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hi all plz help me by giving the link to the three roms in order to test them
thanks a lot guys i'm newbie
You expect people to do all the work for you?
Try reading through the threads in this forum...you might actually learn something. All the links are in the threads.
@the_scotsman
yeah... some people are like that. sad to say...
@abou_imad
read the stickies... and the wikis
This is what Ive noticed, especially when there are some new update for modules and ROM's;
1. A massive repeated posting regarding new updates.
Its not that we dont want to help you guy's who has difficulties installing ROMs/Module to your phone, but please before posting new topic make sure you consult SEARCH button first, then if you dont find any answer thru searching then its the time to consult. I dont know if we are just lazy to search or what. This is all for us to have a well organized Section and for us to find topic easily. Isnt great to have a single thread so that newbie will not have to search back and post a new topic with already answered one? As you can see Forum for X8 and other are already Categorized, so please post in the right section. Some user made an effort already to organize the topics by making a FAQ with it, so i suggest we should use it for general concern about specific topic. Maybe we can control this massive posting by just dont answering there query if we knew that there question already been answered. Hmm dont think that's rude but i think it will help. Coz if we answer it, they will keep on doing that all over again if they encounter another problem. I also admit that I did this sometime thats why if you could notice i use "we". And i want to change it.
2. Flamming
also known as bashing, is hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users. It is clearly noticeable, that we argue in certain things, but please not to the point that we are already fighting/degrading and hurting someone's feeling so please RESPECT each other, If your good/great then be it, but we have to welcome a newbie gracefully, lets make them feels that they were home and accepted. Im sure we once get here clueless about things or if not, not so knowledgeable enough, we are not in a competition here and we don't question your greatness and knowledge, were proud of it. This is a training ground not a battle ground. Were here to have a harmonious relationship with others, besides we are all FAMILY here. I know for some reason that we just dont stay here to get what we want to our phone, but simply to help each other.
3. Patience
I know it is good to have all what we want, but please stop forcing/requesting repeatedly to our developer, we didnt hired them to work for us, besides they are sharing there work for FREE, and even they ask for some donations, well they have the right to do so, as they are working for us. Imagine if all our developer will be get hired by SE and charge us for all their great work. They will have a better career there, and what do you think will happened to us who are just benefited by there free work? Think of that. So please let's be patient, extend your patience give all there time to find the solution. BTW reporting bugs is different from asking/requesting. It just make our dev's annoyed and might lose interest to work for our many cries. They want to give us a stable home for our phone and they knew about that, so we dont have to tell them what to do, well in fact they know more than you do.
These are just some of my observation. Dont get me wrong here coz its for the common good. I may not give you any ROM,s or Module but i can give you Life Lesson and Love. And if you will hate me for this, well sorry but i will just love you and hug you until such time you realize what I am saying here.
Isn't it great to have a good relationship with everyone and i doubt that you don't feel something when you help someone! I just dont get ROM, Modules and learning here, the most important I gained friends!
Well, it takes two to cuddle and i totally agree with u on this
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Best thread ever ;*
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Oo i have some question whąt if doixanh said in his thread with.froyobread to report bugs cuz he wąnna fix them? Im just asking ;D Love you xD
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Oo i have some question whąt if doixanh said in his thread with.froyobread to report bugs cuz he wąnna fix them? Im just asking ;D Love you xD
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Well i think its normal for them to ask, coz we the user use more our phone than they do. It will took them sometime to release a ROM is they will test every single function in there work. There work is to provide us the ROM/Modules. If they asked us to look for bugs, then that's also the time for us to work, in return with there great work. Coz i know that they will stop developing if we dont tell them about the problem we encountered. Besides they also get idea's to us. Many heads are better than One. And this is also what you called helping hands. Give and Take process not Take and Take (that's a bad idea) .. wink. oh btw I love ya too.
Ok thanks now you leave myself clear about everything
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I wish mods and members read this.
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Ok thanks now you leave myself clear about everything
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Finally you get my point with oc and uv! Juhuuuu im happy now i help someone if you need more help just PM me
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Finally you get my point with oc and uv! Juhuuuu im happy now i help someone if you need more help just PM me
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Yes and im so thankful for the new learning's and most of all I appreciated your effort to explain it to me in english. I can say that your English is improving. mwuah!
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Yes and im so thankful for the new learning's and most of all I appreciated your effort to explain it to me in english. I can say that your English is improving. mwuah!
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And everything without google translate
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
edit: it seems that the mods are deleting the multi touch related topics without checking the content deeply so i'll pm some1 with some knowledge , again sry for spamming
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I agree with this thread and i have add one thing for all X8 users:
I daily check some forums (not only x8) and what i mostly see is people that reply to newbie posts in a rude and useless way, we all hate double posts, no search, requests, stupid posts but keep in mind that when you reply " yo, arent you able to use search ?" "use the dammit search!" , these are posts count at my eyes and rude replies.( i hate them )
If you find that someone did the same post over and over, if someone didn't use the search button or whatever, just ignore to reply and pm or report me and i will do something.
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
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I think they will not delete it without a reason or purpose. Maybe your post was against the rules (i dont know), but im pretty sure Mod's here has its reason, and if it doesnt abuse/break rules then you can consult our moderators. Im pretty sure that they will give time to listen to your query or statement. Remember that they were chosen well and proved enough to be helpful. I think no mods here are using there power as a reason.
I firmly believes in the power of reason, not in the use of power/force as a reason.
Edited: GHoSTABUD, i see the one you posted, htc MT driver that uses synaptic right? Thats promising and pretty useful in the future i think.
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I agree with this thread and i have add one thing for all X8 users:
I daily check some forums (not only x8) and what i mostly see is people that reply to newbie posts in a rude and useless way, we all hate double posts, no search, requests, stupid posts but keep in mind that when you reply " yo, arent you able to use search ?" "use the dammit search!" , these are posts count at my eyes and rude replies.( i hate them )
If you find that someone did the same post over and over, if someone didn't use the search button or whatever, just ignore to reply and pm or report me and i will do something.
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I totally agree with you, If we dont have something good to say nor help better we keep our mouth shut, coz words is extremely hurtful. We encourage newbie to learn so that one day they will contribute to us, not discourage them because of our rude manners. I always say this, make them feel at home. Coz were once a newbie too.
DON'T DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU DON'T WANT OTHERS DO UNTO YOU
I deletd the that thread (and other 2) because there was another one made before and as the multitouch thread in the past, i've found useless having 8 threads for the same purpose.
Anyway i did copy your post and another one from the delòeted one and the sticky that i made early.
EDIT: and that's why today i've got a pm from an x8 user:
where are you at? lately the x8 forum has become a big mess with useless threads multiple times
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Sry for spamming here deedii but it seems the mods deleted the other thread with the links i posted, i mean wtf???????????
edit: it seems that the mods are deleting the multi touch related topics without checking the content deeply so i'll pm some1 with some knowledge , again sry for spamming
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There should really be a separate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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I deletd the that thread (and other 2) because there was another one made before and as the multitouch thread in the past, i've found useless having 8 threads for the same purpose.
Anyway i did copy your post and another one from the delòeted one and the sticky that i made early.
EDIT: and that's why today i've got a pm from an x8 user:
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thanks for ur reply man and i'm sry for accusing without knowing carefully what i should have said
anyways i pm'd 2 dev's now n i'm w8ing for a reply so the question is if what i've found is actually a dt driver is it ok if i open a thread in the dev section or should i pm some1 else who can actually develope it and he should do what he has to do :S confused ...
anyways thanks again man
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There should really be a separate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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Yes and this will organize everything.
That's a nice idea indeed.
You only need someone that take care of the thread while copying all reported bugs and fixes from the thread to the first page, otherwise it will be difficult to track bugs.
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There should really be a seperate thread for each rom opened up where all the bugs noticed and reported back in the development thread will get addressed with the solution.
