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Hey,
So I recently bought an unlocked T-Mobile HTC HD2 from the marketplace forum. However, it does not seem to be recognizing my Telus SIM card. It simply states "No SIM, Please insert SIM" even when my SIM is inserted.
I thought it may be because the phone was not unlocked as it was described to be, but then I tried a family members Rogers SIM, and it worked perfectly.
Any idea as to what's going on?
You might need to get a new sim card. Sometimes if you have a older sim card the HD2 will not recognize it.
Hm, that would be interesting, considering my SIM is less than a year old...
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DS1495 said:
Hm, that would be interesting, considering my SIM is less than a year old...
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Hmmm that is curious then, maybe it is not the right type of sim card as there is different classes of sim card, or at least I think there is. you might want to take your HD2 to your local Telus store and tell them your problem and see if they think a new sim card will help or maybe have another suggestion for you.
So, I just tried my brothers Telus SIM, and it also did not work...
Is it possible that the phone is only unlocked for use on Rogers here in Canada?
I'll head to the Telus store tomorrow and see what they say..
DS1495 said:
So, I just tried my brothers Telus SIM, and it also did not work...
Is it possible that the phone is only unlocked for use on Rogers here in Canada?
I'll head to the Telus store tomorrow and see what they say..
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It is unlikely that it is not unlocked to Telus as when a phone is sim unlocked it is suppose to be unlocked to all cell providers, but when you sim unlock a phone you have to have a sim card from another provider so maybe it just unlocked it to that carrier of the sim card you use to unlock the phone. I am not 100% sure about this as Io have never sim unlocked any of my phones but I have read plenty about doing it and people that have done it.
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It is unlikely that it is not unlocked to Telus as when a phone is sim unlocked it is suppose to be unlocked to all cell providers, but when you sim unlock a phone you have to have a sim card from another provider so maybe it just unlocked it to that carrier of the sim card you use to unlock the phone. I am not 100% sure about this as Io have never sim unlocked any of my phones but I have read plenty about doing it and people that have done it.
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Yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking. Although it was my understanding that even though you have one SIM in it when it's unlocked, it should be SIM unlocked for other carriers as well. But maybe I'm mistaken.
Should I try unlocking it again using an online service, but this time make sure I've got my Telus SIM in it?
DS1495 said:
Yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking. Although it was my understanding that even though you have one SIM in it when it's unlocked, it should be SIM unlocked for other carriers as well. But maybe I'm mistaken.
Should I try unlocking it again using an online service, but this time make sure I've got my Telus SIM in it?
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Well like I said I was under the impression once you sim unlock your phone it is unlocked to all carriers. But hey it couldn't hurt to buy a unlock code from one of the many services online that you can buy a code from, they are not expensive. But make sure you buy one from a reputable seller. Plus most of the online services have the code to you in very short order.
Hi,
I was just wondering what type of message to expect when you put in a foreign (Canadian provider: Rogers\Chatr, and Wind\Mobilicity) SIM card into the phone be it unlocked or not. I ordered a phone and it would not even detect the SIM card, it just said no SIM Card Emergency Calls Only. So I sent it back for a refund which is still pending approval, but the seller still claims that the phone works with US carrier SIM cards (T-Mobile, AT&T).
What do you guys think?
i have a wind mobile sim based android phone with a qualcom chipset and sim booted right into it. Pre and post rooted the phone worked just fine. Stupid question but was the sim inserted properly and was it seated correctly and titly so that it was connecting. I've never had an issue with foreign phones. I'm stateside
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i have a wind mobile sim based android phone with a qualcom chipset and sim booted right into it. Pre and post rooted the phone worked just fine. Stupid question but was the sim inserted properly and was it seated correctly and titly so that it was connecting. I've never had an issue with foreign phones. I'm stateside
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Yea, I even tried putting paper in there to make a tighter connection. I can't understand how the phone wouldn't recognize any of my SIMs that work perfectly in other phones, but works just fine with the US SIMs that the seller has. I think the seller is trying to scam me out of the return shipping.
Does anyone have the solution to this problem? I don't understand how the phone could work fine with US SIM cards, but not work at all with Canadian SIM cards (i.e. not even recognize that a SIM card is in the phone).
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Does anyone have the solution to this problem? I don't understand how the phone could work fine with US SIM cards, but not work at all with Canadian SIM cards (i.e. not even recognize that a SIM card is in the phone).
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So.... You are claiming a refund for the phone because it doesn't work with canadian sim when seller says it works for us based sim??? Did the seller say anything about it working with canadian sim????
My phone with s off works with att sim on 3g, or was it 2g.....
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I take it you are near the U.S. border, where about? If you're near me, we can meet up and see if it is consistent in all the myTouch 4Gs. Mine is rooted, unlocked, good screen and good eMMC. Should be the best scenario to double check.
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No need to. I've seen people call in after coming from another country and have used foreign SIM cards in the phone.
I take it you are near the U.S. border, where about? If you're near me, we can meet up and see if it is consistent in all the myTouch 4Gs. Mine is rooted, unlocked, good screen and good eMMC. Should be the best scenario to double check.
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I actually live in toronto, so would be unable to do that.
kalel33 said:
No need to. I've seen people call in after coming from another country and have used foreign SIM cards in the phone.
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This makes sense that foreign SIM cards would work, if the phone communicates through a standard GSM frequency it should work for all of them. When I had the phone I rooted it with s-OFF and I'm assuming that would unlock it even for foreign SIM cards. Anyone experienced with phones being locked to a particular country?
I want to buy another MT4G but I also want to make sure it will work in Canada first.
rooting your phone does not unlock your sim. call tmobile and tell them you would like to unlock your phone because you travel out of the US often.
I did that and after it was unlocked I was able to use my phone in Ireland with a pay as you go O2 sim card
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rooting your phone does not unlock your sim. call tmobile and tell them you would like to unlock your phone because you travel out of the US often.
I did that and after it was unlocked I was able to use my phone in Ireland with a pay as you go O2 sim card
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Sorry, I forgot to add that the seller claimed to have unlocked the phone with a code. I'm just wondering if the phone could still have been locked to US providers, and if so, why would the phone still not recognize any Canadian SIMs?
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Sorry, I forgot to add that the seller claimed to have unlocked the phone with a code. I'm just wondering if the phone could still have been locked to US providers, and if so, why would the phone still not recognize any Canadian SIMs?
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Im not sure. My phone has been unlocked for awhile but I believe that if your phone is not unlocked when you put a foreign sim card in and turn it on it will ask you for the unlock code.
When you turned your phone on with your Canadian sim card in it did it tell you that your phone did not have a sim card in it, or were you just unable to get service?
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Im not sure. My phone has been unlocked for awhile but I believe that if your phone is not unlocked when you put a foreign sim card in and turn it on it will ask you for the unlock code.
When you turned your phone on with your Canadian sim card in it did it tell you that your phone did not have a sim card in it, or were you just unable to get service?
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it said no SIM card.
just a simple question. how can i tell if my GS4 is SIM Unlocked? i dont have another SIM card from another carrier, and just wondering if there is a way to check it it is unlocked or not. thanks.
Take it to another gsm carrier's store. I took some phones to t-mobile and the guy gave me a blank sim that only made 911 calls. He said old people get those sims for free, so I held onto the sim to test unlocked devices.
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So I bought a N920W8 from Bell (Canada) and I didn't put a bell sim card in it when first powered on the device, but a Wind Mobile sim(Bell store people didn't touch the phone when bought). I was all ready with my unlock code I purchased and what do you know? IT WASN'T LOCKED TO BELL! It worked on Wind as if it was an unlocked phone. Then I had an idea to put a Bell sim card in and BAM! DEVICE IS SIM LOCKED. Seems that the phone locked itself to the first sim card's carrier it sees. This might be different for US/overseas models that are carrier specific, but here in Canada all our carrier use the N920W8...same firmware as far as I can tell. I can change CSC codes without problems too, however I did SIM unlock the phone before I tried that to avoid any soft bricking issues that might arise. Pass on the good news!
Weird that this happened. I traded my phone for a Note 5 a couple days ago, not expecting it to work with Wind at all (it was apparently unlocked, but I instantly figured an unlocked Bell phone would never work with Wind so theres no point in trying), well a couple days passed, and I said what rhe heck, so I popped my phone in, got the Neteork Locked Sim [enter unlock code], entered the unlock code, and about 10 mins later, it worked!
I was so happy that I didnt have to take the extra time to trade the note 5 for a wind compatible one.
I too have to N920W8 version (which is considered the n9208 here)
This is my first Samsung phone, ever.. Rooting it was... different, and the extreme lack of rom/kernel support is staggering. Any tips?
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Weird that this happened. I traded my phone for a Note 5 a couple days ago, not expecting it to work with Wind at all (it was apparently unlocked, but I instantly figured an unlocked Bell phone would never work with Wind so theres no point in trying), well a couple days passed, and I said what rhe heck, so I popped my phone in, got the Neteork Locked Sim [enter unlock code], entered the unlock code, and about 10 mins later, it worked!
I was so happy that I didnt have to take the extra time to trade the note 5 for a wind compatible one.
I too have to N920W8 version (which is considered the n9208 here)
This is my first Samsung phone, ever.. Rooting it was... different, and the extreme lack of rom/kernel support is staggering. Any tips?
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Well. First thing that comes to mind is that you've got some more reading to do. As most of your assumptions are just wrong.
But not to bust your chops, you have to know, every w8 Canadian model, regardless of provider, is essentially same phone. Difference being only in active csc loaded. Starting with this year, putting first sim in brand new phone determines your active csc. It is easily changed.
Where you might get some issues is for some providers options like VoLTE, you still need rogers/fido phone as they discriminate based on imei for those features, which means only phone sold by them.
More importantly, I have no clue how and why you would get that our w8 model would have anything to do with 9208 model (which is Asian dual sim)? It does not.
Our phone, is actually identical to tmobile 920t, with only one difference. The modem. Which for several generations has to be signed, and not interchangeable once set by samsung.
So if you need roms, kernels etc, look in tmobile thread, with Canadian specific install instructions.
Rooting samsung nowadays is the same procedure as nexus owners have with android 6+.
1.Custom recovery, root, custom kernel done.
2.In case of system less root, custom recovery, system less root package, done.
Lastly. Read Canadian thread in this section for some Canadian specific insights.
All the best.
Edit: And now you've got cf-autoroot since today. Easiest.
Note 5 ?
Alright, got a pretty wacky situation here. Trying to see if anyone has any ideas of how to fix this.
I bought an S10+ Verizon firmware from Swappa a few days ago. I intended to use it with T-Mobile. Good deal, good transaction, all good right? Wrong...
It was my understanding that most Verizon phones were unlocked and that I could just flash the Unlocked or T-Mobile firmware to get full T-Mobile functionality.
On receiving the phone I got a "This phone is locked, contact Verizon at etc etc" message. I shrugged and flashed it over to unlocked firmware, where I was met with an "Invalid SIM card. Network locked SIM card inserted." and "PIN to unlock SIM service provider" window. So the phone was locked. Here's my troubleshooting steps from there.
Contacted Verizon support online. They said they lock all their phones for 60 days now as of late July. I said I'd bought it used, they said it had been bought at Walmart recently and there was nothing they could do.
Contacted the seller. He gave me his proof of purchase that the phone was bought new from Samsung.com back in March. I used a site to check the IMEI and the phone was legit from March, and not reported stolen or sketchy at all. Samsung.com specifically says they don't lock their phones and it was well before the 60 day policy anyway.
Contacted Verizon support where they said the phone was purchased as a Verizon phone so it can't be used with other networks. I should sign up for Verizon to enjoy all the features of my phone ? ....and also have it activated on the network so it could be cleared and unlocked. Alright...
I took the phone to a Verizon store where they put an active Verizon SIM in it. Verizon SIM worked great, T-Mobile still had an unlock code. The employee was confused and said they've never entered an Unlock PIN before so he sent me to corporate Verizon support store they had nearby.
Corporate Verizon store was a ton more helpful and the guy called up their god-tier upper support guys. Those guys took over an hour fiddling with things and along the way determined that the phone and it's IMEI were all clear, not stolen, and unlocked. The previous owner had a clean account and was in good standing. The store guy said he'd never seen anything like this and in his four years he'd never entered a SIM pin before. They additionally made sure I hadn't accidentally encrypted my SIM with a pin (I hadn't) and that all the default Verizon 000000, 123456, and 111111 codes weren't going to work. They recommended I contact Samsung support.
Samsung support thought I was an idiot and said that all the phones sold on their storefront are locked and I should contact Verizon to get it unlocked. I tried explaining all of the above but it was like talking to a brick wall.
So what have I tried?
Flashed the phone from Verizon to Unlocked to T-Mobile to Unlocked firmware using Frija and patched Odin. Verizon firmware throws a "contact Verizon" message and sometimes a code window, unlocked gives me code window, and T-Mobile just says it's locked and doesn't give me anything.
I have tried Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile SIMs from my friends. T-Mobile and AT&T work for a couple minutes completely normally on reboot. Connection establishes, data, text, and calls come in. Then it locks up and doesn't work. Verizon SIM works entirely normally, but doesn't unlock phone even after being left in for an hour.
Going forward I am going to try
Ask the internet for help. I've googled the living daylights out of this problem and I can't find anyone in my situation. Help?
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Flash the phone back to Verizon firmware. Perhaps the unlock mechanism works somewhere in the firmware and only when it's connected to the Verizon network. Take it to the store, have them pop a Verizon SIM in for a bit, and hope for the best. Flashing from Unlocked to VZW firmware isn't working right now for some odd reason though. It's going back to TMB instead and I'm confused about that to.
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Figure out how to get non-incompetent support out of Verizon (though I've mostly gotten there already) or Samsung and see if someone can help me. When I had to unlock my T-Mobile S8 I bought from Samsung, the IMEI numbers weren't passed to T-Mobile so the regular support people said it was impossible. Eventually I got in contact with someone who broke me out of idiot-land and directly contacted a network engineer who solved the problem in less than 10 minutes. Maybe I can find a network engineer at Verizon?
I could use a sketchy SIM unlock website. Is there any not-sketchy ones?
There's an XDA thread for S10+ U & U1 updates by the mod ibowtoandroid. I believe he has an unlock service that's legit but apparently not cheap. If you read through that thread you might find information helpful for your situation. But if you post a question that was previously answered you will likely be told to read through the thread even though the person who tells you that could have actually answered your question in the same amount of time. It's not the friendliest thread but you might find your answer.
There is a lot of discussion about switching carrier firmware. Since your phone shows up as locked by Verizon even though it shouldn't be you might need to use a Verizon SIM for 48 hours before the phone will revert back to unlocked status--at the time your phone was originally purchased it was necessary to use a Verizon SIM on their branded phones for 48 hours before they could be switched to another carrier.
It's possible you got that message when you purchased your phone because the 48 hour clock started over for some reason but that's only a guess--the ibowtoandroid guy is far more knowledgeable since he actually has a business that unlocks phones.
Are you sure the person who you bought your phone from actually unlocked it before selling it to you? Even if the phone shows up as a device that should be unlocked the previous owner who had the Verizon service might have needed to call Verizon to verify the phone's unlock status before selling it.
Sometimes people accidentally relock these phones when flashing carrier firmware. It doesn't sound like you did that based on your description but if the previous owner flashed firmware to completely reset the phone instead of just performing a factory reset he might have accidentally relocked your phone on the software end.
based on wat ur saying the phone definitely seems to b carrier locked. I got an A50 from verizon and it does the same ecact thing..
theres services online you can use or some boxes have methods as well.. my tmo a10e for example was locked but chimera tool has a neat feature called carrier relock.. it essentially locks it to up to 64 carriers instead of actually unlocking the sim..
one thing i suggest tho is dont try to do it urself unless ur a seasoned expert lol.. i tried on a n976v and after a few harmless at commands it completely killed my imei and cert and mipi etc etc
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Alright, got a pretty wacky situation here. Trying to see if anyone has any ideas of how to fix this.
I bought an S10+ Verizon firmware from Swappa a few days ago. I intended to use it with T-Mobile. Good deal, good transaction, all good right? Wrong...
It was my understanding that most Verizon phones were unlocked and that I could just flash the Unlocked or T-Mobile firmware to get full T-Mobile functionality.
On receiving the phone I got a "This phone is locked, contact Verizon at etc etc" message. I shrugged and flashed it over to unlocked firmware, where I was met with an "Invalid SIM card. Network locked SIM card inserted." and "PIN to unlock SIM service provider" window. So the phone was locked. Here's my troubleshooting steps from there.
Contacted Verizon support online. They said they lock all their phones for 60 days now as of late July. I said I'd bought it used, they said it had been bought at Walmart recently and there was nothing they could do.
Contacted the seller. He gave me his proof of purchase that the phone was bought new from Samsung.com back in March. I used a site to check the IMEI and the phone was legit from March, and not reported stolen or sketchy at all. Samsung.com specifically says they don't lock their phones and it was well before the 60 day policy anyway.
Contacted Verizon support where they said the phone was purchased as a Verizon phone so it can't be used with other networks. I should sign up for Verizon to enjoy all the features of my phone ? ....and also have it activated on the network so it could be cleared and unlocked. Alright...
I took the phone to a Verizon store where they put an active Verizon SIM in it. Verizon SIM worked great, T-Mobile still had an unlock code. The employee was confused and said they've never entered an Unlock PIN before so he sent me to corporate Verizon support store they had nearby.
Corporate Verizon store was a ton more helpful and the guy called up their god-tier upper support guys. Those guys took over an hour fiddling with things and along the way determined that the phone and it's IMEI were all clear, not stolen, and unlocked. The previous owner had a clean account and was in good standing. The store guy said he'd never seen anything like this and in his four years he'd never entered a SIM pin before. They additionally made sure I hadn't accidentally encrypted my SIM with a pin (I hadn't) and that all the default Verizon 000000, 123456, and 111111 codes weren't going to work. They recommended I contact Samsung support.
Samsung support thought I was an idiot and said that all the phones sold on their storefront are locked and I should contact Verizon to get it unlocked. I tried explaining all of the above but it was like talking to a brick wall.
So what have I tried?
Flashed the phone from Verizon to Unlocked to T-Mobile to Unlocked firmware using Frija and patched Odin. Verizon firmware throws a "contact Verizon" message and sometimes a code window, unlocked gives me code window, and T-Mobile just says it's locked and doesn't give me anything.
I have tried Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile SIMs from my friends. T-Mobile and AT&T work for a couple minutes completely normally on reboot. Connection establishes, data, text, and calls come in. Then it locks up and doesn't work. Verizon SIM works entirely normally, but doesn't unlock phone even after being left in for an hour.
Going forward I am going to try
Ask the internet for help. I've googled the living daylights out of this problem and I can't find anyone in my situation. Help?
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Flash the phone back to Verizon firmware. Perhaps the unlock mechanism works somewhere in the firmware and only when it's connected to the Verizon network. Take it to the store, have them pop a Verizon SIM in for a bit, and hope for the best. Flashing from Unlocked to VZW firmware isn't working right now for some odd reason though. It's going back to TMB instead and I'm confused about that to.
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Figure out how to get non-incompetent support out of Verizon (though I've mostly gotten there already) or Samsung and see if someone can help me. When I had to unlock my T-Mobile S8 I bought from Samsung, the IMEI numbers weren't passed to T-Mobile so the regular support people said it was impossible. Eventually I got in contact with someone who broke me out of idiot-land and directly contacted a network engineer who solved the problem in less than 10 minutes. Maybe I can find a network engineer at Verizon?
I could use a sketchy SIM unlock website. Is there any not-sketchy ones?
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hi, did you manage to solve the problem? mine S10 also asks for an unlock code 5 minutes after turning it on.
wwwxxx1982 said:
hi, did you manage to solve the problem? mine S10 also asks for an unlock code 5 minutes after turning it on.
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Hello!
Yes I did solve the situation! Here's the steps that I used to unlock my Verizon Galaxy S10+
I had changed the firmware to unlocked firmware using Odin and Freya. This was premature.
Verizon does not do unlock codes. You need to have the Verizon firmware on the phone, a Verizon SIM card from a friend, access to the Verizon account, and like an hour of spare time.
Pop the Verizon SIM into your phone, you can get them from a friend, convince a Verizon store guy to help ya out, or just pay a few bucks for a prepaid plan. The phone has to be on the Verizon network for this to work.
Call up Verizon technical support. Tell them you've got a phone to unlock and have been working with their Tier 2 team to square things away. You have to be transferred to Tier 2.
Important to note that Verizon has instigated a 60 day locking policy to prevent theft and whatnot on their network. If the phone was purchased less than 60 days ago and activated on Verizon's network than you're outa luck. You got to wait. If you don't fall under this restriction, you should make sure the support people understand because they'll assume that's what's happening... a lot.
The Tier 2 people generally know what they're doing. They'll verify the device's IMEI and that it hasn't been stolen, is paid off, and that your Verizon account is in good standing. They'll need the PIN access code from the Verizon account holder or a two step verification with another one of their phones.
Once they run the unlock process you should get a text saying the phone is now unlocked. Leave the SIM in for another hour or two to allow the process to complete. I removed the SIM shortly after on the first try and it didn't work so I had to do it again.
After that the phone should be unlocked and you'll be able to flash whatever firmware you want and use it on whichever network. I've got mine running Unlocked firmware on T-Mobile, works great
If you don't have a Verizon S10+ that's locked to Verizon I dunno where to start. Contact the mod ibowtoandroid on here if you get really really stuck. He can get it unlocked but it will cost a ton. He's legit though.
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Hello!
Yes I did solve the situation! Here's the steps that I used to unlock my Verizon Galaxy S10+
I had changed the firmware to unlocked firmware using Odin and Freya. This was premature.
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thanks, but I upgraded the phone to another firmware with the code XAA and now I can’t get it back to Verezion
camwow13 said:
Hello!
Yes I did solve the situation! Here's the steps that I used to unlock my Verizon Galaxy S10+
I had changed the firmware to unlocked firmware using Odin and Freya. This was premature.
Verizon does not do unlock codes. You need to have the Verizon firmware on the phone, a Verizon SIM card from a friend, access to the Verizon account, and like an hour of spare time.
Pop the Verizon SIM into your phone, you can get them from a friend, convince a Verizon store guy to help ya out, or just pay a few bucks for a prepaid plan. The phone has to be on the Verizon network for this to work.
Call up Verizon technical support. Tell them you've got a phone to unlock and have been working with their Tier 2 team to square things away. You have to be transferred to Tier 2.
Important to note that Verizon has instigated a 60 day locking policy to prevent theft and whatnot on their network. If the phone was purchased less than 60 days ago and activated on Verizon's network than you're outa luck. You got to wait. If you don't fall under this restriction, you should make sure the support people understand because they'll assume that's what's happening... a lot.
The Tier 2 people generally know what they're doing. They'll verify the device's IMEI and that it hasn't been stolen, is paid off, and that your Verizon account is in good standing. They'll need the PIN access code from the Verizon account holder or a two step verification with another one of their phones.
Once they run the unlock process you should get a text saying the phone is now unlocked. Leave the SIM in for another hour or two to allow the process to complete. I removed the SIM shortly after on the first try and it didn't work so I had to do it again.
After that the phone should be unlocked and you'll be able to flash whatever firmware you want and use it on whichever network. I've got mine running Unlocked firmware on T-Mobile, works great
If you don't have a Verizon S10+ that's locked to Verizon I dunno where to start. Contact the mod ibowtoandroid on here if you get really really stuck. He can get it unlocked but it will cost a ton. He's legit though.
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That was very helpful Thanks. I am pretty sure that my phone has passed that 60 days time frame and the device has a clean IMEI as well but I am not in the US. Do I have to be on the Verizon network or just a Verizon sim will work as well?
Tarar said:
That was very helpful Thanks. I am pretty sure that my phone has passed that 60 days time frame and the device has a clean IMEI as well but I am not in the US. Do I have to be on the Verizon network or just a Verizon sim will work as well?
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Can someone please help?
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Can someone please help?
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if its locked its locked.. meet verizons requirements to have it unlock or pay for a service that can unlock it for you..
theres no easy way to unlock the device.. if there was then itd be posted on xda.. and if it was that easy thered b no point in carriers locking them to begin with
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Can someone please help?
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elliwigy said:
if its locked its locked.. meet verizons requirements to have it unlock or pay for a service that can unlock it for you..
theres no easy way to unlock the device.. if there was then itd be posted on xda.. and if it was that easy thered b no point in carriers locking them to begin with
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Its actually done through an android app modified by the carrier. The only way to get around it would be to have the carriers unique key as well as the private signing key so you could create your own version. Then you would need a way to modify the system image and successfully install it. After all that there's a good chance there's even more security server side. (Its Verizon, so you know...)
So yes, ultimately it isnt exactly possible.
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Its actually done through an android app modified by the carrier. The only way to get around it would be to have the carriers unique key as well as the private signing key so you could create your own version. Then you would need a way to modify the system image and successfully install it. After all that there's a good chance there's even more security server side. (Its Verizon, so you know...)
So yes, ultimately it isnt exactly possible.
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yep.. exactly y i said he needs to unlock via official means or pay for a service.. theres plenty services out there.. of course they most likely have access to servers and some tend to be fairly expensive lol.. outside of that hes sol im afraid.
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Verizon needs to unlock your phone if you don't want to pay a third-party service. I don't think you need to have a Verizon SIM inserted for them to unlock the phone as long as it meets the necessary requirements.
jhs39 said:
Verizon needs to unlock your phone if you don't want to pay a third-party service. I don't think you need to have a Verizon SIM inserted for them to unlock the phone as long as it meets the necessary requirements.
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I believe Verizon only unlocks automatically with a sim installed thats had service for 60 days(might be 30 now). I remember seeing someone say they put a friend's Verizon sim in and rebooted and it unlocked for him. I guess they dont verify IMEI to unlock just sim number.
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jhs39 said:
Verizon needs to unlock your phone if you don't want to pay a third-party service. I don't think you need to have a Verizon SIM inserted for them to unlock the phone as long as it meets the necessary requirements.
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I am outside the USA so no way to be on the Verizon network. I will however reinstall the original Verizon firmware and have some one call them for me. Let's see whether that works out or not. Thanks man.
Tarar said:
I am outside the USA so no way to be on the Verizon network. I will however reinstall the original Verizon firmware and have some one call them for me. Let's see whether that works out or not. Thanks man.
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Curious, how did you get a verizon device outside of the country?
To point out, this is the very reason Verizon changed their sim unlocking policy.. to help prevent fraud and theft as they would take vzw devices then sell them for profit to non vzw customers and theyd be unlocked..
Bcuz of this is why they implemented the device needing to be activated on the vzw network and a 60 day period before it will be unlocked.
I dont see them being able to manually override/bypass this as it is policy. That as well as most reps dont even kno the policy and will tell you its unlocked or "verizon doesnt lock devices" which is inaccurate lol
jwarrior319 said:
I believe Verizon only unlocks automatically with a sim installed thats had service for 60 days(might be 30 now). I remember seeing someone say they put a friend's Verizon sim in and rebooted and it unlocked for him. I guess they dont verify IMEI to unlock just sim number.
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Its not based on sim number lol..
elliwigy said:
Its not based on sim number lol..
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So any random Verizon sim thats active and has had service for 60 days or more will unlock it?
If thats the case someone could still make money off them by using there sim before selling it.
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jwarrior319 said:
So any random Verizon sim thats active and has had service for 60 days or more will unlock it?
If thats the case someone could still make money off them by using there sim before selling it.
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No.. i didnt say that lol.. its not tied to the sim card.. device needs to be active on verizon for 60 days.. i always use my same sim card that ive had for years now in my new devices.. i still had to wait 60 days for it to be sim unlocked..
U cant just pop an old sim in and have it unlock.. the device itself needs to be active 60 days..
When checking if a device is sim unlocked or not u dont put the sim number into the checker, u put the imei.. this is bcuz its tied to the imei/device.. not sim card itself..
What i dont know however is if you only need to activate it once on vzw network or if it needs to remain on vzw the full 60 days.. then again u cant use it on other networks until its unlocked anyways
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elliwigy said:
No.. i didnt say that lol.. its not tied to the sim card.. device needs to be active on verizon for 60 days.. i always use my same sim card that ive had for years now in my new devices.. i still had to wait 60 days for it to be sim unlocked..
U cant just pop an old sim in and have it unlock.. the device itself needs to be active 60 days..
When checking if a device is sim unlocked or not u dont put the sim number into the checker, u put the imei.. this is bcuz its tied to the imei/device.. not sim card itself..
What i dont know however is if you only need to activate it once on vzw network or if it needs to remain on vzw the full 60 days.. then again u cant use it on other networks until its unlocked anyways
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Where does it say that on the verizon site or fcc site? I see you just need to activate it with a valid verizon account then 60 days it's unlocked...
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elliwigy said:
No.. i didnt say that lol.. its not tied to the sim card.. device needs to be active on verizon for 60 days.. i always use my same sim card that ive had for years now in my new devices.. i still had to wait 60 days for it to be sim unlocked..
U cant just pop an old sim in and have it unlock.. the device itself needs to be active 60 days..
When checking if a device is sim unlocked or not u dont put the sim number into the checker, u put the imei.. this is bcuz its tied to the imei/device.. not sim card itself..
What i dont know however is if you only need to activate it once on vzw network or if it needs to remain on vzw the full 60 days.. then again u cant use it on other networks until its unlocked anyways
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Where does it say that on the verizon site or fcc site? I see you just need to activate it with a valid verizon account then 60 days it's unlocked...
Urbbs said:
Where does it say that on the verizon site or fcc site? I see you just need to activate it with a valid verizon account then 60 days it's unlocked...
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Where does it say that on the verizon site or fcc site? I see you just need to activate it with a valid verizon account then 60 days it's unlocked...
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That's exactly what I said lmao.. u need to activate it on vzw then wait 60 days and it will be unlocked..
A quick Google search you can easily find vzw unlock policy:
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy