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Came across this comparison, Nexus 6 is superior in every way except the camera.
Nexus 6 was found to have superior:
Display (qHD)
Battery (3220mAh)
RAM (3GB)
OS (Stock Lollipop, the best!)
Price,
Other features (water resistant, wireless charging, dual speakers)
I really think Nexus 6 will sell better than previous nexus devices. While the camera is still not as good as Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus, it is still better than most of the devices out there.
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They stated the Note 4 and Nexus 6 are a tie when it comes to the display and battery life.
Nexus 6! Game over!!
yeah im not sure about the display..in other comparisons they have stated that the note 4 panel is subtly better, with slightly crisper text and sharper image quality and i even tried to do the comparison myself and the note 4 indeed has a better display
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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How is TW? Is it really laggy and buggy or is it a bit improved?
Day 2 and I have to say that it's really not that different to the 3. The home key has real lag. I set up both devices exactly the same and ran side by side comparisons of app running time... And most times the Note 3 was faster. Weird. Will keep it for 13 days then return it and wait a week for my nexus 64gb to arrive!
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^^The home key has real lag?
I don't have any lag with the home key. Have you turned off Svoice double tap to activate feature?
These 3 phone plus the note edge are my choices for January when I get my upgrade. I have the note 3 now and I don't feel like the note 4 is worthy of the upgrade. I finally got my hands on the edge at the at&t store. I was so excited to check it out. I left the store thinking it was pretty cool but I was still underwhelmed. So now I am down to the nexus 6 and iPhone 6 plus. At this point I'm really leaning towards the 6 plus (please don't hate). It's a personal preference type of thing.
I used to love the iPhone up to the 4s. Then I couldn't stand small screen size anymore. Fortunately for me they fixed that problem now.
I can't take touchwiz any longer and all the crap Samsung has added into the phones. That's sad to say because I have had the galaxy s, s2, s3, s4 and now the note 3.
I can't wait to check out a nexus 6 to make my final decision. I feel like it is going to be a tough one
Display is a tie? What a great joke. There is a thick chance the author doesn't even own a nexus 6. I wanted to like nexus 6 sooo much, it could've been my dream phone but unfortunately, the screen can only go as bright as 278 nits vs note 4 400+ nits and upto 700 nits in extreme bright light.
So far, note 4 NAND performance is faster. Eg better read and writes. Note 4 battery lasts longer. I think we all should be realistic. How can you call it superior ?
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np231 said:
Came across this comparison, Nexus 6 is superior in every way except the camera.
Nexus 6 was found to have superior:
Display (qHD)
Battery (3220mAh)
RAM (3GB)
OS (Stock Lollipop, the best!)
Price,
Other features (water resistant, wireless charging, dual speakers)
I really think Nexus 6 will sell better than previous nexus devices. While the camera is still not as good as Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus, it is still better than most of the devices out there.
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Note 4 display is better.
Battery is the same.
RAM is the same.
OS is irrelevant.
Price is also too close to call.
Front speakers and water resistance is it. Wireless charging is possible on the Note 4.
Do some research before spreading crap.
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Display is a tie? What a great joke. There is a thick chance the author doesn't even own a nexus 6. I wanted to like nexus 6 sooo much, it could've been my dream phone but unfortunately, the screen can only go as bright as 278 nits vs note 4 400+ nits and upto 700 nits in extreme bright light.
So far, note 4 NAND performance is faster. Eg better read and writes. Note 4 battery lasts longer. I think we all should be realistic. How can you call it superior ?
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That's on manual brightness nits don't mean everything there are other factors. All the reviewers say the screen is excellent and easy to read in day light. Gsm arena review display
The note only has faster read times because it is not fully encrypted on Lollipop. Just wait until it gets it. Also the nexus 6 is smoother than the note all around through the operating system and within apps. The battery life is similar.
dont be saying around that the nexus 6 has a very display because thats not true
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Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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Really curious about how you went about "trying out the note 4". Because I am really wanting to do this exact thing with both the iPhone 6 Plus and the Note 4 to decide if I'd want to switch to iOS or continue my crapwiz adventure, or try out the N6. I am on verizon and I see they have a $35 restocking fee if you return a product within 14 days. Is their a way around this? How'd you do it? What's your carrier?
From AnandTech who does very thorough objective testing. Traditionally they're pretty rough in their Samsung reviews and fairly "pro" Nexus with value taken in to account in their findings. With pricing similar to other high-end devices the Nexus 6 and 9 can't play the value card anymore.
Battery
The first test is our WiFi web browsing test which loads a set of web pages in a loop with pauses to avoid penalizing phones with faster SoCs than others. In this test we see that the Nexus 6 does perform somewhat poorly. Compared to Samsung's Galaxy Note 4 which has essentially the same specifications on paper, the Nexus 6 lasts 4.27 hours shorter. It is likely that this can be attributed to the display, which may not be as efficient as the latest and greatest AMOLED panel used in the Note 4.
Display
Overall, the Nexus 6 display is quite poor relative to the displays on other smartphones like the Galaxy Note 4, iPhone 6, and HTC One (M7). It's also a definite regression from the display on the Nexus 5, which is concerning given the fact that the Nexus 6 is $300 more expensive. It has been speculated that Motorola is unable to source the latest generation of panels from Samsung Display, which would explain why many of the panel characteristics are similar to previous generation AMOLED panels in the Note 3 and Galaxy S4. Although the efficiency of AMOLED displays when displaying black helps to reduce power usage with features like Ambient Display which wakes up the phone when notifications arrive or it is picked up, I don't believe it's worth the trade-off if it involves such heavy sacrifices in color accuracy and brightness.
Camera
I'm very happy with the improvements Google has made to their camera on the Nexus 6. I no longer feel like Nexus devices will always be a generation behind the competition when it comes to camera quality. Google and Motorola should also congratulate themselves on their white balance algorithm which helped the Nexus 6 to take photos that better reflected how the scenes actually looked in real life. I hope Google will continue to improve their camera software to make the user interface less menu driven, and to improve capture times for photos which is the one area that the Nexus 6 really falls behind its competition.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review
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Really curious about how you went about "trying out the note 4". Because I am really wanting to do this exact thing with both the iPhone 6 Plus and the Note 4 to decide if I'd want to switch to iOS or continue my crapwiz adventure, or try out the N6. I am on verizon and I see they have a $35 restocking fee if you return a product within 14 days. Is their a way around this? How'd you do it? What's your carrier?
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I went from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 then back to the 6 Plus. Bought the 6 Plus at the Apple Store and the Note 4 at Best Buy. Neither have restocking fees. Even got to keep my $200 Best Buy gift card when I returned the Note. I also have the Nexus on preorder through Motorola with a December 2nd delivery date. This is the first iPhone I've had since the 4. I'm really liking it, but also excited to try the Nexus. [emoji2]
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I currently have the 6 Plus. Not bad but Apple was not ready for the big screen. So many apps are big and clunky. I've had a lot of random reboots and the screen isn't all that special.
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How is TW? Is it really laggy and buggy or is it a bit improved?
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I went from Note 3 to 4 and the lag and fluidity improvements are quite noticeable. Here's why...
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Qualcomm ROMs also have major issues mostly regarding camera - I'm not up to date with it.
They have fixed any discernible delay and lag as far as I can see in the Note 4 (and Alpha). The lag in previous versions were due to the userspace DVFS hooks, and that got totally rewritten in the Alpha and Note 4.
And btw you can just turn off those services and replace the stock keyguard - there goes your lag.
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I went from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 then back to the 6 Plus. Bought the 6 Plus at the Apple Store and the Note 4 at Best Buy. Neither have restocking fees. Even got to keep my $200 Best Buy gift card when I returned the Note. I also have the Nexus on preorder through Motorola with a December 2nd delivery date. This is the first iPhone I've had since the 4. I'm really liking it, but also excited to try the Nexus. [emoji2]
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So you're recommending me I go through a retailer to try out these phones, and then just return before the typical 14 day policy? Did you bring it to your carrier to use it? Or did you just use it with wifi? I feel like if you went through your carrier for the service it'd cause more problems.
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So you're recommending me I go through a retailer to try out these phones, and then just return before the typical 14 day policy? Did you bring it to your carrier to use it? Or did you just use it with wifi? I feel like if you went through your carrier for the service it'd cause more problems.
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I was on the Next program with the first iPhone and a 2 year contract with the Note. Both signed through AT&T. Yes, neither retailer have restocking fees. If I would have went through AT&T they would have charged me $35 for the first one and blocked me from returning the Note. I would have been stuck. Went back to the Apple Store for my current 6 Plus.
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(It's not the note 4 but I think it's relevant here; are you gonna get it?)
We're up and the hall is PACKED. Everyone is on their devices.
A woman in tight business suit and high heels comes on stage and welcomes CEO. He has the phone in his his pocket.
Relentless Innovation. We listened, we learned, we pushed forward. We rebuilt from the ground up. The most beautiful phone Samsung have ever produced and the most advanced one in the world.
The screens that go the ENTIRE way around the hall burst into life, aaaaand....
The pictures are exactly as leaked!
As has been the discussion all week, it's the curve that they're pushing - and yes, it's gorgeous. The detail is seamless.
It remains to be seen what they're going to do with the none-curved version.
The pricing will dictate whether or not the S6 flies off the shelf - and it's availability.
I think they should have released just the curve.
There you have it.
The curve is gorgeous. Absolutely. The detail is very precise. The plain S6 is plain ugly.
And the light-up notifications thing on the edge is tickling ALL the journalists.
Will you stick to the Note 4, or switch?
Let the games begin.
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(It's not the note 4 but I think it's relevant here; are you gonna get it?)
We're up and the hall is PACKED. Everyone is on their devices.
A woman in tight business suit and high heels comes on stage and welcomes CEO. He has the phone in his his pocket.
Relentless Innovation. We listened, we learned, we pushed forward. We rebuilt from the ground up. The most beautiful phone Samsung have ever produced and the most advanced one in the world.
The screens that go the ENTIRE way around the hall burst into life, aaaaand....
The pictures are exactly as leaked!
As has been the discussion all week, it's the curve that they're pushing - and yes, it's gorgeous. The detail is seamless.
It remains to be seen what they're going to do with the none-curved version.
The pricing will dictate whether or not the S6 flies off the shelf - and it's availability.
I think they should have released just the curve.
There you have it.
The curve is gorgeous. Absolutely. The detail is very precise. The plain S6 is plain ugly.
And the light-up notifications thing on the edge is tickling ALL the journalists.
Will you stick to the Note 4, or switch?
Let the games begin.
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Regarding the S6, I don't feel the glass back and the camera sticking out as on the iPhone 6 and 6 plus...Also software wise it does look smoother but the size of the icons and the whole UI looks kinda ugly, especially the percentage bar, it's just too big...also non removable battery is a miss.
If only the note 4 would somewhat benefit from the S6's software
I think Ill stick.Note 4 has got looks but hey s6 looks like iphone 6 same rounded metal frame,same speaker style,same protruding volume buttons.Although s6 edge could be worthy to switch over but can be cleared only when they are available in stores.Except processor Note 4 has an upper hand
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I really like the design they've chosen! I've always been jealous of iPhone smooth and clean designs, now there's a similar design from Samsung. No need to get iPhone knock-offs from China with android running.
But I'll still keep my Note 4.
- 5MP Front camera, not my thing, I don't care abt selfies and Note 4's 2MP 3.7MP (Edited) works well for video chat even at low light.
-No SD-Card slot... Bumper.. The choice for buying cheap128GB SD card to store media and easily transfering between devices has been a great advantage for Samsung phones, it will be missed
(Cuz 128 GB ver. Of S6 will be much more expensive than just getting basic 32GB + 128GB SD Card)
-Wireless charging, not an issue... I put in a wireless charging receiver pad and can use qi chargers to charge. No extra bulk.
-5.7" screen of Note 4 will be much better for viewing any media!
-S-Pen... Nuff Said.
However, these are the plus points of S6,
-Speaker at the bottom! Would prefer front facing but at least better than at the back...
- Touch finger print! I've no issues with Note 4's swiping sensor, been using wit great accuracy for months... But the new one might reduce the error rate.
- Double curves on display (S6 Edge)... Its just look smooth and sexy. Less awkward than Note 4 Edge.
-eMMC faster flash memory... Hopefully it'll be like changing from a tradiotinal hardisk to an SSD. With how Lollipop's ART runtime works (fully unpacked apps), S6 will be a beast.
-Exynos for all! Will be a great performer hopefully. Although, custom firmware will be lesser, snapdragon 810 on Note 4 is one of its draw backs. Hope the Exynos will not throttle its performance so much.
Sorry for the long post. Still great devices by Samsung.
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I really like the design they've chosen! I've always been jealous of iPhone smooth and clean designs, now there's a similar design from Samsung. No need to get iPhone knock-offs from China with android running.
But I'll still keep my Note 4.
- 5MP Front camera, not my thing, I don't care abt selfies and Note 4's 2MP works well for video chat even at low light.
-No SD-Card slot... Bumper.. The choice for buying cheap128GB SD card to store media and easily transfering between devices has been a great advantage for Samsung phones, it will be missed
(Cuz 128 GB ver. Of S6 will be much more expensive than just getting basic 32GB + 128GB SD Card)
-Wireless charging, not an issue... I put in a wireless charging receiver pad and can use qi chargers to charge. No extra bulk.
-5.7" screen of Note 4 will be much better for viewing any media!
-S-Pen... Nuff Said.
However, these are the plus points of S6,
-Speaker at the bottom! Would prefer front facing but at least better than at the back...
- Touch finger print! I've no issues with Note 4's swiping sensor, been using wit great accuracy for months... But the new one might reduce the error rate.
- Double curves on display (S6 Edge)... Its just look smooth and sexy. Less awkward than Note 4 Edge.
-eMMC faster flash memory... Hopefully it'll be like changing from a tradiotinal hardisk to an SSD. With how Lollipop's ART runtime works (fully unpacked apps), S6 will be a beast.
-Exynos for all! Will be a great performer hopefully. Although, custom firmware will be lesser, snapdragon 810 on Note 4 is one of its draw backs. Hope the Exynos will not throttle its performance so much.
Sorry for the long post. Still great devices by Samsung.
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The Note 4 has a 3.7MP front camera...
The only thing which I like on the S6 is the 64bit processor, new camera UI and the speaker on the bottom.
Without microsd, its crap.
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Without microsd, its crap.
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I originally thought that too, but when I really think about it, I could actually do without the MicroSD. For sale, Note 4U with extra battery, 2 cases, Gear VR, used once, for best offer!! Nuff said!
I like it, but there is no s pen do I don't think it can replace my Note 4.
Definitely much more compelling than the s5 though, which made me yawn.
I'll stick with note 4 ofc.
But if they won't give that better touchwiz to note 4. I won't probably buy another Samsung phone again. limiting exynos 5433 to 32 bit another retarded thing too.
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Without microsd, its crap.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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battery will be probably same with s5.
M glad i left S series at S3. Samsung started distroying it after that. Not worth. The true class in note series.
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Lets not forget the battery is a smaller 2600mAh unit vs. 2800mAh in the S5, don't even dare give me the CPU is more efficient BS, once you get Facebook, Chrome and Instagram going all that stuff becomes typical marketing talk, and you realise the advantage of a much larger batt.
I'll keep my Note 4 thanks, I just hope the Note 5 doesn't go the same way or I'll be very disappointed.
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The battery is actually 2550mAh but it will probably be on pair with the galaxy s5 and the note 4...
Staying with my note 4
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The battery is actually 2550mAh but it will probably be on pair with the galaxy s5 and the note 4...
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s5 and note 4 has different battery life. it can just reach s5. probably 5 hour sot will be most for s6.
Waiting for note 5
You all know if the s6 is this good, the note 5 will be twice as good. I love the note 4 because it was a real upgrade from the note 3. Screen, CPu and Gpu. The s6, yes with 64bit with nothing that will use it, the note 5 will come out when there will be software that will use it.
The note 4 is my baby till it dies. I really do not see the need for another phone that will do nothing better on day to day activities.
More so, I really hope Samsung gives us the new tw unlike what they do normally. Which is they may upgrade Android versions but they rarely upgrade tw on older devices
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You all know if the s6 is this good, the note 5 will be twice as good. I love the note 4 because it was a real upgrade from the note 3. Screen, CPu and Gpu. The s6, yes with 64bit with nothing that will use it, the note 5 will come out when there will be software that will use it.
The note 4 is my baby till it dies. I really do not see the need for another phone that will do nothing better on day to day activities.
More so, I really hope Samsung gives us the new tw unlike what they do normally. Which is they may upgrade Android versions but they rarely upgrade tw on older devices
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It'd be great if they give us 5.0.2 with the new touchwiz but i doubt that will happen...
You never know, maybe that's one of the reasons for the lack of lollipop on the Note 4 so far (optimising TW)...I hope.
Happy the S6 looks good. Samsung has two ticks a year.
I always keep my phones for two years so I'll pass.
I love the sleek new look Samsung has i dont care what anyone thinks sd card slot or not removable battery or not i think its well made!https://youtu.be/wJWj7rGj3uY
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I'll stick with my note 4
Im confused.. WHICH loyal fans were they listening to??? Note 4 > Note 5
It looks terrific to me, although I was hoping it would have a 7422 instead of a 7420. I never upgrade right away, though. I always wait until the price comes down. By that time, we'll know if it turned out to be a error in judgement on design or a lemon of a phone.
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I love the sleek new look Samsung has i dont care what anyone thinks sd card slot or not removable battery or not i think its well made!https://youtu.be/wJWj7rGj3uY
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Glad to see you will be happy with your isamsungphone. Good luck with that.
Very nice device.. But no thanks, I'll keep my Note4. ?
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Very nice device.. But no thanks, I'll keep my Note4. ?
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Yeah agreed it looks nice but that's about it. It's more of a downgrade to me.
However.... I will buy one and if I don't like it I will go back to the note 4.
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All I saw was a very well made iPhone with an S-pen...or is it an I-pen?? I get confused ?! @xxSTARBUCKSxx I'm with you on that....which loyal fans!
http://i.imgur.com/yAQKBCY.jpg
I was pretty much following it for kicks and giggles, just to keep track. I'm only a year into my Note4, which means I won't upgrade till Note 6ish anyway.
Put it in a case and it becomes a sub par Note 4
Note 4 all the way. I'll wait for something better.
If for any reason I would want to get the note 5, it would be because of the wireless charge fast charging. But it looks like sprint might be dropping spark, only LTE?
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Same screen resolution, smaller battery with no Micro SD. I don't understand the direction Samsung is headed. Every phone I have ever had people complain about battery life. What's the solution with a internal battery? Constantly tethered to the wall or a huge ridiculous case with an extra external power source built in? Fail Sammy, fail.
I dont understand so many threads about this note 5 in a note 4 forum. I mean, personally im waiting for the new nexus device, im not going to make a thread in the note 4 forum tho.
Should probably take it to the note 5 forum instead.
Just my 2 cents.
It's one of the best ? out there
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The screen off memo feature would be nice to see ported. Not a ton makes me want note 5 over note 4...
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The screen off memo feature would be nice to see ported. Not a ton makes me want note 5 over note 4...
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Yep that's pretty neat for sure.
There are a lot of things I like about the Note 5, and you CAN get a 128 GB model for Sprint, contrary to what many websites are saying. But I'm still not going to upgrade. Maybe when the prices drop, but I'll probably wait to see what the Note 6 is like. I never swap my battery and I don't care about missing the microSD card. I'd rather have the UFS 2.0 storage, so those things aren't holding me back. I'm just happy with my Note 4.
Well.. I like doing a battery pull when things get iffy. As far as having an SD card slot or not is not really a big deal to me. I have a Samsung 32g SD card now that's not even 1/3 full. Between Sirius /XM and Pandora I don't download a lot of music. I use my SD card for pictures and my necessary rooting/modding files. And with having a "cloud" to store stuff and thumb drives and USB cables the storage will still be endless. As with all other tech.. It evolves. My 2 cents..
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Same screen resolution, smaller battery with no Micro SD. I don't understand the direction Samsung is headed. Every phone I have ever had people complain about battery life. What's the solution with a internal battery? Constantly tethered to the wall or a huge ridiculous case with an extra external power source built in? Fail Sammy, fail.
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Note followers never complained about built quality because our phones stay in cases. Galaxy followers wanted a android iphone so samsung gave it to them . But why didn't they just have a regular version with sd and removable battery and one with a higher built quality and they could have ditched the s6 plus idea until the s7 plus . That would of worked 4 months ago. Owell I'll get the s6 plus and if i don't like it wife might have a new phone. Note 5 don't do nothing for me atleast the s6plus bring something different. I'll see what apple do before i dive in they might surprise me but every year a disappointment.
I have to say that I was pretty hyped about this device while watching the unpacked event. Then again I am always stoked when new devices are announced and released I am just a tech nerd I guess. I am not hating on this device. In fact I have already pre-ordered mine, and at full price so I can keep my Verizon unlimited data however there are several flaws present in this device. These flaws are especially true if you are upgrading from a device like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4.
What do you guys think? Are these flaws enough to keep you away from the Note 5? I mean it still has plenty going for it. Revamped premium design, great screen, great camera, SPEN, Samsung Pay, wireless fast charging and the list goes on and on.
Coming from an LG G2, it's a clear upgrade across the board. I dont even fill up my current 32GB so the 64GB note 5 I have preordered should be more than enough space.
Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
It is a great video and those are not a deterrence to me coming from a S4. Hopefully I will get to see his next video on why to get the Note 5. At this point I might consider the Note 4 just to save money. Either one is a big upgrade for me.
Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
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Why is everyone complaining. The note 5 is not an upgrade. They literally took the note 4 and rewrapped it.
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Honestly. People say that a lot..but it's wrong. It has most of the Note features that were on the 3 and 4, but the software is completely different. It's more like the s6.
Hardware is completely different too. It has the s6 hardware with more ram. I'm not sure why people think it's just a note 4 in a new body. It's far from that.
Not saying there isn't a level of disappointment. .there definitely is, only for different reasons. If I was coming from the Note 4 straight to the 5 without a 4 month pit stop on the s6, I'd be stoked. Problem is, I have the s6 and this is basically that with the spen features added. The Note line used to be a bigger upgrade over the previous S version. This year it's not.
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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Well, the guy has to get his hands on the phone to do a review right?
rsohne said:
Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
Maybe the trend has changed and the Galaxy S series is the phone to get the newest changes first. Seems to me with the S6 Samsung threw it against the wall and it stuck. It sold lots of phones and maybe for the more mainstream users the Note 5 will sell a ton. I think Samsung Note line was getting stale and needed an update. Heck if Samsung wasn't trying all this weird stuff with devices who knows where the smartphone market would be.
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Dr. Evo said:
That's what you call a classic sheep! It's quite pathetic really.
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I am hardly a sheep. Vote with your wallet and Samsung will get the message. The way I see it the new S6 design sold well so they figured they could capitalize on it with the Note 5. If they don't sell many the Note 6 may be different. If you don't like it buy another device this round. Seems that SD card slots and spare batteries are gonna be a thing of the past whether we like it or not.
By the way no disrespect to Rootjunky. He is great for the community but at this point everything is speculation.
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As far as we know, the S6 doesn't meet the expectations of Samsung in terms of sales.
I think, the Note 5 we are seeing is simply the result of decisions take a moment ago , regardless of the sales of S6.
I don't think there was anyway Samsung was going to keep increasing market share in the Android world. Probably why they have toyed around with Tizen. The flood of cheap phones from so many manufacturers was bound to happen with an open ecosystem. I think they figured that out a long time ago. They want to be the premium android manufacturer and not play in the low price war. They were probably smart and would have lost more market share if they had kept producing plastic, me too kind of devices. That's also the same reason they've always pushed all their special features (or bloat) Try to get you locked into something like Apple does. It just doesn't work unless the operating system is locked down and you control it.
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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DroidModderX did the video LOL and yes I did pre-order the device and it arrives Tuesday. I think this device will be great, but i believe it is my job to weigh the pros and the cons of these devices.
I only have 3 major flaws but they are all deal breakers:
-no IR
-no 128GB
-Not available in the Netherlands
Other disappointments:
-small and non removable battery
-fragile build materials
-same processor as s6
-same camera as s6
The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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The 2 main flaws I can think of, are the lack of mircoSD card and the IR blaster.
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well the MicroSD is just the trade off for going with UFS 2.0. The memory controller doesn't natively support SDcards, so in order to have an SD card slot the phone would have to use eMMC 5.0/5.1 memory controller (which also supports SDcards), or add in a 2nd memory controller just to control the microSD slot. Which is a lot of PCB and headache just for a microSD slot, and i'm not sure if the Exynos 7420 would even allow you to use 2 different memory controllers at once, so i'm not even sure if you COULD just throw in another memory controller, even if you found space for it.
Basically, UFS 2.0 as the memory controller currently stands just doesn't support microSD, the next iteration of the UFS controller could potentially add microsd support, but I wouldnt count on it either.
As for the IR blaster, likely a space issue, but only samsung would know on that one.
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Im upgrading from my 64 GB S6 Edge to the Note 5 just because I like to be on the cutting edge as for CPU and SOC and Camera.
I find it very very very funny that allot of my co workers and friends are UPGRADING to the Note 4 or Note 4 Edge even though the Note 5 is coming out in a couple days lol.
Even though I like Note 5 for the Camera and CPU and GPU and the Glass on Glass construction, I have to admit, Samsung Failed.......
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You do know that the S6 edge has the exact same cpu and camera, right? The only thing thats upgraded is the memory. You were already on cutting edge.
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Let me get this straight. Rootjunky does a 4 minute video of what he believes are flaws for the Note 5 and then pre-orders one anyway?
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So what?
anyone can buy an a mediocre product. The thing is, it will disappoint and will no longer make you happy every day like the its predecessors did. Especially if it is grossly overpriced.
yes, for the majority of us, it would be insane to buy galaxy note 5, especially for its price.
but some people could, it's their choice.
i, personally, will vote with my wallet, and will advice AGAINST buying samsung products in my community.
Thanks for the correction. I don't know why I confuse those guys.
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Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
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Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
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Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
I got an AT&T Note 4, but due to locked bootloader, I sold it without even using it. Upgraded to LG G4, sold it due to bugs. Nexus 6P is nice, but I always found myself missing my Note 3 and the S-Pen, backup batteries, and SD cards.
So I sold the Nexus 6P and now I bought myself a Note 4 with unlocked bootloader and I'm all set for the long term with my Note 4. When I researched Note 5 and 7, I totally lost interest at the non-removable battery part. They should have renamed the Note series to Samsung Galaxy GNote 5 and GNote 7 (Gimped Note).
Is the Note 4 the last great phone? For me, yes.
Hard to justify going to a Note 7. It's just not that impressive. Only thing I wish would be better on the note 4 is the camera. The S7 camera is pretty impressive and fast.
I can let most things slide, or grow to love other features, it's just hard without the IR blaster... Not sure why Samsung thought it was a great idea to remove it from their phones. I mean it's not like they make home theater equipment.... So, yeah, it sucks as we evolve in some places we simultaneously devolve in others.
Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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Yup I agree. Once I heard the specs about the note 5 I completely lost interest. The note 7 does have some nice specs and the added SD Card support is great but still, too many essentials are missing. And most importantly the locked bootloader. No chance I'm going to buy a phone that is locked down. Hopefully nothing happens to my note 4 for the next few years.
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The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations.
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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The NextRadio app lets you do this. Sprint has unlocked the FM Radio in their phones for quite some time now.
I got my Note 4 last July. By that time, it had already been out for a while, but I had an early upgrade opportunity and made the jump from the Galaxy S5 I had gotten just 11 months earlier.
At the time, I was looking at either the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. Ultimately, the Note 4 won because of a removable battery and the option to add a micro SD card for extra storage. The phone still works great, and while I'm still about a year out from my upgrade point, I'm hoping there will be better options by that time.
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Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
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agreed
[/COLOR]Locked bootloader? No thank you.
Only way to fully protect yourself from malvertising 0 day exploits is full phone adblock and AdAway needs root.
My Note 4 has been great, with Anker battery and wireless chargers everywhere never running out of juice.
The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
Keeping mine too. I'm done with Samsung. Time to move on to someone else
The main appeal to me is the water resistance but not knowing if the battery will die fairly rapidly like the note 4 battery pretty much counters that with it being not removable. Ill probably wait and see if the next nexus iteration has water resistance.
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The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
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Note 7 was meant to be disappointing. You gotta remember, the note series is intended for business users who have a need for a stylus. It was never going to have 6GB of RAM or the newest snapdragon. If we all expected that then we don't know why the S7 exists. It is the flagship phone from Samsung, not the Note. The people on XDA who root their notes pales in comparison to the actual number of note users who do not. Samsung is like any other company. IPhone has 1 flagship. That's what samsung wants
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The note 7 is still an awesome phone. Better specs than the note 4. I still don't mind using the note 4 and will continue to do so. I wanted to upgrade to the newest note but if the bootloader is locked and no possibility of root it's a no go for me.
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the Note 5 disappointed me but the Note 7 has everything i want except for an IR blaster.
If you don't think the Note 7 is an upgrade, you must not have played with it in real life. The phone is gorgeous especially the screen. The only thing I will miss is the IR blaster but oh well. Now to find where to sell my Note 4 for the highest price....
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