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Guys I hope all of you had fun with your xperia z1c. I am going to purchase this beauty and want to know about it from your mouths. I know a similar thread is there but all people have done is report bugs. By the way does the plastic back feels cheap. If it feels cheap then may be I am better off with the regular z1. Both z1c and z1 are retailing at around the same price
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subh98 said:
Guys I hope all of you had fun with your xperia z1c. I am going to purchase this beauty and want to know about it from your mouths. I know a similar thread is there but all people have done is report bugs. By the way does the plastic back feels cheap. If it feels cheap then may be I am better off with the regular z1. Both z1c and z1 are retailing at around the same price
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Hello,
I'm not sure of your standard or definition for 'cheap plastic backs', but to me for my Z1 compact, it doesn't feel cheap. I have handled Z1 and Z1 compact and frankly can't tell the difference between the plastic back of compact vs the glass on the Z1. If you decide to go without any form of protection, then I guess you may want a glass back as the plastic back is reported to be scratched easily, if you can accept the larger size of the Z1.

AnDroiD178 said:
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I'm not sure of your standard or definition for 'cheap plastic backs', but to me for my Z1 compact, it doesn't feel cheap. I have handled Z1 and Z1 compact and frankly can't tell the difference between the plastic back of compact vs the glass on the Z1. If you decide to go without any form of protection, then I guess you may want a glass back as the plastic back is reported to be scratched easily, if you can accept the larger size of the Z1.
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I am not a fanatic for aluminium back or glass back but I cannot deny I don't like them, at least a unibody construction is something I prefer. But in hand at store I too didn't notice any difference. Just wondered may be long term use showed. But build quality is not much concern. Rather it is the usability I am concerned. I am thinking to buy this or HTC one mini(don't care about processor as long everything is lag free).
P.S Though I can manage Xperia Z1 its screen is definitely inferior to Z1c even if we forgive dreadful viewing angles. But just a bit of news has jolted me that Xperia Z2c is going to be released.
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subh98 said:
I am not a fanatic for aluminium back or glass back but I cannot deny I don't like them, at least a unibody construction is something I prefer. But in hand at store I too didn't notice any difference. Just wondered may be long term use showed. But build quality is not much concern. Rather it is the usability I am concerned. I am thinking to buy this or HTC one mini(don't care about processor as long everything is lag free).
P.S Though I can manage Xperia Z1 its screen is definitely inferior to Z1c even if we forgive dreadful viewing angles. But just a bit of news has jolted me that Xperia Z2c is going to be released.
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Being developed Yes. I don't think it is going to be released anytime soon. That probably is the japanese model, which I believe usually release around End of the year in sep-november, just like the z1f (japanese z1 compact). It will probably be released worldwide around jan-march, similar to z1f -> z1 compact release date difference.
AFAIK, the tempting difference between z1->z2 is Ram, speaker and display. Display z1c has IPS already. RAM probably would be a bit overkill at the moment but it could be useful in future.

[VIDEO] Sony Xperia Z vs Xperia Z1 vs Xperia Z2

How many generations does it take to build the perfect smartphone? In this video I will show you all differences between Sony Xperia Z vs. Sony Xperia Z1 and Sony Xperia Z2. What exactly has changed between models and is it worth upgrading?

Nice comparison. I'll be able to choose a new device from August, so I'll probably wait for the z3 by then
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Great review!
Btw. is it just my eyes or is it so that the Z1 has the brightest/contrasty Screen out of the three?

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Great review!
Btw. is it just my eyes or is it so that the Z1 has the brightest/contrasty Screen out of the three?
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For some reason the wallpaper is lighter on Z1. When you look at the video playback on all three they are almost identical. I have been looked closely at all three and the brightness is almost the same. The viewing angles on the Z2 are far superior though.
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almost all camera gadgets are available in market, i have latest timeshift, AR effect(this with sounds), motiongraph and this cool blurred background mode, when you shoot two images and play with background, its a bit buggy but work

I really don't like the lack of soft-touch edge on the Z1/2 like on the Z. I understand the metal frame makes it more durable and more premium, but after holding the Z, the Z1 and up feel incredibly slippery in the hand as a result.

I generally like the design of the Z better than that of its sucessors.
The soft-touch was great, aluminum is generally a bad idea when there are antennas nearby and it really destroys the look iam loving the Z for right now.
The plain black monolitic all-around, with the frame that is like pebble-blueish when looked at in the sunlight.
Just great imo.
For me the Z1/Z2 are a step back regarding the sleek elegant design that was inherent to the Z, except for a few changes.
The flap-less headphone jack is really the only thing that i really found to be annoying about the Z, and the 3200mah is also a great step forward.
Other than that there isnt really much beside hardware-specs that was improved in my opinion.
Still missing such a feature like IR, maybe with the Z3?
Display was always kinda okayish when looking straight at it, and due to the bad viewing angles i dont need any kind of "privacy-filter" foil or similiar
Things that should get improved is the Picture-Quality in dark conditions and in macro-mode i hate that blur-filter that seems to destroy any little detail i was used to see on a lot older devices.
There have been Sony-Ericcson's Cybershot phones that are now pretty much "historical" that took more natural or even in general better looking images.
Its also sad for me to know that my five year old phone takes better macro-shots
Anyways, we'll see.
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my xz is the best

It is like in the automobile sector. The first facelift is the best balance between price and features. All the bugs from the protoype version are solved. The features are not to overwhelming and the price is ok.

Z - Feels like a prototype phone. Has many things done good but also has many thing that just feel low quality...
Z1 - Feels like hell-a-lot of an improvement - better screen, and build quality. Still not perfect with those bezels and not as great viewing angles.
Z2 - *Z design brang to perfection* Great screen with good bezels and viewing angles.

I went to store with intent to buy Z2, the display model was abhorrent, the screen was misaligned, there were huge gaps around the screen and middle frame and if that wasnt bad enough the screen was flickering away. As a Z1 owner I couldnt help notice also that the entire look and feel was less premium than Z1. Im sticking with Z1 very disappointed as I was looking forward to 4K vid and display improvements.

Why I think the Xperia Z1 is better looking than Z2

The sharper corners. On the Z2, the corners are more rounded like iPhone/Samsung style. The sharper corners on the Z1 really make the device stand out. This is why I'll be sticking with my white Z1.
I applied made in Japan screen protectors on both front and back straight out of the box so I am not affected by the easy scratching/fingerprints of the anti-shatter sheet by the way ruining the looks of the Z1.

the thiing u just said was all about the appearance but what about under the hood ?!
1GB more RAM , Snapdragon801,4K video recording,120F video shooting,stereo sound,IPS LCD with better colors and viewing angles and so on!
arent these differences enough for switching from z1 to z2?!

NiM72NiK said:
the thiing u just said was all about the appearance but what about under the hood ?!
1GB more RAM , Snapdragon801,4K video recording,120F video shooting,stereo sound,IPS LCD with better colors and viewing angles and so on!
arent these differences enough for switching from z1 to z2?!
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nope. at least not for me.

For me the size & the port covers alone are enough to turn me off the Xperia Z2. It's already in the phablet category with that enormous size. Plus the flaps are different now. You'll need to open only a single long flap in order to access the whole ports. Which means you would be uncovering the flaps more than ever hence it would be more prone to wear and tear and it's also annoying to use while the phone is connected to a USB port.
viiv said:
The sharper corners. On the Z2, the corners are more rounded like iPhone/Samsung style. The sharper corners on the Z1 really make the device stand out. This is why I'll be sticking with my white Z1.
I applied made in Japan screen protectors on both front and back straight out of the box so I am not affected by the easy scratching/fingerprints of the anti-shatter sheet by the way ruining the looks of the Z1.
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nope. at least not for me.
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by the way i'm not going to buy z2 actually because i bought my z1 lately and i'm waiting for z3.but these things will make a z1 owner to buy a z2

Riyal said:
For me the size & the port covers alone are enough to turn me off the Xperia Z2. It's already in the phablet category with that enormous size. Plus the flaps are different now. You'll need to open only a single long flap in order to access the whole ports. Which means you would be uncovering the flaps more than ever hence it would be more prone to wear and tear and it's also annoying to use while the phone is connected to a USB port.
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+1. the long single flaps is a design flaw... most people hardly change the sim card and it's sharing the flaps with the usb port? wonder what is sony's engineers thinking...
also, i some how got a feeling that the aluminum frame is different from z1... not sure why but the feeling is just different when holding z1 and z2... z1 felt a little more solid in hand.

ckchan08 said:
+1. the long single flaps is a design flaw... most people hardly change the sim card and it's sharing the flaps with the usb port? wonder what is sony's engineers thinking...
also, i some how got a feeling that the aluminum frame is different from z1... not sure why but the feeling is just different when holding z1 and z2... z1 felt a little more solid in hand.
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long flap is definitely a flaw but i rarely use the usb port anyways. phone charges on the magnetic dock and for file transfers i do it wirelessly or the SD card (smaller flap).
the Z1 is heavier maybe that's why we feel the Z1 more solid. The only complaint I have on the Z2 is the cheap mat paint all around the phone, i can see them wearing off quickly unlike the Z1 which i used naked for half year without any paint wear even if lightly dropped few times!
anyhow, pretty happy having upgraded to the Z2. I do find that the Z2 looks better than the Z1. smaller bezel, cool speaker grills, huge improvement in color reproduction. But what's really the selling point of the Z2 is what's under the hood as frankly who will be able to tell right away if you have a Z1 or Z2 since they look so similar.. lol.

hpl912 said:
long flap is definitely a flaw but i rarely use the usb port anyways. phone charges on the magnetic dock and for file transfers i do it wirelessly or the SD card (smaller flap).
the Z1 is heavier maybe that's why we feel the Z1 more solid. The only complaint I have on the Z2 is the cheap mat paint all around the phone, i can see them wearing off quickly unlike the Z1 which i used naked for half year without any paint wear even if lightly dropped few times!
anyhow, pretty happy having upgraded to the Z2. I do find that the Z2 looks better than the Z1. smaller bezel, cool speaker grills, huge improvement in color reproduction. But what's really the selling point of the Z2 is what's under the hood as frankly who will be able to tell right away if you have a Z1 or Z2 since they look so similar.. lol.
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Both Z1 & Z2 have similar build quality! Both look stellar but Z2 has much better feel in hand (as it's lighter slimmer & narrower) IMO. Paint quality is similar too, which is anodised over the aluminium frame (on both). I see no easy scratching or paint wearing with normal use on either of the two. I've dropped my Z1 a couple of times on hard floor with no damage but only a few scuffs around corners! Single long flap on left side of Z2 is odd, no doubt, but it is actually easier to pull out compared to those tiny dual flaps on Z1. But besides the screen, speakers, ram & chipset one important aspect in which the Z2 is quite ahead of Z1 is the battery backup. For me the Z2 easily lasts for 2.5 days with 7.5 hrs of SOT with normal usage vs 1.5 days with 5.5 hrs of SOT on the Z1 with similar usage.

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Both Z1 & Z2 have similar build quality! Both look stellar but Z2 has much better feel in hand (as it's lighter slimmer & narrower) IMO. Paint quality is similar too, which is anodised over the aluminium frame (on both). I see no easy scratching or paint wearing with normal use on either of the two. I've dropped my Z1 a couple of times on hard floor with no damage but only a few scuffs around corners! Single long flap on left side of Z2 is odd, no doubt, but it is actually easier to pull out compared to those tiny dual flaps on Z1. But besides the screen, speakers, ram & chipset one important aspect in which the Z2 is quite ahead of Z1 is the battery backup. For me the Z2 easily lasts for 2.5 days with 7.5 hrs of SOT with normal usage vs 1.5 days with 5.5 hrs of SOT on the Z1 with similar usage.
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Yes another think i forgot to mention was the battery life. it indeed lasts longer than the Z1 under same usage.
I don't know about the paint but for me when i went to purchase the Z2, from a brand new sealed box there were spots with paint chipping around the phone at the line where the paint meets the mat finish. I asked for another unit as i find it unacceptable. Opened a second box and samething but less chipping. Ended up taking the second unit as most probably a 3rd box will be the same. This wasn't happening when i purchased the Z1 so my assumption of the cheap QC or paint quality on the Z2

For Me the looks of Z1 with internals of Z2.

i like the z1 more than z2 too and in synthetic benchmark like antutu z1 have an average score about 31k, z2 29k... and the biggest difference (in my opinion) are the 3gb ram and the ips screen ...the snapdragon 801 (msm8974ab) is just an oc´ed version of the snapdragon800(msm8974vv)
i´m going to buy z3 but i hate the rounded cornors from z2 so i stay on my z1 ..

viiv said:
The sharper corners. On the Z2, the corners are more rounded like iPhone/Samsung style. The sharper corners on the Z1 really make the device stand out. This is why I'll be sticking with my white Z1.
I applied made in Japan screen protectors on both front and back straight out of the box so I am not affected by the easy scratching/fingerprints of the anti-shatter sheet by the way ruining the looks of the Z1.
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Even i felt the same when i held the phone in my hand. The aluminium frame on Z2 feels less sturdy than the one on Z1. And for things under the hood, Z1 is no less capable than Z2. They are almost in same league. It is only the software part making the difference. And as far as screen is concerned, yes it has far better screen than the Z1(not to forget the elimination of ASF on Z2).

