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I'm so confused.
Just got the mytouch 4g. Charged it, as it said in the book, until it was fully charged. Used it all day until it was drained and then recharged it this evening. Just looked at it now. In 5 hours since unplugging, it's down to 56%. 56!
So weird. And I barely use any apps. I made a conscious effort to keep it as clean as possible.
Help!
Hmmm alot of data is missing from your end but this is what I suggest as basic. Make your blacklight dim so it does not use alot of energy as this is the highest cause of battery drainage during actual awake time. Then disable any unwanted useless services from boot trust me there are lot and also disable them if they restarts. You can also use SetCPU taking you have OC based kernel then make profile to scale your mCPU based on max/avg/idle.
Best advice for you is don't charge the battery, get it low as 1% then do full charge and check your actual usage cycle the uptime/awake time later. Which rom are you using? OCing? if you don't need it just underclock it no need to OC just for the hell of it.
sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
brianphanz0r said:
sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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when i leave my 4G/3G/Edge idle, it burns my batteries like mad
unless he has the screen on all day, i dont see how 5 hours would burn 50% of his batteries. even without killing all his task
No I was asking you to clarify as you mean to say completely disable data when you are idle? well you can do that if you have nothing that requires access but most folks have email and other elements that does require it. But yes it would improve it but that depends on him and how/what he has setup.
Whats your uptime/awake time with full bat cycle?
JuiceDefender does that, it disables the mobile data connection when the screen is off, but you can let some apps bypass that have it on every 15minutes or so to have it sync.
I've been playing around with it, and it does improve battery life, but it's not for me though, cause it does take a good 3-8 seconds until you get the "H" or your data connection back.
LOL I was curious and searched "Juice" my 8.1gb paid app archive of market that I just cURLed few days ago and came across UltimateJuice LOL so I guess ill run it. I have so many stuff... only if I could install it and test it but its not possible as its close to 11k apps.
Theres so much that can effect the batteries on these phones. Weak signal, apps running in the background, coutless things.
These are "super phones". I keepo a data cable in my pocket, and a car charger in the car at all times. My phone basically lives on the charger. Its easier that way. I know, not the answer you were looking for, but if you want your phone to do everything it was capable of then thats something you may have to deal with. You could turn all sync off and make sure nothing is ever doing anything in the background, but then whats the point in haing such an amazing phone?
C&P response from every other battery life thread:
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The first thing to check is if your phone is being affected by the init or suspend bugs. The good news is the former has an easy fix, and the latter can be temporarily fixed by a reboot.
First, download & install Watchdog Lite from the market. Then open its preferences and check "include phone processes," "monitor phone processes," and "display all phone processes." Then just use your phone as normal. It may take a while before you get an alert from Watchdog (and maybe you never will and it ends up you have a different problem). But if you do, note the process that is the culprit.
If it is the init process, go to settings>applications>development> check "usb debugging."
If it is the suspend process, reboot the phone. It should keep it from happening again for a while.
I know the second answer isn't really an answer, but so far it's all we've got for that problem. There is more information on the 2 problems in these threads:
Init:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839935
Suspend:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872839
Good luck...I had both of the problems and my phone didn't last to dinner time. Now I get better battery life than the iphone 3GS I had before this...over a full day of moderate use.
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I'm not rooted at all. Although I gladly rooted my previous phone (3g slide) I don't want to root this phone because I don't know of any ROMs that are EXACTLY like this Sense stock ROM on here, just without the crapware (games, VVM, so on). Is there one?
Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
Battery life is all relative. Every single person will experience different battery life. The apps you have installed, the amount of time you spend on it and the time you spend on/in each app, distance from cell towers, distance from Wi-Fi sources, settings you have for every app and things like sync and what not.
I have the same problem at work (building)...poor reception = constantly reconnecting = major battery drain..
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Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
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Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
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Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want. I forgot where i saw it, but that's what I did and it works great. Also, if you ever want it back, it's not erased, just go back and enable it by typing "enable" instead of "disable" in the instructions below.
In Terminal Emulator (with root):
$"su" <enter>
#"pm list packages" <enter>
#"pm disable exact.NameOFApp.IncludingCase.SensitivityAnd.Periods" <enter>
#
You're done; it should be removed from your app drawer and everything. It will still show up in the package list, so if you want to enable it again, just pick it out of the list and follow the same directions replacing "disable" with "enable."
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want.
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I don't get the concept of "temp rooting" vs real or full rooting. Does that mean it unroots if you reboot? What's the temp part?
That's it. Temp root goes away on reboot.
HTC Glacier running CM7 #18
For awhile now, my Droid 2 has been slow - slow to launch applications, slow to respond to touch, etc. I cannot attribute it to any newly installed application. Updates, maybe, but I'd have no idea which. I had it rooted with Z4Root, but then Verizon pushed out 2.3 and the phone became so slow that it is totally unreliable. I'll receive phone calls and 25% of the time the call will go to voice mail before I can get the phone to respond. I'll try to make a call and it may be 30 or more seconds between initiating the call to when the dialer appears and dials. Data speeds are slow.
At times the phone seems to operate at almost normal speeds and then it gets slow again. I've removed root access and uninstalled applications that require root access. I've also removed many other applications that I just don't need or use.
On my SD card it says I have 6.11GB free (out of 14.83 total). For "Application Storage" it says I have 5.63 Available Space.
I can't figure out what's wrong. Are there any suggestions short of resetting the phone to factory defaults and staring over?
Thanks,
Andrew
This has happened to my phone before also (droid2 rooted stock rom).
What i did to fix the situation, was the only thing i could think of.
I just did a factory reset to froyo and my phone was fast again.
Just back up all you apps and do a factory reset, its your only real option far as i can tell.
You could try installing something like 3g watchdog to monitor your apps and see if maybe 1 of them is eating up your phones processor.
Good luck.
Far as i can tell these phones are not much different from a home pc, in that they acquire so much extra pointless bull**** during their use that it just clogs the system. Forcing a reinstall just like a home pc.
Once they are reset back to factory, their performance returns to normal along with battery life.
Just be careful not to keep putting useless apps you dont even use onto your phone, just the apps that are absolutely necessary.
Keeping to this formula keeps my phone in tip top shape, short of changing roms or major tweaking.
Sigh I guess I'll need to try the reset.
I do have Watchdog installed and the last reported 'incident' was three days ago. No help there.
Everything is backed up, so here it goes... (I'll post back once I recover.)
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I am having the same issues. I have an R2D2 stock, never rooted. Since the Gingerbread update, it has been flaky and getting worse. It is rebooting several times a day. I miss calls because the screen won't respond. Sometimes the hard keyboard won't respond and I have to manually reboot the phone to get the keyboard back. At least once, the soft keyboard wouldn't work either. I am hating Gingerbread but am at a loss on how to remove it. I'll be watching for your updates.
The gingerbread update has been reported to have several annoying as hell bugs, i never installed it for that reason alone. Besides i don't feel like loosing the ability to tether wireless, just to upgrade to a buggy version of android. Ill wait for ice cream to hit then maybe upgrade if i see something worth upgrading for. Till then its froyo, maybe try cyanogen mod 7.1
Far as going back to froyo from gingerbread, i know its been done and is fairly easy to do. Not sure how much different it is from a factory reset.
DOWNGRADING TO LOLLIPOP:: --- B151 from B331
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
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Figured the above was an important surprise for some of you... OP still valid
Hello Everyone! Im new to the whole Honor 5x thing, coming from an m8 now, and before that a nexus 6, and before that a z3 then before that an S4 and before that an HTC Evo 4G LTE... Along with some minors, LG Risio, Moto E, S5...
Im just happy to say that so far I really enjoy this phone! Within the first few days of using it on Lolipop, i was getting 1d 15h type battery life which if youve looked at the phones ive mentioned so far... Really..really..wasnt what I was used to. A Day? For sure, the htc would be at 18% getting back on the charger... and it would die at 10%... with how long id had it. But... A Day was doable.
Ive been looking for a phone for SOOooOOO long now that had good enough battery to last a day at max brightness... Tweaking kernels, and Installing various ROMS (all of them per device)... Crack Flashing, as some would say. It just became a hobby... Ive noticed many weird things about the community, to those reading... let me list them now...
1. People all of the sudden(within the last 2 years?) prefer stock android over anything, regardless of what additional features are being added... Such as battery life improvements, Multitasking improvements, theme improvements, usability improvements... People like stock android... hmmm?
2. People want to be nexus so bad they will theme other UI's to death, just to make it look like stock, generic android... hmm..
3. Battery life, while a common complaint, seems to be indifferent to how frequently people update their phones.. (note: Marshmellow EMUI has a multi core battery bug, listed on XDA under mods..) or what ROM they choose (note the most popular rom being one with significantly worse battery life than stock)
4. Security improvements are completely unnecessary to the community (note the most popular rom being one that hardly supports the fingerprint sensor)
5. No matter how many bugs (even those listed in OP) people will always flock to the latest update of android. And then subtly complain to the developer about the bugs they already know about..
Such a strange mixture of people...to be sure.
However what ive noticed here, is a complete lack of readily available information, so i am hoping some of you might be able to assist me.
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So I succeeded in downgrading my phone from MM to LP, as the battery life thing is a legit problem for me, as much as it may not be for other people. However the fingerprint sensor has been disabled, and no longer exists in the settings list... nor is it part of the startup. (confusing to be sure, you would think it would be there, and just FC when clicking on it were there to be a bug, or if the OS didnt detect the sensor or something... it should still be there yeah? If i understand how it works...
Also I cant seem to flash a B151 rom at all, being on B33...3? <- marshmellow... and im assuming at this point that means i wasnt supposed to be able to downgrade... (oops)
So i got TWRP installed (whats up with all the random errors twrp is throwing? Assuming thats normal...?) and am awaiting a BMarshmellow rom to finish... Which leads me to...
Where are the Emui ROMS? Unless its closed... but if this rom maker can do it... ?
and also, is the fix to the battery life on marshmello noticable to those of you who also care about battery life at all?
Marshmallow battery is really bad compared to lollipop.. we had a BIG.little concept that worked great. But Huawei decided to make it a 8 Core CPU even when idle. If someone could make a kernal that activates the 4 BIG cores only when needed it would be approciated! Stock it runs almost always with 8 cores and the highest freq. This phone is really let down by poor software..
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Marshmallow battery is really bad compared to lollipop.. we had a BIG.little concept that worked great. But Huawei decided to make it a 8 Core CPU even when idle. If someone could make a kernal that activates the 4 BIG cores only when needed it would be approciated! Stock it runs almost always with 8 cores and the highest freq. This phone is really let down by poor software..
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Well there is a fix for it in the mods section that fixes battery. Finally got this phone back to functional lol..
Anyway, the fix for the moment anyway looks like it works, just has to be redone every reboot but really isn't that hard. After applying mincores mincpu 0 the big cores only light up when necessary. So far its helping a lot with battery life at least noticeably. Listented to music the whole way to work this morning and was still at 97% when I got there (I have an hour drive) , and that's using Youtube Music over 4g.. Not too shabby.
Yesterday I got to work doing the same thing on marshmallow at about 85-90 so it is doing something, and watching Kernel Auditor shows the big cores turning off when not in use. Worth checking out, applying the settings that are mentioned there don't do much im afraid, as I cant get them to stick through a reboot yet.
Currently writing an init.d script to make that happen every boot.
For now to my knowledge though it is working. Though I think lollipop was for sure better apps on screen off actually worked properly -_-; which im noticing more and more it doesn't anymore. Its more like a Doze control which is annoying because Doze is not near as good as stock lollipop control. I cant seem to revert back to lollipop and keep the fingerprint sensor though, if anyone figures that out please let me know!
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I cant seem to revert back to lollipop and keep the fingerprint sensor though, if anyone figures that out please let me know! Id much rather downgrade than continue to fix marshmallow.
Though for those of you wondering, Viper|Atmos//Sony Beats the audio mod works perfectly on this phone
Just finished Init.d for Mincpus to fix the whole Big Little problem Super good stuff. Phone now booting in the big little mode you were talking about. super easy stuff.
Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
I also lost fingerprint when going back to lollipop. I'll let you know if i come up with any fixes for it.
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I also lost fingerprint when going back to lollipop. I'll let you know if i come up with any fixes for it.
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U need the firmware had same.. revert though dload
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Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
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So Dload for lollipop will revert back from Marshmallow and keep fingerprint reader? Interesting... Does the Dload relock the bootloader? Sorry for the somewhat noobish question, new.
Just looking through sys at the moment to understand the language used for big.little, seems to be a comma separation for them. Wondering if I can set min max this way and keep cores 4-7 at min freq 200000. Also looking for a way to get all big cores to disable when not in use, not just 3 of them which is the current.
Swap set to 0 in marshmellow, seems to speed the phone up a little.
testing Xposed here in a bit to get a few different features, debloated the phone, mostly normal stuff. Playing with other CPU files at the moment in root browser to see what I can do regarding the power draw from the CPU...
set SElinux to permissive to allow for proper audio playback through Viper//Atmos//Sony//Beats...Found Multiwindow, enabling that soon, don't know why it was ever disabled?
Otherwise mostly enjoying the phone at the moment, still above 80% battery with all this that im doing and im half way through my day. the CPU thing really helped with the battery draw.
You should try CyanogenMod 13: excellent battery life, USB OTG and gyro working, much better CPU & RAM management...
FP reader is working, but you must upgrade to MM first (to update trust zone and radio firmwares).
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@Demian3112
So Dload for lollipop will revert back from Marshmallow and keep fingerprint reader? Interesting... Does the Dload relock the bootloader? Sorry for the somewhat noobish question, new.
Just looking through sys at the moment to understand the language used for big.little, seems to be a comma separation for them. Wondering if I can set min max this way and keep cores 4-7 at min freq 200000. Also looking for a way to get all big cores to disable when not in use, not just 3 of them which is the current.
Swap set to 0 in marshmellow, seems to speed the phone up a little.
testing Xposed here in a bit to get a few different features, debloated the phone, mostly normal stuff. Playing with other CPU files at the moment in root browser to see what I can do regarding the power draw from the CPU...
set SElinux to permissive to allow for proper audio playback through Viper//Atmos//Sony//Beats...Found Multiwindow, enabling that soon, don't know why it was ever disabled?
Otherwise mostly enjoying the phone at the moment, still above 80% battery with all this that im doing and im half way through my day. the CPU thing really helped with the battery draw.
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It stays unlocked.. u Miss firmware thats why it doesnt work get stock firmware for your device and it should work not sure how you reverted.. keep in mind u will lose all data and stuff.
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Anymore u tried? I posted that script but still EMUI is an heavy OS im waiting for CM to be abit more stable. U can revert back to LP using a local update though dload. I did it aswell when my phone was bricked. Fp is not working because u miss the firmware
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It stays unlocked.. u Miss firmware thats why it doesnt work get stock firmware for your device and it should work not sure how you reverted.. keep in mind u will lose all data and stuff.
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Oh of course, I loose data all the time anyway so im used to that flash far too often to be healthy.
I reverted via a twrp backup, used emergency data recovery to factory reset using stock recovery, then it let me boot into lollipop, just missing that all important fingerprint reader//navigation tool. Will most def do that soon, at 60% :/ not sure where the random drain came from. just an hour later and lost 20%? Has to have to do with Screen off app closing. Huawei probably did the lazy thing and just changed over from their own tools to doze I guess that helps while its on your bed at night? And then never again?
As for CM13, im fairly apathetic to the topic... Not to be annoying, or rude, but ive heard the excellent battery life claim a million times about stock android, and while ive noticed its improvements over something like...say, Sense, or Touchwiz... Ive never seen it beat the z3's battery saving tool (before marshmallow), or as of the day I got this phone, Huaweis non-debloated lollipop.
Ive never seen a phone still be at 30-40%, at the end of work, the day after the day I charged. Until this phone. The Z3 would make it a little past lunch if I barely used it on day 2, but this phone played pokemon go for 2 hours the day I charged it, I spent the day listening to streaming music, browsing for various small things, watching a few youtube videos, a little navigation... And it had 40% when I left work the next day lol at 100% auto brightness. Id love to see some screen on vs idle drain comparisons between this phones CM13 and Stock, at that point, ill believe a battery claim.
It played pokemon go at 60fps and the game is a known battery/gpu hog (s7 plays slower than this phone, likely due to lack of gyroscope?)
other than some various laggy UI glitches, the phone was pretty much what id been looking for (I Prefer Miui over stock android, this phone is similar)
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Oh of course, I loose data all the time anyway so im used to that flash far too often to be healthy.
I reverted via a twrp backup, used emergency data recovery to factory reset using stock recovery, then it let me boot into lollipop, just missing that all important fingerprint reader//navigation tool. Will most def do that soon, at 60% :/ not sure where the random drain came from. just an hour later and lost 20%? Has to have to do with Screen off app closing. Huawei probably did the lazy thing and just changed over from their own tools to doze I guess that helps while its on yuur bed at night? And then never again?
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What buildnumber and Custom version/Cust do you have? Might be able to link you the right firmware.. twrp backup doesnt backup firmware that explains that you dont have a finger print, is the H from Honor at boot logo Red also?
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
skeppley said:
I got it all sorted fellas.
Went to the 5X Repository. Downloaded the Stock 1.51 firmware. Placed the "update.app" from it under "dload" on sd card.
Opened up SuperSU on phone and went to settings to remove root and reboot.
After reboot hooked phone to computer and adb flashed the stock 1.51 recovery found in the repository. "same method as flashing twrp, only use 1.51 recovery.img instead"
Reboot phone again and then powered off.
Hold Volume up/down and power to restart and it updates form the 1.51 stock firmware on the SD card WIPING ALL DATA.
Now fingerprint and all factory settings are restored!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps others coming back from Marshmallow or CM13 like i did.
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Your Reply has been added to the OP for those concerned with Downgrading. Figured it might be nice to stumble upon the directions that, after reading many posts throughout the various roms, many people might actually be looking for. Will likely try this tonight when I get home, battery is much better with the battery fix, but not as good as lolipop
Great.
Hope to help others that were stuck the same way
@igotlostintampa flashed CM13 today.. Im sold on this device i would suggest you to upgrade aswell.. Everything works no bugs so far and its smooth as hell. Battery is insane.. Every core has a task and with normal use it doesnt even scale above 800mhz and the other 4 are offline all the time only when needed they get activated.. Since 1PM i lost only 20% battery (Im on 23 now) while i was installing CM also.. Deffinitaly recommended
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@igotlostintampa flashed CM13 today.. Im sold on this device i would suggest you to upgrade aswell.. Everything works no bugs so far and its smooth as hell. Battery is insane.. Every core has a task and with normal use it doesnt even scale above 800mhz and the other 4 are offline all the time only when needed they get activated.. Since 1PM i lost only 20% battery (Im on 23 now) while i was installing CM also.. Deffinitaly recommended
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Alright so question for you, im interested in that CM13 seems to be using the big little concept we have been speaking about...
((Marshmellow Big.Little Fix does not function properly. It resets without reboot being required, just takes longer to apply than the core modifications under smart power saving, init.d through kernel auditor on smart battery saving mode does not run script on boot, must be manually executed))
Does the CM13 Fingerprint reader allow you to pull down notifications? Will likely check it out, interested... Also, how about a screen off task killer? Is that present... Looking through its forums.
igotlostintampa said:
Alright so question for you, im interested in that CM13 seems to be using the big little concept we have been speaking about...
((Marshmellow Big.Little Fix does not function properly. It resets without reboot being required, just takes longer to apply than the core modifications under smart power saving, init.d through kernel auditor on smart battery saving mode does not run script on boot, must be manually executed))
Does the CM13 Fingerprint reader allow you to pull down notifications? Will likely check it out, interested... Also, how about a screen off task killer? Is that present... Looking through its forums.
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No fingerprint pull down.. No gestures for it yet. No off screen taskkiler but thats fine its stock android you will have enough memory spare.. Got 10 apps open right now no issue and u can instant change to one. CPU is tweaked already with kernal adiutor u can turn off cores manually and tweak it to what ever you like.. Day 2 of using battery is better.. ALOT smoother u can switch from app in a instant no waiting time at all. If u have any questions just ask it. Rom is stable enough for daily use no bugs so far!
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No fingerprint pull down.. No gestures for it yet. No off screen taskkiler but thats fine its stock android you will have enough memory spare.. Got 10 apps open right now no issue and u can instant change to one. CPU is tweaked already with kernal adiutor u can turn off cores manually and tweak it to what ever you like.. Day 2 of using battery is better.. ALOT smoother u can switch from app in a instant no waiting time at all. If u have any questions just ask it. Rom is stable enough for daily use no bugs so far!
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Ah see im not worried about memory usage, I never run low on a stock rom in the first place. Stock android has this problem where it allows some apps to sit open eating battery life when the screen is off. Instances of this include facebook, Google maps, general overall "Wakelocks" not present inside of the stock Huawei rom, that prevent the phone from going to sleep even though they aren't doing anything. The off screen task killer is there to close apps hogging battery life in the background that should have turned off when they weren't needed but didnt, after your screen turns off. For the most part this is the cause of the smoothness that you feel inside of a rom. Its going to be smooth because none of the apps are ever turning off, its a balance scale.
Not a big problem, I don't mind fixing that its really easy lol, just curious. As for the gestures that's a little disappointing.. It just seems like I may have to add a bit, but I can try it before I run over to lollistock, ill test it out today. You've convinced me with a claim of good battery though lol, and your previous comments about marshmallow, don't let me down!
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Ah see im not worried about memory usage, I never run low on a stock rom in the first place. Stock android has this problem where it allows some apps to sit open eating battery life when the screen is off. Instances of this include facebook, Google maps, general overall "Wakelocks" not present inside of the stock Huawei rom, that prevent the phone from going to sleep even though they aren't doing anything. The off screen task killer is there to close apps hogging battery life in the background that should have turned off when they weren't needed but didnt, after your screen turns off. For the most part this is the cause of the smoothness that you feel inside of a rom. Its going to be smooth because none of the apps are ever turning off, its a balance scale.
Not a big problem, I don't mind fixing that its really easy lol, just curious. As for the gestures that's a little disappointing.. It just seems like I may have to add a bit, but I can try it before I run over to lollistock, ill test it out today. You've convinced me with a claim of good battery though lol, and your previous comments about marshmallow, don't let me down!
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Im using Force doze app.. U can whitelist apps and as soon as you turnoff your screen it starts doze... You wont get notifications from apps you didnt whitelist until you turn it back on
Install Ram Cleanup by J Kosa in play store, you will have minimum 50% extra life, I just tried it and I don't have to recharge everyday anymore, also I use my mobile a lot even tho I don't have to recharge it every day, make sure to check auto clean, and I have not tried full clean Ram till zero in memory, I fear I might brick it, so I am playing it safe, you can do as you wish but please don't blame me if you risk any wrong settings, remember keep it simple. But if you are a developer please advise me best setting cause there are many settings I am not trying yet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kosajun.easymemorycleaner
Thank you
PS no need for root it works just fine.
I've got a problem with my S8 which is running latest, official, non-rooted XEO firmware. Specifically, it uses battery like crazy and heats up whilst doing nothing. This smells like a virus / malware infection or just... well, the last update was in December 2021 so it's also possible some system component is wonky OR... <shivers> some rootkit? I'm generally rather careful when installing apps, most of which will be coming in from official sources (Google Store) or at least fairly trusted sources.
Every so often I'll get a warning that a system component is using too much CPU and I should restart the phone - which obviously doesn't help at all. Also the battery drain is reported primarily by Android System and System Core (29 and 15% respectively). Battery usage stats generally don't add up because the listings don't add up to 100%. :/
I know the S8 is an old phone... and I know there are probably steps I should take prior to asking here - like a factory reset. But I'm really sceptical of doing a factory reset simply because I've got so much stuff on the phone that, while not impossible to backup, is certainly annoying (authenticator or banking apps for example - and I don't think the standard backup tools like those available from Google or Samsung backup such apps).
So I'd rather try some solutions or methods of dealing with the damned thing without resetting the phone first. Is there anything I can do?
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery. Being rooted you have more options... use them.
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery.
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Will try that, thanks!
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Being rooted you have more options... use them.
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The phone is NON-rooted.
blackhawk said:
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
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Will try that, thanks!
The phone is NON-rooted.
Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
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Sorry about the root thing, my bad.
If you're running on Android 9 or lower Karma Firewall's logging feature is fully active otherwise not. Samsung store>Galaxy Labs> Battery Tracker can be useful.
I use Accubattery's history page to get a quick idea of charge/discharge rates.
I use Device Care>storage>clean as well.
Make sure no cloud apps are running in the background.
Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Why other than maybe text messages is anything syncing? Take out the trash and go from there.
The ones that are connecting every minute or more when not open are prime suspects.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed out when not in use or they eat battery.
You can also try a hard reboot.
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I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Hard reset... hold power button until it powers off.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services at night, see what that does.
OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
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Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
It's more than one apk though. Takes a while to optimize a Sammy the first time
Well... if it's set up and used right Android 9 will run securely in the real world. No saving dumb bunnies anyway; they'll still get tagged even with the latest version
The proof is in my hand. Loaded over 2+ years ago and this N10+ UI version 1.5 is running clean like a bat out of hell. If I do get malware I can't erraticate in an hour or so, factory reset and change passwords.
My data is redundantly backed* up 4+ times, plus the onboard SD card used as a data drive. I'm ready to reload right now if I have to...
A malware forced reload is still less trouble than constantly updating and having the updates screw things up. That means more troubleshooting, finding new work arounds and still maybe needing a factory reset on top of all that. No.
Not vaxed either... not buying the hype.
*critical data must be redundantly backed up or sooner or latter it will likely be lost. Never encrypt data drives as you are the most likely to be locked out!
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Package Disabler kills bixby proper.
You can also disable it with an adb edit. That's one of the first things I do.
Bixby is a hot mess best dump along the interstate... like Google Assistant it needs external servers for many of its functions. I may change my mind but it's eula is like eating dry hardtack for breakfast.