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Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
Are you playing with the phone a lot? Like is your display always on? 4hrs still seems extream to me, I am rooted and runninng a custom rom, but even when I wasnt I never managed to get through the battery that quickly, and I use the phone a lot
Here's what I do to get good battery... I only keep backlight on like the a ****as hair..lol barely unless outside...... widgets are cool n all, but if there constantly updating thats polling your battery, live wallpapers are cool, but a battery drainer, I also keep gps, locations and bluetooth off unless using them, wifi also.. also the background applications setting uses battery but if ya want updating widgets no way around that...
Also look in seetings about phone, battery use and see what's eating your battery, I use my phone hours at a time so my display is most my battery drain which is normal, everything else is like 7 percent or less, mostly 2 or 3 percent. ....
I think thats all I do, but you may keep stuff on like widgets and that unfortunately eats battery..
I am running everything in my Sig. I have had my N1 for about 2 months now right around that. After a 14 to 16hr day with some heavy to mild usage I am still over 50%, but then again I have 3g turned off and i am only on Edge all the time since i am always around WiFi. So i would tell you 4 hours is a bit extreme but hang in there it does get better. I remember being around 25% for the 1st few weeks until it got better. Other wise do what Temperbad said that is the best way to go. Only widget i am running that updates every hour is my Weather one. Turn the screen all the way down unless it other wise needs to be up. I am sure that is what is killing your battery. Mine is always on the lowest setting until i am outside.
Sadly I'm rooted, but I will state my percentage too.
Weirdly, my display usage is only 15% on Paul's Desire ROM. Honestly I dont see how this may be - but that is what it says. My brightness is quite high too..
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
DarkDvr said:
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
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I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
PacoL250 said:
I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
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Thanks, this info I can use.
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Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I've read otherwise, though I don't think that Auto Brightness is the optimal battery saving setting.
Obviously it's a middle ground between max and low.
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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Wow... that's some serious battery life.
Ok, some questions..
1. screen brightness setting?
2. how long have u had that phone (battery) for? Did it improve over time?
3. Is it rooted/flashed or stock rom?
4. you got any syncing widgets running (RSS/twidroid)? Live wallpaper?
Thanks a bunch for your input!
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 13 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
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45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
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Sweet, thanks for the info. It seems my battery is also slowly "training" its way closer to these numbers.
DarkDvr said:
I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
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Your right... about the updating widgets and wallpaper, they do make the phone funner.. but why need gps on when not using, or bluetooth, or wifi? Just simply turn them on when using...
So much going on with this phone I can say its good pretty decent battery....
Anyone know how to make my gmail sync every hour instead of instantly?
When I got my Nexus my battery was just as poor, but after using it for a couple of weeks I'm getting about 10 hours usage with medium brightness, WiFi, and gps.
So just give it some time and it should fix it itself.
pikipirs said:
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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What battery meter do you use to tell the amount of hours left?
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Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
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Your phone or battery is defective. Call HTC for a replacement.
Ok... I was big into kernels, processes, everything on my N1 so I am quite familiar with tracking battery life by different means. I can provide the following information:
At 11:20pm, my phone was at 100% and had moderate signal and was connected to WiFi - full strength.
At 5:50am, my phone was at 83% battery with NO USAGE, not even the screen turned on once.
My Battery Use had the Android System at the top of the usage with ~30% usage. The CPU Usage was over 1h 30m!
The above is extremely odd since I didn't touch the phone. My N1 would've been <2 min.
In the Battery History CPU Usage section, SUSPEND was the only item with red and it was roughly 15% full.
The SUSPEND function, I believe, is the controller that suspends the functions of the phone so it can go to sleep. It should never use this much battery.
There are tons of packages in the Battery Use screen, which is weird. Some of the ones are: Settings Storage, RilFactoryApp, com.sec.android.app.lcdtest, AllShare, Error, Checkin Service, BluetoothTest, Perso, BrcmBluetoothServices, Com.samsung.InputEventApp, Sync Feeds, Settings, Factory Test, Network Location, VPN Services, Android System, WlanTest
A lot of these items (and more) show up in Advanced Task Manager, and they never existed on my N1.