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No worrie man, i didn't take it as an offence .....sometimes mods are seen as cops and you are not happy when you got an infraction from them
Anyway if you will find that it is a driver or something related to development, you can make a thread in dev forum:
_ give proper how to install
_ give credit where it's right
_ dont post any help questions
and you are done.
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thanks for ur reply man and i'm sry for accusing without knowing carefully what i should have said
anyways i pm'd 2 dev's now n i'm w8ing for a reply so the question is if what i've found is actually a dt driver is it ok if i open a thread in the dev section or should i pm some1 else who can actually develope it and he should do what he has to do :S confused ...
anyways thanks again man
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As the title of the thread says anything you want to post keep it here regarding the ICS porting... Please, keep all your posts and wishes to the devs here. That is the entire point of this thread; for general discussions and non-dev issues.I will always try and keep updates in this thread and in the first post..
Also keep up to date here.
http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2011/11/20/status-update-for-ics-on-galaxy-s-ii/
Notice to everyone before going ahead and posting in this thread. Please read here
Working
Display
Touchscreen
RIL
Audio
Wifi
GPS
Sensors
SD Cards
Bluetooth
Phone ending
Rotation
transparency fixed courtesy of Team Hacksung
HWcomposer is working now(this is what it does.For using the GPU to render the UI.)
Soft keys have now gone ala Nexus style
What's not working
Camera
Video Recording
Video Codecs
Call Mic so far not working during calls
—IMPORTANT INFO—
The team working on the project:
TeamHacksung
Xplowild
Intratech's amazing posts. Quality post 1,Quality Post 2
Thanks again to all devs for the hard work they are doing for us
Development thread and Q&A/General threads always end up the same... you know.. because people in dev section just noob it.
So...
Let's give some estimates?
I say I ll have ICS running in no more than 34 hours.
jastonas said:
Development thread and Q&A/General threads always end up the same... you know.. because people in dev section just noob it.
So...
Let's give some estimates?
I say I ll have ICS running in no more than 34 hours.
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well hope you are right about the estimates but regarding the other part i will make sure that all noob questions are posted here instead...wished i was a mod to say that noob questions posted there will be welcomed with a big ban with it anyways the thread is here now so anyone wants to leave even the most pointless post do it here instead
Just wondering - how many threads/posts do you have per day?
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Just wondering - how many threads/posts do you have per day?
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this is the one and only one i have King all respect to you Sir i got no lifei have the xda bug.....
EDIT:30 posts a day.... why not...better than going out and gambling or doing drugs
and anyway this is to help the team concentrate on their work and for noobs and the rest to post there stuff here...keep that thread in android section just for pure dev posts..no harm in that is there
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this is the one and only one i have King all respect to you Sir i got no lifei have the xda bug.....
EDIT:30 posts a day.... why not...better than going out and gambling or doing drugs
and anyway this is to help the team concentrate on their work and for noobs and the rest to post there stuff here...keep that thread in android section just for pure dev posts..no harm in that is there
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Haha true. Well I'm glad to see you helping out in all ways possible .
I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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aaaaww just wipe it and you'll be fine ! ^^
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I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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Here it starts ....!
• This thread should be a sticky till ICS release.
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I tried putting Icecream sandwich on my Galaxy S2 but I think it's incompatible! It melted and now my phone's all sticky.
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aaaaww just wipe it and you'll be fine ! ^^
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If wiping it doesn't work,paint it blue(Will match the ICS theme too) and throw it in the sea.It's effective.You'll never have problems with that phone again.
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well hope you are right about the estimates but regarding the other part i will make sure that all noob questions are posted here instead...wished i was a mod to say that noob questions posted there will be welcomed with a big ban with it anyways the thread is here now so anyone wants to leave even the most pointless post do it here instead
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It's a good thing that noobull****(You know,noobs' bull**** ) tend to be seperated from development thread.They just tend to though.When the day comes that XDA forums will be divided in noob and developer forums and noobs stick to their rightful place,then XDA will be a better place.Ahh Utopia...
