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Hey Guys,
i was thinking about buying a new smartphone. Now that Samsung and HTC both have released their flagship device for 2013 I did some research and ended up with the Galaxy S3, the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S4 in mind. I'm having some trouble to make up my mind about these smartphones. I compared them considering their performance. (excluded the S4 with octacore tho) and found out that basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
I watched some video reviews as well and found out that these devices are pretty much equal in everyday performance. (opening apps and websites with maybe 1 second difference at most) The Nexus 4 stuck out a bit because unlike the S4 and S3 almost had no stuttering or dropped frames in the UI while even the S4 had a few.
So I'm not really sure whether the S4 is worth it for me, as I'm probably not gonna make frequent use of all the gimmicks and stuff. The 16 GB Nexus 4 is even a bit more expensive than the S3 now and the timely updates for the N4 are no dealbreaker for me as i will flash custom roms on the S3 anyway. The Nexus 4 however has no replacable battery and no sdcard slot.
Please correct me on these statements if they are flawed or simply incorrect.
Also I heard about the Snapdragon 800 and Nvidia Tegra 4 (maybe even the Exynos Dualcore of the Nexus 10 which is supposed to be released as Quadcore soon?) which are basically the next big thing when it comes to processors. I thought the S4 would make a HUGE jump (and the octacore version actually does) but it didn't. Now I wonder whether i should wait for the next generation of processors/smartphones. (I don't want to wait longer than Q4 2013)
I would appreciate your help a lot!
schnip said:
Hey Guys,
i was thinking about buying a new smartphone. Now that Samsung and HTC both have released their flagship device for 2013 I did some research and ended up with the Galaxy S3, the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S4 in mind. I'm having some trouble to make up my mind about these smartphones. I compared them considering their performance. (excluded the S4 with octacore tho) and found out that basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
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A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here
Joe0Bloggs said:
A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here
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thank you for cluttering the thread and posting bull****
Why are you disregarding s4's superior screen and resolution?
schnip said:
So I'm not really sure whether the S4 is worth it for me, as I'm probably not gonna make frequent use of all the gimmicks and stuff. The 16 GB Nexus 4 is even a bit more expensive than the S3 now and the timely updates for the N4 are no dealbreaker for me as i will flash custom roms on the S3 anyway. The Nexus 4 however has no replacable battery and no sdcard slot.
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Maybe you should wait for the "S4 Nexus" that will be released June 26th (if you live in the US, of course). It will aggregate the best in hardware and software and will come with an unlocked bootloader.
Between the N4 and the S3, if you're gonna flash a custom rom, get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos). It has a removable battery and sd card slot which always helps.
Regarding the processors you've mentioned (Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4), it doesn't matter much if the software is not optimized. Just look at TouchWiz, even with a brutal processor there are lags and stutters. IMO processors are powerful enough nowadays to provide a smooth experience in the UI and with games, but the software is not optimized and good enough to use all those cores wisely. OEMs further 'helps', clogging the system with bloatware.
pedrohz said:
Maybe you should wait for the "S4 Nexus" that will be released June 26th (if you live in the US, of course). It will aggregate the best in hardware and software and will come with an unlocked bootloader.
Between the N4 and the S3, if you're gonna flash a custom rom, get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos). It has a removable battery and sd card slot which always helps.
Regarding the processors you've mentioned (Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4), it doesn't matter much if the software is not optimized. Just look at TouchWiz, even with a brutal processor there are lags and stutters. IMO processors are powerful enough nowadays to provide a smooth experience in the UI and with games, but the software is not optimized and good enough to use all those cores wisely. OEMs further 'helps', clogging the system with bloatware.
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Thank you for the informative post
i have made similar experiences when comparing android to ios. the hardware is actually brutal but its not enough to compensate for the rather unoptimized software. unfortunately i do not live in the US and even if I did it wouldnt make much of a difference to me as i could flash custom vanilla android on the S4 anyhow.
schnip said:
i have made similar experiences when comparing android to ios. the hardware is actually brutal but its not enough to compensate for the rather unoptimized software. unfortunately i do not live in the US and even if I did it wouldnt make much of a difference to me as i could flash custom vanilla android on the S4 anyhow.
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I understand. Just be sure to get the S4 model with Snapdragon 600, as the 'S4 Nexus' will use it instead of the Exynos octa (no LTE). Then once its stock rom is released by fellow devs you can flash without issues
CorruptedSanity said:
Why are you disregarding s4's superior screen and resolution?
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actually i dont disregard it. for me the screen is one of the few improvements that really have a noticeable effect on everyday performance. unfortunately it comes at a great cost when comparing 300€(S3) to 600€(S4). I think the S3 is far more worth than only 1/2 of an S4
pedrohz said:
I understand. Just be sure to get the S4 model with Snapdragon 600, as the 'S4 Nexus' will use it instead of the Exynos octa (no LTE). Then once its stock rom is released by fellow devs you can flash without issues
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Ok thanks for the advice!
Edit: " get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos)"
As far as my research goes:
The exynos is the quadcore version whereas the snapdragon version of the S3 is dual core.
The quadcore version usually does not have 2GB ram but i found some spec sheets that had Quadcore + 2GB RAM (LTE version)
Id say better have quadcore instead of dualcore and 2GB ram right?
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Unfortunately i cant get the 2GB version with dualcore in Germany.
I can order
Exynos Quad 2GB RAM LTE and
Exynos Quad 1GB RAM no-LTE
I dont really need LTE but is the 1 GB of extra RAM worth the 50€? (apprx 65$)
schnip said:
basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
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schnip said:
Please correct me on these statements if they are flawed or simply incorrect.
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Joe0Bloggs said:
A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here
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schnip said:
thank you for cluttering the thread and posting bull****
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You asked to be corrected on your statements in the OP and that's what I did. Either you misued the comparison symbols or you thought both the S3 and N4 do benchmarks better than the S4.
I did what you asked people to do and an insult is what I get in return?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater-than_sign
i have a S4 now and i want to upgrade to s5 but i am afraid of RAM capacity.
even if they both have 2GB S5 has much less free ram on a fresh start (arround 400mb)(while s4 has arround 1100mb).
I had the same problem when upgrading from s2 to s3. Multitasking was horrible, everytime i wanted to reopen an app it would reload everything and not take me back where i left. even Facebook messenger heads would close because of low ram.
My question: is 2GB or RAM enough for you? do you use a lot of apps at the same time?
Does any s4 user feel a different when upgrading to s5?
thank you in advance
I am considering buying a Galaxy A8 to replace my ageing Galaxy Grand Duos. I like the design and price of the A8, and the fact that it is dual sim, and can live with the specs. Are there any developers out there that plan to develop for the A8? I'd be interested, eventually, in CM ports, and othr custom roms (based on Samsung, AOSP or CM).
rikponne said:
I am considering buying a Galaxy A8 to replace my ageing Galaxy Grand Duos. I like the design and price of the A8, and the fact that it is dual sim, and can live with the specs. Are there any developers out there that plan to develop for the A8? I'd be interested, eventually, in CM ports, and othr custom roms (based on Samsung, AOSP or CM).
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If you will be using the fingerprint scanner a lot then I would suggest to stay away, as I have been having problems with it. The A8 keeps on deleting my fingerprint samples that it has stored and then I have to use the password to unlock and start over with the fingerprint thingy....other then that its a great mobile.
Go for an s6 instead of this Richard✌
tahmid_shahriar said:
Go for an s6 instead of this Richard
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In my market the Samsung A8 is available for USD $370, only ~$61 less than the S6 (USD $431). A side-by-side spec comparison shows the S6 outclassing the A8 in most regards (as expected). However, the A8 beats the S6 in two areas:
Battery: the A8 has a 3050 mAh battery vs a 2550 mAh battery in the S6.
Expandable storage: the dual SIM version of the A8 supports micro SD storage.
I hesitant to buy the S6 mostly because of the poor battery life that many people have reported. (I realize that some people are able to achieve decent SoT, but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule?)
There are not many reviews for the A8, but GSM Arena reported that the A8 had great battery life in their tests, significantly better than the S6:
A8: 98h "endurance rating", 25:02h 3G talk time; 12:18h web browsing; 12:45h video playback
SG: 73h "endurance rating", 19:48h 3G talk time; 10:56h web browsing; 12:12h video playback
Android Authority also gave the A8 a favorable review and also noted the great battery life. Which leads to my questions:
Are the S6 battery woes overblown?
Would you be willing to trade slightly lesser specs for much improved battery life (and micro SD)?
As you wish go for an A8 but remember that s6 is the flagship of 2015 and A8 is midrange?
tahmid_shahriar said:
As you wish go for an A8 but remember that s6 is the flagship of 2015 and A8 is midrange?
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hi friends,
i am using A8 since a month now. i didn't have any issue with the finger print access. its utter smooth. very prompt. there were few updates lately and accordingly has increased its performance.
its also good for gaming where i play Asphalt 8 and NFS. both are smooth without any hickups for now.
i would definitely recommend A8 for the mid-range puchase and high usage. battery without charge is usable for the whole day with the above mentioned games played for atleast an hour a day.
thanks.
Bhupen Gaitonde said:
hi friends,
i am using A8 since a month now. i didn't have any issue with the finger print access. its utter smooth. very prompt. there were few updates lately and accordingly has increased its performance.
its also good for gaming where i play Asphalt 8 and NFS. both are smooth without any hickups for now.
i would definitely recommend A8 for the mid-range puchase and high usage. battery without charge is usable for the whole day with the above mentioned games played for atleast an hour a day.
thanks.
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Man do anything with your Richard i don't care...!! But atleast read the whole post first? He is talking about CM and custom roms? And flagships gets them before mid-range. That's why i suggested S6?
What's wrong with u. He just asked abt A8. I am happy with it. I never said S6 is bad. There is no root available for A8.
Pls read the discussions above before posting.
Thanks.
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Bhupen_Gaitonde said:
What's wrong with u. He just asked abt A8. I am happy with it. I never said S6 is bad. There is no root available for A8.
Pls read the discussions above before posting.
Thanks.
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Then why did you replied me?
whats app group for a8
Guys i m making a whats app group for a8 users
Those who r intrested whats app me at +919971433862
Bought Samsung Galaxy A8 (SM-A800F) today! My diwali delight
bubblydevil said:
If you will be using the fingerprint scanner a lot then I would suggest to stay away, as I have been having problems with it. The A8 keeps on deleting my fingerprint samples that it has stored and then I have to use the password to unlock and start over with the fingerprint thingy....other then that its a great mobile.
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Buddy i m using my Galaxy A8 (SM-A800F) Exynos, and tested fingerprint lock/unlock function and it works flawlessly for me. No problems here. i m really very happy with my brand new A8
http://choimobile.vn/threads/a800f-spacex-kernel-v0-1-auto-root-busybox-android-5-1-1.60311/
Here is the root. If anyone interested. No Custom Recovery Yet.
s6 is better than a8 ?
etm001 said:
In my market the Samsung A8 is available for USD $370, only ~$61 less than the S6 (USD $431). A side-by-side spec comparison shows the S6 outclassing the A8 in most regards (as expected). However, the A8 beats the S6 in two areas:
Battery: the A8 has a 3050 mAh battery vs a 2550 mAh battery in the S6.
Expandable storage: the dual SIM version of the A8 supports micro SD storage.
I hesitant to buy the S6 mostly because of the poor battery life that many people have reported. (I realize that some people are able to achieve decent SoT, but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule?)
There are not many reviews for the A8, but GSM Arena reported that the A8 had great battery life in their tests, significantly better than the S6:
A8: 98h "endurance rating", 25:02h 3G talk time; 12:18h web browsing; 12:45h video playback
SG: 73h "endurance rating", 19:48h 3G talk time; 10:56h web browsing; 12:12h video playback
Android Authority also gave the A8 a favorable review and also noted the great battery life. Which leads to my questions:
Are the S6 battery woes overblown?
Would you be willing to trade slightly lesser specs for much improved battery life (and micro SD)?
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buddy go for the A8, it has a lot if support already and the finger print sensir hasnt given me anytrouble, if you really want something, its all there, the processor is fast enough, and the batter gives me about 6 hrs sot.
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tahmid_shahriar said:
As you wish go for an A8 but remember that s6 is the flagship of 2015 and A8 is midrange��
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It's not really a mid range, the A series is just below the Flagships.
I have just got an A8. Its smooth, sleek and has good battery life. No problems with the fingerprimt scanner at all. The only thing I don't like is the lack of dev support for this phone. Only custom rom Ive seen is a cm13 rom that is still in alpha. So if you want a good samsung phone with lots of dev support I'd recommend the s6, or even the s5 if you have a small budget. S5 even has an official version of cm13 for it
i came here while searching solution for my locked galaxy A8. Afrer upgradation few apps like applock and truecaller are not working well. even after reinstalling them and now i can't erase the upgraded version.
can somebdy help me in this?
Hello!
Lately I am very unhappy with the performance of my S8 and today I was bored and did a bit of a speed test between the S8 exynos and my backup device, the good old HTC M8.
When opening apps,the S8 was a bit faster,but when it came to ram management the M8 with 2gb less RAM managed to keep all the apps in the background and remain smooth while the s8 had to reload 6 of the 9 apps and the phone was clearly stuttering.
Someone else experiencing this issue?
I have a Fire 10 HD tablet I bought last year on Black Friday fot $99 US while I was in the US. I rooted it and run it like a normal android tablet. But it's very laggy and I'm a bit tired of it because of that.
I'm checking out the Black Friday deals here in Canada right now and I'm looking at the A 10.1 (2016) (SM-T580) and the A 10.5 (2018) (SM-T590).
The 2016 one is priced at $250 CAN right now and the 2018 one at $330 CAN ($100 off regular price).
Specs look quite similar save for a few difference so I'm wondering if the additional GB of ram (3GB vs 2GB) of the 2018 version and the 32 GB vs 16GB is worthy of the $80 price difference. I feel 16GB is really low by 2018 standards...
Also the USB-C is a plus compared to the older micro-USB.
The 2018 has 2 speakers on each side too, compared to 2 on just one side for the 2016.
The absence of the physical button can also be a plus for me.
I know the 2016 can be rooted and I assume the 2018 will be too at some point?
The 2018 should get Pie I assume too, while not for the 2016, knowing how Samsung works usually...
What do you guys think?
Thanks.
metaleloi666 said:
I have a Fire 10 HD tablet I bought last year on Black Friday fot $99 US while I was in the US. I rooted it and run it like a normal android tablet. But it's very laggy and I'm a bit tired of it because of that.
I'm checking out the Black Friday deals here in Canada right now and I'm looking at the A 10.1 (2016) (SM-T580) and the A 10.5 (2018) (SM-T590).
The 2016 one is priced at $250 CAN right now and the 2018 one at $330 CAN ($100 off regular price).
Specs look quite similar save for a few difference so I'm wondering if the additional GB of ram (3GB vs 2GB) of the 2018 version and the 32 GB vs 16GB is worthy of the $80 price difference. I feel 16GB is really low by 2018 standards...
Also the USB-C is a plus compared to the older micro-USB.
The 2018 has 2 speakers on each side too, compared to 2 on just one side for the 2016.
The absence of the physical button can also be a plus for me.
I know the 2016 can be rooted and I assume the 2018 will be too at some point?
The 2018 should get Pie I assume too, while not for the 2016, knowing how Samsung works usually...
What do you guys think?
Thanks.
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16 Gb storage is very limited
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Badger51 said:
16 Gb storage is very limited
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I agree...
Ever hear of 128/256GB microsd? Makes 16GB plenty to hold apps when everything else is on extsd!
mordantly said:
Ever hear of 128/256GB microsd? Makes 16GB plenty to hold apps when everything else is on extsd!
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What do you think?? Of course I know about microSD! But I don't think a tablet that is almost full in its internal memory runs as smooth as one with plenty of space...
Touche.. not like the nand chips add but $5 per unit.
metaleloi666 said:
What do you think?? Of course I know about microSD! But I don't think a tablet that is almost full in its internal memory runs as smooth as one with plenty of space...
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It depends on what you are running. The only way you run low on internal memory on the 2016 is if you are running extreme usage games. And you certainly weren't doing that on your Fire. I've never come close to having a memory problems on mine even while streaming Nascar virtual reality Raceview and casting it to a 40" monitor. BTW, you can buy a 2016 used but in good condition on eBay for about $140.
edit: As far as Pie goes, you may never get it from Samsung on the 2016, but I'm running it right now on mine using Liniage 16.
I saw the s pen 10.1 2016 on amazon yesterday $209 shipped! Bought mine 5 weeks ago $279 shipped.
mordantly said:
Ever hear of 128/256GB microsd? Makes 16GB plenty to hold apps when everything else is on extsd!
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16gb is not enough samsung bloatware will eat a good chunk of that. 32gb gives headroom.
My concern is the 2016 model may actually have more cpu grunt than the 2018.
the 2016 had a leftover premier chip from the tab pro i think and the 2018 has a snapdragon 400 series.
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Any way
I reckon the 2018 is better for a few reasons.
-The quad speakers sound great.
-The buttons are now software not those annoying touch buttons ive hit while in landscape mode.
-The UI seems very smooth had a jam on a kiosk model and went nuts in chrome internet browsing is flawless, for now.
-It also cliams great battery life and snapdragon 400 chip do deliver very well in this aspect.
-More ram and storage gives a bit of future proofing too.
I am buying a 2018 model.
Dont know when but i will unless something amazing appears in its price range but then I doubt it the tablet market seems to be dead when it could amazing.
williamsjp said:
16gb is not enough samsung bloatware will eat a good chunk of that. 32gb gives headroom.
My concern is the 2016 model may actually have more cpu grunt than the 2018.
the 2016 had a leftover premier chip from the tab pro i think and the 2018 has a snapdragon 400 series.
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Any way
I reckon the 2018 is better for a few reasons.
-The quad speakers sound great.
-The buttons are now software not those annoying touch buttons ive hit while in landscape mode.
-The UI seems very smooth had a jam on a kiosk model and went nuts in chrome internet browsing is flawless, for now.
-It also cliams great battery life and snapdragon 400 chip do deliver very well in this aspect.
-More ram and storage gives a bit of future proofing too.
I am buying a 2018 model.
Dont know when but i will unless something amazing appears in its price range but then I doubt it the tablet market seems to be dead when it could amazing.
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UI is the same on both, as 2016 has 8.1, if you get S Pen model you have 3GB RAM and 32GB storage. Onscreen buttons suck as to unlock tablet you have to reach that stupid spot on the side which is really inconvenient, also CPU is less powerful I believe on the newer model. I think 2016 is better than 18. I wanted one but I ended up staying with 2016, I only miss USB C but other than that it's still really capable multimedia device
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I don't allow the bloat crap on my S3, S5, or tab 10.1 2016. So I only have 1500MB roms. Battery life on my tab being only 6 weeks old is charge once per week. Yes the capacitive buttons get bumped all the time.. working on systemless xposed to solve that. However, Sammy didn't put backlights in them nor a led up top so in low light the locations are tricky and screen off charging or dying doesn't tell me squat. Haven't figured out charge time yet. S pen does use a smidge more battery but I only bought the SM-P580 to get s pen.
Minto107 said:
UI is the same on both, as 2016 has 8.1, if you get S Pen model you have 3GB RAM and 32GB storage. Onscreen buttons suck as to unlock tablet you have to reach that stupid spot on the side which is really inconvenient, also CPU is less powerful I believe on the newer model. I think 2016 is better than 18. I wanted one but I ended up staying with 2016, I only miss USB C but other than that it's still really capable multimedia device
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I finally bought the 2018 yesterday.
Onscreen controls (physical button sucks IMO) , quad speakers, USB-C, the fact the tablet comes with Oreo (which means it should also get Pie next year), the 3GB of ram and 32 GB of rom were the main reasons.
Better GPU and better processor too.
So far, I enjoy it!
BTW, you can tap twice on the screen to wake up the tablet, no need to reach for the side button...
metaleloi666 said:
I finally bought the 2018 yesterday.
Onscreen controls (physical button sucksIMO) , quad speakers, USB-C, the fact the tablet comes with Oreo (which means it should also get Pie next year), the 3GB of ram and 32 GB of rom were the main reasons.
Better GPU and better processor too.
So far, I enjoy it!
BTW, you can tap twice on the screen to wake up the tablet, no need to reach for the side button...
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Aw come on!! You were just looking for an excuse to spend more money on the L&G all along.
TWRP for Tab A 10.5
I also recently purchased the Tab A 10.5 inch tablet to replace a Tab 4 10.1 tablet that was getting very laggy. I would like to install TWRP custom recovery on the new tablet ( in preparation for rooting with SuperSU) but I have searched the web in vain for the correct version of TWRP to install. Any help in this regard would be appreciated.
dhalfpenny said:
I also recently purchased the Tab A 10.5 inch tablet to replace a Tab 4 10.1 tablet that was getting very laggy. I would like to install TWRP custom recovery on the new tablet ( in preparation for rooting with SuperSU) but I have searched the web in vain for the correct version of TWRP to install. Any help in this regard would be appreciated.
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how different is it from the Tab A 8"? (SMT380)
I am going to redo the tab a (t380) guide in a couple days, we worked out the 7 day OEM unlock and how to disable that already, was the last piece of the puzzle i needed really to write a definitive guide on how to root it, reenable OEM unlock afterwards and reboot the device in the same day, and if things go wrong, reroot the very same day again as well (rather than waiting).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga.../twrp-3-2-1-1-tab-sm-t380-10-02-2018-t3747564 << Tab a 8" a similar beast, should be very similar.
might want to forget SuperSU and consider Magisk (also made by John Wu), SuperSU is no longer maintained and Magisk is.
rooting the tab A used to be a 14 day process from start to 7 days later to root and 7 days after to reboot again.. until yesterday anyways.. it can be done at whim now, all in one day multiple times if you wish.
My Tab A is an SM-T590 if this is any help.
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My Tab A is an SM-T590 if this is any help.
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ahhh, oreo..
i know nothing about oreo myself.
everyone i talk to that has it and has tried rooting it is unhappy..
it's a good time to wait and watch.
mordantly said:
Ever hear of 128/256GB microsd? Makes 16GB plenty to hold apps when everything else is on extsd!
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I owned a tablet with 16GB storage, and even after installing the least amount of apps I need and after disabling Samsung bloatware, I was left only with less than 3GB of free space. That's terrible. For one, if you have less than 15-20% of storage free, your filesystem operations are far far from being efficient. That's because the OS now needs to spend a considerable amount of time on finding more chunks of free space to write on. The second issue is what if you DO install an app or game that takes a lot more storage? One day I pulled a game that took something like 2GB of storage. I almost run out of free space.
The point is, 16GB is NOT enough. It's NOT ENOUGH unless you're willing to spend hours of your time wondering what can you possibly delete to make tablet run. Life is too short for that. I would not recommend anyone get a phone or a tablet with only 16GB of storage. 32GB should be the new "low".
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also CPU is less powerful I believe on the newer model. I think 2016 is better than 18.
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Let's clear some air about CPUs. The 2016 Tab A 10.1 came with Samsung Exynos 7870 system on a chip, which was built on 14nm process and had eight ARM A53 cores running at speeds up to 1.6GHz. The 2018 Tab A 10.5 comes with Snapdragon 450 SoC that comes with eight A53 cores (again!) built on 14nm process (again!) and running up 1.8GHz clock frequency. So there should be barely no difference in real life CPU performance between 2016 and 2018 models (why? this is stupid)
The A53 core is basically 2013-2014 design that started to appear in 2015 devices. The A53 core was truly mediocre in 2015 because the SoCs were build on 28nm process and were barely adequate. In 2016, some SoCs appeared that used more energy efficient 14nm process which allowed A53 cores to run at higher clock speeds while saving battery life. This was interesting. This remained interesting in 2017 too. But to introduce a new tablet in the late part of 2018 using the 2014-15 model A53 CPU.. and knowing that this tablet will not be updated for at least a couple more years, as we have seen with previous Tab A models, is truly pathetic.
In the US, the 2018 Tab A is list price of 320USD, which is basically the price of 2018 Apple iPad which has a CPU that will slaughter that Tab A and will be updated for 5-6 years, as we have observed in the past. Considering that Samsung is giving us a 2015-model CPU in this tablet, it has no right to be priced at 300+ bucks. The new Tab A only has the right to be priced as a bottom of barrel tablet like Amazon Fire, 150 dollars, or 200 tops. The 300+ price for this is ludicrous.
And let me guess, this tablet will not play Netflix in HD resolution. Right?
You need to remove not disable it. My roms.... G900P is 2GB RAM 1.5GB ROM. Leaves me 12.5GB. My P580 is 3GB RAM 1.2GB ROM. Leaves me 12.8GB. /system is only 3GB on BOTH Samsungs. No way you have 13GB total out of the box. Stop *****ing and put a $35 class uhs1 125GB sdcard in it!
I just got the Tab A 2016 LTE yesterday (SM-T585, running Nougat with July security patches) and had it rooted, TWRP put on it and running a custom Oreo rom in less than 24 hours :laugh:
It has 32 GB internal storage so that should last me a while ... I'm super happy with it, esp. considering that I only paid €125 incl. shipping for it - like new, it was part of a contract and returned to my provider because the customer didn't like the color or some other silly reason.
My old Lenovo Tablet was running on 4.2.2 with absolutely 0 updates in the 4-5 years that I had it and only had a quadcore with 16 GB internal storage and 1 GB ram. Not to mention that it didn't have ANY custom roms, TWRP etc.
OK, I'm rambling - my point is that you can still get the 2016 model if you look around for a good deal. It's a great tablet, easy to root + mod and a good deal cheaper than the 2018 model :good: