Hello,
Please excuse me if I'm posting this in the wrong thread.
I'm planning to buy a Chinese Android-based standalone smartwatch. The problem is that, for storage capacity reasons, the manufacturers opted to remove Google's Talkback or the whole accessibility stack (usually reachable in settings -> Accessibility). As a result, even if you have the Playstore preinstalled, installing Talkback will not work.
Essentially, I'm looking for a watch which has the accessibility stack in tact. I don't mind if you have to flash an unofficial rom. I've just emailed the ZGPax watch manufacturers about this as well.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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I just two apps called ANT Radio Service and ANT+ Plugins. I did not installed them. How can they are on my phone? And why are these are system apps?
Can I delete them, and if I can, how do I make it?
I use 4.3 MI8 Android Sytem on my Galaxy S4
Lewis0214 said:
I just two apps called ANT Radio Service and ANT+ Plugins. I did not installed them. How can they are on my phone? And why are these are system apps?
Can I delete them, and if I can, how do I make it?
I use 4.3 MI8 Android Sytem on my Galaxy S4
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Copying my post from somewhere else:
Sony and Samsung bundle these services on all of their latest devices.
To my understanding these services are just the equivalent of the Bluetooth stack which allows apps to use Bluetooth on your phone, but for ANT+. Instead of being built deeper down at the system level (where you wouldn't find it in your apps list), it's been distributed on the Play Store to make bug fixes and new feature updates much faster than waiting for new firmware updates. Also it allows users to add ANT support to devices which already do not have it through USB.
Google already does this with their Google Play Services which they bundle into the Google Play "app" so they can bypass carriers and not wait for phones to be firmware updated (if they ever are). In this case it's just more highly visible then if it was hidden deeper.
If you delete them, it's the equivalent of deleting Bluetooth support, but for ANT+ devices instead.
You can find more information about it on their website.
As to removing it, you need root access, but if their are no apps using them then they don't consume any discernable power anyway
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Copying my post from somewhere else:
Sony and Samsung bundle these services on all of their latest devices.
To my understanding these services are just the equivalent of the Bluetooth stack which allows apps to use Bluetooth on your phone, but for ANT+. Instead of being built deeper down at the system level (where you wouldn't find it in your apps list), it's been distributed on the Play Store to make bug fixes and new feature updates much faster than waiting for new firmware updates. Also it allows users to add ANT support to devices which already do not have it through USB.
Google already does this with their Google Play Services which they bundle into the Google Play "app" so they can bypass carriers and not wait for phones to be firmware updated (if they ever are). In this case it's just more highly visible then if it was hidden deeper.
If you delete them, it's the equivalent of deleting Bluetooth support, but for ANT+ devices instead.
You can find more information about it on their website.
As to removing it, you need root access, but if their are no apps using them then they don't consume any discernable power anyway
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Good to know thanks for the info.:good:
Ant and Ant+ are for pairing with fitness devices like pedometers, heart rate monitors, and other such fitness monitors and tools. If you do not use these type of devices...simply disable the app...its just another way samsung is trying to appease all of their users and entice others to use their products. A very useful app if you are into staying fit.
NO!!!,DONT USE THEM,THEY WILL TURN YOU INTO ANT(lol,jk,just feeding the trolls[emoji23] [emoji23] ) but anyways @geusseppe is right:
geusseppe said:
Ant and Ant+ are for pairing with fitness devices like pedometers, heart rate monitors, and other such fitness monitors and tools. If you do not use these type of devices...simply disable the app...its just another way samsung is trying to appease all of their users and entice others to use their products. A very useful app if you are into staying fit.
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yahya wessam said:
NO!!!,DONT USE THEM,THEY WILL TURN YOU INTO ANT(lol,jk,just feeding the trolls[emoji23] [emoji23] ) but anyways @geusseppe is right:
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geusseppe said:
Ant and Ant+ are for pairing with fitness devices like pedometers, heart rate monitors, and other such fitness monitors and tools. If you do not use these type of devices...simply disable the app...its just another way samsung is trying to appease all of their users and entice others to use their products. A very useful app if you are into staying fit.
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Not exactly, this is not entirely correct. It's more then just "pairing fitness devices". Please read OneCanuck's first reply for a better understanding on what it is. Thank you.
Just watched a video where apparently this so called "ANT" app is just a spy infiltrated in your phone. If installed, by remote access, camera/microphone can be activated even with the phone shut off.
Link, or it doesn't exist.
Where did you find this video? And, what Proves they have knowledge & truth on the subject. Just cuz its on the web dosent mean its true or real. Theres a LOT of sh*theads out there puttíng out Bad Information, some unwitingly, some are deviant jerks. Either way, the one who accepts this bad info is exploited & his/her problems are ábout to begin. Be suspicious my friend, trust nothing, verify everything.
@?Everything: Replying to a thread that's been dead for two years now. Why?
@Strephon Alkhalikoi, things stay on the internet for longer than 2 years and search engines find them.
If you want siloed forum threads, automatically lock them after 6 months of inactivity. But there's value in having all information and interaction in one place.
To ?Everything's point, notkbna never provided proof, and readers from the future will now have both warnings and be able to decide on their own.
To make my own contribution to the actual topic, ANT+ really isn't much more than "pairing fitness devices". Sure it can be used in things like remote controls and geocaching, but it's just a protocol for monitoring sensor data.
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@Strephon Alkhalikoi, things stay on the internet for longer than 2 years and search engines find them.
If you want siloed forum threads, automatically lock them after 6 months of inactivity. But there's value in having all information and interaction in one place.
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And here you are, wasting time on a thread that ended three years ago. Neither you nor "Everything" bothered to look at the date of the last post, which means the only purpose of you two posting at all is to inflate your post counts. The only reason I knew this thread was resurrected from the dead is XDA Labs bringing it to the top of my Participated Threads window.
You're wasting both your time and mine by resurrecting this thread. The people who participated in it are unlikely to respond, and anything you may want to add is probably out of date.
Just like this thread.
Hi, I recently got a Moto 360 as a present. But sadly, I soon came to the realization that you can't run Android Wear without GAPPS installed (I'm running CM10.2). I'm not going to install Google's spyware just so I can use a watch.
Are there other Apps that work with AndroIid Wear Devices? My smartphone does support Bluethooth 4 and BLE. A little bit digging showed me that some dedicated people got some functionality to work on their Iphone without Google Services. Alos when I install the Pebble App it recognzes my phone (but can not connect)
I really just want to get notifications to my watch, control music , set an alarm and maybe get my pulse data on my phone. Are there third party apps that can do that?
The person who ported the Android Wear functionality to Iphone has a Github repository of his Iphone app under shiitakeo/android_wear_for_ios . If there is no option I will have to write my own app and I'm going to orient myself on what he did there.
So you are looking for an app to connect your android phone to the iOS wear connect app on moto360? And not android wear app?
I'm looking for a third party android app that lets me connect my Moto 360 with my Phone aCyanogenmod 10.2 without gapps installed.
Without gapps I can't install the offical Android Wear app. Taking a peak in the IOS world shows me that it' s possible to do that with a device that supports Bluethooth 4.0 and BLE. The Pebbles app also recognizes my watch but does not let me connect it, this tells me that they must use a similiar protocol or maybe even the same. My question is, if someebody already did write such an App, that lets you connect your Android phone with your smart watch (without installing gapps!), or if I have to do this on my own. (I'm a software developer but never did anything with Bluethooth or much in Android.)
I'd also like to find a non-gapps solution for this. Have you found one?
Apple spies for Facebook. You'll sell your integrity no matter what.
Hi all,
it is some time I have NO.1 d6 smart watch for testing and I am facing problem I'm not able to resolve.
Because I am blind, first thing necessary to do for me was to install and activate Talkback, screen reader for Android. I have activated ADB with sighted assistance, so I was able to install Talkback to the device using trustable apk file.
After this my assistant tried to turn TB on in accessibility settings, it is a classic accessibility service. It was however impossible to do so, because checkbox was overlapped by Talkback's description.
I have downloaded TB's source code from Github, rewritten its description to one letter and installed newly compiled version.
It has freed the checkbox to activate service, because of short text, but it is still impossible to activate it, it makes no reaction after tapping.
I am wondering, does someone have similar problem with this watch? Can you please give me a tip how to solve it?
I found on the net, that some Lollipop devices had issues with activating accessibility services, but solutions differed much with concrete model, so I am not sure what to do in my case.
I have also thought about rooting watch and activate TB by editing Android's settings file, but I am unable to find any root guides for NO.1 d6.
Thank you all in advance
Best regards
Rastislav
Hallo!
I've recently heard about ROMS,degoogling your Phone etc. and I bought this S10+ Phone. Is there a safe was to delete all bloatware,google Software and so on?
I've heard about GrapheneOS but unfortunately it's only for google devices so I was wondering what kind of solutions exist for this case. There are also phones with hardware kill switches but I'm a little bit skeptical about them.
Please tell me everything you know about this or the best pages to get an idea how to do so. I will be forever grateful
Science
This might help you:
Galaxy S10/S10+ Debloat / bloatware removal list
Please see my original post from the Galaxy S8 to see the XDA article on how to do this. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/s8-debloat-bloatware-thread-t3669009 New phone, new list! I've compiled a list of most of the bloatware...
forum.xda-developers.com
I feel you. The only google crap I (want to) use is Gmail and occasionally gmaps.
Unfortunately all of Android is created to serve its master... how can you separate the two?
Lol, Apple?
Proof that unlimited power corrupts ultimately.
Thanks for your replys. I will try it out
I've been using this for 3 years.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Karma Firewall (Playstore) stops the leaks and reduces battery drain by shutting Google, Samsung, etc up.
sciencebitches said:
Hallo!
I've recently heard about ROMS,degoogling your Phone etc. and I bought this S10+ Phone. Is there a safe was to delete all bloatware,google Software and so on?
I've heard about GrapheneOS but unfortunately it's only for google devices so I was wondering what kind of solutions exist for this case. There are also phones with hardware kill switches but I'm a little bit skeptical about them.
Please tell me everything you know about this or the best pages to get an idea how to do so. I will be forever grateful
Science
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If your s10+ is using an exynos cpu you can install lineage os. Lineage won't work on the snapdragon variants
sciencebitches said:
Hallo!
I've recently heard about ROMS,degoogling your Phone etc. and I bought this S10+ Phone. Is there a safe was to delete all bloatware,google Software and so on?
I've heard about GrapheneOS but unfortunately it's only for google devices so I was wondering what kind of solutions exist for this case. There are also phones with hardware kill switches but I'm a little bit skeptical about them.
Please tell me everything you know about this or the best pages to get an idea how to do so. I will be forever grateful
Science
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Hi there sciencebitches,
I realize your original post was from 2020 and its now March 2023 so maybe this is not something your interested in anymore... maybe you have a new phone, etc. But....
The Samsung phones that are sold in North America (either Canada or US) have locked bootloaders that cannot be unlocked. So you are stuck flashing Samsung firmware that is digitaly signed by Samsung.
However, if you get an international model then you can unlock the bootloader and load custom firmware. You have a couple of choices.
LineageOSWhen loading LineageOS, you can choose to load it with or without GApps. Loading it with GApps gives you all the same Google stuff, a library known as Google Play Services, as on normal Android. Loading LineageOS without GApps gives you no Google stuff whatsoever. This is what I am running on my SM-G975F – LineageOS without GApps.
LineageOS for microGThis gives you LineageOS with a substitute library called MicroG. The MicroG library is a reimplementation of the Google Play Services that some (a lot?) of Android apps require. So, if you need to use some apps that require Google Play Services but don’t want to be overrun with Google again, then MicroG is recommended. With “pure LineageOS” (sans GApps) you get no Google Play Services whatsoever.
/e/OSThis is another implementation of LineageOS with MicroG. It is fairly polished but tries to look like iOS and so feels somewhat un-Android like. I have no first-hand experience with /e/OS.
GrapheneOS and Calyx OSThere is also GrapheneOS and Calyx OS but I have no experience with those either. My understanding is they are along the same lines. I think that GrapheneOS comes with no Google Play Services and no MicroG (i.e. like “pure” LineageOS) but gives you the option of installing real Google Play Services (not MicroG) as a normal app as opposed to as a system app.
If you live in Canada I can help you get an international phone that you can install LineageOS or one of the others listed here.
Best regards,
The Fish
Want to start some research about this board. I know that JTC uses it in its TV sets, but its probably widely spread among OEM TVs.
To discover firmware I unpacked a update and found a file: CtvUpgrade.bin that starts with a list of partitions that are in its ROM.
Anyone knows more about the format or want to join me here?
Hi.
The board is a cultraview they like to have a custom OS from Zeasn on it.
To be recognized by the launcher cultraview_open_launcher.
This is built into cheap models.
You get to the hidden tv menu through input / source and then 2580.
I myself have a device from kb-elements with cultraview board and custom OS.
Oh, well - good to have a bro here
I could figure our already some thing in the Service Menu (Overscan, Reduce backlight further more).
But sill I just have quite a few questions:
Does your board allow record broadcast?
Could you get rid of the annoying "Energy waste" pop-ups if you increase volume?
Did you get root access to it?
A german bro.
No root is only possible with a root OS version which then has to be flashed Via USB.
This will void the guarantee.
Especially since at least for me it is an OS adapted by Zeasn.
I suspect that JTC is similar to kb-elements.
The file ctvupdate is only firmware for the board.
I would avoid the ctv mode at least when the backlight is deactivated.
Yeah, where are you from? I am not so afraid of guarantie. But I need to know more about. It would be cool to have a real Android, so where all apps will work. Widevine would be cool.
I've seen different update files for same TV with different serial numbers. Guess it is just the different panel. Would be great to separate android from the HW-specific stuff.
Does your TV allows recording?
Lower Saxony.
The cultraview board is often built into cheap devices.
Jtc / Jay tech, TCL, Hisens, KB elements.
Unfortunately, widevine is not on it and the Android is also an adapted "not Google" version.
Playstore ect are installed, if at all, which sometimes leads to problems.
Root access is also not possible. Unless you have an update for the USB stick and modefiert it for root access.
But that is beyond my knowledge.
Yes PVR works, even on a USB stick which sometimes does not work.
If necessary, it could also be activated in the service menu.
For me Playstore isn't working anymore. Although all other apps does have network it complains not to have it.
I manually updated to latest gsf and gms (Service Framework and Playservices for Android 9+) and also to the latest Playstore. I found that I have to install the Playstore for Android TV [8]. Installing the normal one [0] works, but after starting it complains with: This version is not compatible to device.
Nevertheless it keeps non operational with "no network". Help!
I am wondering what can prevent Playstore from working? Is it because of Android TV?
I am pretty sure the Android on this TV is far from perfect, but hey - why no PlayStore. I think once it worked.