The subject pretty much says it all. I know the phone has a chip capable of supporting "OK Google" detection with the screen off. Do any ROMs enable it?
To be clear, I'm not talking about Moto Voice. I'm talking about using Google Now like it is on the Nexus devices.
I asked this a while back, and didn't get any replies, so I'm assuming the answer is "no."
I'm curious why this isn't doable. I assume the app itself is checking if the phone is compatible with the feature (whether it has the chip with the requisite low-power core). If so, wouldn't it be possible for a ROM to lie to the app and tell it it's a compatible device?
Moto voice works along side with Google now if you just want to use OK Google without Moto voice phone has to be plugged into power source
datchico305 said:
Moto voice works along side with Google now if you just want to use OK Google without Moto voice phone has to be plugged into power source
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I know it has to be plugged in... but my question is "why?" The Moto X has the same low-power co-processor that a Nexus or Galaxy S phone has.
Yes it does but it's not an option on OK google hotword detection but the Moto software has it the only workaround is getting an app on the play store to use it it's called open mic+
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Hey,
I'm running the 9505 s4 4.4.2.
For the first time since the nexus one I think I've run into an issue no android phone can get around.
I ride a motorcycle and picked up the Sena 20s Bluetooth headset.
This is my first Bluetooth headset and something I've waited over a year for.
The issue is the dedicated phone button to access your device through voice.
By default this button launches voice dialing on android instead of Google now.
With iPhone it launches siri.
I have tried to reassign the button to Google now but this only works if the device is not locked.
Is there any way around this?
Is there any device that will allow Google now to launch?
Any word if android 4.5 / 5.0 will fix this?
Perhaps a ROM that enables this?
Any advice is appreciated as I currently stand it is looking like iPhone is the only option.
Another option may be the motto x with active listening.
I've heard Google may make this available to all devices, but I was under the impression that this "always listening" is completely Dependant on hardware?
I have the same problem!
I have this exact same problem. Even when the phone is unlocked, google now is a bit spotty in loading when hitting the phone button.
Google did just release an update for Google Now that allows you to access google now from any screen, even the lock screen. That being said, the phone button on the Sena 20s STILL loads the phone dialer. The phone dialer is honestly not good and google now seems to be better to use for dialing people anyway. I wonder if we can submit a request to Sena to have this feature added. It's probably just the button calling up voice dialing instead of google now.
Try submitting a feature enhancement request, I might do the same.
Can anyone tell me what do I do to make it actually run from screen off? I can't use Moto Voice as it's not available in my language. The "ok google" phrase works when the screen is on, but I can't make it work when it's off. Is it even remotely possible to make it work like that?
I don't believe that's possible. I think only moto voice uses the low power voice listening core.
There might be a root way but would likely use more power than moto voice.
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[POLL] Snapdragon vs Exynos. Does "OK Google" work if screen is OFF & not charging?
there seems to be NO consensus when it comes to ALWAYS-ON hotword detection regarding the S7. Let's establish one. Simply put, does Google's hotword gets triggered in your S7 even if the screen is OFF and phone is not charging?
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I have dug into this. The snapdragon variant has two chips dedicated to audio, it's a DSP Group D4A1A (DBMD4) A/V Processor parried with a Qualcomm WCD9335 Audio Codec. But the Exynos variant has only one chip, the Cirrus Logic CS47L91 Audio Codec. Can the CS47L91 perform the same functions, more specifically always-on hotword detection, that the D4A1A (DBMD4) can?
I also wonder if the D4A1A (DBMD4) only detects the hotword from Samsung's S Voice or if it also detects third party hotwords such as the one from Google which is "Okay Google". We need to go deeper guys.
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I would imagine considerable battery drain if it was listening 24/7 even with the screen off, and would probably disable Doze from working
For some weird reason, Google Assistant showed up on my phone (the language on my phone is set to EN-US, but my search language is PT-BR) and screen off detection was enabled and working, later the entire Assistant (with the screen off detection) disappeared.
Besides for pleasing NSA, I don't see any sense in a permanently listening device. So I am happy that this is not the case with my Exynos S7.
Best, maris
I spent a few hours trying to figure this crap out, I'm kinda pissed it's this difficult to get it working or even to get correct/proper information regarding this specific subject. I didn't think it would be so niche in the actual days.
I discovered recently that Samsung's app S Voice has direct access to the hardware audio-dedicated chip that is ALWAYS LISTENING for a hotword. The standard hotword is "Hey Galaxy" for english, but it varies and it seems to be based on the language of the OS. I can confirm that even the Exynos variant has this functionality so the chip CS47L91 can be utilized to be always listening for a hotword without significantly impacting battery life. All the doubts regarding the capabilities of the chip CS47L91 are therefore disregarded, this is important!
One has to open the S Voice app at least once to set it up, only then the always listening function will be activated. When the hotword is recognized, the low-watt chip wakes the chipset which then follows with standard procedure. In fact it is so cool the word can be changed from "Hey Galaxy" and customized to any couple of words one desires. I just changed my hotword to HAKUNA MATATA, and even if the screen is OFF and the phone is not charging the hotword still gets triggered, the phone wakes up promptly able to receive voice commands.
That's the good part. THe sad part is that, so far, the S7's always-on hotword detection only work with Samsung's S Voice app. For unknown reasons third party apps, including Google's Assistant, do not work if the screen is OFF. But we know the hardware is there on both variants, period. I'm guessing third-party devs get no jelly because the access to the chip is encrypted by first-party devs. It could also be pure bureaucracy bs. It's very evident and clear that S Voice at its current state can't compete with Google's Assistant, it doesn't even scratch the surface.
Since it's potentially a chronic and eternal problem for this particular device, meaning a patch may never arrive, enter workarounds. The current workaround I'm playing with is using Samsung's S Voice to unlock and wake the phone, staying silent for a couple of seconds till it stops registering commands and right after it stops I say Google's hotword to activate Google's Assistant, then I proceed with what I wanted in the first place. It's not perfect, it's kinda horrible actually. But it gets the job done which is relevant, of course it can very frustrating if you are in a hurry or use the service multiple times a day.
I'll try to contact a Google Assistant dev to see what is really up, but for now, that's it.
Excellent thread and info. I'm guessing for the majority of S7 users as well as phone users this functionality doesn't seem to be of concern. However in my particular job as a delivery driver I use OK Google all day long. I really wish screen off detection would work.
My work around is just using my bluetooth headset. I simply hold a button down for a few seconds Ok Google is activated even with the screen off.
Have a issue with Google now not detecting my voice. It's also present in other apps like maps and YouTube. When I press the mic it doesnt pick up my voice.
I have to restart my phone then seems to work fine.
Any other people with similar issue ?
I just updated yesterday too
It's m on the T-Mobile g6 variant
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This is an issue with Google Assistant. Seems to happen every once in a while for some reason, at least it did on my G5 after it updated to Assistance. Retrain the voice model.
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I am as well facing the same issue on my G6
BuLLeT_PrOOf_wAlleTz said:
Have a issue with Google now not detecting my voice. It's also present in other apps like maps and YouTube. When I press the mic it doesnt pick up my voice.
I have to restart my phone then seems to work fine.
Any other people with similar issue ?
I just updated yesterday too
It's m on the T-Mobile g6 variant
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I've had this. It's a big where Google thinks the mic is in use. Only fix is reboot that I've found
Either reboot or force close the Google app. Sometimes closing all apps in your recent apps menu works but I just force close the Google app
My "OK Google" voice detection keeps turning itself off in the settings. So I have to go in, turn it on and retrain the voice model. Super annoying.
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My "OK Google" voice detection keeps turning itself off in the settings. So I have to go in, turn it on and retrain the voice model. Super annoying.
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I saw an article on Android authority that advised users with the "ok Google" voice detections problem to go in to apps and clear all data for the Google app. Then reboot and retrain voice. It worked for me so far.
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I saw an article on Android authority that advised users with the "ok Google" voice detections problem to go in to apps and clear all data for the Google app. Then reboot and retrain voice. It worked for me so far.
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I've done that and it still happens randomly. Force close the app or wait a little it comes back. I'm like 99% positive it's something to do with either Googles servers or some bug in the app somewhere
Yeah, it's a Google assistant issue. Happens across all three of my devices. My Google Homes have been acting wonky today, too.
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I had this issue up until the last update.
Clear the Google app data by going to Settings – Apps – Google app – Storage – Manage Space and tap on Clear all data. Then restart the phone and you should now be able to retrain the voice model. Go to Settings – Google Services – Search – Voice – “OK Google” detection – Retrain Voice Model. The voice command should now work as expected.
Hi,
I also have the LG G6 and unless I literally shout 'OK Google' it will not active Google assistant. Any ideas on how this can be fixed? I have tried everything already suggested.
Thanks,
Sam
Sam_6788 said:
Hi,
I also have the LG G6 and unless I literally shout 'OK Google' it will not active Google assistant. Any ideas on how this can be fixed? I have tried everything already suggested.
Thanks,
Sam
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I have the same issue! Did you find a solution?
Same here.
I have to say ok google at least 6 times before it works.
Its an lg g6 problem...coz on my s8 plus it was perfect.
I have tried everythng to get my mic working again. It work fine if i record video. But calls, and whatspp, skype and other apps cant use the mic. Anyone...I contacted LG and they said they have to fix it? But to me it seems software related.
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I had this issue up until the last update.
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The update fixed the issues for me.
Is "Hey Google" instead of "OK google" enabled for anyone on an S8?
I've tried everything to get the Google app updated to enable the new "Hey Google" phrase but it is just not happening for me. Has anyone on an S8 gotten the prompt to enable the new shorter key word? If so, which variant? I'm on the Verizon S8.
I guess this feature has been rolling out for about a week.
Not on mine either. Someday it will
It's working to me, Snapdragon Japanese version.
It works pretty often because my 'hey' and 'OK' sound similar
I tried it on my S8+, the first time it worked when I said hey instead of ok and when I was supposed to repeat the phrase it didn't work
I haven't gotten hey google to work, but I was working on my PC and somehting about google pissed me off and I said f*&k you google and the phone responded. Must have sounded like OK google to the phone.