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Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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I've heard this complain before but I don't seem to have this issue.. or perhaps I'm color blind or something lol.
I do intend to not have much yellow more so red and black on my screen than anything..
Is it really THAT MUCH of a nuisance?
it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Has this been fixed with firmware updates or now that custom roms are able to be loaded?
Or is the screen just that terrible?
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
Supposedly pentile screens also have advantages with sunlight visibility.My wife has an HTC Desire S, and it is literally unviewable in the Sun and yet mine remained completely usable and clear. She was not impressed and I was left gloating
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it is really annoying, and unfortunately i'm pretty sure it's hardware-based due to the PenTile display. there are plenty of previous discussions on this so please search back and read up on it there.
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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It's not terrible for me. It's just the way our screen is.
Our screen was built for -> battery saving, that's why color reproduction has problems.
And for me the choice paid off, I am getting the best battery life than with any android smartphone.
If color reproduction was more important to you, you shouldn't have bought an Atrix.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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You're getting the best battery life of any android phone because you have the biggest battery of any android phone LOL
And there is no reason in the world why inaccurate color reproduction would EVER result in better battery life. Unless of course you're talking about switching a screen to black and white.
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He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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He was saying that the screen technology on the ATRIX gave it better battery life. Not the color errors. Clearly.
I haven't noticed any colour reproduction errors.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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Im well aware of the problem and there is no need for me to do a search. This is why I'm asking if the problem has been addressed. Doing a search will only net me what I already know as no one talks about this issue anymore.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Its too bad some color panel hidden behind the scenes couldn't be accessed to correct the color. It would have been a top contender for some time to come. Love how big the battery is.
Have they ported cm7 to it yet? Are they still doing the 2nd init hack or has the bootloader been unlocked?
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No need for 2nd init...
Bootloader has been unlocked for a couple of months now.
CM7 is in early beta stages right now.
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wasn't trying to upset you.
but if we're on that wave, if you're well aware of the problem and searching only netted you no new answers, what did you expect asking would do? net you more non-new answers.
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You're wasting mine and everyone else's time.
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Monochrome ftw.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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The Atrix screen indeed makes everything a little "bluer" (are your yellows slightly green?).
I read that in CM7 you can alter the color scheme a little bit, or there's an app that can also do this...I'd have to search a little bit to find what I'm talking about, but I'll post a link in just a sec.
Edit: this is what I was thinking of...Might not be exactly what you're looking for, as it requires you to have CM7 it looks like (not that that's a bad thing, but of course it's still in pre-beta and you might not want to use it). It's a start though, and gives you a little more info.
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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BravoMotorola said:
It's an unfixable hardware "problem".
It not a huge deal (can't really tell a huge difference)
Who cares.
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Read the post above yours lol
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This is excellent information and essentially a fix to the problem. I may pick up an Atrix for this very post right here!!! Thank you for the info!!!!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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Lol sure thing. Just remember that, from what I can gather, it requires you to use the CM7 ROM (which in turn requires unlocked bootloader, etc. etc.) so make sure to look into all that first!
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The only thing I use is cm7 so not to worry
I just need to ask around about a couple of other things about the Atrix before I decide to buy one again.
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The atrix is the bomb diggity yo.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
We all know that some of the color looks washed when we watch in a diff angle , also the head on looks sometimes may not look great since BE2 is not applied all time .
not sure if this works as I dont have a rooted phone ( dont plan to root till 4.2 ) can anyone test this on their rooted phone and post results and reviews please?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol&feature=search_result
this appears to work very well with the Nexus4 hope should work on the XZ too
awaiting positive results
does this work?? any conformation..
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does this work?? any conformation..
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That is what I want someone to try as my XZ is not rooted and this app requires root..
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That is what I want someone to try as my XZ is not rooted and this app requires root..
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I can't even download it... My device is not compatible..
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This app is incompatible with your SingTel Sony C6603. Sadly.
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We all know that some of the color looks washed when we watch in a diff angle , also the head on looks sometimes may not look great since BE2 is not applied all time .
not sure if this works as I dont have a rooted phone ( dont plan to root till 4.2 ) can anyone test this on their rooted phone and post results and reviews please?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol&feature=search_result
this appears to work very well with the Nexus4 hope should work on the XZ too
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Try screen adjuster. Does not require root.
Tried it. It doesn't work. Gives an error everyone you try run it
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It won't work more than likely because it is based on the Nexus 4 hardware.
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Tried it. It doesn't work. Gives an error everyone you try run it
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No error on mine(stock rom). However not really good at adjusting the screen color.
Adjusted as per image. Picture shown the with and without.
argh2000 said:
No error on mine(stock rom). However not really good at adjusting the screen color.
Adjusted as per image. Picture shown the with and without.
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If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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done, thank you. The angle view does seems to be better.
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If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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Wow, call it placebo or whatnot, but it seems as though it helps to some extent! (maybe it's just me) O_O!
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If you just want to deal with the view angle problem, set the system brightness higher (80% or higher), and set the brightness of the screen adjuster to 50%~70%, nothing else. Then the view angle will be amazing, but you will also find very little blue tint when displaying white color
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yep that helps to a certain extent thanks for finding,,
Hello,
I picked up my GS4 about a week ago but haven't really used it in direct sunlight until today. I was outside, and the sun was shining brightly on the screen. Home screen was fine, and darker images were ok, but if I were to go to an app with a primarily white background, or open up something which used the keyboard (texting) the screen would flicker pretty noticeably. Brightness is all the way up, and auto tone was off.
Has anyone else seen this?
yup this is normal esp when using the keyboard.
Im not sure if it will be fixed.
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Hello,
I picked up my GS4 about a week ago but haven't really used it in direct sunlight until today. I was outside, and the sun was shining brightly on the screen. Home screen was fine, and darker images were ok, but if I were to go to an app with a primarily white background, or open up something which used the keyboard (texting) the screen would flicker pretty noticeably. Brightness is all the way up, and auto tone was off.
Has anyone else seen this?
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richard371 said:
Im not sure if it will be fixed.
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I guess my question is, is this a hardware issue with many GS4's or a minority. I came across a thread on the Tmobile GS4 forum where people were experiencing it, but it seems not everyone is.
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I guess my question is, is this a hardware issue with many GS4's or a minority. I came across a thread on the Tmobile GS4 forum where people were experiencing it, but it seems not everyone is.
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I actually noticed for the first time today too..
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Its a hardware thing, but also its only in touchwiz so a developer might be able to turn it off so to speak.
It adjusts the color and tone no matter what to save the display from overheating and or burning in...
Does it a lot and I notice it cause im weird about those kinds of things.
If you use CM 10.1 or AOKP its gone.
ive made some progress with the RGB light meter on this; hoping a friend can write up some code so we can test out a 'smoothed out' transition and sampling rate and one that is sped up, averaged faster, but will take up more CPU and RAM and battery but more accurate.
here is another thread regarding it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280715
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284726
Maybe if someone who is using CM10 or AOKP could test it to see if it is a software issues and not a hardware issue?
edit: slade and jet replied while I was writing this...thanks for the info. looks like it is touchwiz related.
edit2: just went out in the sun again to test a lot of different options in the display settings (which none worked) but is seems it is only happening when the keyboard is enabled. I am using swiftkey.
yeah TW and that sensor communicate; i believe the sensor itself probably works better ALONE, but TW changes it and throttles it for either battery or screen safety.
It is always dependent on what is being pulled up on the screen, though it can be mitigated quite a bit if you disable all power saving and screen auto features, and leave brightness under 80% or so.
yea anything under 80% in direct sun is basically black. all power saving and screen auto modes were disabled. i covered up all of the sensors too and it still flickered....
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yea anything under 80% in direct sun is basically black. all power saving and screen auto modes were disabled. i covered up all of the sensors too and it still flickered....
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Not just a sensor thing per-say.
It's hard to explain, they most likely did it because they didn't want the amoled to burn in.
Its the same reason why the brightness goes up another 34% or so on auto above the max brightness. Only uses it when needed to save the screen and battery.
Does it on youtube too btw, bring up a video on wide screen then tap it and you'll see the drastic color shift
I noticed this thing when I got my phone also. I thought I was just imagining it but I guess it's an actual problem
geoldr said:
I noticed this thing when I got my phone also. I thought I was just imagining it but I guess it's an actual problem
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'its not a problem, its a feature'
-Steve Jobs
Seriously its about power handling/battery saving and white balance, but its noticeable, and annoying.
Slade8525 said:
'its not a problem, its a feature'
-Steve Jobs
Seriously its about power handling/battery saving and white balance, but its noticeable, and annoying.
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Yep, looking into a whole bunch of stuff, just installed ubuntu so maybe I can compile something; gonna look deep into the framework.
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Yep, looking into a whole bunch of stuff, just installed ubuntu so maybe I can compile something; gonna look deep into the framework.
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Thanks, let me know if you figure anything out.
Open camera in direct sun and it flickers too..
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This is so annoying. Does anyone on touch wiz not experience this?
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This is so annoying. Does anyone on touch wiz not experience this?
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No that's not possible, its hard coded into touchwiz, this isn't a bug or anything...
If people say they don't have it; they're not noticing it.
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No that's not possible, its hard coded into touchwiz, this isn't a bug or anything...
If people say they don't have it; they're not noticing it.
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Gotcha
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Thought my eyes were going crazy. Mine does this too. It even did it once under some fluorescent lights. It's not annoying enough to matter but it would be cool if it gets fixed.
Hi lovely guys of the Note 3 forum!!
I've had my Note 3 for some time now and I was wondering if my screen is defect since it does act a little weird. I hope you can clarify this for me
Whenever I put my screen on low brightness, the screen tend to leave a trail of purple color behind whenever I scroll/move something. It'd be very nice if anyone with a Note 3 could test this for me, if u are having the same problem or if it's just me
A good way to test this, is to set brightness to 0% and then pull the notificationcenter down and try to swipe the notifications away slowly and look closely, if u can find some purple trail leaving behind the swiping object. To see this clearly, you can download the app Lux and set the brightness to sub-zero. Try -50% and it should be very easy to see. Would mean a ton to me if you could report back. I need to return my device asap if it's defect.
Thank you very much!! <3
EDIT: Here is a video of the problem!
Rallerbabz said:
Hi lovely guys of the Note 3 forum!!
I've had my Note 3 for some time now and I was wondering if my screen is defect since it does act a little weird. I hope you can clarify this for me
Whenever I put my screen on low brightness, the screen tend to leave a trail of purple color behind whenever I scroll/move something. It'd be very nice if anyone with a Note 3 could test this for me, if u are having the same problem or if it's just me
A good way to test this, is to set brightness to 0% and then pull the notificationcenter down and try to swipe the notifications away slowly and look closely, if u can find some purple trail leaving behind the swiping object. To see this clearly, you can download the app Lux and set the brightness to sub-zero. Try -50% and it should be very easy to see. Would mean a ton to me if you could report back. I need to return my device asap if it's defect.
Thank you very much!! <3
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Nope just tested mine is fine no purple at all
Just turn off or switch off "development setting" and try again, if not, return the device.
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Nope just tested mine is fine no purple at all
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Thank you so much for testing this! I wasnt quite sure if I was too critical or if there actually is something wrong. This might goes hand in hand with the battery drain that I am having when I am using the phone(idling is superb tho)
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Just turn off or switch off "development setting" and try again, if not, return the device.
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Hey, thanks for your reply!
I'm unable to find development settings in touchwiz's new settings-layout. Could you help me out here?
You dont have the problem that I am describing as well?
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Thank you so much for testing this! I wasnt quite sure if I was too critical or if there actually is something wrong. This might goes hand in hand with the battery drain that I am having when I am using the phone(idling is superb tho)
Hey, thanks for your reply!
I'm unable to find development settings in touchwiz's new settings-layout. Could you help me out here?
You dont have the problem that I am describing as well?
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Settings, about, build number hit it 5 times
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Settings, about, build number hit it 5 times
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Okay thanks..
I just turned it..on it said. Nothing changes really, didnt expect it to do either, but how do I turn it back off?
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Okay thanks..
I just turned it..on it said. Nothing changes really, didnt expect it to do either, but how do I turn it back off?
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Don't think you can don't worry about it
Hey guys!
Just to confirm we're talking about the same thing, here is a video I took of the problem
EDIT: Seems like I've discovered a general issue with S4/Note3; Ghosting/smearing. God damnit, this is annoying. The shop will probably not even take it back now. ****..
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I can't see this at zero brightness. I even installed lux and set it to subzero, and I still can't see it. I'm using an SM-900T.
I think I know what you are talking about. I also believe my smartphone has same problem. As an example if you download BBC News application,then scroll down to end of page and pull further you will see this tail of light appear. It also does this in the settings page when you scrol up or down but you have to get to bottom or top of page and pull further
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I think I know what you are talking about. I also believe my smartphone has same problem. As an example if you download BBC News application,then scroll down to end of page and pull further you will see this tail of light appear. It also does this in the settings page when you scrol up or down but you have to get to bottom or top of page and pull further
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Not sure if that was sarcasm... BEcause I hope it was.
That's the replacement for the 'bounce at end of page' that Apple successfully sued Samsung over. It now glows.
exactly the same problem with mine. fast moving UI elements leave a purple trail behind them.
could it be that some batches of screen are affected and some are not? it doesn't bother me too much though.
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here is a way to check if it is affecting you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46039769&postcount=6
With tiny fonts in a really really dark room with really really low brightness I notice this. Lets bring on some more make believe "issues"... HAHA
As you can see by both images, 1 was auto flash and one was flash on, they both fired the flash even the auto one but for some reason it's weak and looks crap, I do not recommend using auto flash on this phone, it seems in auto mode it fires at the wrong time!
I avoid using the flash on a phone if at all possible, they never work well.
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I avoid using the flash on a phone if at all possible, they never work well.
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I've never had a problem on any phone when using auto flash, only when I've used some third party camera apps it's not fired correctly but not with the stock app, i even got an update for the camera a couple of days ago and that hasn't fixed it either.
I've just sent feedback to Google, does anyone know how to attach images for Google to look at with feedback reports?
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As you can see by both images, 1 was auto flash and one was flash on, they both fired the flash even the auto one but for some reason it's weak and looks crap, I do not recommend using auto flash on this phone, it seems in auto mode it fires at the wrong time!
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Looks to me like the blue, relativley bright lights behind the toy threw the camera off. The ones that look like lit computer ventilation fans. Try a bunch of different situations and see how it does. You've picked a tough shooting situation. I actually try not to use the flash myself for indoors since phones seem to do pretty well in dim light now. But now that taking pictures is basically free (no film to develop) I take it both ways when I can.
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Looks to me like the blue, relativley bright lights behind the toy threw the camera off. The ones that look like lit computer ventilation fans. Try a bunch of different situations and see how it does. You've picked a tough shooting situation. I actually try not to use the flash myself for indoors since phones seem to do pretty well in dim light now. But now that taking pictures is basically free (no film to develop) I take it both ways when I can.
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I thought that it threw it off but the flash fired so it should have been as bright as the flash on image, i did try other scenarios and it's the same, it seems the flash is out of sync in auto mode.
Regardless of when the flash went off, to me, the slightly darker image when it was in auto looks more natural.
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Regardless of when the flash went off, to me, the slightly darker image when it was in auto looks more natural.
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To be fair any image with more noise certainly does not look natural
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To be fair any image with more noise certainly does not look natural
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I think he's saying it's more natural in terms of color reproduction. Noise is noise but the color does look better probably cause it actually didn't get the flash at all. If I do use flash (just way too dark of a situation) I do flash on anyway.
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I think he's saying it's more natural in terms of color reproduction. Noise is noise but the color does look better probably cause it actually didn't get the flash at all. If I do use flash (just way too dark of a situation) I do flash on anyway.
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That's just the point i was saying, I've never had to flash on by force manually on any phone I've owned and I've had quite a few, it just seems odd it's flashing but incorrectly, just adds more fuel to the fire of Google making so many mistakes this year if I'm being honest, i love Google phones but it seems this year they have made some rookie mistakes.
Just tested auto versus on and the pics look the same.
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Just tested auto versus on and the pics look the same.
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Was that with hdr+ enhanced?
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Was that with hdr+ enhanced?
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Weird I've just tried a couple of different locations and now it seems right, as someone said it could have distracted by my pc fan lights but then it did flash still but weirdly.
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Was that with hdr+ enhanced?
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I actually have kept the HDR+ manual controls off.
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Weird I've just tried a couple of different locations and now it seems right, as someone said it could have distracted by my pc fan lights but then it did flash still but weirdly.
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Sounds possible. Maybe mistimed the photo taken.