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Hello,
I had the impression of plenty of people unlocking their BL, like far more than 90%.
Now, as I thought about it, it came to my mind that I could be totally wrong about that.
Till now I thought, to unlock BL is like the normal thing to do, and maybe to relock if DRM was needed or DRM hack did not work.
Or, as in case with the latest DRM_Hack from Team HSxEXR, which is really cool! - if you forget to apply it after flashing, you maybe don't want to wipe data/factory reset after you already installed your apps.
So there are some cases where you just want to relock this thing.
But there are maybe some people who never unlocked it and went stock-based all the time? No custom kernels, no multiboot?
Since there is xposed, you can have a lot of things with any rom, if you can root and install a recovery. And there are the fantastic stock based ROMs which I prefered also a lot of the time, because of the better camera.
What is/ was your choice? Feel free to explain I am really eager to know how many of you never unlocked for example! Did you encounter any problems or could you use all the tweaks you wanted to install?
Unlocked 10 minutes after i arrived home with my Z2 XD
I haven't unlocked it and I don't want it because I'm totally satisfied with my stock based rom.
I don't even use xposed.
On previous phones I did both but I haven't crossed anything that would make me want to do it on my Z2
I haven't unlocked my bootloader. I just found the stock experience satisfying and trusted that Sony would still upgrade the software, which they seem to be doing. I use the #nochromo ad-blocking chrome browser and dolphin with an ad-blocker plug-in, so apart from YouTube ads I'm not bothered for root. Emulators run fast, battery life is good, camera is great (if you mess about with manual settings) and benchmarking to 49000 on antutu for what it's worth. Also I have a sony tablet & sony 4k android TV so I've left them all stock so they talk to each other fluidly. MM is only weeks away so I'm not even going to bother flashing the beta rom. And for the record I flashed both my HTC One X and HTC Desire multiple times, to account for the shortcomings in those devices. The shortcomings in the Z2 are so niggly and small that I don't see the point, in fact I have gone sim-only with my provider and refused an S7 Edge upgrade cos I like the Z2 so much!
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Kept a locked bootloader, only needed to have root.
Well,as for me,im too afraid to unlock the bootloader or even root.First,because im a heavy noob,i dont understand nothing ,even when you explain me,i will be like a girl which says "Ehmm,okay......".
The only thing i did is flashed my phone,thats the simpliest thing ever.My phone is still under warranty so i dont want to mess with stuff like that.
Unlocked it, the first day i got it.
Androplus kernel is must to get the full potential of the snapdragon.
I have LB, but sometimes I unlock for trying ROMs, I have a backup of my TA partition so I don't worry to unlock bootloader every time I want to try something
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I did unlock my bl.
But I couldn't really notice a whole lot of difference, even with a custom kernel, so I relocked it by restoring my ta backup(make sure to take a ta backup no matter what). That was half a year ago though.
I might unlock it now that drm restoration is really easy, but I think that unlocking your bl does wipe your phone, and I am too bored to backup everything.
In all honesty, I don't think you are missing a whole lot by not having a custom kernel or a rom such as cm, as sony's software is already light enough.
However, I am guessing that there should be some gains via installing a custom kernel (overclock, or better battery life) so keep that in mind too.
Unlock and relocked several times already... No problems so far. Total freedom of choice....
Until the Xperia Z3, we still have the choice to keep bootloader locked since root exploit have been found.
But with Z4 then later Xperias you are forced to unlock your bootloader to root.
There won't be anymore root exploit for locked bootloader. We are lucky that Sony is allowing the unlocking of bootloader.
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niaboc79 said:
There won't be anymore root exploit for locked bootloader. We are lucky that Sony is allowing the unlocking of bootloader.
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Could you explain why?
Isn't it possible that new root exploits are developed in the future?
A root exploit is basically an unpatched security issue.
No system will ever be secure, there are possibly even root-exploits out there which are not shared with anybody
(Zero-day-exploit).
Anyways, I like the way Sony is opening their boot loader for public... It's like nexus.
Unlock after back my TA up, for safety
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Could you explain why?
Isn't it possible that new root exploits are developed in the future?
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Nobody with requested skills care of Xperia devices anymore.
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Unlocked the bootloader was the first thing I did, after testing the Z2 for a few hours only to see that everything works.
I didn't even bother to take a backup of those DRM keys. Never goig to use anything DRM related anyway.
I needed to flash a minimalistic ROM without bloatwares.
I've unlocked it a few times, but the worse photo quality always brought me back to stock. It's a shame we can't have the best of both worlds
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Could you explain why?
Isn't it possible that new root exploits are developed in the future?
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XDA did a very nice article about this a while ago:
http://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-at-marshmallow-root-verity-complications/
This line should be easy to understand: "In lieu of an unofficial bootloader unlock (those are fairly rare these days, short of leaked engineering bootloaders for a few Samsung devices), it seems highly unlikely that you’ll be getting root on Android 6.0 without some divine intervention – the combination of dm-verity (to stop your phone from booting with any modifications to the system partition), and the requirement for SELinux changes in the ramdisk (to let root work), look set to make things rather un-fun for root-aspiring users of these locked-down devices."
I'm so glad sony didn't enable dm-verity on the z2 mm beta or else root would be a HUGE problem for users with unlockable bootloader like me (z2 was my first sony device and i stupidly thought i could buy any z2 and request the unlock code from sony's dev site, so i bought it from vodafone at FULL price and got an unlockable bootloader as a bonus :crying: )
Like @niaboc79 said this things are EXTREMELY complex, technical and very hard to get around... and there's no one with the required skills on xperia sections as far as i know. I would gladly pay like 25/30eur to unlock the bootloader of my z2 if a sunshine like hack was available for it.
And to try and keep this still on topic i didn't unlock my bootloader just because i can't xD
I rooted my Z2 within a few days of owning it (coming from a Z1 which was a dud with horrible touch screen issues )
I proceeded to backup the TA partition and unlock the bootloader, and I have never relocked it, and I think it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
To me, if the bootloader can be unlocked, it shall become unlocked
I'm currently on official CM12.1 with M5 Kernel, and that made me fall in love with the Z2 all over again, and funny enough this isn't the first time using a custom ROM like CM12.1.
I've used many ROMs on the Z2, from stock to custom and from KitKat to Marshmallow, and in the past there was always a catch in some way or another going to something like CM12.1 or anything based on it.
BUT, that isn't the case anymore.
Using official CM12.1 is just pure bliss. Literally everything is working just as well as on stock. It's like owning a Xperia Nexus, if such a thing existed
No random reboots. No lockups. No force closes. No errors. No bugs.
Awesome
So yes. Unlocking the bootloader was so worth it
Yes indeed, I also had a marvelous experience with 12.1 CM.
The only backdraw was that CM feels so "mainstream" and the ****ty "recovery".
This rom definetly ranges in the top 3 for z2 in my opinion.
There is one thing, that I miss on non-Sony ROMs if the camera is ok, and that is the small apps, yt/media-viewer in particular.
I don't like installing xposed if I don't have to, so the small apps are a nice way to listen to yt while screen off or using other apps in the foreground.
Many devices tend to loose picture quality when unlocked, it never happened to me with my previous devices but I need to ask to users here if it will happen with the g4 plus,
I am talking about the picture quality in stock ROM here, will an unlocked bootloader affect the picture quality of stock ROM?
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Unlocking the bootloader does nothing (zero changes) to the actual system files. It won't affect the "quality" of pictures.
The only time when, after unlocking, picture quality decrease is when using a ROM/firmware that doesn't integrate the correct blobs for camera or the native app - this is the case with some (most) CM/Lineage ROMs.
Unlocking the bootloader will not affect the picture quality. Changing ROMs can affect picture quality though , depending on the libraries and the camera app. I faced the same issue initially, but eventually it got better.
Thanks for your answers ?
Couple of questions
1. Is the 22/5 build of LOS stable, means is everything working?
2. Can I relock bootloader and reclaim warranty?
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Haven't tried LOS but as far as the second question is concerned, it's better you keep your bootloader unlocked since problems may arise with locked bootloader and custom ROM, and AFAIK you cannot flash any custom file with a locked bootloader. Plus you won't gain much by locking your bootloader...(correct me if I have stated anything wrong)
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Thanks for your answers
Couple of questions
1. Is the 22/5 build of LOS stable, means is everything working?
2. Can I relock bootloader and reclaim warranty?
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In addition to what nlp931 has mentioned, re-locking your bootloader will not recover your warranty. Motorola has a record of the unlocking and thus voiding of the warranty - there are reports of some users re-locking their devices and being able to claim warranty repairs. How much of that was up to the discretion of the service centre, the repair performed or simply looking at the receipts (rather than checking the IMEI), I don't know. Also, relocking (and unlocking again) may wipe your device.
I concur though that re-locking a bootloader is only advisable with stock firmware - given the verification checks performed at boot, having anything custom (be it recovery, system or kernel) may trip those checks and render your device unable to boot!
Having a quick look through the posts around the 22/05 LineageOS release, looks like there's not much in the way of bugs (call recording isn't working still, it seems) and Moto camera won't work without deleting of .jar files (or you could flash the patched camera app https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/stock-motorola-camera-t3596659). Additionally, as mentioned above in the thread, the camera quality may be subjectively different to stock. If you're looking to theme LineageOS, there's the OMS version too with Substratum support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/unofficial-lineageoms-14-1-athene-t3598237 I don't think the OMS and official builds are compatible with each other though (on a side note, the OMS build is newer than the official build at the moment )
Oh, as with any custom ROM, if you've got a G4 Plus, ensure you've updated to Nougat before flashing the custom ROM, else you're likely to run into fingerprint enrolment issues....
1. When you unlock the bootloader, you provide the serial to Lenovo in exchange for the unlock code. And you will click on a agreement that says that you will loose the warranty. They keep that record on their servers, re-locking will not erase that.
2. With any LOS firmware you will have issues with camera, the drivers for that are proprietary, you are stuck using generic drivers.
Hello,
My smartphone has no carrier customization.
I recently upgraded my X Compact to Oreo. It's the official Sony update.
I'd like to test Xposed framework. I understood I have to root the device. But I understood that i might lose the Sony camera app, which works better with xperia devices than any other camera app..
Could you tell me if it's possible, without losing the camera quality ? And which are the main steps ?
I ll be able to look for the detail of each steps by myself.
Thanks for your help
ico7liv said:
Hello,
My smartphone has no carrier customization.
I recently upgraded my X Compact to Oreo. It's the official Sony update.
I'd like to test Xposed framework. I understood I have to root the device. But I understood that i might lose the Sony camera app, which works better with xperia devices than any other camera app..
Could you tell me if it's possible, without losing the camera quality ? And which are the main steps ?
I ll be able to look for the detail of each steps by myself.
Thanks for your help
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You won't lose the camera app, but to root, you need to unlock bl, which wipes ta partition, where certain camera functions are stored, so camera is slightly worse. You can backup that partition to be restored after root, or you can use 'drm fix' which restores the functions that you lost when wiping ta.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/guide-root-custom-kernel-clean-rom-ta-x-t3583183
Hello,
Thanks for your detailed answer.
I'll check that
If you follow the guide carefully, you won't have any problems. I used this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/stock-8-0-root-recovery-t3747479
Hello everyone,
I'm new to XDA(joined just today to get help on this topic) so please ignore any mistakes.
Coming the the topic , I had been waiting patiently for official release of oreo for my phone , hoping that they would improve the camera, but now that i know that official oreo is 32 bit and we're not getting camera2 api i've lost hope from moto.
I'm sick of the oversharpening, artifacts, low DR ,from my current camera app.
And as the title suggest I want the best camera experience(both photos and video) and don't really care much about anything else.
ROM should be stable.
I'm ready to compromise on battery , performance , etc for the better images and video .
P.S. I've never installed a custom ROM on any of my phones or even rooted them. So any help in that regards will also be much appreciated.
Personally, I would stay stock. Oreo will be arriving very soon. This is best camera in my opinion:
https://potterroms.me/Mods/Camera/GCam_Nougat_3.2.045.apk
It's the 32bit mod of gcam, not all features are there but, hdr+ is, and that gives decent photos so long as you don't mind manual focus before taking photos by tapping screen. It does focus auto but can be a bit temperamental. If you manual focus it takes good images.
If you do decide to root etc, first and foremost...get a backup of efs before doing any Oreo flashing.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
Personally, I would stay stock. Oreo will be arriving very soon. This is best camera in my opinion:
It's the 32bit mod of gcam, not all features are there but, hdr+ is, and that gives decent photos so long as you don't mind manual focus before taking photos by tapping screen. It does focus auto but can be a bit temperamental. If you manual focus it takes good images.
If you do decide to root etc, first and foremost...get a backup of efs before doing any Oreo flashing.
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I installed the app but it is showing Camera error "Can't connect to the camera."
Also what is efs and how do i make a backup.
Thanks for your help
Dhonchak said:
I installed the app but it is showing Camera error "Can't connect to the camera."
Also what is efs and how do i make a backup.
Thanks for your help
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As u said u r new, Welcome to the XDA forum,
If you want the best camera experience go with Arnova8G2's Gcam port, this of course comes only by installing a custom 64-bit ROM & camera2api. Even I have recently rooted and installed AEX ROM and man what a camera quality! Just spectacular. Just like the above suggestion please take full back up of your rom (with EFS and PERSIST).
To take back up:
1) Unlock bootloader
2) Flash TWRP and Root
3) then back up, take EFS and Persist backups separately, in some cases u just need to flash efs or persist. Also take full backup along with all the boxes ticked.
If things go ur way, u can download and install any 64-bit ROM like LineageOS, AEX, Pixel Experience etc.
I have been using AEX, I am on the ninth cloud since then:laugh: customization+performance+battery life.
All the best.:good:
Hey, long time no see... I had to sell my xperia z3 last night, so I bought this XT1254 Droid Turbo.... Which is on MCG24.25-5-5 Build.... Android version 6.0.1 Security Patch level January 1, 2017....
I searched around here and found some complex methods for twrp and root, so I thought about posting here... I already did root Z3 unlocked it's bootloader and stuf..
So Is there any less complex method for these things? I don't wanna unlock bootloader for camera quality sake but I'd only like to know about rooting, twrp and a fast android 7 custom rom which is fast / battery saver, supports xposed etc if possible.. (Links would be useful, if someone can) So... Please point me in the right direction..
Else i'm staying stock. Thank you very much in advance.
Anyone???