The sharper corners do look better imho

AgroCPU said:
i like the z1 more than z2 too and in synthetic benchmark like antutu z1 have an average score about 31k, z2 29k... and the biggest difference (in my opinion) are the 3gb ram and the ips screen ...the snapdragon 801 (msm8974ab) is just an oc´ed version of the snapdragon800(msm8974vv)
i´m going to buy z3 but i hate the rounded cornors from z2 so i stay on my z1 ..
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Although this is a bit off topic but I had to say this. Benchmarks have very little significance today especially when it comes to smartphones, as most manufacturers (like Samsung / htc etc.) have cheats (built into the rom itself) to boost the scores. Moreover, these benchmarks are neither consistent themselves nor reliable to assess the real life performance of the device. But anyway, since you brought that up, IMO the Z2 still surpasses Z1 most of the times. I did this antutu test on my non rooted (all stock) Z2 only to post here (as I don't really care about such scores) and it scored 35k. See the screenshot below.

I personally like the size and style of the Z1. Being 5" in size is perfect for the shelf under the stereo in my car as well as not a problem for my jeans pocket. When you get down to it, unless they invent some sort of flip/double screen phone, bigger isn't better. Nor is the hardware any kind of huge improvement.
My Antutu results are for my Xperia Z1 running DoomLord v21 kernel and RomAur v8.0 that is unlocked and rooted. As you can see its only just under the 35k score for a Z2 running stock rom. But ... specs aren't everything. I just like to have my phone the way I want

I like the Z1 design more than the Z2. I agree that it's iPhone style. I don't usually open the flaps of the phone as I transfer files with Software Data Cable via WiFi and I charge my phone on the docking station.
Simple!

Z2 is a far better looking phone, plus with them nice dual speakers it's a no brainer. Z1 isn't an ugly phone but it's in no way shape or form a better looking device than the Z2, you should have went to specsavers mate.

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dladz said:
Z2 is a far better looking phone, plus with them nice dual speakers it's a no brainer. Z1 isn't an ugly phone but it's in no way shape or form a better looking device than the Z2, you should have went to specsavers mate.
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theres no need for specsavers, you get what you pay for and imo there is not much diffrance in the two devices, wow the spekers come on, look on gsm, for the SPECS, but i like my z1 and i think it better than the z2 ,performance is of the chart benchmarks that i reach are 36000 plus all stock no tweaks,oh and the z2 is slighty lighter ha ha and alot more expensive,i have just done a benchmark test and my score is 36517, antutu benchmark,

joecool666 said:
theres no need for specsavers, you get what you pay for and imo there is not much diffrance in the two devices, wow the spekers come on, look on gsm, for the SPECS, but i like my z1 and i think it better than the z2 ,performance is of the chart benchmarks that i reach are 36000 plus all stock no tweaks,oh and the z2 is slighty lighter ha ha and alot more expensive,i have just done a benchmark test and my score is 36517, antutu benchmark,
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Not more expensive in carphone warehouse, they're both 33 on contract and sim free price is the same! The dual speakers do make quite a difference, you don't have to cup the solitary speaker like you do on the Z2, everything just feels more refined on the Z2 than it does on the Z1.
Not the biggest leap forward but it's certainly an upgrade.
As for benchmarks, they're not everything but when theres some decent development for the Z2 I'm guessing it'll outperform the Z1 quite easily. The 801 is still an OC'd 800 but it should make the difference.

Sony Xperia XA review: Where did the bezels go?

Sony Xperia XA review: Where did the bezels go?
At the launch of the Sony Xperia XA earlier this year, there was confusion among the attending journalists. Which was the premium handset? This one, or the Xperia X it launched alongside?
The reason for the confusion was not the phone’s specifications, but the design, which is exceptional. It’s the bezels, or rather the lack of them, that really catch the eye here. To the left and right of the screen, instead of the usual two to three millimetres, it appears there’s no gap at all. At least that’s what Sony wants you to think. Switch on the Sony Xperia XA and it’s evident there’s still a narrow black border surrounding the display, but it’s only 1mm thick.
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In fact, to my eyes, the Sony Xperia XA is a more attractive phone than the company’s premium Xperia X. Even the plastic back feels nice under the finger, and a pearlescent finish gives it an unusually exotic appearance. The white version I’m testing here has a subtle, coloured sheen that glimmers pink when it catches the light. The phone is also available in Lime Gold, Rose Gold and Graphite Black.
And, given that it’s plastic, another bonus is that you’ll be decidedly less concerned about it shattering into a million sharp pieces if you happen to drop it. All in all, the Sony Xperia XA is a finely honed smartphone, which is impressive given the reasonable price tag.

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"Look" of the device (aesthetics)

Is the Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is a beautiful phone.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Feels and looks great, just not as good as the bezel-less competitors.

Has anyone compared the silver model to the black? Given that the phone isn't all metal, I'm wondering if silver would look more "cheap" than the black one.

I own a black one and it looks so great and professional. Saw couples of silver unit in Youtube and I think it looks cheap. Another thing is the big black navigation button bar on the bottom blends well on black unit, whereas other colors tend to reduce the overall aesthetic of the UI in my opinion.

Still got my Xperia Acro S, and with the Anysoftkeyboard with the ICS addon, it looks like my Acro S, but a bit faster. XZ1 Compact is more slippery than the Acro S, but I love my new Xperia!

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I own a black one and it looks so great and professional. Saw couples of silver unit in Youtube and I think it looks cheap. Another thing is the big black navigation button bar on the bottom blends well on black unit, whereas other colors tend to reduce the overall aesthetic of the UI in my opinion.
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This. I totally agree. I got mine for a couple of days now. Guys trust us, you MUST get the black one. It looks more "professional", more "blackberry" let's say and even more compact.

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Has anyone compared the silver model to the black? Given that the phone isn't all metal, I'm wondering if silver would look more "cheap" than the black one.
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i got the silver/white xz1c and it doesn't look cheap to my eye. it doesn't look quite as classy as the silver xz though.

I ended up getting the black one. It arrived today. I love the look and feel! The back doesn't look cheap to me at all. Very happy with the purchase so far.

I agree! Used mine for ~ a week now, and I love it. My Samsung S5 looks so Samsung, and the XZ1C looks so much better! Got the black.

I got the silver one, and yeah, I wish the paint looked better, but I still like it. The "silver" gives the phone an industrial look to it, which I like.
I wish they used a silver that was like the paint on the Galaxy S7.
The big front camera circle bothered me initially, but after a while I started liking it. Gives the phone some personality. Makes it more unique.
I was considering getting it in black to "hide" the front camera, but now I like seeing it.
I think people are being sheep when they complain about bezels. If the phone looks good, it looks good, bezels or no.
The bezels look good in this case because they are the same size top and bottom (omni-balance), and they appear to have a purpose, house the speakers and camera and sensors. Comparatively, the first pixel phone looked awkward with its bezels.

I got black one. Looks amazing, First look is better than when i got black Z3C. Love the phone design, slightly changed from other Xperias <3

My only issue is that the top and bottom of the phone are not symmetrical. That kind of annoys my OCDness.

Love the design, but personally I like the Xperia X Compact in the Mist Blue and White colours a lot more. Also, the Z5 Compact in yellow was pretty awesome where the front of the phone was all black making the yellow less distracting when looking at it but still overall a stand out colour.

I have black version and it LOOKS superb. Really beautiful and "professional". What i don't like however is the metal top and bottom. It is not symetrical, and the plaquetes are more into the display side. I am supposing that they should prevent display, when you put the phone display down (why would you do that tho). I am also not fan of the sharp edges. Really the corners should be at least a bit rounded, I am afraid the phone will damage my jeans lol

I feel this phone is the best design Sony has put out, beating the newer devices imo, since I prefer the side-mounted fingerprint sensor power button and headphone port. The matte metal all around feels great and doesn't require a case or stickers to make it less slippery finally too. Performance is amazing and so far my battery life is even better than all my previous Xperia Compacts