hi, I have a 2012 Chrysler Town & Country with the touchscreen stereo but it does not have navigation. I was thinking to get one that has navigation but I'm not impressed with the features from the OEM stereo.
I have searched and cannot find any head unit that is specific to this vehicle. Does anyone know what it would take to install a universal android head unit in my Town & Country?
My vehicle has the steering wheel control and the CAN bus.
I really like the one from InDashNet.
Thanks in advance.
I've attached a few pictures of my current stereo connectors.
not sure about the universal, but I think that Chrysler used the same radio in Chrysler family (Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge) for that time frame.
you will probably need to look at your specific radio and see if it looks like one of these Jeep ones, whereas they look the same, but they mount slightly different:
Wrangler
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/m202-jeep-wrangler-media-satnav-2007-16/
Grand Cherokee:
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/m263-jeep-grand-cherokee-media-satnav-2011-13/
I have this Joying for my Jeep and love it:
https://www.carjoying.com/quad-core...for-jeep-dodge-support-mirror-link-wifi-.html
CadillacMike, Thanks for the reply.
Did that just fit into your Jeep, or did you have to splice any wires?
For my Jeep it was plug and play, and works like a champ. This is the harness that comes with the Joying. That purple looking box is the Canbus adapter that should keep your steering wheel controls working
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The gray module on the Joying clips right into the Jeep wiring harness
I also sold my old 430N for a decent price on eBay.
However, it is worth noting that I had the Jeep with the base audio system.
Got the same Joying for my buddy with a Jeep that had the premium alpine factory upgrade, and his amp and sub do not work right. So we are having to get a PAC module and splice a harness together.
However my Jeep with an aftermarket sub and amp works just fine. looks stock
Ok, what year and model is your jeep? And you had the 430N huh?
My T&C has the 430, so I know a 430N would just plug and play right in. I've spoke with a dealer parts dept who said that the 430N from a jeep should be the same as from my T&C.
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Ok, what year and model is your jeep? And you had the 430N huh?
My T&C has the 430, so I know a 430N would just plug and play right in. I've spoke with a dealer parts dept who said that the 430N from a jeep should be the same as from my T&C.
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mine is a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. However they haven't changed the dash on Jeep since 2011.
I dont know for sure, but I have read that Jeep combines the Sirius and GPS cord into one. So in theory Chrysler could do the same, and you would have a GPS antenna already available.
The Joying does come with its own GPS antenna, but i bought an adapter on Amazon for about $10 that allowed me to reuse my existing Jeep GPS
Ok, sounds like I'm willing to give it a shot.
Just a little info on the Joying you bought. I see it had only 1Ggb ram. On a phone that usually causes serious lag. Have you noticed any on this stereo? Any cons at all that you know of?
Well you have to set your expectations accordingly. Some people on these sites complain about these radios like they expect since it is Android it should be the same as a 2016 Flagship phone.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. It is awesome. I do not expect an under $400 chinese radio to perform the same.
I got mine from Amazon with Prime:
https://smile.amazon.com/Challenger...F8&qid=1471449612&sr=8-1&keywords=joying+jeep
Joying support is good, but it is in China, so massive time difference, so about 1 email per day back and forth. So just realize if you need to contact them, a small communication could take a week or so. They write back every day, but there a language barrier and a time delay.
So for me, my Joying is great. I have a remote start, and use that as I walk up, so I dont care about the 30 second startup.
At first it is super cool to have Android and you try a bunch of stuff. More stuff you do, more lag will occur. Now that I'm getting into a routine with it, it performs pretty good. But, I use it like a car head unit.
So I use it for music, GPS, and phone calls, which is about the same as I have used any previous car radio.
I dont use FM radio, I use Google Play Music, Pandora, and Spotify. GPM is a little slow, but works. Pandora works fine, but requires data, and I have plenty of data, but it is annoying to have to turn on and off my hotspot and turn wifi back on when needed. I have found Spotify works the best. I have a Premium account, so I save music offline to the sd card. The Spotify interface is car friendly and is pretty fluid, and it easily recognizes the external sd card, which GPM did not.
GPS i have tried several, but currently sorting through 4. Google Maps is great, but again, kind of laggy like Google Play Music. Neither are intolerable, but just not as fluid as their counterparts. Waze works great with data, but without data it is not as good as a regular offline GPS, and it can be a little slower. Here WeGo (formerly Here Maps) is pretty quick, and looks good. Joying gives you a copy of iGo, and it is hands down the most fluid and works the fastest. At first i didn't like the Interface of iGo, but now it is growing on me, and i tend to use it the most.
Calls you have to use the built in Bluetooth. It works fine, I can hear people fine, and they can hear me fine. The only caveat is for some reason it routes all the audio to one speaker, the front passenger. So I can hear people fine, but they only come out of one speaker and have a mono sound. I have not had any complaints about how I sound when I use the Joying provided external microphone.
The only extra thing I use is a calendar app. That way it syncs with my phone calendar and I can use the location field to link to GPS. So if I have an appointment at the doctor. I pull up my calendar, click the location and it goes right to Google Maps to guide me there.
I love mine, best car radio I have ever had. However, I did research these for a year, and I more or less knew what I was getting into.
I only plan to use GPS, and a music player, and occasionally FM stereo. So, I'm ok with not having a flagship phone. I also like to connect via Bluetooth for incoming alerts and such. Do you know if you receive incoming alerts when you are listening to music? For instance, with my 430 factory stereo, if I am connected via Bluetooth but listening to music from the HDD and I get an email or whatever, nothing comes across the stereo. I have to switch from HDD to AUX in order for anything to come from the phone to the stereo. That, to me, is junk.
One more question, I think, on this Joying unit. About the display. It's only 800x480 resolution. Does that cause any problems? I've read some places where even Google Maps doesn't display very well with that resolution. What is your experience?
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I also like to connect via Bluetooth for incoming alerts and such. Do you know if you receive incoming alerts when you are listening to music? For instance, with my 430 factory stereo, if I am connected via Bluetooth but listening to music from the HDD and I get an email or whatever, nothing comes across the stereo. I have to switch from HDD to AUX in order for anything to come from the phone to the stereo. That, to me, is junk.
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I would think not. I am not sure any of my vehicles do that. Although I do leave my phone on vibrate 100% of the time. Most cars will give you phone calls or SMS, but I dont know that I got an alert for email or anything from my Cadillac, 300, or Jeep?
The Joying does NOT do SMS. All you get is phone calls. It will ring and the name/number shows up on the screen. You can access your full phone book. But you do not get any access to text messages.
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One more question, I think, on this Joying unit. About the display. It's only 800x480 resolution. Does that cause any problems? I've read some places where even Google Maps doesn't display very well with that resolution. What is your experience?
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I too was worried about those specs when reading all about these, but mine looks fine. The Malaysk ROM on here makes the DPI different or something to make it look better, but either way was fine. Those specs wouldn't work for a 55 inch tv, but it is fine for a 6.2 inch screen
A picture of a screen doesn't translate well, but you get the general idea:
Google Maps
Waze
Spotify
Pandora
Looks good enough for me.
Thank you for all your input. I think I'm gonna get one and see if it works in my T&C.
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Looks good enough for me.
Thank you for all your input. I think I'm gonna get one and see if it works in my T&C.
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I want to thank you both for posting this. I have a 15 T&C with the 430, and have never liked it. I have been looking at these Android Head units since I got it. Lepricon please let me know how it works for you. I especially want to know if it runs the kids TV in the back ok. Thanks again.
Dreusi said:
I want to thank you both for posting this. I have a 15 T&C with the 430, and have never liked it. I have been looking at these Android Head units since I got it. Lepricon please let me know how it works for you. I especially want to know if it runs the kids TV in the back ok. Thanks again.
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My jeep doesn't have a video system in the back, but I have read a lot about these units.
Rear TV should work, but only for the DVD player i think. I dont think you can fire up Netflix on the Joying and have it show on the TV in the back
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I want to thank you both for posting this. I have a 15 T&C with the 430, and have never liked it. I have been looking at these Android Head units since I got it. Lepricon please let me know how it works for you. I especially want to know if it runs the kids TV in the back ok. Thanks again.
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I should be getting mine tomorrow. If it's just plug and play then I expect I'll have it installed and working by afternoon.
I don't use the video player at all, so I won't be much help there. But I'll let you know about pretty well everything else.
Mike,
Got my unit in today. Thank you for the recommendation. So far I really like it. With the bezel installed it looks factory. I'll try to get a picture uploaded tomorrow. Really looks good though.
Install went ok. I mean, I get sound and the steering wheel controls work. There are 2 connectors on the harness and 3 on my van. However, only only one of the connectors from the van matched up to the stereo. So not sure what's going on as all 3 from the van were plugged into the 430. Also, I got the antenna to plug in, but there is another plug that looks the same and has no where to plug into the stereo. I assume it is the one for the serius radio.
But, everything seems to work, except the backup camera so I assume it's one of those connectors that didn't fit.
I've emailed Joying, just waiting for a response.
Update:
Joying says that their head units do not support the factory backup camera. They say I have to install their camera.
For now I'm gonna look for the wiring diagram to see if I can just splice into the camera wire. If not I'll be returning the unit. The backup camera was the main feature I was looking for when I bought the van.
you would have to post some pics. My camera works great, but mine is aftermarket. My Jeep had 2 gray plugs, one white, and one yellow.
Big gray was the wiring harness, should connect to Joying
little gray was Uconnect, not used with Joying
White is the radio antenna - should connect to Joying
Yellow is combo GPS and Sirius. you can't use Sirius, but I bought an adapter to make my GPS from Jeep work. You could always use Joying's GPS as well, I just figured the Jeep one would be better.
I had the Brandmotion aftermarket backup camera. It plugged into the 430N with one of the large gray plugs, but I could disconnect the large gray part and there was a regular RCA left and it plugged into the Joying and works great. Not sure how the factory works though
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Update:
Joying says that their head units do not support the factory backup camera. They say I have to install their camera.
For now I'm gonna look for the wiring diagram to see if I can just splice into the camera wire. If not I'll be returning the unit. The backup camera was the main feature I was looking for when I bought the van.
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Thanks for the update. I saw some other posts talking about the the backup camera I think, but it was months ago. If I find them again I will update you. Would love to see the pics.
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Thanks for the update. I saw some other posts talking about the the backup camera I think, but it was months ago. If I find them again I will update you. Would love to see the pics.
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Here is one talking about how to do it.
well, I am a new user and can't post a link, but it is at
Jeep garage . org / f155 / jeep-backup-camera-w-aftermarket-headunit-55252.html
I hope that helps
Ok, I just ordered this adapter
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-C3LLCFgVJvD/p_120CHRYSAV/Metra-CHRYSAV.html
I spoke with the manufacturer, Metra, and they assured me it will give me my stock backup camera back. I should have it by Thursday so I'll let y'all know if it works.
Cadillac Mike, what adapter did you get that lets you use the jeep gps/serius antenna with the Joying unit?
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I'm updating this post so as to provide an overview of what is discussed in the thread (and in hopes that people will quit asking the same questions over and over that have already been answered).
There is a ton of great information in the wiki here. Please read through it before asking questions here - this thread has gotten very, very (very) long and it's tough to keep up with what's happening when people keep asking questions that are in the wiki.
The below info is from November; current info is in the wiki.
WHAT IS IT: The Newsmy Carpad NU3001 is a dual-DIN Android head unit that runs KitKat 4.4.2, has a 7-inch screen, and no physical controls. It's nice-looking, very well made, and comes rooted out of the box. The manufacturer seems to be quite responsive to bug reports and feature requests, releasing frequent ROM and MCU updates to fix problems and usability issues. Oh, and we have full source code.
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MAJOR FEATURES:
Quad-core 1.6GHz Rockchip RK3188 CPU and 1GB RAM
FM radio (RDS currently not working, awaiting a software update, priusfan figured out how to hack station names if you really must)
8GB Flash
Android Box that contains CPU and most of the Android guts connected via cable that can be unplugged and removed from the car
Built-in Wifi
1024x600 Capacitive Screen
Dual Bluetooth: one is standard Android BT for use with ODB etc. The second is hard-wired to the phone app and only works for phone calls and streaming music.
Pure Android, no fugly launchers, minimal other apps that aren't bad.
4x25W amplifier
WHERE TO BUY: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/News...eral-Android-only-without-DVD/2035002543.html COST USD$339. People are reporting various delivery times, mine shipped next day and arrived a week later. Note: this is the actual manufacturer on AliExpress, other pages are resellers. Do with that what you will. There is a dealer in Spain if you'd prefer to buy from Europe, it's 417€ plus shipping with VAT included. http://exclusivecarauto.com/android-quadcore-carpad-wifi-p-1001.html
BASIC Q&A:
Is it any good? Yes, it seems to be stable and work as expected
Is there a version for my car? No. It's only a universal 2-DIN package
But I saw one for a... No, you didn't. That's a Windows CE/Android frankestein thing made by the same company. You don't want it.
Does it work with Torque? Yes.
Does it work with my SWC? Supposedly, nobody has tried it yet. There is both CAN bus and resistive connections.
Can I talk on the phone and use Torque at the same time? Yes.
Can it be rooted? It comes rooted out of the box.
What ports does it have? USB Host, USB OTG, little bitty HDMI for when you take the Android Box out of your car and hook it to a TV
What connections does it have for my car? 4 channel high-power speakers, FM antenna, 1 set of line outs, 1 set of line ins, 3 composite video ins, CAN bus low and high (confusingly labeled + and -) and the usual complement of battery, acc, ground, dash lights, reverse switch, etc.
Does it run ....? Yes, think of it as a 7-inch tablet with built-in amp and radio that looks great in your dash.
AliExpress? Yes. It's like the Chinese eBay. Buying from them is not complicated. Summer, the girl who handles orders, is responsive and helpful.
HELPFUL LINKS:
New custom ROM from user red13dotnet de-chinese-afies the unit, fixes root, adds some useful utilities, and a bunch of other stuff http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...smy-carpad-t2865525/post56381346#post56381346
Full source code to the current firmware was found, um, on the internet. We're going to have lots of fun with this device. Mirror here, careful it's over 4GB. ftp://nu3001.ddns.net/
Software to fix problems some have reported with root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56296349&postcount=292
Unboxing http://imgur.com/a/ECRtE
Android Box teardown http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56237758&postcount=245
Firmware and utility repository http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56227326&postcount=242 (note there is no reason at the moment to update the firmware)
Video walkthrough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC8_jyVUErE
Video of software update process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVZXn9n3LM
CAVEATS:
There are no balance or fader controls, no equalizer, etc. You get 25 watts to 4 speakers and a single line out to hook up your subs or amps or whatever. Fixed in firmware 1.0.9
RDS doesn't work at the moment, they say a software update is in the works.
The microphone input is hard-wired to the phone-specific BT module. This means among other things that you cannot use Google Now voice control with this unit until we figure out how to connect a mic to it. There is plenty of USB connectivity, so it's only a matter of time. USB microphone works, including "OK Google". http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56386685&postcount=359
OTHER INTERESTING THINGS:
There are extra wires in the AV harness that are for old-school steering wheel keys that use a resistive matrix. It ought to be possible to hook up all sorts of buttons and controls in a car for various stuff. The MCU is aware of these.
It sounds really good.
Screen is bright and crisp.
Using the Android box with your TV requires a DC adapter that is not included and nobody knows what the specs are. It's 5V DC, appears chargers from old Nokia phones with the teeny tiny plug will work
I'll try to keep this post updated but it's my busy season at work so don't have a lot of time.
Here's the original post that started it all:
I've been wanting to buy a H/U for a while now but nobody makes one of the Huifei ones for my Saab 9-3, and the universal ones are so gaudy and fugly that I've just kept searching, hoping to find something better looking. Today I came across this Italian guy on eBay, selling a very attractive universal double DIN with Kitkat. The one he's selling is a dual Android/WinCE unit (not interested) and claims to have both an 8-inch and 10.2-inch screen, so not really trustworthy.
BUT. I did a reverse image search on all the stuff he copy/pasted in the wrong aspect ratio and came up with a different model from Newsmy which claims to have a quad core A9 @ 1.6Ghz and be pure Android 4.4.2 with no WinCE.
Other stuff:
- Works with steering wheel controls
- 7" display @ 1024x600
- NO optical drive
- Dual bluetooth (one standard BC5 for the phone, one for OBD).
- Good TDA7851 amplifier (28Wx4)
- All the usual crap like car DVR, TV, etc.
- Screenshot shows a stock launcher, no sign of any UI that looks like it's from an 80's sci-fi movie.
- I am aware that it appears to be a cheap tablet stuck to the front of a 2-DIN chassis
- No line outs that I can see, one of the sockets on the back is labled AV IN and looks to have a lot of pins, and another that seems to be a firewire port labeled Key Accessory Interface. No idea.
The only way to buy one seems to be either for USD$299 through a reseller on Aliexpress, whose listing is mostly incomprehensible, or direct from Newsmy on EC21 for USD$200. I have no experience with either site.
I guess I'm going to roll the dice and see if I can get one of these shipped to me and find out if it's any good.
ETA: found a ton of pictures; apparently you can pull the front panel off and connect it to your TV via HDMI.
EATA: not allowed to post links so you'll have to Google I guess.
did you find any news about this carpad?
What are the pros nd cons to use a HU with android and winCE?
Is there a reason why to use winCE instead of a Pure android HU?
jindoseg said:
What are the pros nd cons to use a HU with android and winCE?
Is there a reason why to use winCE instead of a Pure android HU?
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Pure Android HUs have to cold boot each time the car is turned on (I don't understand this, certainly a tablet with a battery in airplane mode could last for many days without affecting the battery of a car, so I don't get why a HU can't be left in this state vs completely shut down) and startup time is way too long. The WinCE units are set up that way because they actually run Android in a virtual machine on CE and just suspend the VM when the HU is powered off. CE can start up in a couple of seconds and so your time to operation of Android is a fraction of cold booting every time. This sounds like a mess to me and I'm really only interested in a pure Android HU. From what I understand the Chinese companies have engineers working overtime to reduce Android boot time and some have it down into the 15-second range.
N.b., I've been unable to buy the one mentioned in the original post. Both websites are broken and companies don't responde to mail.
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Pure Android HUs have to cold boot each time the car is turned on (I don't understand this, certainly a tablet with a battery in airplane mode could last for many days without affecting the battery of a car, so I don't get why a HU can't be left in this state vs completely shut down) and startup time is way too long. The WinCE units are set up that way because they actually run Android in a virtual machine on CE and just suspend the VM when the HU is powered off. CE can start up in a couple of seconds and so your time to operation of Android is a fraction of cold booting every time. This sounds like a mess to me and I'm really only interested in a pure Android HU. From what I understand the Chinese companies have engineers working overtime to reduce Android boot time and some have it down into the 15-second range.
N.b., I've been unable to buy the one mentioned in the original post. Both websites are broken and companies don't responde to mail.
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Thank you for your reply.
Thats a big disadvantage of the NU3001 and what about the DT2001S-H-H?
both are android 4.4 but the DT2001S has 2gb ddr3 + Wince
I'm curious
I would like to know more about this head unit. Mostly is it reliable and how does it look in person. Does anyone have this yet?
Thanks,
Brett
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I've been wanting to buy a H/U for a while now but nobody makes one of the Huifei ones for my Saab 9-3, and the universal ones are so gaudy and fugly that I've just kept searching, hoping to find something better looking. Today I came across this Italian guy on eBay, selling a very attractive universal double DIN with Kitkat. The one he's selling is a dual Android/WinCE unit (not interested) and claims to have both an 8-inch and 10.2-inch screen, so not really trustworthy.
BUT. I did a reverse image search on all the stuff he copy/pasted in the wrong aspect ratio and came up with a different model from Newsmy which claims to have a quad core A9 @ 1.6Ghz and be pure Android 4.4.2 with no WinCE.
Other stuff:
- Works with steering wheel controls
- 7" display @ 1024x600
- NO optical drive
- Dual bluetooth (one standard BC5 for the phone, one for OBD).
- Good TDA7851 amplifier (28Wx4)
- All the usual crap like car DVR, TV, etc.
- Screenshot shows a stock launcher, no sign of any UI that looks like it's from an 80's sci-fi movie.
- I am aware that it appears to be a cheap tablet stuck to the front of a 2-DIN chassis
- No line outs that I can see, one of the sockets on the back is labled AV IN and looks to have a lot of pins, and another that seems to be a firewire port labeled Key Accessory Interface. No idea.
The only way to buy one seems to be either for USD$299 through a reseller on Aliexpress, whose listing is mostly incomprehensible, or direct from Newsmy on EC21 for USD$200. I have no experience with either site.
I guess I'm going to roll the dice and see if I can get one of these shipped to me and find out if it's any good.
ETA: found a ton of pictures; apparently you can pull the front panel off and connect it to your TV via HDMI.
EATA: not allowed to post links so you'll have to Google I guess.
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Did you ever get this head unit?
Anybody tried this?
makkan00 said:
Anybody tried this?
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I think I might give it a try soon. It would be nice to hear from someone who already has it.
Really interesting Thank you for this Information!!
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I think I might give it a try soon. It would be nice to hear from someone who already has it.
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Let us know how you get on.
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Let us know how you get on.
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I'm still waiting to hear back from EC21. Has anyone ever bought from them before?
any news on this carpad?
Marco
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any news on this carpad?
Marco
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Nope. Im a littlr nervous to biy with such little info on it.
I'm ordering one direct from Newsmy right now on Aliexpress. We've been exchanging messages for two days trying to make sure their canbus adapter works in my car. Hopefully I'll have it soon.
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I'm ordering one direct from Newsmy right now on Aliexpress. We've been exchanging messages for two days trying to make sure their canbus adapter works in my car. Hopefully I'll have it soon.
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Sweet. I guess you're braver than me. Do you have any idea how long till you get it?
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Were you able to get any info about subwoofer connections? My car has a factory sub and I couldn't find how you would tie it in. The seller told me it is connected through a "voice output cable". Do you know what that means?
It seems like a pretty nice unit from specs. It's the reliability that concerns me the most -- with no online reviews to be found. I am also a little concerned about that touchscreen volume control. Seems like it could be a PITA.
thanks for sharing.
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I'm ordering one direct from Newsmy right now on Aliexpress. We've been exchanging messages for two days trying to make sure their canbus adapter works in my car. Hopefully I'll have it soon.
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Which car you own. I am looking for a solution to my Skoda Yeti 2013. I had a chineese WinCE unit from the local dealer but I have returned it as the FM receiver was super crappy and the BT hands free worked only half of the time.
The issue still open for me is the quality of the FM radio although one can use the Android H/W to listen to radio through the internet. Not sure how fast would that change stations.
I was looking the Mistui FM receivers but I am not sure what is the exact model and thus that is the sensitivity.
Some Mistui receivers are pretty good ones.
All solutions that are not original VW do not have any support the the dual antenna with the built in diversity control. On the other hand most of the cards do not have such an implementation and radio still works fine.
yes. That's another concern of mine -- radio reception. Seems like it should be the simplest part, but I am constantly hearing about poor radios on these units.
Well, it's ordered. I opted for the 3-day SHL shipping and then noticed after I had paid them that "processing time" is 30 days.
The whole thing stinks like a scam, but I guess we'll see. It'll either be here in a week or in five weeks.
I just noticed that the aliexpress add says this: "Newsmy android 4.4 quad core car dvd 7 inch for univeral Android only (without DVD, bluetooth,NU3001)" Do you think that means that it doesn't have bluetooth? Surely not.
Also it looks to me like the guaranteed delivery time is 30 days. I bet you'll get it much quicker than that if you chose DHL.
Hello, I've recently purchased a new head unit from Pumpkin (RQ0253) and was wondering if anyone else had experience with this unit in terms of custom roms/rooting? I'm looking to possibly install a Malaysk rom. Any advice is appreciated. Specs below:
OS: Android 4.4 Kit Kat
CPU: RK3188 Cortex A9 Quad Core 1.6GHz
RAM: DDR3 2GB
Screen Resolution: 1024*600
MCU: 5703-20160222-135414-V01
Hi!
If i'm right you're talking about this device: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-universal-7-inch-1024-600-touchscreen-quad-core-android-4-4-head-unit-2-din-with-2gb-ram-32gb-nand-memory-support-screen-lock-av-output-gps-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
I'm wondering how is the audio quality of this device?
Thank you
I regret going with Pumpkin over Joying. Just letting you know.
Joying is already updating units to Android 5 while Pumpkin still hasn't.
zzEvilGeniuszz said:
I regret going with Pumpkin over Joying. Just letting you know.
Joying is already updating units to Android 5 while Pumpkin still hasn't.
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Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
dima_vy said:
Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
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I've the new with Parrot-BT. It is as bad as other units. Reason is simple, they still connect front and external mics in parallel.
Weather widget stopped working. They are still struggling to get a new one. Remember Pumpkin is just a reseller.
halloj said:
I've the new with Parrot-BT. It is as bad as other units. Reason is simple, they still connect front and external mics in parallel.
Weather widget stopped working. They are still struggling to get a new one. Remember Pumpkin is just a reseller.
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Thank you for the info!
What exact model do you have?
Thanx
BR
dima_vy said:
Thank you for the info!
What exact model do you have?
Thanx
BR
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So this is the unit: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
But if it's only these 2 bad things - microphones and weather widget? Is there no possibility to disable the internal microphone? You unit has only 1GB of RAM. Don't you think that the unit with 2GB of RAM will work better?
How is the quality of the music you play via this unit?
I'm asking all these question because i'd like to buy the HU such Clarion or Pioneer, but there is no such unit which will be Android base Like there are Sony TV for example, working on Android
dima_vy said:
So this is the unit: http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
But if it's only these 2 bad things - microphones and weather widget? Is there no possibility to disable the internal microphone? You unit has only 1GB of RAM. Don't you think that the unit with 2GB of RAM will work better?
How is the quality of the music you play via this unit?
I'm asking all these question because i'd like to buy the HU such Clarion or Pioneer, but there is no such unit which will be Android base Like there are Sony TV for example, working on Android
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Well, I've other units with 2 GB I can't find any difference. Go ahead and buy the Pioneer which has similar to android auto and you can run all your
apps from the phone. The only problem for me is that it's too expensive.
Sounds like all the rest, no high fidelity that's for sure. The only way to get all these units fair is to perform the mods. BT-mod and sound mod. You say, bad BT only.
Well if you can't use it in your car it's worthless. I've tried all the different ways, only front, only external, only front modified with external mic and so on. No improvement compared to the BT-mod.
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Well, I've other units with 2 GB I can't find any difference. Go ahead and buy the Pioneer which has similar to android auto and you can run all your
apps from the phone. The only problem for me is that it's too expensive.
Sounds like all the rest, no high fidelity that's for sure. The only way to get all these units fair is to perform the mods. BT-mod and sound mod. You say, bad BT only.
Well if you can't use it in your car it's worthless. I've tried all the different ways, only front, only external, only front modified with external mic and so on. No improvement compared to the BT-mod.
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Pioneer doesn't have android unit. The only way is to connect the phone with the cable, and i hate cables in the car Regarding the BT - yep, sounds like a problem...
dima_vy said:
Thank you for reply
but what Pumpkin unit do you have? Do you like audio quality? What about handsfree quality? How does unit work with navigation apps, phone calls and internet radio apps?
Thank you
BR
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If you want my brutally honest opinion, don't buy a Chinese Android head unit. Spend a little more for something else.
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If you want my brutally honest opinion, don't buy a Chinese Android head unit. Spend a little more for something else.
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I'd like☺, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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I'd like, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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I thought the same way until I actually spent the money for one. They are not reliable. The Android OS on them are dinosaurs. Constant crashes. If you do not upload a custom rom the crashes will only get worse.
My advice, get the pioneer Android auto unit (dont know exact model) and have it mirror your phone. Then run waze and whatever off your phone instead.
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I'd like, but i want to get unit, that can can run Waze and Internet radio. Till now I didn't find such unit... For some reason well known companies don't use android in audio devices... Any ideas?
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Well, Blaupunkt does.
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Well, Blaupunkt does.
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Thanx! Looks interesting, but as i see i doesn't have google apps, so there is a problem to install applications... At list out of the box... I think that better way is to wait till someone else will start with Android based device. like Sony doing with TV...
did anyone ever get the Pumpkin 12-RQ0253-US-A ? it's one of the few I see with 2 gigs of RAM
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did anyone ever get the Pumpkin 12-RQ0253-US-A ? it's one of the few I see with 2 gigs of RAM
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I got this head from Ali (I cannot post links yet, you can find it by "RQ0253+Y0801" keyword) and installed it a few days ago. Works fine, but it doesn't have a bluetooth host - you cannot connect bluetooth devices to it. You only can pair media bluetooth from your phone and cast calls and music to the head. This is pretty disappointing. I wouldn't order this head if knew that before. Haven't installed rear camera yet, maybe there are more surprises awaiting.
Sound quality is OK to me (I'm not an audiophile), a device is pretty responsive. 32G is plenty of space for apps, plus 2 SD cards for music, plus 2 (potentially, 3) usb ports.
I will post more feedback when test it closer.
Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions.
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I got this head from Ali (I cannot post links yet, you can find it by "RQ0253+Y0801" keyword) and installed it a few days ago. Works fine, but it doesn't have a bluetooth host - you cannot connect bluetooth devices to it. You only can pair media bluetooth from your phone and cast calls and music to the head. This is pretty disappointing. I wouldn't order this head if knew that before. Haven't installed rear camera yet, maybe there are more surprises awaiting.
Sound quality is OK to me (I'm not an audiophile), a device is pretty responsive. 32G is plenty of space for apps, plus 2 SD cards for music, plus 2 (potentially, 3) usb ports.
I will post more feedback when test it closer.
Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions.
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i would like to see pics if you get the chance
I got this unit, too. I flashed joying update file and now it doesn't get pass the android logo. On top that, when I boot into recovery, unable to load. I'm sending this unit back and will be getting Carjoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBuOQByUfTI
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Okay, some impressions:
Pros:
- Device is fast. It lags a bit only during software update, as any android does
- Screen is bright. Map and navigation are clearly visible under direct sunlight right into the screen.
- Surprisingly usable pre-installed offline navigation (iGO). Interface is ugly, but in general it is ok
- 32 gig is a lot of space. SD card is needed only for music
- Sound via bluetooth is good
Cons:
- Bluetooth is limited by regular speakers/headset. I cannot connect any device to the head unit, I can only cast music and phone calls from my phone and that's all. Android just doesn't see any bluetooth adapter in the system. I can make calls using special application, sound from the phone just play when it's connected. Only one phone can be connected at the same time.
- Internal sound is very bad. I'm not an audiophile, but I've tried to play the same song from the soundcloud app from my phone via bluetooth and then from the head directly. I will probably never play music from the head unit, it is awful. Same for music from files on flash drives/sd card
- Screen frame is quite high, so I can't see some google maps interface elements (miles to next turn, top left corner)
- There's 2 mm gap between the unit and my Nissan's dash cover in the bottom. I will handle this later.
- Bad screen sensitivity in the lower part of the screen, some Ok/Cancel buttons are not responsive while installing software. Maybe, because of android lags. In the maps application touchscreen works fine everywhere.
- Android 4.4 interface is ugly to me. I'd prefer 5.
Conclusion: DO NOT BUY IT, unless you know what you are doing. Limited bluetooth looks a deal breaker to me. None of my 2 bluetooth adapters worked with the android. And without full-featured bluetooth I can't connect OBD2 and set up screen mirroring.
I'll try to send it back, but it might be too expensive and not worth it. Anyway, I keep searching for unit with good sound and full featured bluetooth (and bigger screen resolution, but I haven't seen such units so far)
I haven't attached rear camera yet. I will update this post as soon as I do.
Some pics I made (There's more of them, but I cannot attach links yet, you can add this to photos.google.com, sorry for inconvenience /share/AF1QipMkaPjBvN0gqef5SaFPDg6Br1xbnD1f1sstcIQLxlawDkqPAKsWE5ZQ3tJ1b-0F0g?key=M2NJd3FDQTFIMnBfRGF5c05RUEt3bXdKZGlMRzhn):
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Summary in case the link dies, it is a 2013/14/15 Altima specific radio, but the underlying hardware seems fairly generic. Similar units are available for a number of different car makes and models.
If you are considering an Android head unit for your car, you must first read these links.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Generic_Android_Head_Unit/MCU_Explained
Note that the links below go back to head unit designs that were available a few years ago and much of the comments and problems do not apply to current hardware.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Hui_Fei_Type
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662
I like that it has a full 8" screen but also has buttons and knobs which integrate very well with the car's dash and make use in a car much easier and safer (touchscreen-only controls in a car is a safety hazard).
The price was very attractive and I was able to separately buy a PX5 core board (4GB/32GB) for ~$100 (not received yet) so I will have options in case the PX3 CPU is too slow.
The unit appears well made. I have been running it on the bench for about a day and most everything I tried seems to work as expected (caveats below).
The LCD is good, with very wide viewing angle (one of my concerns), the resolution adequate (interestingly, the 1000x600 screen is much better than the pokey 480pixel units on the $600 Pioneer unit I checked at Best Buy), the touch screen is very responsive.
One strange issue is that it takes A LONG TIME to download anything. The web browser (Chrome) works well, but downloading apps from the Play Store takes forever, even though if you are patient, they eventually complete. I have read in another thread that it may be due to insufficient cache space. Whatever the cause, it is irritating, but it is not something you do too often (aside from initial setup,) so it's not a deal breaker. I will report if the PX5 coreboard improves on that when I get it.
Aside from the downloading slowdowns, the unit seems to handle multitasking properly. I was concerned about the Px3/2GB RAM set being underpowered (which is why I bought the PX5 coreboard) but it seems quite usable as is. I suspect that earlier units with 1GB RAM do not fare as well.
Now some random observations:
The radio app works but the UI could use improvements. There does not seem to be a way to name the stations once they are memorized. They take the name of whatever is streaming out of the RDS system, so most stations I saved are named from the song they were playing at the time...
Navigation uses the iGo app with naviextras.com maps. The maps appear to be several years old. There is a particular issue in my street that has been fixed just about everywhere (Google maps and the various GPS nav units I have had my hands on) at least 3 years ago but it is still there on these maps. Not sure how to upgrade the maps since the radio is not registered on the naviextras.com web site. I have placed a question in the customer service area of their web site. They want a zipped copy of the license folder. I have found the folder but not managed to do that yet.
The music player is also adequate. I have not found how to transfer music from the thumb drive to the radio itself using the stock FileBrowser app . That will probably require a separate file manager app of some sort. There is an equalizer with separate sub setting. Interestingly, I have been using the radio with a set of inexpensive Harman Kardon computer speakers (using the RCA output connectors, not the speaker outputs) and the sound is pretty great with the equalizer set to flat. The noise level is extremely low (I am using a well regulated power supply, I will update once the radio is in the car with engine running.)
The radio does not shut down when "powered down", it just goes to sleep. Current consumption in sleep mode is very low (I measured 15mA.) I turned it off last night before going to bed, expecting it would take the ~20 seconds to boot this morning. To my surprise, the radio turned on as soon as I pressed the power button. This is even faster than my Altima's OEM radio! A pleasant surprise.
I bought the radio with a separate Bluetooth ODB scanner from the same vendor as it is advertised as supporting it. The Torque app is installed in the radio, so it seems it is ready to go (I have seen some older Android head units that could not access Bluetooth OBD dongles.) I have not tried it yet.
I connected the radio to my Android phone via Bluetooth last night but did not do anything else then. This morning, while eating breakfast with the radio playing music, the phone rings in the radio and I heard a voice mail from DHL advising me of the impending delivery of the coreboard. So I guess the phone link works too Interestingly the phone was a good distance from the radio (I have a big house) so Bluetooth range is plenty, much more than adequate.
I was reluctant to log into the radio with my main Google account (since it would be easy for anyone breaking into the car to have access to all my Google information, stored passwords and such, so I created a second account with simply the few phone numbers I am likely to want to call from the car and used that to log into the radio.
I have not been able to place a call directly from the radio via voice command or otherwise. I was able to make it read my phonebook from the Android 5.1 handset, so when I ask the radio to call my wife, it properly finds the number and it displays a green handset saying it is calling, but nothing is happening on the phone. A problem that I need to resolve before putting the radio in the car. Note: I also have a Bluetooth headset for my motorcycle helmet and I have no issue calling any number of the phonebook through that, so the issue is not with the phone.
When a call comes in, the phone app opens up and everything works pretty much as expected. Sound is pretty good on both ends. However, the phone app has a row of buttons at the bottom of the screen and some are semi-transparent while others are opaque, so depending on what app was running, those semi-transparent buttons are not legible. This is very strange. When the call was over, the radio which was running did not turn back on (but when I got the voice mail from DHL earlier, the radio turned back on after the call.)
Overall I am quite pleased. I have a couple of bugs to fix before I install the radio in the car. I will report then how that went.
Edit: The MCU version in that unit is MTCE_KGL_V2.70_2, Oct 22 2017
Update:
Attempted to install the head unit in my car today. Removing the trim parts, swapping the bracket between the old radio and the new one was fairly easy. The mechanical parts match well with the mounting holes and the look of the head unit matches the rest of the dash very well.
There are two small connectors that were plugged into the old unit that do not have a match with the harness that came with the new head unit. I suspect it is the XM antenna and the USB socket, so I plugged the connectors that did have a match to the harness, reinstalled the radio temporarily and turned it on.
The unit came up but no sound.
The small LCD display at the center of the dash (between speedo and tach) said "Audio is off" and indeed, nothing came from the speakers. I suspect the Bose amplifier is not getting the signal to turn ON. The cable harness that came with the head unit has an open wire labelled "AMP CON" going out (to the car's wiring) which I assume is for Amplifier Control that needs to be connected to 12V to turn the amplifier on. I need to try that.
All the steering wheel controls did work and operated as expected, so that was good news, but no audio is of course a bummer.
My car has the Bose audio system and I have read that these are not typically compatible with generic head units without some rewiring or an adapter, so unless I can find something on the internet in the next couple of days, I will take the car and the radio to the local installer and ask them if they can make it work. I am not sure what is the solution with the backup camera. I would really prefer to keep the original camera and I can't imagine it would be very hard to make it work. For now, it is back with the original audio system.
Here is more info about Bose audio systems: (can't post links so Google "understanding-factory-bose-system" which will point you to altimaforums dot net)
Edit: I found the blue connector that had no match on my harness goes to the USB socket and Crutchfield has an adapter (search for Metra-AX-NISUSB2-USB-Adapter-for-Nissan on the Crutchfield site, I can't post links yet). I called Crutchfield and they also do have an adapter for the Bose speakers, I ordered it with the USB adapter. They also said there is no solution to use the built-in camera, I will have to use an aftermarket one.
Edit2: Found out that the OEM backup camera is supported, the connections are there in the harness that came with the head unit, I just had to plug the right connectors together. So the only issue originally with the head unit as received was the Bose audio system support which should be fixed with the Crutchfield adapter, due next week.
Note: under the factory radio is a large white plastic box with a large multi-pin connector that has its own harness and does not seem to be directly connected or related to the head unit. It is mounted on the same bracket as the radio, so I reinstalled it in the car. I am curious what that box is for.
I received the PX5 coreboard (4GB RAM + 32GB Flash). It came with Android 6.0 compared to 7.1.2 on the PX3 board (which has 2GB RAM and 16GB Flash).
The PX5 board has a large heatsink over the CPU and memory while the PX3 board has the chips exposed. I would expect a higher current consumption.
Operation was very smooth, but since the PX3 board was already smooth, the change was just noticeable when switching from one to the other. The one major change is that downloading apps, while still not nearly as fast as it is on my phone, is considerably faster than on the PX3 board. Now it's just slow, compared to absolute molasse.
I did not time the boot time but there was no significant difference between the two, not enough to make a decision based on that. Both take 20-30 seconds and both restart immediately from sleep mode.
Android 6.0 definitely has more rough edges than 7.1.2. I particularly dislike the launcher which looks like this (this picture is not of my unit, but the same screen):
compared to the PX3 (Android 7.1.2) launcher:
I find it much easier to have the important icons at the bottom of the screen rather than on the side.
There are also fewer settings under Home->Settings.
I know I could reflash the Android version but right now, I put the PX3 coreboard back in the unit. I may keep the PX5 in case I would run out of Flash, but since the unit came with about 14GB available (out of 16), it is unlikely that I will run out (my music is on a flash card and there is also the USB port).
One observation: I have an old iPod 5th generation (the one with the 60GB hard drive, it is probably 10 years old) and neither unit recognizes it, so that is a little disappointing since it works very well as a portable music system and it works fine in the Altima's OEM head unit.
i also like that other launcher, my 7.1.2 unit didn't have that launcher
At the moment, I am looking at upgrading the Android version on the new coreboard but I will install the radio with the quad core PX3 this week end anyways.
Here are pictures of the installed unit and a little feedback after 4 months of ownership.
Short version: I love it!
Long version: I installed the radio in the car and found out there was no mechanical issue, the radio fit without having to pry or push anything and it looks great. The finish and texture of the facia and buttons perfectly matches that of the car. The only hint that this is not an OEM system is that it is way too nice
However, my car has a Bose audio system that needs to be turned on when the radio turns on and the Bose system has low level differential inputs. The radio has low level outputs on RCA connectors which do not directly interface with the differential inputs of the Bose system so I bought the audio cable adapter from Crutchfields (along with the USB cable adapter) and I took the car and radio to the local installer (I did not want to have to mess with) to have it installed the second time.
Of course, the "professional" installer connected the Bose system to the radio's speaker outputs so when I got the car, with the volume control in position 1, the level was enough for highway driving. In position 2, it was too loud. I can't believe they thought that would be OK. Anyhow, I took the car back and told them that was the reason I gave them the audio cable adapter. 2 hours later, the car was ready (again) and all is now good.
Everything is working (steering wheel controls, bluetooth, backup camera, USB connector, WiFi) and the audio sounds really great.
Navigation works well. I am not sure how I will be able to upgrade the maps. I asked the vendor and they sent me a link to a recent version of the map for the US. Not sure how long they will keep doing that. Of course, I can use the phone in hotspot mode and run Google Maps on the radio via the phone's 4G data connection, as long as there is 4G signal that is.
The nav application has the annoying habit of notifying me when I go more than 3 mph over the speed limit. It only does it once, until the speed limit changes or I turn in another street. I looked through the settings and I have not found how to turn that off. I guess one could consider that a useful reminder. In this area, most traffic goes about 15 miles over the limit so it is annoying.
I bought a Bluetooth OBD-II adapter and that works well with the Torque app to monitor engine and emission parameters.
I somehow expected the FM radio to be cheaply made and with average (or lower) performance. I am very glad to report that the FM radio works at least as well as the OEM radio. My favorite radio station is 50 miles away and with most cars, I do not get good reception everywhere in town, there are areas where the signal is barely there. This radio has not experienced a drop out yet in town. Not only that but the audio quality is actually excellent. The local public radio has outstanding sound quality and it definitely comes through on this set.
The only remaining irritation is the radio app itself. There is no way to set the name of the stations saved in memory. The radio automatically captures the RDS stream and uses the last 5 characters received as the name of the station in memory. I assume that Chinese FM radio stations only broadcast their name via RDS and it works for them. Over here (US), the RDS stream is also used to indicate the program currently playing, so the "name" of the stations in memory is useless.
The head unit came with a dual core/16GB CPU board and Android 7. I also bought a quad core/32GB CPU board but it comes with Android 6 and the launcher is not nearly as nice, so I kept the dual core card in the radio (I tried the FCC launcher and did not like it.) The dual core is fast enough, honestly the quad core was not noticeably faster and I believe 16GB will be enough since there are two micro SD sockets (one used by the maps) and two USB connectors for additional music or video storage.
Finally, a slight disappointment: my iPod will not work when plugged into the USB port. I have a lot of music on it (60GB device) but the radio apparently is limited to 32GB storage devices on USB.
Note that the screen protector is still on the LCD for the pictures above. The display is really good and usable in most conditions, unless the sun comes through the rear window directly on it, not a frequent occurrence.
Hi. Interested on your radio. Can you post the link where you bought that? Is there any way to make it to work with the stock reverse camera? Thanks
I have found how to disable the warning from the navigation system. It is much more pleasant now.
You have to go into the factory settings, password 126
Since the Altima was totaled last year, I kept the radio because it is so nice I was hoping I could find another Altima V6 to put it in, but I could not find a car I liked so I eventually bought an Acura TL therefore I just put the radio for sale on eBay.
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Hi. Interested on your radio. Can you post the link where you bought that? Is there any way to make it to work with the stock reverse camera? Thanks
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It works with the Nissan camera, I just had to connect it, simple as that. I bought it on AliExpress, here is the same unit from somebody else:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32865581547.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3b353585OJGe9o
Note that you still need to buy the Bose and USB cables to connect to the Nissan harness.
Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VHD4B23/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also have one of the Podofo 7" 1x16 android 10 2020 versions. Screen looks the same but there are more connectors on the rear. It is much faster. Noticably to the touch. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKBQ1X5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are there some better units out there right now I should be looking at?
Really want a DUAL din and able to load offline maps to if for BackCountry Navigator, Google Maps, and a couple others. Maybe use one of my external USB Drives for music videos, music, and other movies.
I just modified the dash of a Discovery 1 to fit a dual din. Now I want a large screen to fit in there to utilize the space I made.
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They are all botched/buggy in someway, but it's not easy to know who makes these units and what they are just from the reseller verbiage.
Like the previous poster says. Pretty much every android head unit has issues. Each one is a different set of issues. Nobody out there seems to be doing proper reviews on these that focus on what does and doesn't work.
I've been through four so far. Every one has issues.
So I tried to switch to a Pioneer and guess what, it has issues too. I'm disgusted with the whole car audio industry. All I want is what's on my phone to be on my dash, without having to whip my phone out of my pocket and wire it up every time I go for a drive.
Apparently that's asking too much of the industry.
Fwiw the features I need/want are:
1. Supports modern digital steering wheel controls (they all seem to only support analog SWC which nobody has)
2. Either have a proper bluetooth phone feature with voice commands and quality audio OR trigger when it detects incoming audio on the aux in from my cars built in bluetooth (currently the best option I've found is I have to tap aux in every time I receive a call)
3. Pair and STAY paired with bluetooth OBD dongle for dashboard data logging. So far not a single one has been able to do this reliably, they tend to disconnect randomly and require constant re-pairing. Best if it supports newer profiles of dongles like the OBDLink which has a faster refresh rate, but so far only one of the four I've tried does that, and it requires repairing every bootup.
4. Have a screen DPI thay doesn't freak out common apps. Some of my apps don't work because of screen DPI issues on some devices.
5. Don't randomly reboot, 2 of the 4 devices I've used have this issue.
6. "Dancing" Gps or GPS that can't get a lock. One device I used the GPS jumps around randomly, the other can't even get a signal half the time.
7. Static/noise/audio problems. One has a hiss, one had loud static when no audio was playing, and another the audio would randomly cut out.
Dunno what I'm gonna do next.
skygear said:
Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
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I'll tell ya.... I'm on my third android head unit (all Dasaita's) and I have not had one yet which produces good clean sound without a low grade white noise (the noise which you are describing). The Dasaita I have now in fact is top of the line... cost $700US and it has the same low grade white noise the rest of them do.
I love these android head units for what you describe.... large screen, good off line maps display, engine data display... yadda yadda. They make really great overall information centers, but they ALL seem to just suck for good clean sound.
At this point I'm really considering running two head units, a double din dasaita with a 10" screen for my information center, tv, videos... etc, and a smaller single din Pioneer or Kenwood for all the audio, and the bluetooth phone connection. This is the only answer that I can see if you want to run an android head unit.... and have clean sound at the same time.
I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for Environmental controls or steering wheel interface? Wherever these are originating from, they are not including all the features with them. Might put an amplifier on these and see how they perform. The audio isn't the best..
Main issue I had was the Binize keyboard wouldn't show up. I had to factory reset the device to enable it. I am beta testing Android 11 on my Note 20 Ultra 5g. Had NO issues with it until I paired it with this radio. No keyboard would show on my phone either. then the screen froze on my phone. Next, my storage corrupted/ disappeared, then reappeared and the phone reindexed everything so all my media (photos, video, etc. ) is all out of order now since it re scanned.
I'm thinking a USB drive with all the content might be the way to go. But are these really limited to just 32gb external storage? Shouldn't these be able to read ANY external storage formatted properly?
skygear said:
I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for
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The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.
Bob_Sanders said:
The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.
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Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
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skygear said:
Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
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It's not ground loop noise so ground isolators wouldn't do much. This is a low grade white noise like what you would hear from an FM radio when not on a station. Both my PX5 and PX6 have it. It's not very loud... but it's there.
Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
ivosto said:
Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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"Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice."
Neither of these are Android Auto.
I like the quick charger USB, ambient light control and IPS screen of Ownice. Plus, it does have Android Auto and CarPlay but you need to pay extra cost.
I normally don't answer these kind of topics as it is a never ending story, but maybe I or others can use it to copy around in likewise questions.
They are more or less the same when it comes to the software. They are FYT based and have support for the several versions of hardware.
But anyway, for all units be it FYT based, MTCx, TSx, AC8227, etc., etc., FIRST compare the hardware:
Check whether the screen is TFT/IPS/QLED (in increasing quality=readability). Go for nothing less than 1280x720 (1024x600 is not good enough anymore, but in the end it is up to you).
Check which FM-chip (from low to high):
TDA7786x or Philips (NXP) TEF6851 => budget chip without RDS.
TDA7708x => middle segment but good enough
Philips (NXP) TEF6686 => top FM chip
Check which audio chip (low to high):
TDA7388 -> budget, not good.
TDA7850/TDA7851: Both good. 7851 has slightly less power output with slightly less heat dissipation. Less chance of overheating. The TDA7851 has almost everywhere been replaced with the TDA7838, which should be identical in quality/performance (no idea, google around)
DSP: nowadays mostly ROHM BU32107. (Earlier ADAU chips are not so good but seem only to be used in MTCx units.)
CPU (fast to slow): UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512), SC9853i and PX6, PX5 AC8257, PX30, AC8237 and PX3.
This order is a bit discussable, but the uis7862 is definitely the fastest currently.
Memory: minimal 2GB, 4GB is fine. Some prefer 6GB but that is actually not necessary.
Now back to the FYT models you are mentioning. They are more or less comparable. It "seems" T'eyes support is better, but I leave that to the owners (Don't want to start a flame here )
ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice.
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What? Android Auto?
You are going to buy such an expensive high-power full-fledged full functional Android unit and use it as a cheap emulator for the restricted Android Auto?????
I really, really don't understand these kind of arguments. If you want to use Android Auto, for which you indeed sometimes need to pay separately, then choose a cheap unit which supports this as well.
ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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Android Auto is crap
When people think about buying these android head units I don't think they quite get the idea that these are pretty much full-on android tablets complete with their own android operating system. There really is no need to run android auto. Things like spotify.... youtube... siriusxm... etc... can be downloaded from the google playstore and run directly from the head unit itself. All you need to do is supply a wifi hotspot from your phone, or fit the head unit with its own 4g card.
Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!
ivosto said:
Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!
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I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.
Bob_Sanders said:
I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.
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Bixby is Samsung only.
You can also use Tasker/MacroDroid/Automagic/Automate/etc. to do what you do what @Bob_Sanders is doing with BixBy.
When you switch on the unit it connects via BT to your phone. That triggers MacroDroid/Tasker on your phone for that BT device (the unit) to switch on the hotspot, which the car unit on its turn then automatically connects to.
And when you switch off the car/unit, your BT connection is broken and the phone hotspot is stopped.
Works all the time for me.
Wow!
The Ownice has a HUGE array of inputs/outputs on top of the normal ones... pretty impressive
Dual sub outputs
HDMI output
Quick charge usb
two rca video outputs
Atmosphere lighting control
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