I believe that destroying these services via ATM greatly improves battery life (even though generally it isn't needed in Android). After killing them all and keeping an eye on it, only 2 or 3 have respawned and my CPU usage is <1m which proportionally is much lower than the former experience.
Anyone have any ideas or input?
I've been trying to figure this out also...each battery had its on date on it..my first battery was june 21...my current one is june 28...my 6/28 battery also had a little qr barcode on it....
The 6/21 battery was pretty awful...today I'll be using my 6/28 battery for the first time...it was charged at 39% and 10 hours later overnight...it only lost 10% and is at 29% now...i must say that's pretty good because I was certain it would be dead in the morning. I'm gonna test it the next couple of days and see how it holds up....our issues may be as simple as getting the right production of batteries...wouldn't that be a relief? Lol
Or....i could just be crazy
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My only battery weirdness is that I turned off autobrightness and cranked the brightness and my battery life dramatically improved. Would get home form work and have 30%, now I have something like 50%...
No clue why unless using the light sensor or making the adjustments uses more juice than it should.
popypopy said:
My only battery weirdness is that I turned off autobrightness and cranked the brightness and my battery life dramatically improved. Would get home form work and have 30%, now I have something like 50%...
No clue why unless using the light sensor or making the adjustments uses more juice than it should.
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This isn't relevant to these problems though as I'm talking about standby time.
Oh and my android system is only at 3%
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Anyone else have any ideas?
good idea
I think it is a good idea to track running tasks.
Let us create a list of tasks for stock apps and the most often used off the market ones. Then everybody could decide for herself what apps to run. Being able to compare function and price (here battery drainage) is a great thing. The list might contain:
name of the app | the name as appeared in task managers | function | typical power drainage (high, moderate, low, or how many hours will battery last if only the app were running)
I think, the top post could be moderated as needed appropriately.
I don't know, but my battery life is pretty bad. Today I had the phone connected to my laptop via USB, and my laptop connected to the wall. I was using the phone and my battery percentage was STILL going down, even though it was plugged in!
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I don't know, but my battery life is pretty bad. Today I had the phone connected to my laptop via USB, and my laptop connected to the wall. I was using the phone and my battery percentage was STILL going down, even though it was plugged in!
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Well USB will always charge slow...
hah2110 said:
Well USB will always charge slow...
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Always plug the phone into the wall if you can. The USB from the laptop doesn't charge at the same rate.
I kill all my running apps that I don't need with ATM, then rid all unnecessary widgets, turn the brightness off of auto and on the lowest setting you prefer, turn off GSP, turn off Wifi, turn off Bluetooth and noticed a huge improvement.
iunlock said:
Always plug the phone into the wall if you can. The USB from the laptop doesn't charge at the same rate.
I kill all my running apps that I don't need with ATM, then rid all unnecessary widgets, turn the brightness off of auto and on the lowest setting you prefer, turn off GSP, turn off Wifi, turn off Bluetooth and noticed a huge improvement.
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Now you just need to reduce screen size by 80%, get rid of the touch interface and you have a Nokia 6110. I guaranty 7 days until the battery drains.
Some other ways to deal with battery life are:
a. Get a second battery.
b. Charge the damn thing once in a while.
That way, you can actually enjoy the smartphone and think less about killing processes and *****ing how bad the battery life is on forums.
I just rooted my Vibrant the other day and installed setCPU. I set the max to 800 and the min to 200 using the conservative setting and i noticed much better battery life the very next day. Having a 1ghz processor is awesome but it seems that default settings for this phone probably has it running at the rate possibly when the screen is off also.
al74 said:
Now you just need to reduce screen size by 80%, get rid of the touch interface and you have a Nokia 6110. I guaranty 7 days until the battery drains.
Some other ways to deal with battery life are:
a. Get a second battery.
b. Charge the damn thing once in a while.
That way, you can actually enjoy the smartphone and think less about killing processes and *****ing how bad the battery life is on forums.
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I'd have to go with this. Just some common sense will go along way. If you dont absolutely need the GPS, bluetooth, or WiFi turn them off (the phone even gives you a widget for it...). Even with the brightness at 0% its still darn bright.
Sure it requires a bit more input from the user but its still a darn good device.
popypopy said:
My only battery weirdness is that I turned off autobrightness and cranked the brightness and my battery life dramatically improved. Would get home form work and have 30%, now I have something like 50%...
No clue why unless using the light sensor or making the adjustments uses more juice than it should.
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Thats what i did and my battery life improved alot.
How much battery life are you guys getting on your Tab Pro 8.4? I bought mine couple of days back and I felt it's disappointing.
metaldood said:
How much battery life are you guys getting on your Tab Pro 8.4? I bought mine couple of days back and I felt it's disappointing.
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Mine has been fine. But, i use it to read and browse the web. I rarely make it down to 50% each day.
Cheers,
Rich
rholm said:
Mine has been fine. But, i use it to read and browse the web. I rarely make it down to 50% each day.
Cheers,
Rich
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What's your on-screen time in battery stats? Or maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage.
metaldood said:
What's your on-screen time in battery stats? Or maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage.
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It shows 2 hrs 10 minutes. I have 67% battery left.
Cheers,
Rich
What bugged me was the disappointing battery life when the screen was turned off (not completely powered off of course). Even in airplane mode it would die in a day or two just sitting around. Battery stats showed Android System and OS were killing the battery. I never figured out if there was a setting or something to fix it.
Instead I loaded Cyanogenmod 11 on it a week ago and now it uses only 3% of the battery a day when I'm not using it. I don't miss any of the Samsung extras.
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What bugged me was the disappointing battery life when the screen was turned off (not completely powered off of course). Even in airplane mode it would die in a day or two just sitting around. Battery stats showed Android System and OS were killing the battery. I never figured out if there was a setting or something to fix it.
Instead I loaded Cyanogenmod 11 on it a week ago and now it uses only 3% of the battery a day when I'm not using it. I don't miss any of the Samsung extras.
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Something must be keeping it awake. My tab has excellent standby battery life.
Doesnt lose more than 5% in a day. I do have the setting to turn wifi off when in sleep mode though (unless plugged in)
Battery life on the whole varies. Video watching through the stock video player drops about 10% an hour. Surfing would depend on your browsing habits. Gaming drains close to 20% an hour. Pretty standard. That along with the excellent stand by time means I get about 2 days of use on a charge.
Every day at work telephony, internet, email, IMO 24hours, 24hours Bluethooth Gear 2 connect. Dinner consists of my tablet battery 55%. For me life is great. My tablet root and frozen Samsung Apps (Bloatware) ... XDA .... Try the Nova launcher from the Play Store to Improve speed. Set it as your default launcher then Disable / Turn Off;
Flipboard, MagazineWidget, S Voice, Samsung Apps, Samsung Apps Widget, SapaMonitor, Screen Saver, World Clock, and (Hancom, Office for Android Share, Hcell, Hshow, Hword, Updater, Viewer Launcher, and Widget) if you do not plan on using it.
We will be adding Quadrant test 24,000 points on the original ROM.
Play google baterry doctor.
Battery life is good its an app thats draining the battery.
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rkial said:
Something must be keeping it awake. My tab has excellent standby battery life.
Doesnt lose more than 5% in a day. I do have the setting to turn wifi off when in sleep mode though (unless plugged in)
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Yes it was using as much battery as watching a movie with the screen on. Something was terribly wrong with it. I think this behavior started after a software update I got from Samsung.
I turned everything off including Wifi and it was still eating the battery while sitting there with the screen off. I have never seen that with any Android device I've ever owned.
But I'm happy with Cyanogenmod. Battery life is outstanding now.
My battery life was mediocre, and then I put cyanogenmod on, and it went to dreadful. With the tablet at 100% and OFF, untouched, it would be 20% down in 10 hours. In contrast, my iPad loses maybe 3% in that time, doing the same thing - tracking email.
I ran a wakelock tracker and noticed that Exchange Services has it awake about half the time. The total time. Like in 10 hours Exchange had it awake (with screen off) more than five hours. Effen ay. Something is seriously screwed up with how Cyanogenmod's Exchange talks to the two Exchange services I use. Switching from Push to "5 minutes" has helped significantly; Exchange is still the worst culprit, but now only by a factor of four rather than a few hundred.
Ideally what I'd like is the new Exchange apks modified to prevent admin and fixed to be less wakelock intensive.
rkial said:
Something must be keeping it awake. My tab has excellent standby battery life.
Doesnt lose more than 5% in a day. I do have the setting to turn wifi off when in sleep mode though (unless plugged in)
Battery life on the whole varies. Video watching through the stock video player drops about 10% an hour. Surfing would depend on your browsing habits. Gaming drains close to 20% an hour. Pretty standard. That along with the excellent stand by time means I get about 2 days of use on a charge.
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What is your on-screen time during the 2 days?
Wotta said:
I ran a wakelock tracker and noticed that Exchange Services has it awake about half the time. The total time. Like in 10 hours Exchange had it awake (with screen off) more than five hours. Effen ay. Something is seriously screwed up with how Cyanogenmod's Exchange talks to the two Exchange services I use. Switching from Push to "5 minutes" has helped significantly; Exchange is still the worst culprit, but now only by a factor of four rather than a few hundred.
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Cyanogenmod has their own version of Exchange?
Our Exchange servers at work are ridiculously slow and unreliable. They can take two minutes to return your mail which is a major drain on your battery if it's set to check it every five minutes and you get a lot of mail. Sometimes they'll just stop responding and leave you hanging. The IT people just tell you to keep trying and you'll get your mail eventually.
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What is your on-screen time during the 2 days?
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Dunno.. 7-8 hrs I guess. Screen on time really doesnt mean much without any context.
I can get 12hrs+ watching videos on 20% brightness. I can kill it in 4 hrs playing games at 100%.
Like I said, the standby is excellent. Drains less than 10% in 2 days. So for me, I have about 90% to use over 2 days.. and from my experience,
video drains less than 10%/hr
gaming ~20%
reading books drains less than video.
General surfing, mails, social networking uses between 10-15% depending on how you are using it.
My brightness is usually around 40%. Goes up rarely when I'm using it bright conditions. Goes lower when I'm reading late at night
Should give you an indication of what you can expect from the battery depending on your usage..
Mine drains about 10% per hour while constantly using the device for light tasks, such as reading, web surfing, and watching some YT videos here and there. That increases to about 15%/hour when I watch movies. So after watching a 2 hour movie, I expect to see about 70-75% of battery left. Now if I'm listening to music for an hour at the gym with the screen turned off, it only drains about 3%.
At first, I thought that was pretty mediocre and felt disappointed. But I've taken my tablet with me on many trips and never had it die (usually just close to 20%). I rarely ever use my external battery pack. I know this will vary depending on how long the trip is and how much you're using it, but I'm just saying that it meets my needs despite having a lower battery life compared to some other tablets. I do all I can to extend it, but I don't have to constantly watch it.
Last night I charged the tab 100% and with Wifi off (sync for 1 min every hour. )
Today the battery is at 71% - On battery 13hours - 44 mins
27% Android OS
24% Google services
13% Android System
8% Onscreen time - 20 mins
Should I flash CM to fix this?
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Last night I charged the tab 100% and with Wifi off (sync for 1 min every hour. )
Today the battery is at 71% - On battery 13hours - 44 mins
27% Android OS
24% Google services
13% Android System
8% Onscreen time - 20 mins
Should I flash CM to fix this?
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CM won't fix that. Install Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to nail down the precise problem. If you're using them, it could be Exchange Services or Google Drive (yeah, that turkey wakelocked me to oblivion!), at which point you at least know what to attack.
You can find BB on XDA here and WakeLock Detector on XDA here, both are also in the Play Store.
Wotta said:
CM won't fix that. Install Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to nail down the precise problem. If you're using them, it could be Exchange Services or Google Drive (yeah, that turkey wakelocked me to oblivion!), at which point you at least know what to attack.
You can find BB on XDA here and WakeLock Detector on XDA here, both are also in the Play Store.
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Google search with 23 mins of wake time and Gmail with 6 mins.
Currently Deep sleep is 14 hr 26 mins. Total time is 17h 5m. Awake is 2h 39m. Screen on time - 27mins.
I added the google now widget a couple of weeks back and that caused some wakelocks and overnight battery drain. Removed it and didn't have the problem.
The battery life is pretty good for me. Was out a lot, so had wifi off for large parts.. watched videos (from device), read some books, played some Asphalt (not much.. around 30 mins) and some browsing/mails..
Got 11 hrs screen on over 2.5 days and still have 15% left.
Yeah was indoors so the brightness was never over a third (~30%) and reading books really doesnt drain much battery(especially if its at night and you turn the brightness further down)..
I'm not saying people will get 10+hrs screen on with their device and usage constantly.. 8hrs would be realistic.. but the point is, the battery is a lot better than I had originally expected.
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I ran a wakelock tracker and noticed that Exchange Services has it awake about half the time.
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I have this same problem - except my GTP is 100% stock, unrooted. I can go into Settings/Battery to see that Exchange Services is chewing my battery. It will die in less than 24 hours, even if I don't use it - as long as it has a WiFi connection. I think if I turn off WiFi, it will stop attempting to sync and the battery will last "normally". I don't know for sure, though, as I haven't tried. I'm not interested in a tablet with no network connection or even without my email.
I'm going to cut a VERY long story short (at least, here) and say that I have spent several hours logging the ActiveSync traffic between my tab and my server, poring over the logs, and I have identified the problem. It's one particular item that is failing to sync, which causes the tablet to retry the sync every 1 second. The sync failure causes the server to log an internal server exception every time - despite the ActiveSync requests from the tablet being correct. I also found a Microsoft KB article that appears to address this exact problem, and MS has a hotfix available for it.
I have talked to Tech Support at my hosted Exchange provider and they have confirmed with their operations staff that my server does not have the MS patch that is referenced in the KB article installed. Unfortunately, they are giving me a bit of the runaround on installing it. I only have one mailbox hosted with them, so I have no pull. They sound like Verizon. "We have to thoroughly test this update in our lab before we can install it on your server." And "nobody else has reported this problem and we can't put too much time into a problem that only one user is experiencing."
So, I am now just waiting for them to install it on my Exchange server and see if it really does fix the problem for me. If it does, I will be posting about it on XDA and the AC forums, as a Google search showed me that a lot of people, with a lot of different Android devices, have this same problem and nobody seems to know what's really going on or how to fix it. I will try to remember to post back in the GTP General subforum specifically, too, so stay tuned.
My battery life seems to be getting better as the battery gets some more charges on it.
Sounds basic / silly, but i simply put mine in battery saver mode and that made a big difference with little effect on performance
Hello,
So I've had the V20 since it first came out and I'm loving it. With the stock battery, I'd charge it every night and not notice many issues. Noticed a respectable 3-4 hours of SOT, which is decent but not spectacular. Then i got the Zerolemon 10,000mAh extended battery for it and I still feel like the phone doesn't have the battery life it should. With the extended battery in, I would sometimes leave it unplugged overnight and lose 15-18% (which, in a 3x battery, correlates to almost 50% of a stock battery) in just one night. So i'm wondering, any apps/servies that just guzzle battery overnight? Any info is a help, thanks!
Good possibility that the new battery you have may be junk.
But you'll have to pop the stock battery in and do battery usage comparisons between the two.
Have you calibrated the Zero Lemon battery? Run it all the way down until it turns off the phone. Pull the battery and then put it back in turn the phone back on to make sure the battery is drained all the way.
Then recharge it without disturbing it. Recommend doing this overnight.
Also make sure you aren't switching batteries once you've got the lemon calibrated otherwise your battery gauge won't read accurately.
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evo4g63t said:
Have you calibrated the Zero Lemon battery? Run it all the way down until it turns off the phone. Pull the battery and then put it back in turn the phone back on to make sure the battery is drained all the way.
Then recharge it without disturbing it. Recommend doing this overnight.
Also make sure you aren't switching batteries once you've got the lemon calibrated otherwise your battery gauge won't read accurately.
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Yeah i might have to, i've been trying to avoid that. I honestly think that it's the phone not the battery, because when i leave it alone overnight it loses like 12-16%. Losing that even off a stock battery is ridiculous so i figured it was something with the phone that caused it to run all night without dozing. i read up on some threads about wakelocks after installing GSam and seeing that the phone is held awake quite a lot (as i type this, i'm sitting on 72%, 13h16m of usage, 3h5m SOT, and 4h28m held awake. So i honestly think it's the phone, but then again if i do drain it down then do a battery pull and it jumps up to 30-40%, then i'll know it was the battery
Also, would you recommend once the phone shuts off plugging it in and leaving it off, or turning it back on once i plug it in?
cavanaughnick said:
Also, would you recommend once the phone shuts off plugging it in and leaving it off, or turning it back on once i plug it in?
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Don't think its the battery, it's highly likely the ROM you're using. I had terrible life after the last update.
MidtownHD said:
Don't think its the battery, it's highly likely the ROM you're using. I had terrible life after the last update.
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I'm running bone stock on everything, no root
Update: been getting significantly better battery life after doing two things:
1. Turned off Bluetooth location scanning (I already had WiFi scanning turned off).
2. Using my phone without WiFi on (on the chance that it might be the WiFi causing wakelocks, which is something I researched a bit with the help of GSam. Wifioffdelayifnotused was the suspected culprit).
I'm not sure which one could be the bigger factor, but I'm going to leave my phone unplugged overnight with WiFi off, then after tomorrow night when i charge it fully again I'm going to see how much battery life I get with WiFi on (this way I should be able to determine if it was the Bluetooth scanning, or the WiFi.)
Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
Had a zerolemon on my Galaxy S4 and while it was a great battery that added a lot of additional life, I never felt I got enough extra life that corresponded to the amount of mAh that the zerolemon brought. Though it wasn't anything like what you are describing. Just never felt like I got 3x the battery life even though it was like 3x the mAh amount but maybe that's just because I don't understand the whole science behind the mAh ratings on batteries.
Update part 2: turning off the Bluetooth scanning and Wifi (only yesterday, had wifi on today) has resulted in much better battery life so far. Oddly enough, early on it seemed a lot better, on pace for almost 15 hours SOT. I'm at 18% now and almost at 10, but still pretty good and better than what I was getting. I'm chalking it up to the Bluetooth scanning since I use an Android wear watch that I leave always connected. I'll do another full drain tomorrow after charging it tonight, this time leaving wifi on to see how much of a difference the Bluetooth scanning makes (3rd pic is early on when I was on pace for 15h SOT; left phone unplugged last night and stayed at 64% all night. So my 12-18% overnight drain (40-ish% on stock battery) problem is cured )
hi
my v20 phone battery draining was about 1% per hour before (about 7% totally ) and recently increased to 2% during sleeping time overnight. (draining 15% overnight in sleeping state) .this situation's screenshot is attached and named : Screenshot_2018_01_21_07_05_15.
it seems that during day either performance off battery is decreased.(about 5h with wifi and screen on usage)
Fast charging while second screen is On , is slower than when it is off therefore when second screen is Off , fast charging goes better . exactly , first 30 mins fast charging makes about 40% battery charge(instead of 50%) and after 60 min leads to 85% and full charging taking place after about 100 min instead of 80 mins.
another important thing is that sometimes shades have been seen on the LCD that many users have complained about it.
phone information is :
Android security patch level: September 1, 2017
BASEBAND : MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00045-M8996FAAAANAZM-1
KERNEL : 3.18.31
BUILD NUMBER : NRD90M
SOFTWARE VERSION : V10g-AME-XX
MODEL NUMBER : LG-H990ds
my actions are as follows :
phone is factory reseted. No third party apps is installed. [especially social media apps.]
battery calibration steps for not rooted phones is taken place.(turning off the phone and charging several times repeatedly).
testing battery drain in safe mode in done and didn't change results
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
turn off WiFi being On during screen is Off.
turn off auto sync, NFC, GPS etc.
not using auto brightness.
not using comfort view .
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
second screen is off during test overnight. (either with second screen is ON with faced down to lower brightness in other day test [this situation's screenshot is attached and named : Screenshot_2018_01_21_07_49_27] )
phone is in Air Plane Mode and all data services is off.
system apps like Google services and Play and Assistance is limited by permissions.
following are some advanced battery drain overnight figures of my phone for more analyzing.
any help with this issue is appreciated.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Moto Z2 Force before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I haven't been able to just drain the battery with this screen time from full to 80% in battery saver mode trying to get every drop out of the phone. This wasn't heavy gaming or CPU intensive stuff, just YouTube and some social media. Still great time compared to the sot of my M9
4 hours on the first full drain.
I've managed to get from 100% to 8% with screen on time being about 5 and a half hours with only using the battery saving from 15% I'd add my screen shot but I'm unsure how you add them on here
Okay but I've been listening to music since 7:00 this morning and I'm at 53% now ( it's 4:00 so it's been about 9 hours )
IDK if this helped me at all but I used root booster and used stability boost
4 hours and 5mins for my first full drain using all features in Greenify with aggressive doze. Also have L Speed installed suing it's balanced profile.
I've hit 5hrs SOT for my 1st three days of owning this device in a row.
Hello all, I am the new owner of Tmobile Z2 force. I have owned this device for a month. There is something I like to say about battery life. For those who are experiencing short battery life, there is something consuming the battery. I have found the cause.
On the homescreen on stock launcher:
Clock widget- if you tap the tiny weather icon above the time in the clock widget, the weather app opens up. Then click the three horizontal line menu on the top left of the app. A pop-out menu is open. Then click on weather settings. As you can see, the current location enables by default. This option causes using GPS constantly; it's like a live GPS constantly. This drains the battery so much. Toggle it off and manually add the location helps battery life much better by a huge margin.
On the system menu:
Connected Devices tab- toggle off the NFC and Bluetooth for those of you who don't use them very much. It also drains the battery too.
Security & location tab- Click on location. Then click on scanning. From there, you can see WIFI and Bluetooth scanning. Toggle both of these off. It drains battery like crazy.
Mode: There are different kind of mode- high accuracy, battery saving, and device only. I use battery saving mode. I test with device only, it consumes battery more than high accuracy, but not battery saving mode. Only use high accuracy if you rely on google map navigation a lot. My opinion...
After changing those settings, I was able to get 4 hours and half of screen on time at the most with 17 to 18 hours on battery AT 50% level in the end of the day. I did not charge halfway. That is pretty amazing for this tiny 2700 mah given in this phone. I'm blown away.
I also like to mention that I am a light to moderate user. I use 9gag, chrome (occasionally), greader (rss reader), whatsapp, youtube (occasionally), google hangout, ip webcam, gmail, outlook, and skype for business.
There are several factors that affects the battery life such as bad wifi. In my work, there is a wifi, but it drains my phone like hell. My wifi at home doesn't drain my phone battery. It's easy on it. That's something to look out for.
crazy1990 said:
Hello all, I am the new owner of Tmobile Z2 force. I have owned this device for a month. There is something I like to say about battery life. For those who are experiencing short battery life, there is something consuming the battery. I have found the cause.
On the homescreen on stock launcher:
Clock widget- if you tap the tiny weather icon above the time in the clock widget, the weather app opens up. Then click the three horizontal line menu on the top left of the app. A pop-out menu is open. Then click on weather settings. As you can see, the current location enables by default. This option causes using GPS constantly; it's like a live GPS constantly. This drains the battery so much. Toggle it off and manually add the location helps battery life much better by a huge margin.
On the system menu:
Connected Devices tab- toggle off the NFC and Bluetooth for those of you who don't use them very much. It also drains the battery too.
Security & location tab- Click on location. Then click on scanning. From there, you can see WIFI and Bluetooth scanning. Toggle both of these off. It drains battery like crazy.
Mode: There are different kind of mode- high accuracy, battery saving, and device only. I use battery saving mode. I test with device only, it consumes battery more than high accuracy, but not battery saving mode. Only use high accuracy if you rely on google map navigation a lot. My opinion...
After changing those settings, I was able to get 4 hours and half of screen on time at the most with 17 to 18 hours on battery AT 50% level in the end of the day. I did not charge halfway. That is pretty amazing for this tiny 2700 mah given in this phone. I'm blown away.
I also like to mention that I am a light to moderate user. I use 9gag, chrome (occasionally), greader (rss reader), whatsapp, youtube (occasionally), google hangout, ip webcam, gmail, outlook, and skype for business.
There are several factors that affects the battery life such as bad wifi. In my work, there is a wifi, but it drains my phone like hell. My wifi at home doesn't drain my phone battery. It's easy on it. That's something to look out for.
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Thank you so much. You cannot believe how drastically my battery life improved. I was barely getting 2 and half screen on time. You are a savior. Thanks again.
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sastheayubian said:
Thank you so much. You cannot believe how drastically my battery life improved. I was barely getting 2 and half screen on time. You are a savior. Thanks again.
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No problem. Glad to help.
crazy1990 said:
Hello all, I am the new owner of Tmobile Z2 force. I have owned this device for a month. There is something I like to say about battery life. For those who are experiencing short battery life, there is something consuming the battery. I have found the cause.
On the homescreen on stock launcher:
Clock widget- if you tap the tiny weather icon above the time in the clock widget, the weather app opens up. Then click the three horizontal line menu on the top left of the app. A pop-out menu is open. Then click on weather settings. As you can see, the current location enables by default. This option causes using GPS constantly; it's like a live GPS constantly. This drains the battery so much. Toggle it off and manually add the location helps battery life much better by a huge margin.
On the system menu:
Connected Devices tab- toggle off the NFC and Bluetooth for those of you who don't use them very much. It also drains the battery too.
Security & location tab- Click on location. Then click on scanning. From there, you can see WIFI and Bluetooth scanning. Toggle both of these off. It drains battery like crazy.
Mode: There are different kind of mode- high accuracy, battery saving, and device only. I use battery saving mode. I test with device only, it consumes battery more than high accuracy, but not battery saving mode. Only use high accuracy if you rely on google map navigation a lot. My opinion...
After changing those settings, I was able to get 4 hours and half of screen on time at the most with 17 to 18 hours on battery AT 50% level in the end of the day. I did not charge halfway. That is pretty amazing for this tiny 2700 mah given in this phone. I'm blown away.
I also like to mention that I am a light to moderate user. I use 9gag, chrome (occasionally), greader (rss reader), whatsapp, youtube (occasionally), google hangout, ip webcam, gmail, outlook, and skype for business.
There are several factors that affects the battery life such as bad wifi. In my work, there is a wifi, but it drains my phone like hell. My wifi at home doesn't drain my phone battery. It's easy on it. That's something to look out for.
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Thank you very much, I just bought my phone and was a little disappointed with battery life, GPS is a real battery drainer.
i kinda wish active use went into battery stats, because i stream podcasts and music all day at work, at the end of my day my phone is somewhere around 40% and only has like 2hrs of SOT but has been on "standby" for close to 18-20 hours by the time i plug it in at night
Great SOT
I'm very happy with this phone, durable, slim, blazing fast and modular.
For one of the thinnest phone with SD835 im very pleased with battery life.
Screenshot with Oreo Update
Normal use, spotify for an hour or so, a lot of instagram, some facebook and twitter, and Youtube over bluetooth on my car, moderate web browsing without using battery saver and remaining 8% of battery
I have over 7h sot by watching videos, playing music and messaging by using 5GHz Wifi, mobile network in standby. Rest of battery by 25%.
Here screenshot, hope it's working now. Have do it convert to jpg.
Ok, don't work. But, 7h, 13m is the sot.
This phone inpressed me with SOT! I owned a Moto Z and battrey was a dissapointment. While this has a 2750mah battrey it cant be much better than this!Planning to buy a powermod but now its not needed:angel:
Getting 8Hrs+ SOT on Oreo :laugh:
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Yes, it's great. Much better as on my old phone. Sure the 10nm chip is here very helpful. And the OLED panel, which is much better as just Full HD. I see a big difference between just 400dpi and this. Watching film on this, so important. I'm short-sighted, so I can really see it. My battery had 2733mAh at the beginning and now 2705mAh after last security update. What's you capacity?
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My battery had 2733mAh at the beginning and now 2705mAh after last security update. What's you capacity?
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How to check ..?
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For example with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.devcheck
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How to check ..?
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Screen on time is excellent! I'm quite surprised and impressed because the phone's battery isn't that large.
Regularly getting between 5 and 6 hours SOT!
My highscore: 6:58 :laugh: