Can I root/unlock this device, without losing the warranty? - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

As soon I received the device (athene_f)(XT1643), I went on to unlock the bootloader, which requires to enter some code generated from the bootloader, into the Motorola website, to generate the unlock code.
But, while doing this, after entering the device's, bootloader generated code into the website, the website said - "if your device is not a developer edition then unlocking the bootloader, would void the warranty of the device".
So, here I'm not sure whether this device is a developer edition or not, and I'm confused as to, I unlock the device without losing the warranty or not?
Some notes - there's an option in the "Developer Options", in the settings, to allow the bootloader be unlocked (if that helps in determining whether, it's a developer edition and can be unlocked without losing the warranty).
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Motorola clearly states that once you request the unlock code your warranty is void whether you proceed to unlock it or not. If you dont know whether it's a developer edition or not then it probably isn't. That option in settings has nothing to do with it being a developers edition.

Okay, thank you.

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How to download Android 4.4.x CM 1.x moto g4 plus (xt1640)
Android 6.0.1 to 4.4 help i'm version Android 4.4 <3
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moto g4 plus comes with stock marshmallow,i dont think there is a way to got kitkat

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Motorola Unlock BootLoader

Is it possible to unlock flipout from this website ? https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
Also is there any custom rom for it ?
No, the Unlock My Device program at the moment supports only one new device, the Photon Q 4G LTE.
I really hope that the masterminds at Motorola will soon add many more devices, especially older ones like the Flipout. Many of these devices are out of warranty by now anyway.
As for custom ROMs, there are none. Unfortunately the Flipout was not very popular with the modders. However, with an unlocked bootloader this could change.
So... how does one 'SIM unlock' this phone?
Do I understand right, that it needs to be rooted first?
Do I need to also CID unlock it, or is that only needed for flashing a custom ROM?
DylanKeyne said:
So... how does one 'SIM unlock' this phone?
Do I understand right, that it needs to be rooted first?
Do I need to also CID unlock it, or is that only needed for flashing a custom ROM?
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Only way for BF/Charm is by code, does not require root. Check ebay: search for "unlock mb511" or "unlock mb502" - fairly cheap these days,
Actually, bootloader unlock and carrier/sim unlock are two different things, so we're rather off-topic here.
I'm sure Moto has no interest in unlocking bootloaders of phones they've already sold, so in response to the OP I should say, "No; absolutely not; not ever."

Looking to buy Moto X, need some clarifications.

[Tried posting this in Q&A forum but received no answers]
I am coming from Droid Incredible running CM 7.1 on PagePlus for 3 years (Verizon MVNO for those who don't know). So I am familiar with Android ecosystem and rooting.
I am looking to buy Moto X to be used in USA on H2O (AT&T MVNO) because on Pageplus the speed are limited to 3G and most new phones cannot be activated without flashing which I don't want to do.
1) Is there any reason NOT to buy Developer Edition (GSM Networks)? Current price is now the same as AT&T branded version and I am OK with just one color being available.
2) Am I correct in understanding that this version of the phone supports all LTE and HSPA frequencies both for AT&T and TMobile? Quote from the spec:
Networks
GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - 4G LTE
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS bands
850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
4G LTE bands
700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
3) Are there any known issues with Moto X that has not been fixed with software updates yet? I am also considering Moto G which would be good enough for me but it has battery issues ("instant" drops from full charge to 1%) that are now investigated by Motorola but no solution yet. For Moto X so far I only found that some people have small cracks on their cases that are fixed by mailing it for warranty work.
1) I too considered the GSM Dev Edition of the Moto X but decided not to get it based on looks. I don't like white phones. The Dev Moto X has a woven white back and I didn't like that. I also have not use for 32GB of internal storage. I didn't even fill the 8GB that was on my RAZR M (previous phone). This was my reasoning, so I went with the MotoMaker GSM unlocked retail Moto X (also referred to as the T-Mobile version).
2)I don't know about the Dev version but if I had to guess I'd say it's like my phone, so yes. I have an AT&T SIM in my Moto X and I get 4G LTE when I'm in town.
3)The only issues I know of are the cracks as you mentioned and the some of the wood backs having a poor finish applied. There may be another that I've yet to read here but I've not had any problem with the phone.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
1) I too considered the GSM Dev Edition of the Moto X but decided not to get it based on looks. I don't like white phones. The Dev Moto X has a woven white back and I didn't like that. I also have not use for 32GB of internal storage. I didn't even fill the 8GB that was on my RAZR M (previous phone). This was my reasoning, so I went with the MotoMaker GSM unlocked retail Moto X (also referred to as the T-Mobile version).
2)I don't know about the Dev version but if I had to guess I'd say it's like my phone, so yes. I have an AT&T SIM in my Moto X and I get 4G LTE when I'm in town.
3)The only issues I know of are the cracks as you mentioned and the some of the wood backs having a poor finish applied. There may be another that I've yet to read here but I've not had any problem with the phone.
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I don't like white phones either but I want to be able to root. Is what you went with (MotoMaker GSM unlocked retail Moto X) essentially the same as Dev Edition other than color? Or is it only carrier unlocked but not bootloader unlocked?
JoeSchmoe007 said:
I don't like white phones either but I want to be able to root. Is what you went with (MotoMaker GSM unlocked retail Moto X) essentially the same as Dev Edition other than color? Or is it only carrier unlocked but not bootloader unlocked?
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The main differences between the two would be the retail version can be customs made in MotoMaker and when the bootloader is unlocked you loose your warranty. The Dev version only comes in one style but your warranty will still be intact after unlocking the bootloader.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
The main differences between the two would be the retail version can be customs made in MotoMaker and when the bootloader is unlocked you loose your warranty. The Dev version only comes in one style but your warranty will still be intact after unlocking the bootloader.
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Thank you for responding. So the warranty will be void completely, even for the hardware issues completely unrelated to unlocking bootloader?
Can bootloader on retail version be re-locked to send it in for warranty?
I think I read that each time OS updates are released for Moto X new exploit may need to be found to root/unlock bootloader. Did I get it right or am I confusing something?
Can root be achieved without unlocking bootloader? If I understand correctly unlocking bootloader is really only needed if one wants to try different ROM-s and root can sometimes be achieved without unlocking bootloader. But Moto X is almost stock Android, so I see no point in trying other ROM-s but I do want to have root.
JoeSchmoe007 said:
Thank you for responding. So the warranty will be void completely, even for the hardware issues completely unrelated to unlocking bootloader?
Can bootloader on retail version be re-locked to send it in for warranty?
I think I read that each time OS updates are released for Moto X new exploit may need to be found to root/unlock bootloader. Did I get it right or am I confusing something?
Can root be achieved without unlocking bootloader? If I understand correctly unlocking bootloader is really only needed if one wants to try different ROM-s and root can sometimes be achieved without unlocking bootloader. But Moto X is almost stock Android, so I see no point in trying other ROM-s but I do want to have root.
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Yes, your warranty will be completly void if you unlock the bootloader on any Moto X except the Dev version.
You can relock (and reunlock) the bootloader but because you have to get the unlock key from Motorola, they will know even if you relock it. I believe there is also a line in fastboot that will will indicate if the warrently is void (as a result of the first unlock).
This is true. With any update there is the potential for an exploit being 'removed'. The same is true for most bootloaders but not necessarily for this phone. Even if the bootloader is updated, the unlock code for your phone will still work.
Yes, root can be achieved without unlocking the bootloader but it's a complex method for this phone. It's much easier to unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and flash the SU binary. This is also the preferred method if it's avalible for your Moto X.
Unlocking your bootloader let's you do a few things. The most common it to flash another recovery image and thus a new ROM. You can also flash kernals, binaries, apps, and a few other things with the bootloader unlocked.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
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This is true. With any update there is the potential for an exploit being 'removed'. The same is true for most bootloaders but not necessarily for this phone. Even if the bootloader is updated, the unlock code for your phone will still work.
Yes, root can be achieved without unlocking the bootloader but it's a complex method for this phone. It's much easier to unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, and flash the SU binary. This is also the preferred method if it's avalible for your Moto X.
Unlocking your bootloader let's you do a few things. The most common it to flash another recovery image and thus a new ROM. You can also flash kernals, binaries, apps, and a few other things with the bootloader unlocked.
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So what specific exploit can be removed? For rooting? Or for unlocking bootloader? The way I understand one can always unlock bootloader using code from Motorola no matter if your phone is retail or Dev. Edition, however then root may or may not work? But this contradicts with what you said about if bootloader is unlocked then you can flash custom recovery and SU, so you can still always achieve root. Is there an FAQ or thread on this forum where this is described in details?
JoeSchmoe007 said:
So what specific exploit can be removed? For rooting? Or for unlocking bootloader? The way I understand one can always unlock bootloader using code from Motorola no matter if your phone is retail or Dev. Edition, however then root may or may not work? But this contradicts with what you said about if bootloader is unlocked then you can flash custom recovery and SU, so you can still always achieve root. Is there an FAQ or thread on this forum where this is described in details?
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Any exploit can be removed, so long as they're found and will not inhibit the use of the device. I guess I should clarify a bit. Your bootloader and root access have different ways to get them. The bootloader basically protects the partitions of the phone. The only way to unlock the bootloader of the Moto X is to go to Motorola and get the unique unlock code for your Moto X. The Verizon retail and AT&T retail versions are the only two models of my knowledge that can't be unlocked by Motorola and no exploit has been found for them. How root is achieved by having an unlocked bootloader is as followed; The bootloader is unlocked giving the user access to the partitions of the phone > a custom recovery is flashed > using the new recovery SU binary is added (flashed) to the dormant Android OS. Without an unlocked bootloader, this method is impossible as you can't complete the first step. This is when an exploit in the Android OS is needed. The current SlapMyMoto exploit takes advantage that Motorola lets Moto X users downgrade. Once on a lower version of Android, we can root that and basically 'tunnel' up a path to give ourselves root in they newer version of Android. The unlocked bootloader method is preferred because it's easier and will almost always work (unless Android is given a huge remake). While in recovery, the Android OS is not loaded and thus can't protect itself. This makes adding stuff to it much simpler. When the Android OS is booted though, there are security measures in place that we unrooted can't get past without an exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
This thread has a lot of good info from rooting on both locked and unlocked bootloaders, downgrading, and much more.
Honestly I think you answered your own question. If rooting is your number one priority and you don't mind the white back (which I like actually), then I think the Developer Edition is a no brainer for you.
If you want a custom phone and rooting isn't that important, or you don't care about the warranty, then I'd say get the MotoMaker version.
As far as bugs, the only bug I know of is an exchange bug (which I don't use exchange so I don't even know what the bug is/was), but it was fixed in 4.4.2.
You can root the carrier version ie motomaker. That's all you really need is root along with greenify, xposed, gravity box, and viper4android.
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You can root the carrier version ie motomaker. That's all you really need is root along with greenify, xposed, gravity box, and viper4android.
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Currently there is NO root method for 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader.

[Q] Motorola says Razr M bootloader CAN be unlocked. True ?!?!

I checked the FIND YOUR DEVICE link where Motorola has "Can the bootloader on your device model be unlocked?"
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
I am not a developer and lack the skills to understand this process, but wondered if anyone has checked into this more.
nismopc said:
I checked the FIND YOUR DEVICE link where Motorola has "Can the bootloader on your device model be unlocked?"
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
I am not a developer and lack the skills to understand this process, but wondered if anyone has checked into this more.
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You can only unlock the developer edition of the device through Motorola. Any others must be exploited.
Sent from my RAZR M on BlissPop Lollipop 5.0.2 from Tapatalk
xKroniK13x said:
You can only unlock the developer edition of the device through Motorola. Any others must be exploited.
Sent from my RAZR M on BlissPop Lollipop 5.0.2 from Tapatalk
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I thought the same until I saw under the warnings...
"You have only yourself to blame. Unless you have a Developer Edition device, once you get the unlock code, your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty; in other words, please don't blame us if things go wrong, even if they appear unrelated to unlocking the bootloader."
This tells me all are unlockable, but only developer is warrantied once unlocked...
and this...
"Still undaunted? If you are ready to accept all the implications of unlocking the bootloader, which -except for Developer Edition devices- includes completely voiding your device's warranty, then let's get started."
nismopc said:
I thought the same until I saw under the warnings...
"You have only yourself to blame. Unless you have a Developer Edition device, once you get the unlock code, your device is no longer covered by the Motorola warranty; in other words, please don't blame us if things go wrong, even if they appear unrelated to unlocking the bootloader."
This tells me all are unlockable, but only developer is warrantied once unlocked...
and this...
"Still undaunted? If you are ready to accept all the implications of unlocking the bootloader, which -except for Developer Edition devices- includes completely voiding your device's warranty, then let's get started."
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Some Motorola devices can be that are not developer editions, such as ones sold off-contract like the Moto X Pure Edition or the Moto G. However, since the M is a VZW device it cannot be. If you go through the process it just says that it cannot be unlocked.
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it depends on what version of the razr your running OP.
i think the latest version, cannot be.
but if you havent updated you might be in luck

How to unlock bootloader?

I don't have a Developer Edition yet I would like to unlock the bootloader. I want to root this thing but I don't know how to unlock the bootloader. Any help?
If you haven't noticed already, I have a Droid Maxx 2.
Also if possible I would like to keep my Verizon service please. The unlock code will not work because Verizon apparently won't allow it, so is there a way to unlock the bootloader?
I will get together with some of my friends from work and well take a look at this Devices security. Usually these new droids are TZ protected and I have the droid Maxx but I just purchased this device. I'm sure it won't be as tough as the Droid Maxx to Root or find a vulnerability in the security to unlock its bootloader. Do you know if it has trust zone security?
Motorola website says "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking." I assume Verizon, right?

How to Unlock Bootloader

Someone Plz Take Initiative To provide Guide on How to Unlock Bootloader
Roms. Have started coming out
I would nice if someone made this
Have you try it from, https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/bootloader/
I don't know if it's working,,, I'm not planning to unlocking bootloader yet.. since development of the device is not really good (yet).
R324D said:
Have you try it from, https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/bootloader/
I don't know if it's working,,, I'm not planning to unlocking bootloader yet.. since development of the device is not really good (yet).
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Itz not working app crashing literally everytime
Screenshot
What happened in the process since you opened the webpage?
Is there any command? Is it requiring you to install an apps or something?
Is it "OEM Unlocking" menu on developer options turn to live so can be disabled or enabled?
They ask for email id and pass code
Pass code we get from the hmd boot loader app and app is crashing while asking to confirm bootloader unlock
Nokia doesn't allow to unlock our bootloader officially..
That's why app keeps crashes
https://www.techmesto.com/guide-unlock-bootloader-nokia-android-phones/
Check this link, Its paid but.
There should another way or something to bypass and.unlock
There is no point in having many good roms when u can't use it
saurabh.k said:
Nokia doesn't allow to unlock our bootloader officially..
That's why app keeps crashes
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Adding to this point, the HMD app pointed out will only work for Nokia 8:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...-announces-bootloader-unlock-program-nokia-8/
Hopefully, they will open up the program for more devices.
Nokia had blocked the unlock process last August due to a security threat: https://www.xda-developers.com/augu...nes-blocks-the-only-bootloader-unlock-method/
There's already another thread on this forum which guides you to unlock the bootloader by first downgrading back to the firmware before this August update
It's a reliable service. This is the only way to unlock bootloader currently. I can recommend this..
My Nokia 6.1 plus stuck on androidone download mode
Please help me
How do the paid services generate the unlock codes with IMEI and Serial number?
Any luck with getting bootloader unlocked using their unlock keys, Any experiences with these?
Is it possible to unlock without using these 3rd party services, Are there any algorithms for this. Its been more than a year since its release and still no reliable method to unlock these phones after the security update.
Is it possible to unlock bootloader after downgrading to Oreo, does this require any unlock codes.

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