and there will be even more features/fixes added with 4.4.2.
- GALAXY GEAR Support
- TRIM Support (Makes the device much faster)
- Samsung KNOX
- Samsung Wallet (Pre-loaded)
- ANT+ Support
- Improved TouchWiz Launcher (Much less launcher redraws and less lag)
- Better RAM management
- Core UI elements updated to the ones on the Galaxy S4 (Galaxy S4′s theme all over)
- New Samsung Keyboard
- GPU drivers have been updated (Higher GPU benchmark scores)
- New Lockscreen: Multiple Widgets, improved ripple effect than Android 4.1.2, ability to change clock size and set a personal message
- New screen modes (From S4): Adapt Display and Professional Photo
- Daydream
- Driving mode
- Actionable notifications
- Move-to-SD-card feature
- New Camera mode : Sound and Shot
- New Additions in Notification Centre
- Completely revamped Settings UI (Tabbed interface – Exactly like the Galaxy S4)
- Implementation of Voice controls (Let’s you control various parts of the phone using voice commands – Galaxy S4 feature)
- New Samsung Apps: Browser, Calculator, Clock, Contacts, Gallery, Music
- Full screen Samsung apps
- New S-Voice (from Galaxy S4)
- Samsung Wallet comes pre-loaded
- Minor UI tweaks (Contacts app, Flashlight Widget, dialog boxes etc)
- Android 4.3 features – widget lockscreen, daydream
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I read that all will be made available thru the different carriers.
Yeah...I noticed a lot of excitement about the 4.4 update. Like some not-so-tech-savvy folks, I'm afraid that updates could break more than they fix. I didn't even upgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, even though my father really wanted to update it for me - now I won't let him touch it. xD I don't want Samsung to add any new "bloatware" or extra apps I don't want and can't uninstall. I've used my mother's Note 3, and I don't like the different outlay of things. I don't use my tablet as a phone at all, so any updates to do with that are irrelevant to me.
Though my tablet hardly lags, the only benefit I could get from an update is if it made everything run even faster and more smoothly. Oh, and if the notification bar were moved to the top of the screen like on the 2014 Note 10.1, so I don't need to keep accidentally hitting it when I draw. All in all, though, I highly doubt I would install this update even if it became available to me.
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Yeah...I noticed a lot of excitement about the 4.4 update. Like some not-so-tech-savvy folks, I'm afraid that updates could break more than they fix. I didn't even upgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, even though my father really wanted to update it for me - now I won't let him touch it. xD I don't want Samsung to add any new "bloatware" or extra apps I don't want and can't uninstall. I've used my mother's Note 3, and I don't like the different outlay of things. I don't use my tablet as a phone at all, so any updates to do with that are irrelevant to me.
Though my tablet hardly lags, the only benefit I could get from an update is if it made everything run even faster and more smoothly. Oh, and if the notification bar were moved to the top of the screen like on the 2014 Note 10.1, so I don't need to keep accidentally hitting it when I draw. All in all, though, I highly doubt I would install this update even if it became available to me.
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Ever heard about root? I'm pretty sure that all the "so-tech-savvy-folk" are having root on their tablets, and if not, they don't complain about bloatwares or other things. With the right apps, you can uninstall all these apps, install tweaks or other superb apps like Adblocker or something. You can even change the notification bar if you want. A new update is always good and I think everyone should have the opportunity to test it. And if you don't like it, there is still a chance to go back to 4.1.1 or an older firmware. And please don't tell me this all is complicated, there are a lot of great tutorials here on xda and a great community who are ready to help anyone.
I'm really impatient for this update and I will welcome all of samsung's bloatware with little friend titanium backup ^^
Simply the fact 4.4 finally adds some proper support for printers is reason enough for me to stick to cm-11, even though tethering does not work in the current build for my LTE note.
I might go back to stock once Samsung releases this, so I can have everything working again without losing the new features.
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Ever heard about root? I'm pretty sure that all the "so-tech-savvy-folk" are having root on their tablets, and if not, they don't complain about bloatwares or other things. With the right apps, you can uninstall all these apps, install tweaks or other superb apps like Adblocker or something. You can even change the notification bar if you want. A new update is always good and I think everyone should have the opportunity to test it. And if you don't like it, there is still a chance to go back to 4.1.1 or an older firmware. And please don't tell me this all is complicated, there are a lot of great tutorials here on xda and a great community who are ready to help anyone.
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I've heard about root, but no, I like my device the way it is. I didn't complain about having bloatware now, only that I was afraid there would be bloatware AFTER the update, like I heard some people had extra apps installed on their devices after an update that they said didn't change much else. Thank you for being informative, however.
Also, I never said nor was it ever my intention to imply that other people shouldn't have the opportunity to test it. In fact, I think it's great that folks are getting what they've wanted for so long. I was merely expressing my opinion about not wanting updates, which I have as much right to state as anyone who does want their updates.
Exactly what I did when I bought two of these (2012 version) sometime ago. I rooted mine and with Titanium I froze all the bloatware apps. You don't need to be rooted to disable bloatware... Just go to your application manager and disable your apps from there. You should be able to disable most of them. Probably all bloatware, but I don't do it that way so I can't confirm. Still, I always root just because I like installing Titanium, Root Explorer, Xposed Installer, AdAway, etc. Also install a custom recovery so I can backup my image and be able to restore if anything happens.
The device has been rock solid since I got it and I use it daily. The only way I wouldn't upgrade to KitKat is if it came with a locked bootloader. Even then that wouldn't exactly be a showstopper as i don't really play with custom kernels on it. I save that for other devices and computers I use and own. I also wouldn't necessarily expect that on a Wifi only device.
Sent from my Galaxy S4
The biggest thing for me is native apps 2 sd support. I have my 16gb tablet loaded with apps using the storage swap script however it's not perfect as those who use it know, at some point you get a low space warning even when you have plenty of space left. I hope this would no longer be an issue when not running this script.
If you don't care about the update, then don't update the tablet, simple as that. On the other hand, I'm very excited. A lot of things have changed with android between 4.1 and 4.4 and it's a much smoother experience.
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lost disk space fix
PsycloneTW said:
The biggest thing for me is native apps 2 sd support. I have my 16gb tablet loaded with apps using the storage swap script however it's not perfect as those who use it know, at some point you get a low space warning even when you have plenty of space left. I hope this would no longer be an issue when not running this script.
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First sorry for off topic. but this should help you
The low disk usage warning can be fixed..
download a app called disk usage from play store. It will show you Exactly where your data has gone. The data (GHOSTE DATA) is likely a app you use a LOT. look for cache files that are large.
Once you find the app with large amounts of cache. Go to settings / Applications/ FIND THE APP That is the issue. Clear its cache files as needed.
GOOGLE + Seems to be the one that Gives us the most troubles.. But its a app we use a lot. others like maps facebook apps and so on can do the same..
Good Luck.. :good:
MissStreelight said:
Yeah...I noticed a lot of excitement about the 4.4 update. Like some not-so-tech-savvy folks, I'm afraid that updates could break more than they fix. I didn't even upgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, even though my father really wanted to update it for me - now I won't let him touch it. xD I don't want Samsung to add any new "bloatware" or extra apps I don't want and can't uninstall. I've used my mother's Note 3, and I don't like the different outlay of things. I don't use my tablet as a phone at all, so any updates to do with that are irrelevant to me.
Though my tablet hardly lags, the only benefit I could get from an update is if it made everything run even faster and more smoothly. Oh, and if the notification bar were moved to the top of the screen like on the 2014 Note 10.1, so I don't need to keep accidentally hitting it when I draw. All in all, though, I highly doubt I would install this update even if it became available to me.
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A custom rom with supercharge scripts would give you all the smoothie goodness you ever wanted. And you can put it on stock too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
good luck!
Android KitKat was a pretty hecking good android version and it's such a distant memory. Someone should make a GSI of android KitKat to get nostalgia on times when we weren't depressed bois looking at memes. Tell me you didn't like the little house in the navigation bar and the light grey tone of the settings menu.
Run it in a VM
Treble is supported since Android 8.0. We cant make a GSI of android versions lower than 8.0
Useless thread.
Maybe, but a KitKat theme and icon set would be eminently do-able.
I actually did some testing of Trying to boot an android image in a VM, Ive tried an x86 cm14 image in limbo_x86, got to the bootloader then nothing, I've got limbo (non x86) installed, but just need to find an arm android image to see if it will boot, if anyone has a link to one, it can't be a GSI though, needs to be a bootable iso
Twisted Prime said:
Android KitKat was a pretty hecking good android version and it's such a distant memory. Someone should make a GSI of android KitKat to get nostalgia on times when we weren't depressed bois looking at memes. Tell me you didn't like the little house in the navigation bar and the light grey tone of the settings menu.
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You cant run an android version which is older as the android version as the device was released.
matze19999 said:
You cant run an android version which is older as the android version as the device was released.
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You actually can. I managed to successfully boot 7.0 on a phone that was running 7.1 out of the box ?. Or even lollipop on MM device although everything was constantly crashing.
But booting KitKat on Oreo device etc. Not gonna happen. We would need probably a lot of kernel changes and new vendor made specifically for KitKat.
And don't forget that only Oreo has GSI support. Adding it to KitKat would require millions of lines of code changes. And even if some Dev wanted to do that.. he wouldn't be able to do it by himself.
There are more reasons why it won't happen but yeah.
I'd love to see it too and sometimes I work on porting some older apps to newest Android versions. If You PM me on Telegram, I can send You Android Donut (I think) Settings app that works (60-70%) even on Android P
I could even probably release a hybrid rom that would contain most Android 1.x apps and it would be based on Phh rom so that it would work on most devices. But there would be things that would most likely never work.
Those are:
System UI
Settings would be kinda broken.
And lots of other bugs that would annoy an average user.
What should work:
Settings(basic functionality + UI)
1.x Apps like camera, calendar, calculator, browser etc
Ringtones
Wallpaper
Maybe launcher
Themed Status bar and navigation bar with some old icons
Maybe system in general could be themed slightly to look more old.
Old Android Market and old YouTube etc but they could be buggy because of server changes etc.
I think I'll try it tomorrow just for fun and will post screens to my group.
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You actually can. I managed to successfully boot 7.0 on a phone that was running 7.1 out of the box . Or even lollipop on MM device although everything was constantly crashing.
But booting KitKat on Oreo device etc. Not gonna happen. We would need probably a lot of kernel changes and new vendor made specifically for KitKat.
And don't forget that only Oreo has GSI support. Adding it to KitKat would require millions of lines of code changes. And even if some Dev wanted to do that.. he wouldn't be able to do it by himself.
There are more reasons why it won't happen but yeah.
I'd love to see it too and sometimes I work on porting some older apps to newest Android versions. If You PM me on Telegram, I can send You Android Donut (I think) Settings app that works (60-70%) even on Android P
I could even probably release a hybrid rom that would contain most Android 1.x apps and it would be based on Phh rom so that it would work on most devices. But there would be things that would most likely never work.
Those are:
System UI
Settings would be kinda broken.
And lots of other bugs that would annoy an average user.
What should work:
Settings(basic functionality + UI)
1.x Apps like camera, calendar, calculator, browser etc
Ringtones
Wallpaper
Maybe launcher
Themed Status bar and navigation bar with some old icons
Maybe system in general could be themed slightly to look more old.
Old Android Market and old YouTube etc but they could be buggy because of server changes etc.
I think I'll try it tomorrow just for fun and will post screens to my group.
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1.x GSI
dylanneve1 said:
1.x GSI
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Hybrid 1.x GSI.
But hey! Every Dev project is a fun project!
Edit: 1.6 was kinda buggy and boring so I decided to make a "Hybrid KitKat GSI" If anyone's interested, check my group for screenshots .
Edit2: Posted an early alpha in my group. (Not going to post it on XDA just to avoid breaking rules, if there are any)
ProtoDeVNan0 said:
Hybrid 1.x GSI.
But hey! Every Dev project is a fun project!
Edit: 1.6 was kinda buggy and boring so I decided to make a "Hybrid KitKat GSI" If anyone's interested, check my group for screenshots .
Edit2: Posted an early alpha in my group. (Not going to post it on XDA just to avoid breaking rules, if there are any)
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Link?