To avoid misunderstandings:
I don't call anyone who isn't a developer a noob.If I did,I'd be calling 90% of XDA's users,including me and people much better than me,noobs.Noobs are those typical idiots with that strange sense of entitlement to other,more skilled people's work,while they don't contribute to anything.Although I'm pretty sure most of you know what I mean...
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If wiping it doesn't work,paint it blue(Will match the ICS theme too) and throw it in the sea.It's effective.You'll never have problems with that phone again.
To avoid misunderstandings:
I don't call anyone who isn't a developer a noob.If I did,I'd be calling 90% of XDA's users,including me and people much better than me,noobs.Noobs are those typical idiots with that strange sense of entitlement to other,more skilled people's work,while they don't contribute to anything.Although I'm pretty sure most of you know what I mean...
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I knew my spur of stupidity would give good feedback. haha.
Yeah, well keep in mind that most of us have been noobs at sometime or another. What's important is how long you move away from n00bishness and become like everyone else. heh
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Haha true. Well I'm glad to see you helping out in all ways possible .
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thanks mate. i know im not a dev or themer or know coding and stuff but if i can help in any way so the devs can get their work done in peace then that for me is job well done and i will do anything for it to happen.
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joker..nice to see you here mate
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Here it starts ....!
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i think it should be..so at least people can stop opening pointless threads and at least they can use this as their source
tolis626 said:
If wiping it doesn't work,paint it blue(Will match the ICS theme too) and throw it in the sea.It's effective.You'll never have problems with that phone again.
It's a good thing that noobull****(You know,noobs' bull**** ) tend to be seperated from development thread.They just tend to though.When the day comes that XDA forums will be divided in noob and developer forums and noobs stick to their rightful place,then XDA will be a better place.Ahh Utopia...
To avoid misunderstandings:
I don't call anyone who isn't a developer a noob.If I did,I'd be calling 90% of XDA's users,including me and people much better than me,noobs.Noobs are those typical idiots with that strange sense of entitlement to other,more skilled people's work,while they don't contribute to anything.Although I'm pretty sure most of you know what I mean...
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Amen to that file mou....Sympwnw apolita mazi sou...(agree with you) we are all noobs we all started from somewere but there is a line between not knowing and actually trying to find out something on your own..
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I knew my spur of stupidity would give good feedback. haha.
Yeah, well keep in mind that most of us have been noobs at sometime or another. What's important is how long you move away from n00bishness and become like everyone else. heh
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again another well good post...keep them coming..
anything you might know guys or anyone that can help the cause of getting port over now since the source is out(yes i know drivers are the most important piece of the puzzle) post it here and i will put it in the first post so we can keep everyone else updated.. thanks to you all and the devs who take their time to do all this for us...
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thanks mate. i know im not a dev or themer or know coding and stuff but if i can help in any way so the devs can get their work done in peace then that for me is job well done and i will do anything for it to happen.
joker..nice to see you here mate
i think it should be..so at least people can stop opening pointless threads and at least they can use this as their source
Amen to that file mou....Sympwnw apolita mazi sou...(agree with you) we are all noobs we all started from somewere but there is a line between not knowing and actually trying to find out something on your own..
again another well good post...keep them coming..
anything you might know guys or anyone that can help the cause of getting port over now since the source is out(yes i know drivers are the most important piece of the puzzle) post it here and i will put it in the first post so we can keep everyone else updated.. thanks to you all and the devs who take their time to do all this for us...
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You either speek Greek for some reason,or we Greeks are much more common than I thought.
Anyway,yes,we've all acted noobish at times,but there are two types of noobs as I have said elsewhere:
i)The "I want to learn" noob,who is the good noob and the one to be deprived of his noobishness quickly and once and for all.
ii)The "I'm an ass and think I deserve it all" noob,who is that typical idiot that asks the same question that was answered two posts above his.Number (ii) is the plague of every tech forum,not only XDA.
Being a noob isn't bad by itself.The problem is which noob type you choose to be.
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You either speek Greek for some reason,or we Greeks are much more common than I thought.
Anyway,yes,we've all acted noobish at times,but there are two types of noobs as I have said elsewhere:
i)The "I want to learn" noob,who is the good noob and the one to be deprived of his noobishness quickly and once and for all.
ii)The "I'm an ass and think I deserve it all" noob,who is that typical idiot that asks the same question that was answered two posts above his.Number (ii) is the plague of every tech forum,not only XDA.
Being a noob isn't bad by itself.The problem is which noob type you choose to be.
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Haha..I love your posts.. Make so much sense...And fully fledged Greek my friend..
I choose number 1..That is the kinda noob i consider myself to be..There are still things i am learning...Do not thing it would be to the level of dev or themer but i feel pretty good so far in what i have learned in the short space i have been using android.
Rant... ish.
I don't think it's just forums where you find this issue. The world seems to be full of people these days who seem to think that the entire planet owes them something although they have probably not done a days honest work in their entire pathetic existence.
Rather off-topic wouldn't you say
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I don't think it's just forums where you find this issue. The world seems to be full of people these days who seem to think that the entire planet owes them something although they have probably not done a days honest work in their entire pathetic existence.
Rather off-topic wouldn't you say
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That is the point of having this thread...So can people post the normal ICS stuff and other things they want to say....Not filling the thread on the dev section with it..
And yeah unfortunately this is life..you will get those kinda people werever you go even if its online or not...
Mcjim113 said:
I don't think it's just forums where you find this issue. The world seems to be full of people these days who seem to think that the entire planet owes them something although they have probably not done a days honest work in their entire pathetic existence.
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Hah,tell me.And one of these guys happens to be teaching me math at school.Pathetic sometimes...Not to sound like a ****er,but some people here consider me something like a genious(at math,physics and chemistry) and he insists that I'm good because he's a good teacher.Stopping this because it'll get ugly!
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Haha..I love your posts.. Make so much sense...And fully fledged Greek my friend..
I choose number 1..That is the kinda noob i consider myself to be..There are still things i am learning...Do not thing it would be to the level of dev or themer but i feel pretty good so far in what i have learned in the short space i have been using android.
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Well yeah,I too consider myself let's say...Part-time noob.I help noobs that are worth it,insult those who deserve it,point out development issues...Well,one does what one can do!
And,Greek?Holy poo!Where are you from?
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Hah,tell me.And one of these guys happens to be teaching me math at school.Pathetic sometimes...Not to sound like a ****er,but some people here consider me something like a genious(at math,physics and chemistry) and he insists that I'm good because he's a good teacher.Stopping this because it'll get ugly!
Well yeah,I too consider myself let's say...Part-time noob.I help noobs that are worth it,insult those who deserve it,point out development issues...Well,one does what one can do!
And,Greek?Holy poo!Where are you from?
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London based but originally from Cyprus in Larnaka..Same here help noobs that are worth it and try to get them to the next level which is called super noob
And i do have the XDA bug..For some reason im on here learning and plus helping others were i can but also on the look out for new roms to play with and see what new is out.
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London based but originally from Cyprus in Larnaka..Same here help noobs that are worth it and try to get them to the next level which is called super noob
And i do have the XDA bug..For some reason im on here learning and plus helping others were i can but also on the look out for new roms to play with and see what new is out.
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Hah!We Greeks are very common to stumble upon after all!
Always happy to see that there is "just-one-more" of us.
Anyway,I don't have the XDA bug at such a degree,but I do have some bad ORD(Obsessive Rom-flashing Disorder).Blood examination didn't show anything.I'll try acupuncture.
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Haha, if anyone didn't know the lingo here, that would make for one confusing sentence
Sticky thread ice cream sandwich release
Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Wisdom strong in this post is. Franco is a really good developer and I'm sad he left Note. He used to develop for my old Huawei before he left for GNex and his kernel rocked. :thumbup:
But... One shouldn't take the regular forum trolls too seriously. Just leave them crying in their own **** and move own. There is also the report function here.
I agree with you though that there is way too much idiots in the development forums. Just look at the new JB PA 1.1 thread: couple of first pages just full of posts "how do I install this?" "does this brick my phone!?" etc. So annoying to find the actual bug reports or feedbacks through all the ****. This is because people are way too lazy to actually study anything these days. Everything has to brought to them ready and chewed.
Edit: and there is also this one hero that already bricked his note with JB PA because he didn't care to study stuff before flashing. :banghead:
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Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.
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Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.
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We can report.. But that won't stop the developer getting pissed and stopping development..
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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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Tbh there should be a read count for how many threads someone has read. :beer: That would just be a little hard to measure.
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I certainly agree on you with this one. But like in every other forum and the whole internet, you can't really prevent noobs and trolls. Trolls gotta troll man. Kinda hard to filter them out as it will require the mods to check every single day on every single thread with thousands of post on it and obviously that will take full time. Most of us specially moderators do this for a hobby.
Let's just do our part to make the community a better place. That is reporting trolls. Like the other guy said on the 2nd post, let's just click on that little report button and the mods will take care of the rest or you can just ignore the regular forum troll and move on like most of us do. An old internet saying "Don't feed the trolls" ignore them and the average forum troll will just hunt for the next trollable thread and will eventually get tired, while the persistent ones, well let's just keep on clicking the report button and wait for the banhammer to land
The post requirement or the tenureship in the forum is a fantastic idea though. Maybe even the thanks meter/level, like you could post even if you're not 3 months old or don't have 350 posts but if you do have a certain thanks level/meter you could post and access the restricted area of the forums. No one would press the thanks button if you didn't post something useful right?
Randomwalker said:
I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Although you have a point here i really don't like the idea. Ok we need to restrict the troll posts but..... once you were a noob too !!!! What we see now is that this site has grown to numbers never seen before. In the early days there were only a handfull users, a few devices and not much to do. Nowadays if you have a problem EVERYBODY refers to this forum from other places. So basicly we have a flood of new, unexperienced, people that just have one big problem: THEY DON'T READ!!!! I've been a member for a long time now, learned a lot just by reading and only post when i think it's usefull to the comunity. Even after all this time i still sometimes ask questions like a noob, should i be blocked???
There is one solution for this problem: NOT allowing to post untill they have at least read a few posts MARKED as an obligation. But i don't think it's possible.
What we see here is the growing of a forum with soo many devices and people, i think about a year or two this will stabelize :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.
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put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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I abandoned a forum in my country due to "laws /rules" like that. Things were just getting out of proportion that it is impossible to help people there. Unfortunatly the mods over there think that they are god and if you make a reference about this forum or about rooting you will get banned !!!! I don't think that it's the future of this forum..
Restrict some topics to people that have more then xx months or xx posts will help. But i don't think it's possible to do. And what a bout people like me, i only read here, learn and do not post often. I don't have time to make a rom or custom firmware and come here for leasure ??? Am i elegible for seeing everything...... As you see it is very hard to make the choise about who can have full accesws and who doesn't.
becosemsaida
Write on development section thread should have some restriction.
And thank meter is one good criteria (just being member since long/posting just certain number of post dont make skilled)
if member have at least 10-20 thank meter he/she must have some skill and may not post noob Q.
There is always Q/A section is open for newbies.
this needs to be said.....
i have to call you out on this. The OP has been posting bizarre and rambling questions in DEV threads, getting all pissed off when ppl ask him not too, and has even admitted to not wanting to bother reading the thread because he is not that stupid.
It is people LIKE YOU that are bringing this place down.
If you cant be bothered searching or reading, you DO NOT BELONG on a development website. end of story.
If you want to make your phone look pretty to impress your mates, go some place else. XDA is all about the journey - the end result is not so important. its about trying things yourself and sharing knowledge. If you are just lucky enough, you might even be able to help someone out!
do not come here to whinge and flame others when you break the rules (do NOT post in a dev thread if it is not directly related to the development of that thread).
Also, you have to wonder how a user of 4 months has over 1000 posts, and some members have been here for years with only 500 posts.....
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Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.
trolls and noobs should rot in hell
as for noobs,reading and jesus saves....
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
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And I completely agree with you. So why are you being all pissy about it?
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And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.
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Well clearly my definition of a noob/n00b/newb/newbie is different to yours. So I apologise if my "sweeping statement" offended you (and/or anyone else).
Are we not fighting for the same thing here?
Gee fricken wizz.
msedek said:
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
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I think XDA should do nothing here.
There are no real reasons to rage at some users posts.
There's nothing SO bad about it.
You can always press 'report' button if some super-mega-trolls come to your thread (I haven't seen any yet)
As for me, XDA community is currently not so friendly as it should be.
Devs raging at most of the posts, advanced users trolling noobs...
That's really not so nice.
Blocking users with small post count or small thanks count, etc is unacceptable in my opinion. Really.
Maybe XDA is meant for developers, but developers can't exist without users they are developing for.
Here is Example, why we should need some control
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29501802&postcount=91
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upgrades to lrk from lrg yesterday. No issues with deep sleep in both 404 version. Battery lasts more than a day. I am a very heavy user. I am satisfied with the performance, battery consumption.
I always factory reset after flashing a rom. You can do that but at your own risk. I am aware of the brick bug but i have don't at least till 40 times on stock kernel and no issues so far.
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jaskiratsingh said:
I have factory reset over 40 times on stock ICS kernel and no issue so far.
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That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)
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That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)
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This I agree, sometimes it's not that they're noob, it's that they're kiasu, as we Singaporeans call it. They spam devs with stupid questions, since it's free to ask anyway, and expect people to be free 24/7 to reply.
Also, many devs hate XDA. Because much dev work is not being appreciated here. In the Acer Iconia A500 section, both devs "Thor2002pro" and "dexter_nlb" have made amazing contributions to the community, but many *******s don't appreciate what they have done. They have left subsequently.
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Hey Folks!
Knowing that there actually is the "one and only - everything belongs here - Master - Uber - Thread" for Note II stuff, I woke up this morning suddendly being such a shamless guy who thinks, that this topic deserves an own thread!
As it became very important for my purchasing habit to know if there will be a developing community (and I think that I´m not alone with this strange thoughts), I would like to ask the devs, cooks, themers etc. if they see any (great) future for the Note II and if they are planning to switch or at least to "touch" the Note II in near future.
If this poll should become reliable, I would like to ask everyone who is NOT working on ROMs or Apps to NOT touch the poll :highfive:
Hehe, okay this is very encouraging :cyclops:
gonna report the thread as its well known that theres one already to post everything about note 2... why wouldnt they develop for note 2? most devs does have and support several devices at once
and therese already a note 2 dedicated forum
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msedek said:
gonna report the thread as its well known that theres one already to post everything about note 2... why wouldnt they develop for note 2? most devs does have and support several devices at once
and therese already a note 2 dedicated forum
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I don´t know if you have read the content of this thread, but I´m pretty sure that hardly any dev will look into the general thread...and furthermore: it is not possible to start a poll when I´m not the OP of a thread. And it would become hard to get an insight about the number of devs interested in the Note II when this question is asked in a all-you-can-think-of-thread.
I have seen a couple threads closed because note2 general thread that I did not agree with. Putting them in a general thread gets them burried and then no one sees them. Rubber stamping note2 threads is not a good solution. Unfortunately I think this thread is well suited for the Note2 General thread.
@msedek, You sir are a miserable git.
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lol @ msedek ....im telling over you lol
i think its a valid post everthing cannot go in one post surley
Nianfur said:
@msedek, You sir are a miserable git.
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+1 , spot on nianfur
Would be nice to know, which devs will be continuing support, perhaps they could simply tell us in their rom, thread , but then again look how old the s2 is and the dev is still full on. That's what's so great about xda, even the old hd2, HTC diamond and desire hd have lots of development, often lots of the new updates in the later models can be ported across, ie we have some s3 elements likewise the same will happen with the note 2.
Note I ...
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Note I ...
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Thanks for bumping a one year old thread...
LordManhattan said:
Thanks for bumping a one year old thread...
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He's trying to muster more than 10 posts, so he can ask for ETAs and futures™ in the Dev forum. :fingers-crossed: