[Q] Speaker/Mic failure? or am I being daft - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys,
I've had a problem for a while where people think I'm not speaking loud enough on the phone, so I have to raise my voice even though the Mic volume is fairly high. This might be related to signal though. I've also noticed however at the bottom of the phone sound only comes from one of the grills.
Is this correct, or should sound come from both? Looking at replacement parts from eBay, they "look" like there's only one speaker, but not sure. If you're not sure how to test this, play something through there and block the grill with your finger

Anyone got 5 mins to try this on their G2 at least please, would be much appreciated!

Next time you are on the phone, pay attention to where you position your fingers. Many have had this problem, including me.
The mic is at the bottom of the phone and at a place where it is common to place a finger at. So you are probably covering the mic with a finger (likely your little finger). Avoid doing that and you'll be good to go

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Damaging speaker of XDA II is as easy as 123? true or false?

Well i think its true. why? read on!
I bought my XDA II a few weeks ago. Its a love & hate machine & i won't get into that. But i think i have damaged the speaker .. as in i can notice sound getting distorted at times. It probably happened when i played this audio file at full volume .. which was actually for less than 2 seconds!! Ever since then, i can tell how the sound from the speaker comes out distorted. Same exact thing happened with my brother, where he played some song at full volume & it apperntly blew his speaker. I've soft reseted the machine multiple times (who doesn't!) ever since but no hard reset yet.
Although my question is .. is it really _that_ easy to blow the speaker?! The device should either have a speaker that can handle the amplification it is being providing, or not amplify the sound to levels the speaker can't handle. Blowing your speaker away on the first attempt to play something loud seems awfully lousy to me from a machine's design point of view.
Has anyone else experienced such problem or know of some remedy? I don't want to open the machine up & get the speaker repaired. Would really appreciate any help on the matter.
Thank you all.
Hi m8. Don't know if you've tried this but I had a problem a while ago where I could not hear any sound at all. I could make a phone call and ther person on the other end could hear me fine but I could not hear anything. I found the way to make it work again would be to squeeze the thing at the top near the earpiece (as if it was a loose connection).
Like I said, don't know if you've tried this but it worked for me. Have you got warranty?
Hey Camel, i have had my sx56(wallaby) all the way apart, and the only thing attatching the mainboard to the speaker are two little spring-loaded contacts, perhaps try tightening the screws on the back of your device (if it's anything like mine), this should make the connection between your speaker and mainboard more secure.
Tim
speaker
hey mate,
yep same thing with mine. now anything above about 50% in a phone call and it's all distorted.
pretty annoying, i've just got to get around to opening it up and checking the speaker contacts/replacing speaker with a spare.
will post results.

Lower volume

Hi all,
I tend to use a BT headset with my Athena most of the time, but today I forgot it before going out! so I had to go back to using the Athena to my ear, not a huge problem with hands my size, however even with the volume down to its lowest it was still way to loud. Does anyone know of a reg hack or small program that will let you lower the volume down to a discreet volume, and not a hands free volume? its not a problem most of the time, but as a paramedic some of my calls can be a little personal. Its just in case it happens again. you can appreciate I'm not in the position to nip home for left items
Many thanks
Jay
responderman said:
Hi all,
I tend to use a BT headset with my Athena most of the time, but today I forgot it before going out! so I had to go back to using the Athena to my ear, not a huge problem with hands my size, however even with the volume down to its lowest it was still way to loud. Does anyone know of a reg hack or small program that will let you lower the volume down to a discreet volume, and not a hands free volume? its not a problem most of the time, but as a paramedic some of my calls can be a little personal. Its just in case it happens again. you can appreciate I'm not in the position to nip home for left items
Many thanks
Jay
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I put my fingers over the loudspeakers.... isn't confortable but it works!
I have been thinking about this issue a bit lately myself. My thought is to glue something over both the left and right speaker to completely or almost completely seal it. I might try with different materials and see the effect. May be we can make it almost like a normal embedded earpiece.. just thinking.
eaglesteve said:
I have been thinking about this issue a bit lately myself. My thought is to glue something over both the left and right speaker to completely or almost completely seal it. I might try with different materials and see the effect. May be we can make it almost like a normal embedded earpiece.. just thinking.
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hi
i already tried to put tape over the speakers, and can tell you it wont work out. it is like the hole athena will sound, the backcover acts like a speaker. when you tape the speaker holes it sounds a litle bit like it came from a cave, but is still much to loud for a 'private' conversation. i think you have to grab a soldering iron and a resistor, to come to a solution, or someone find a way to reduce the volume by software some more than the volume slider can do.
mad
Buy several cheap sets of earbuds and put them in different locatations where you might need them (car, office, briefcase). Not needing stereo for phone calls, clip off one of the earbuds for easier handling.
Brad
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miterb said:
Buy several cheap sets of earbuds and put them in different locatations where you might need them (car, office, briefcase). Not needing stereo for phone calls, clip off one of the earbuds for easier handling.
Brad
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Well that is a good idea, and one that I have done already. One at the ambulance station, one at home, one in the car, and one in the rig. three ended back at home AHH the price of age! The one in the rig got nicked, so ive put them all back now, but thats why I need the program or hack.
Thanks for the idea's guys, any more?
take care
Jay
eaglesteve said:
I have been thinking about this issue a bit lately myself. My thought is to glue something over both the left and right speaker to completely or almost completely seal it. I might try with different materials and see the effect. May be we can make it almost like a normal embedded earpiece.. just thinking.
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That is a good idea, could it be so, that there is a kinds of software, that we can adjust the volumen of left and right speaker, so that we can just use the right speaker or just use the left speaker, what ever. has anybody heard of that kind of tiny little soft ware?
Is there a regestry setting to lower the in call volume on the athena itself, so it would start at nothing?
Any solution on this "problem"? Sometimes my headset runs out of battery.
Regards
Hans
This only seems to be a problem with some of the cooked ROMS. The original WM6 ROM that came with my 7501 had a good low-volume level, but when I switched to AP4 the low-end is what used to be about mid-level before.
It must be either a registry change, or a sound driver.
Or a software that make it possible to decrease the volume more

Took the plunge with the Microphone mod [Video added]

So I opened the back of the A500 and looked around abit and switched places with the microphone and the noise canceller. And now at least when I record, peoples voices can be heard pretty decent. Plus I drilled a hole in the 'hole' to open up the space for the sound to come in abit.
So even with the Acer case on you can hear the voices pretty well
Before you couldnt hear anything. But now the whole google voice thing isnt so easy to use since the mic is face the opposite way but I never used it anyways, plus for VOIP calls its much better to use a headphone.
Just sharing
Please feel free to ask any questions.
Cheers!
Edit: From what I saw in the back I believe the microphone could be changed to a better one some day. Just a matter of finding a good replacement.
(01/08/2011)Add: Here is a sample of the sound when you record a person speaking infont of the iconia now with my mod.
Link sample with modded microphone: [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33166156/Test.3gp
This is my son and as you can see you can hear him perfectly well
I think the noise canceller could be adjusted to 'muffle' the screeching sound abit.
Cheers!
Edit: Link was broken, fixed now.
i am really thinking about doing that. Iit easy to open the case?
mnaderi said:
i am really thinking about doing that. Iit easy to open the case?
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Yes its actually very easy, you have to begin at the corner either left or right on the bottom of the A500 (meaning the Dock port area) you take something very thin and sturdy but be careful not scratch it up or bend to hard just make an opening maybe 2,3mm then stick something plasticky (like a protective shield cover slate) but strong and stick in the opening and drag slowly to the right until the entire left side is open (left to the Dock port I mean) and then from there you just gently lift up up until you have the whole bottom open and then you just again you the plastic tool to drag the sides (left and right) and just gently lift with the plastic tool and slowly it will loosen bit by bit once you have left and right and the bottom released then you just hold the whole thing and lift it and with will click off by itself from the upper part.
Here is a video showing pretty much what I described, its very easy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIvbWo_p3KI
That tear down video makes things look easy
UnicornKaz said:
That tear down video makes things look easy
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...there's a tear down vid?
thanks, i opened it up and did some tweaking unfortunately it's only about 30% better, i also made a hole for the case as well. how much did yours improve when you did your mods. i'm guessing the rear mic has to be tweaked as well. thanks
Did you switch places with the mic and the noise canceller?
Pull the Mic out take it to radio shack and get a better set of mic to go in there.I have done this with Michael and internal speakers on notebooks. But I have Bluetooth high def headset. So no need here
this mic problem is seriously killing me.
I often use my tabto record videos but i can never hear any voices cause they are really low. So i am ready to do anything to the tab for a better microphone experience.
As far as drilling holes is concerned, i would want to know where is the mic suitated if there are two. I do noe that one is on the top of the screen in the middle gap between the metal cover n screen glass. Is there another one?
And what can be possibly done to fix or better this issue?
I even tried voip and no1 could hear me, very disappointing pls help sum1.....
i found a kind of solution on youtube...
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S5 Duos low mic

Hey guys just got my S5 and I am told that the mic volume is quote low by people I speak to. Is this normal or I have a faulty device on my hands
Very unlikely to be a hardware problem. Usually it's a user error e.g. not holding the phone close enough to your mouth or using the phone in very loud environments.
Try using the phone normally i.e. not in speaker phone mode where performance is worse and you annoy everyone within earshot. You can also try disabling noise reduction in the settings menu. Infrequently you may have water, dirt or your finger (when you hold the phone) obscuring the microphone hole on the bottom of the phone.
It's also possible to tweak the mic volume in the service menu /audio submenu. A forum search will explain the details if you wish to try that.
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Very unlikely to be a hardware problem. Usually it's a user error e.g. not holding the phone close enough to your mouth or using the phone in very loud environments.
Try using the phone normally i.e. not in speaker phone mode where performance is worse and you annoy everyone within earshot. You can also try disabling noise reduction in the settings menu. Infrequently you may have water, dirt or your finger (when you hold the phone) obscuring the microphone hole on the bottom of the phone.
It's also possible to tweak the mic volume in the service menu /audio submenu. A forum search will explain the details if you wish to try that.
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HI, thanks for the info.. i have seen almost the same in the forum and outside like here http://droidtricks.blogspot.ae/2011/09/how-to-increase-or-boost-low-microphone.html
Is this still valid ?
Same issue with me
dusk1911 said:
Hey guys just got my S5 and I am told that the mic volume is quote low by people I speak to. Is this normal or I have a faulty device on my hands
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I have the same problem on the same device - but from all the googling I did - It turns out it a common problem with the S5 (single or dual SIM).
So far I did not find any solution to the problem...
Please share if you had any luck?
I am even considering widening the hole of the microphone (it is about 30% narrower then the S4), I do not care that much of the water protection...
Solved!
Happy to report I solved my low mic. problem!
Unfortunately it compromises the waterproofing, but I gladly sacrificed it!
I did poke in the microphone hole with a tin wire about 3-4 mm into the hole. I did not feel any resistance, but apparently I broke the waterproofing membrane on the microphone hole.
Now people can hear me even when I am whispering! I am so happy with my phone! (at one point I was thinking of replacing it because of the muffled mic.!)
The membrane I am talking about can be seen on the middle frame over the mic. hole on the attached picture.
Please if you do what I did - be careful, it might damage the microphone...
armsel said:
Happy to report I solved my low mic. problem!
Unfortunately it compromises the waterproofing, but I gladly sacrificed it!
I did poke in the microphone hole with a tin wire about 3-4 mm into the hole. I did not feel any resistance, but apparently I broke the waterproofing membrane on the microphone hole.
Now people can hear me even when I am whispering! I am so happy with my phone! (at one point I was thinking of replacing it because of the muffled mic.!)
The membrane I am talking about can be seen on the middle frame over the mic. hole on the attached picture.
Please if you do what I did - be careful, it might damage the microphone...
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Hi armsel,
Good Spot!!! thanks for sharing the trick. I am having the same problem with my and I wish to follow your procedure in my phone.
Please provide more information with detailed steps and screen shots because I'm little confused in figured out microphone hole why because found two holes in bottom and top of the phone. I knew its my own risk and don't consider about waterproof.
Thanks in advance...
Tvm G said:
Hi armsel,
Good Spot!!! thanks for sharing the trick. I am having the same problem with my and I wish to follow your procedure in my phone.
Please provide more information with detailed steps and screen shots because I'm little confused in figured out microphone hole why because found two holes in bottom and top of the phone. I knew its my own risk and don't consider about waterproof.
Thanks in advance...
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Your primary microphone is the one on the bottom - next to the USB port (the top microphone is used for noise cancellation and you can leave as it is). You only need to poke the bottom one. Be gentle - if you feel resistance - don't push (I did not feel any resistance as far as I can remember). Test afterwords and see if there is an improvement - if not, try to penetrate little bit further (I believe I went something like 3, maybe even 5 mm in).
Best way to test - if you have another phone and call it on Viber (I did that with my wife galaxy S4 mini). And leave your next to a radio set with talk show on.
Good luck! :good:
Solved!!!
armsel said:
Your primary microphone is the one on the bottom - next to the USB port (the top microphone is used for noise cancellation and you can leave as it is). You only need to poke the bottom one. Be gentle - if you feel resistance - don't push (I did not feel any resistance as far as I can remember). Test afterwords and see if there is an improvement - if not, try to penetrate little bit further (I believe I went something like 3, maybe even 5 mm in).
Best way to test - if you have another phone and call it on Viber (I did that with my wife galaxy S4 mini). And leave your next to a radio set with talk show on.
Good luck! :good:
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Hi armsel,
Problem is solved now !!! Microphone is working fine now my voice is audible.
Poked with small needle at least 3mm to 4mm and test my voice with voice call and some messenger apps works fine :good:
I am wondering how you got this trick bcos searched whole web but could not get a right solution.
Great help and Thanks Man...

LG V35 Microphone Completely Dead.

Hello I have an LG V35 that I absolutely love. This has been one of the best phones I've owned. The screen is nearly unbreakable, I've dropped this thing on concrete more times than I can count, I've dropped wrenches and sockets directly on it while working on the car more times than I can count. -- hyperbole I can count between 1/2 dozen to a dozen but the point still stands --
Now around 6 months ago my main microphone upped and quit working. However if I switched to speakerphone the Mic would work perfectly. A minor inconvenience. Just the other day I received a call and the speakerphone Mic no longer works either?
Now I'm thinking hardware issue, but before I tear this thing apart I figured I'd check with experts here. Lord knows I've made that mistake in the past! So I'd really like to know.
1. It appears the USB-C charging port and at least 1 Mic are both on the same module? That would track because I've had some issues with fast charging for a while now.
2. Are there 2 distinct separate microphones in different locations or are they both on the same module?
3. Is there any chance this isn't a hardware failure?
I'd greatly appreciate any advice. I have a hard time finding a phone I can live with so I plan to at least take a stab at saving this one.
I definitely agree with you about the V35. It continues to perform really well even after four years. Indeed, it is sad that no other phone has come along to match it and that is appealing as an upgrade. I'm in no hurry.
About your speaker problem, you might consider replacing it altogether. There are pristine ULM units available from Amazon for about 185 USD.
Update! I fixed it! I was about to pull the trigger and buy a new mic module I decided to do a little more troubleshooting.
When I ran my voice recording program still nothing, however I noticed when I tapped on the bottom of the phone with my fingernail there was a very slight sound recorded. Now it's been my experience that when there is a hardware failure on a phone it fails completely not partway like old analog devices were prone to.
So inspected the bottom very carefully and found that what I had been cleaning wasn't the opening for the microphone but actually for the speaker! There is a teeny tiny hole on both the bottom & top where the mic is located. I would up skinning the plastic off of a twist tie and very carefully cleaned that hole out of all the junk in there. I use my phone while working on vehicles a lot and what I pulled out looked like bearing grease of similar.
After the clean out it works like a champ!

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