MAME Arcade said:
Link?
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XDA doesn't allow posting Telegram links anymore. So just find one of my rom threads and it hopefully still contains a link to my group. But I think that we can get best kitkat experience by buying some older phone for cheap. KitKat launcher doesn't even support 19:9 aspect ratio so it looks kinda ugly on some devices. I know it would be cool to run KitKat on latest smartphones but Android has changed so much that even theming it to look like KitKat is pretty difficult. And some images need resizing cause they were designed to work on let's say 720p screens and lower. So when You use them on 1080p or 1440p device, icons look tiny.
You could probably create AVD with KitKat, install VNC on it and stream it to Your smartphone.
Twisted Prime said:
Android KitKat was a pretty hecking good android version and it's such a distant memory. Someone should make a GSI of android KitKat to get nostalgia on times when we weren't depressed bois looking at memes. Tell me you didn't like the little house in the navigation bar and the light grey tone of the settings menu.
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I SUPPORT UR iDEA!
btw,i miss the xperia's UI of ICS 4.0.4
ProtoDeVNan0 said:
You actually can. I managed to successfully boot 7.0 on a phone that was running 7.1 out of the box . Or even lollipop on MM device although everything was constantly crashing.
But booting KitKat on Oreo device etc. Not gonna happen. We would need probably a lot of kernel changes and new vendor made specifically for KitKat.
And don't forget that only Oreo has GSI support. Adding it to KitKat would require millions of lines of code changes. And even if some Dev wanted to do that.. he wouldn't be able to do it by himself.
There are more reasons why it won't happen but yeah.
I'd love to see it too and sometimes I work on porting some older apps to newest Android versions. If You PM me on Telegram, I can send You Android Donut (I think) Settings app that works (60-70%) even on Android P
I could even probably release a hybrid rom that would contain most Android 1.x apps and it would be based on Phh rom so that it would work on most devices. But there would be things that would most likely never work.
Those are:
System UI
Settings would be kinda broken.
And lots of other bugs that would annoy an average user.
What should work:
Settings(basic functionality + UI)
1.x Apps like camera, calendar, calculator, browser etc
Ringtones
Wallpaper
Maybe launcher
Themed Status bar and navigation bar with some old icons
Maybe system in general could be themed slightly to look more old.
Old Android Market and old YouTube etc but they could be buggy because of server changes etc.
I think I'll try it tomorrow just for fun and will post screens to my group.
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Wow!
Have u build it?
Btw, i also like this idea!
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
10.0.11.0 - Global
I can't believe how bad the MIUI 10 global firmware is...
I had heard the MIUI might not be to everyone's tastes, so I was prepared for a little bit of disruption...
However it's much worse I expected.
Firstly, a few positive points:
The hardware is top notch. It's a bit heavy and thick, but it's a very comfortable device to hold. I LOVE the hardware.
Visually it's actually quite appealing. The settings screen has a nice "slinky" effect when scrolling hits the top and bottom. There's also some nice animated when apps open and close from the launcher.
That's about all the good things I can say about it.
The worst things:
Notifications are just plain broken. By default, all installed apps only show notification badges. They don't show icons in the status bar and they don't show on the lock screen.
I can't imagine what MIUI designer thought this was a good design choice. Notifications is the one thing that Android does WAY better than iOS, so why MI would nerf notifications to be almost useless is unfathomable.
So after figuring out why notifications weren't working, I went through every app and for every category of each app enabled notifications in the status bar AND lock screen.
Really annoying, but I thought "hey, you only have to do this once, right? Stop complaining..."
But even then the notifications on the don't work right. They show once... when you unlock the phone they all disappear off the lockscreen forever. Consider this example, I set a reminder to for 12pm. It shows on the lockscreen at 12:01, but I'm not ready to deal with it yet. At 12:02 I unlock the phone to make a phone call. Boom notification disappears. Next time I look at my lockscreen, nothing to do. Complete and utter bollocks!
There's lots of bloat apps on the device. Why would I want to use the MI Messenger when I can use the awesome Google Messages?
So I install Google Messages... and guess what... notifications don't work. I changed all the stupid defaults to enable everything, still no notifications.
That's probably due to the very aggressive power management on the phone. Obviously MI disable this for their own apps (so they run correctly), but for every other app the defaults are set very aggressively. Why MI felt they had to rewrite the, already very competent, power management built into Android 9 I don't know... but they did and it' bad. Great you made my battery last a few hours longer, but you also made my phone completely useless...
Back to the bloat, you can't remove OR hide any of the built in schlock, also very annoying.
The iOS like launcher with no app drawer and ALL icons on the home screen, also very annoying.
I could go on and on... The Mi Mix 3 is a beautiful piece of hardware that it completely and utterly let down by abysmal software.
I'm going to try putting the "Unofficial Pixel Experience" ROM on it. If that doesn't perform well I will be selling this baby at a loss, because MIUI 10 is completely unusable.
pm-2019 said:
10.0.11.0 - Global
I can't believe how bad the MIUI 10 global firmware is...
I had heard the MIUI might not be to everyone's tastes, so I was prepared for a little bit of disruption...
However it's much worse I expected.
Firstly, a few positive points:
The hardware is top notch. It's a bit heavy and thick, but it's a very comfortable device to hold. I LOVE the hardware.
Visually it's actually quite appealing. The settings screen has a nice "slinky" effect when scrolling hits the top and bottom. There's also some nice animated when apps open and close from the launcher.
That's about all the good things I can say about it.
The worst things:
Notifications are just plain broken. By default, all installed apps only show notification badges. They don't show icons in the status bar and they don't show on the lock screen.
I can't imagine what MIUI designer thought this was a good design choice. Notifications is the one thing that Android does WAY better than iOS, so why MI would nerf notifications to be almost useless is unfathomable.
So after figuring out why notifications weren't working, I went through every app and for every category of each app enabled notifications in the status bar AND lock screen.
Really annoying, but I thought "hey, you only have to do this once, right? Stop complaining..."
But even then the notifications on the don't work right. They show once... when you unlock the phone they all disappear off the lockscreen forever. Consider this example, I set a reminder to for 12pm. It shows on the lockscreen at 12:01, but I'm not ready to deal with it yet. At 12:02 I unlock the phone to make a phone call. Boom notification disappears. Next time I look at my lockscreen, nothing to do. Complete and utter bollocks!
There's lots of bloat apps on the device. Why would I want to use the MI Messenger when I can use the awesome Google Messages?
So I install Google Messages... and guess what... notifications don't work. I changed all the stupid defaults to enable everything, still no notifications.
That's probably due to the very aggressive power management on the phone. Obviously MI disable this for their own apps (so they run correctly), but for every other app the defaults are set very aggressively. Why MI felt they had to rewrite the, already very competent, power management built into Android 9 I don't know... but they did and it' bad. Great you made my battery last a few hours longer, but you also made my phone completely useless...
Back to the bloat, you can't remove OR hide any of the built in schlock, also very annoying.
The iOS like launcher with no app drawer and ALL icons on the home screen, also very annoying.
I could go on and on... The Mi Mix 3 is a beautiful piece of hardware that it completely and utterly let down by abysmal software.
I'm going to try putting the "Unofficial Pixel Experience" ROM on it. If that doesn't perform well I will be selling this baby at a loss, because MIUI 10 is completely unusable.
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Xiaomi phone has Xiaomi apps, you sound surprised.... Should of just got a pixel phone
I don't recognize any of these criticisms of MIUI 10. This is my first MIUI phone, I've previously run mostly ROMs based on Lineage, which is pretty close to stock Android. Notifications work fine for me, with the exception of Google Messages which is borked, Textra is a perfectly good substitute and works. The native messaging app does have problems, but with group texts not notifications. I've had no difficulties because of apps being killed in the background, quite the contrary compared to my previous phone with its pitiful RAM, multitasking on the Mix3 is, as I expected, significantly improved, and returning to apps much later almost always results in state preservation rather than a restart. Stock launcher?? Who the hell ever runs a stock launcher anyway? There are a million-and-one alternatives, including the Pixel launcher if you prefer, this being one of the biggest (and multitudinous) advantages of Android over crApple.
I love the phone but can agree that MIUI10 notifications are ****. Totally broken. Over aggressive battery management. I heard they are working on that.
I also think MIUI is... err... not my favourite flavour of Android (to be polite).
Thank goodness for Pixel Experience.
To be fair, I think their ROM is highly geared towards China. That's why they need all the custom non-Google apps.
However that's no excuse for the notifications issue. That's just bad. However I don't think this is a Mi Mix 3 issue... Its a MIUI issue and if you Google "MIUI notifications" you will see people complaining about it in MIUI 8.
Here's Android Police (a really reputable site in my opinion) complaining about it for the POCO F1
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...g-miui-poco-f1/#The_notification_icon_tragedy
Basically notifications are bad on MIUI and they have been for a while. And Xiaomi don't seem able or willing to fix it...
mmm_ok said:
I also think MIUI is... err... not my favourite flavour of Android (to be polite).
Thank goodness for Pixel Experience.
To be fair, I think their ROM is highly geared towards China. That's why they need all the custom non-Google apps.
However that's no excuse for the notifications issue. That's just bad. However I don't think this is a Mi Mix 3 issue... Its a MIUI issue and if you Google "MIUI notifications" you will see people complaining about it in MIUI 8.
Here's Android Police (a really reputable site in my opinion) complaining about it for the POCO F1
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...g-miui-poco-f1/#The_notification_icon_tragedy
Basically notifications are bad on MIUI and they have been for a while. And Xiaomi don't seem able or willing to fix it...
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Of course it's highly geared towards China, it's a Chinese manufacturer who's main customer base is China lol
Only bad in Chinese ROM but that's for the Chinese market.
in Developer Settings, scroll to bottom and disable "MIUI Optimization" and it will work
i killed tupac said:
in Developer Settings, scroll to bottom and disable "MIUI Optimization" and it will work
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Mmm have you a proofs? I mean, i already did it and no positive results.
So just some perspective here, I have a Pixel XL of all 3 generations, and multiple other devices that run stock or close to stock Android. I bought this device BECAUSE I wanted to check out MIUI in more detail. I invested several hundred hours trying to get MIUI to boot on my Pixel XL. I was never able to get it to boot all the way into setup. There are a lot of cool things MIUI does, and there are some annoyances. However, I think we can both agree that the build quality and price of the Xiaomi devices are second to none at the moment. I haven't seen build quality like this since my Droid X and Droid Rzr.
The nice thing is that we should get full TWRP support and once we have a working device tree (I won't lie, I've been working on that and a TWRP build) we can get some open source goodness with a full ROM. If you hate MIUI that much why would you purchase the device? Also as far as manufacturers go, Xiaomi is far from worst about updates and ongoing device support from what I'm seeing. Especially with these "halo" devices.
PWn3R said:
If you hate MIUI that much why would you purchase the device?
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There seems to be an undercurrent of "Why did you buy it if you hate it so much?" and "If you don't want MIUI apps, you should have just bought a Pixel", so let's just clear a few things up...
This is NOT me:
I really hate MIUI... but I'm going to buy a Xiaomi phone anyway and complain about it.
This is me:
Huh, that Mi Mix 3 looks really cool... Never owned a Xiaomi phone before... I wonder if I should take a chance...
Oh crap I'm not getting ANY notifications. Wow, this MIUI is really broken.
As I said in my first post, I love the hardware. Unfortunately, in my opinion, MIUI, on the global version of this device at least, is busted. I just can't believe that they would have released something so half baked.
Fortunately, I've installed a custom ROM and waved goodbye to that MIUI nightmare.
pm-2019 said:
There seems to be an undercurrent of "Why did you buy it if you hate it so much?" and "If you don't want MIUI apps, you should have just bought a Pixel", so let's just clear a few things up...
This is NOT me:
I really hate MIUI... but I'm going to buy a Xiaomi phone anyway and complain about it.
This is me:
Huh, that Mi Mix 3 looks really cool... Never owned a Xiaomi phone before... I wonder if I should take a chance...
Oh crap I'm not getting ANY notifications. Wow, this MIUI is really broken.
As I said in my first post, I love the hardware. Unfortunately, in my opinion, MIUI, on the global version of this device at least, is busted. I just can't believe that they would have released something so half baked.
Fortunately, I've installed a custom ROM and waved goodbye to that MIUI nightmare.
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Well, that makes more sense. I haven't had notification problems on the global room, but it's flashed on the Chinese device in my case and it was dirty flashed over the EU rom without wiping data. I'm sure given what I saw with the Mix 2s there I had very briefly that they will sort out the issues on the global rom.
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Almost all of the issues I've had with notifications were down to the combination of Pie/MIUI, and the multitude of confusing notification settings. Once I'd got all the permissions sorted out, notifications worked perfectly with the exception of Google Messages, and the solution to that was to switch to another message provider then switch back again, I don't know why that works but it does (I have to do it each time I update, apparently). The developer option thing doesn't work, all that does is reset all the notification permissions, leading to the tedious task of setting them back again. MIUI does have a learning curve, but it's certainly not a nightmare.
invisiblewave said:
Almost all of the issues I've had with notifications were down to the combination of Pie/MIUI, and the multitude of confusing notification settings. Once I'd got all the permissions sorted out, notifications worked perfectly with the exception of Google Messages, and the solution to that was to switch to another message provider then switch back again, I don't know why that works but it does (I have to do it each time I update, apparently). The developer option thing doesn't work, all that does is reset all the notification permissions, leading to the tedious task of setting them back again. MIUI does have a learning curve, but it's certainly not a nightmare.
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I can't use Google Messages because I'm on Verizon and they limit mms to 30kb unless you are using an "approved" device or using their Messages+ app. I gave up and just went to that instead. Getting notifications working on that just required setting allow change system settings for the app, enabling notifications in the app permissions thing from MIUI.
gonna echo everything said so far about miui notification settings. every other phone manufacturer i've ever used has ALL notifications enabled by default. it's a much faster task of just disabling any apps you don't want to see notifications from as they pop up. why in the hell would they do the reverse?
other than that, everything about it is top notch. but the notification system. that is my ONE and only complaint about the entire experience. so far. i've only had the phone for three days. let's see what else pops up (or doesn't, in this case)
ps. the only app i have any issue with notification wise after the tedious setup is hangouts, but from what i understand that's been a google issue for a long long time, and not an android issue.
How is always on display working for you guys? In my case, it just shows the clock and date, and incoming notifications are not highlighted or anything
Nooblit said:
gonna echo everything said so far about miui notification settings. every other phone manufacturer i've ever used has ALL notifications enabled by default. it's a much faster task of just disabling any apps you don't want to see notifications from as they pop up. why in the hell would they do the reverse?
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Because everyone wants notifications right. Other than for calls and texts, having to manually disable notifications for all my apps is annoying and a waste of time.
urtv said:
Because everyone wants notifications right. Other than for calls and texts, having to manually disable notifications for all my apps is annoying and a waste of time.
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i find it a waste of time to have to do the reverse. OH and not to mention that if you go into an apps notification settings to adjust something small and unrelated like the sound the app makes or something like that, all of the system notifications get erased, causing you to have to go into the system notification settings fort hat specific app and have to re-enable everything over and over again. this happens with textra, hangouts, pretty much any sms or messaging app. it's literally backwards, the way they do it, and makes less sense than how literally every other manufacturer does it. i don't appreciate difference for the sake of it. there should be some logic behind it, and quite frankly that logic is broken.
with all due respect, of course.
I think that MIUI's idea regarding notification default settings is related with improving battery duration. I agree that notifications is the weak point here. But the fact that the notificacion settings go back to default when running the security application, or sometimes you don't know why, is worst and annoying, because you won't know it untill you miss an important notification because of it.
I came from a Mi Mix 1, and it was all the same...
bursuk2007 said:
How is always on display working for you guys? In my case, it just shows the clock and date, and incoming notifications are not highlighted or anything
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Same problem here! I have my phone since yesterday and comes from a Galaxy S7 edge where i got all notifications on my AOD. But on the MIx 3 i just can see the time and the date and no notifications at all. Is this normal, or do i have to set something in the settings. (MIUI 10.0.11.0 Stabel)
Thanks for any hints!
Philipp