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What apps in FolioMod

I thought we might take a poll, on which apps you would like have included and which should be left out.
im thinking that it needs a cleanup, so why not ask those that uses it.

tether and net
A tether to a winmo 6.5 with 3g. And.application to connect wan tablet to lan pc

I would get rid of everything that can easily be downloaded by the Market. Maybe even the Toshiba stuff if there are free downloadable apps that do the job too.

I think the best is, a standard android version with all the google app's.
Opera, file exploler, music/movie app's etc can easily be downloaded from the market.

killerbie said:
I think the best is, a standard android version with all the google app's.
Opera, file exploler, music/movie app's etc can easily be downloaded from the market.
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Agree, gmaps only!

All google apps can be installed from market.

A tether to a winmo 6.5 with 3g
+1

mhgonzalez said:
All google apps can be installed from market.
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But without all gapps, how do you access market? Isn't that part of the gapps family?

statsminister said:
But without all gapps, how do you access market? Isn't that part of the gapps family?
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no no.. only those downloadable from Market will be removed, but so far looks like they stay
those would normally be
Youtube , Gmail , Maps , Googlevoice , Twitter, facebook , streetview and such..
the GoogleApps framework services would still remain..

Adding FolioWidget will add a lot of pain for future updates
but glad to see this mod going this far

I don't need any toshiba apps, so they can go out.
For all the other things I'd like to see some basic apps included (FileManager, YouTube, FolioWidget).
Just make sure that these are not system apps and can be uninstalled/exchanged painless.

Titanium backup seems to be able to remove system apps, so maybe it is moot. I prefer not to have any apps installed which the market then wishes to update but can't (as currently DocsToGo showed before I un-installed). The only must-haves are things which can't be got from the market (unless they are packaged as a separate update, helping to keep the filesize down)

Titanium Backup
I think Titanium Backup _is_a_must_. Just think on a rom update with it preinstalled:
1. Do backup
2. Flash new rom
3. Do Restore
And everyone has his prefs, apps, etc., woking in a snap.

I think Titanium backup and a terminal emulator should be good ideas.

if you want to make everyone happy, you should include every single app in the market
but if you want a functional rom, stick with the basics.
as few system apps as possible, since it's easier to both remove and update them that way.
and just include apps with functionality that everyone needs. like a file explorer, the gApps naturally, flash and morelocale let the poll do it's thing and we'll see.
i personally think the folio stock apps are mere crap.

Thanks for your job Dexter...
New application :
Titanium Back Up (or a similar) which allows to backup / restore applications provided they can be reinstalled from a version to another...

kepler1982 said:
if you want to make everyone happy, you should include every single app in the market
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lol
I would include a nice MediaPlayer, TuneIn for Radio and a Backup Manager too.

Only the app's that 99% of the foliomod users use should be included.
That can be a browser, media player (stock), flash,..

killerbie said:
Only the app's that 99% of the foliomod users use should be included.
That can be a browser, media player (stock), flash,..
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So I propose Dolphin HD instead of Opera.
For me it works great!
And also ...
- Autostarts
- Titanium Backup or similar
- VLC instead of the Toshiba Player (when available)
Thank you all for your work

colossus77 said:
- Autostarts
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if you mean "init.d" start scripts, its already part of the FolioMod 1.3
colossus77 said:
- VLC instead of the Toshiba Player (when available)
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I personally would just like to have AndroidOS 3.0 added (when available)

"Lil Chupacabra" update...wth?

Whether you want it our not, if you're still on stock you WILL be getting this weird update, more geared towards developers than users. But then again,. this is Ouya, so nothing new.
No visible benefits (but annoying menu changes) and a very funky "changelog". https://www.ouya.tv/chupacabra_mini_update/
Boy...do I ever regret being so naive to think this would be a real Android device with real original development.

Ipse_Tase said:
Whether you want it our not, if you're still on stock you WILL be getting this weird update, more geared towards developers than users. But then again,. this is Ouya, so nothing new.
No visible benefits (but annoying menu changes) and a very funky "changelog". https://www.ouya.tv/chupacabra_mini_update/
Boy...do I ever regret being so naive to think this would be a real Android device with real original development.
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Personally I'm happy with the update. It might not be a huge update but there's some nice changes. The fact that they're reaching out to devs will benefit the user in the long term with more games so I see that as a plus also.
I'm curious what you mean by a real android device with real original development.

Would this update change the settings that we had before? Like root and all the sideloaded apps?

AA27 said:
Would this update change the settings that we had before? Like root and all the sideloaded apps?
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You lose root. If you used the one click root method the app will still be on your OUYA and root is just a couple clicks away. All settings are saved. If you had the play store then you will have to open the xposed app and install the framework again, don't update, reboot and should be good.
Let me know if you have anymore questions or need help. One of my ouyas didn't like the new update at first but was easily fixed wirh latest update and all settings saved.

Ipse_Tase said:
Whether you want it our not, if you're still on stock you WILL be getting this weird update, more geared towards developers than users. But then again,. this is Ouya, so nothing new.
No visible benefits (but annoying menu changes) and a very funky "changelog". https://www.ouya.tv/chupacabra_mini_update/
Boy...do I ever regret being so naive to think this would be a real Android device with real original development.
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I don't see how being able to sideload apps easier than ever before is no visual benefits...

I save my Generic.kl file to help with updates. Just update, tell CWM to disable recovery flash, reroot, and paste my generic.kl file back into system, then restart and im golden. Takes about 5 minutes tops to do all this, no that big of deal, the GF can do it from me guiding here over the phone, easy as pie. I tried CM11 and the enhanced rom but didnt like the issues and random kinks so i stuck with the stock rom. I like some of the ouya games and only use it for xbmc beside the occasional party game I use to use nova launcher so that way everyone knew how to use it even if they never have before since it was like stock android, now i just use the normal ouya launcher. The upload APKS thing makes no difference to me, i just copy the apk link and paste it into the apk downloader site the download the apk right onto the ouya. install it with file manager. I also favorite all my frequent apps so theyre in the play menu instead of the make menu.

lscheres said:
I save my Generic.kl file to help with updates. Just update, tell CWM to disable recovery flash, reroot, and paste my generic.kl file back into system, then restart and im golden..
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Good idea, thanks for the tip re generic.kl.

Why are certain apps hard-coded into most custom ROM?

I'm just curious why every custom ROM comes with several apps hard-coded into them? I think Greenify is an awesome app and I bought it long before I Rooted my phone but I find it odd that in a lot of ROMs it comes pre-installed and you can't remove it. Not that you would want to, I'm just using that as an example. I'm more annoyed by having web browsers, file managers, music players, etc... forced on me. Is there a reason for this? It seems counter intuitive to the whole "take control of YOUR phone" philosophy behind custom ROMs.

Pulprat said:
It seems counter intuitive to the whole "take control of YOUR phone" philosophy behind custom ROMs.
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You can build your own rom. This is what it means. You are not forced to use any of them.

You can also use TiBu to remove any app you don't like.

Because they want u to use their services.So their branded developers can make some cash or u use their rundown alternatives of? the same app.not all though ?.and carriers just draws data on contract (in case u didn't know)
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Pulprat said:
I'm just curious why every custom ROM comes with several apps hard-coded into them? I think Greenify is an awesome app and I bought it long before I Rooted my phone but I find it odd that in a lot of ROMs it comes pre-installed and you can't remove it. Not that you would want to, I'm just using that as an example. I'm more annoyed by having web browsers, file managers, music players, etc... forced on me. Is there a reason for this? It seems counter intuitive to the whole "take control of YOUR phone" philosophy behind custom ROMs.
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they arent hardcoded LOL, they are basic packages, because some people DONT RUN GAPPS, in fact its one of the points in using a custom rom. you can remove any time you want by using a root explorer and deleting their apks at /system/app and /system/priv-app (you can also disable them if you like)
and some apps even, if you dont like, are necessary to the phone start(i.e the launcher)
they cant know that you run gapps or you like X app, the team will build the rom per their standards, and to be functional in every case, using gapps or not, using x 3rd party or not
sure there are roms that dont come maybe with browser or music, but in these case, either the developers tell that they just use 3rd part ones or their gapps or recomendation already install a replacement for those
and no, custom roms arent for your total control, want total control? build your own,even google itself have a tutorial for that

Sideloaded apps/games on homescreen?

or even better in designated folders.. as far as I understand, this can be done after rooting right? but I'd rather not go down that route (at least atm) as I haven't a clue what I'm doing & the methods I've seen for the Shield TV are a little complicated for me (is there an automated method?)
Advice would be appreciated.

If you want to use the LeanBack (default) launcher you have to download SideLoad Launcher from the play store, otherwise you can flash Zulu99's ROM that gives you the default Android experience.

Agreed. I want to root my Android TV, but every thread I read is a little different, and since I don't have much experience doing it, I don't even know where to start. I'd rather wait until I've understood the process better before taking a chance at bricking my console.

Root is dead simple on this device. It's literally not requiring exploits and roots like a nexus device. You unlock the bootloader with very easy instructions, and can even leave the stock recovery if you are worried about things like that. I'm also pretty sure, though don't quote me, that unless you do something massively strange and unlikely, like changing partition sizes, that going back to stock, and relocking is always possible. At least it is on almost every single factory unlockable device on the market. No risk, I recommend it. That being said, you don't need root to sideload as stated abbove. Just get the launcher they recommended by chainfire, nistall it, then grab something like es file explorer, both in the play store, then install apk files from es file explorer, and launch from teh other launcher. The stock launcher launches the other one as the stock launcher can only display android TV supported apps, but the other launcher can display any android app, hence having a launcher inside a launcher.
Hope this helps.

I'd like to flash Steele01's Cyanogenmod 12.1 and use the twrp multi-rom, but from what I've seen, he's still working out a lot of kinks with the console since it's different from the Shield tablet.
If it wasn't for ES Explorer, I'd really be limited. At least I've been able to install Amazon Prime Instant Video and some other apps using their apk files. As far as the launcher inside of a launcher, are you referring to the crappy Sideload Launcher that's available through Leanback Launcher's play store? I saw the full Android mod for the Android TV, and it looks awesome. It looks exactly like you would expect any Android product to look. This whole Leanback Launcher is very disappointing. I feel like someone enabled Kid's mode on their tablet or something. I guess I'm thinking too much into this, and I should just go ahead and do it. Like you said, I could always go back to stock recovery, which from what I understand will need to be done anyway to receive any further updates.

Rolldog said:
I'd like to flash Steele01's Cyanogenmod 12.1 and use the twrp multi-rom, but from what I've seen, he's still working out a lot of kinks with the console since it's different from the Shield tablet.
If it wasn't for ES Explorer, I'd really be limited. At least I've been able to install Amazon Prime Instant Video and some other apps using their apk files. As far as the launcher inside of a launcher, are you referring to the crappy Sideload Launcher that's available through Leanback Launcher's play store? I saw the full Android mod for the Android TV, and it looks awesome. It looks exactly like you would expect any Android product to look. This whole Leanback Launcher is very disappointing. I feel like someone enabled Kid's mode on their tablet or something. I guess I'm thinking too much into this, and I should just go ahead and do it. Like you said, I could always go back to stock recovery, which from what I understand will need to be done anyway to receive any further updates.
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I recommend trying it out with a cestom rom, as long as you are willing to unlock. I have since gone back to stock after trying both as I needed/wanted 2 features. The streaming button (there is a paid alternative) and the headphones on the controller. Keep in mind you also give up wireless controller, hence the headphones, by going to other roms. I use a monitor, and without a USB DAC I don't have sound if I give up wireless. I have simply settled for running 2 sidebar launchers, and it's working great for me. Also, Market Helper is good as it'll tell the play store (web version) that you are using a Nexus 7, ect, and can install most apps that way easily without having to sidelead everything. It'll also handle auto-updates ironicly ,ith stock play store app. Hopefully that'll help you decide. Please let us know what you did and why as we as a community like to know users needs. If you get stuck at any part of the process, please PM me or ask on the forums. We'd be glad to help with anything!

I don't have any problems with unlocking it, I, like you, just want to be sure I don't lose any features of the Shield. Losing game streaming and the wireless controller sound like a deal breaker. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before someone fixes these issues in a custom ROM. The wireless controller is configured using WiFi Direct. Even on Nvidia's website, they're all for people rooting their device and customizing it the way people want. One guy, who works for Nvidia was saying that they're definitely not against people rooting it because once someone buys it, they're willing to do whatever they want with it. So hopefully, we'll see Nvidia release more info to help people develop custom ROMs without losing any of the functionality of the device. Aren't there custom ROMs you can flash onto the Shield Tablet and still be able to use the wireless controller?
Is Market Helper an apk to install on the console? And what sidebar launchers are you using? There are times when I try using Shield Hub to connect to my local PC and it not work, and then I try with Moonlight, and it works everytime. I also like using the remote desktop feature. If you add the remote desktop app manually into the GeForce Experience software on your PC, then using the Shield, you can connect to your desktop using either Moonlight or Shield Hub and your TV mirrors your monitor.

kdb424 said:
Root is dead simple on this device. It's literally not requiring exploits and roots like a nexus device. You unlock the bootloader with very easy instructions, and can even leave the stock recovery if you are worried about things like that. I'm also pretty sure, though don't quote me, that unless you do something massively strange and unlikely, like changing partition sizes, that going back to stock, and relocking is always possible. At least it is on almost every single factory unlockable device on the market. No risk, I recommend it. That being said, you don't need root to sideload as stated abbove. Just get the launcher they recommended by chainfire, nistall it, then grab something like es file explorer, both in the play store, then install apk files from es file explorer, and launch from teh other launcher. The stock launcher launches the other one as the stock launcher can only display android TV supported apps, but the other launcher can display any android app, hence having a launcher inside a launcher.
Hope this helps.
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Not to forget Es file explores send by land feature which is great for sending apks from other devices to your shield

Recent changes a bit worrying?

Have had my Swift 2x for a few months and have been happy on the whole. Camera is just average but for the price it's a cracking phone.
Anyway, the recent announcement of the lockscreen ads for a discount on a new phone leaves me a bit uneasy. A lot has been mentioned about Truecaller replacing the stock dialer and for me the introductory period comes to an end in a week or so and I suppose the ads will start popping up on that.
I fully realise that Wileyfox need a funding stream but I do not like ads. This has got me to un Wileyfox my phone!
I installed the Non-Nexus dialer from apk mirror, google messages and contact from playstore and disabled truecaller and the stock messages and contacts. The bit that has me worried is that I prefer google stuff to what came with the phone originally.
Thing is I have felt today that my phone as a bit smoother and quicker.
Trying to avoid flashing Lineage as once Ive started flashing then I dont stop until I break it!!!!!
Anyway, just wondering if someone else feels the same.

First thing I did after the Nougat update was disable the Truecaller and install the nonnexus
However, that's all the unwileyfoxing I needed to do (ok I installed Nova launcher since I was used to it, but in fact I haven't found anything wrong with Foxhole per se). I'm still very happy with the phone and especially with the software support. As in, this feels the best phone I ever had.
(as to the recent changes re. Wileyfox income flow, the jury is still out on that - as long as I can disable stuff I don't really care that much)

I did exactly the same right after getting the phone.
Installed Google Phone, Contacts, Messages and disabled the original ones. Reflashed opengapps to get rid of the clutter, switched to Nova Launcher. Happy camper.

Just stumbled on to this post after purchasing a Wileyfox Swift 2 plus completely forgetting that Cyanogen isn't a thing anymore. . I'm coming from a heavily rooted OnePlus One (via a windows phone, but shhhhh) and wondered if you guys had any advice on what to instantly do to the phone?

iomOllie said:
Just stumbled on to this post after purchasing a Wileyfox Swift 2 plus completely forgetting that Cyanogen isn't a thing anymore. . I'm coming from a heavily rooted OnePlus One (via a windows phone, but shhhhh) and wondered if you guys had any advice on what to instantly do to the phone?
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As stated before in this thread:
- update the phone to the latest version (OTA)
- disable the Truecaller program and install another dialer (the 'nonnexus' version of the google phone app is my personal fave works well enough)
- install the launcher of your choice (though I find there's nothing wrong with Foxhole, you can disable the news feed if you like, I was just used to Nova Launcher)
- I've also disabled 'Wileyfox Account', because I don't need it; if they roll out some actual use for it that I find interesting, we'll see later.
For the rest there's nothing wrong with the basic installation, in my opinion. Good luck with the phone.
(I haven't rooted my phone since I didn't see the need; if you need root for something, I can't help you there)
by the way, re. Windows Phone: I had a Nokia 620 or something and was really, really happy with it. But for the lack of apps for the platform (banking apps, mainly) I would have happily stayed on. But nowadays, a smartphone without mobile banking is... sad

dryhte said:
As stated before in this thread:
- update the phone to the latest version (OTA)
- disable the Truecaller program and install another dialer (the 'nonnexus' version of the google phone app is my personal fave works well enough)
- install the launcher of your choice (though I find there's nothing wrong with Foxhole, you can disable the news feed if you like, I was just used to Nova Launcher)
- I've also disabled 'Wileyfox Account', because I don't need it; if they roll out some actual use for it that I find interesting, we'll see later.
For the rest there's nothing wrong with the basic installation, in my opinion. Good luck with the phone.
(I haven't rooted my phone since I didn't see the need; if you need root for something, I can't help you there)
by the way, re. Windows Phone: I had a Nokia 620 or something and was really, really happy with it. But for the lack of apps for the platform (banking apps, mainly) I would have happily stayed on. But nowadays, a smartphone without mobile banking is... sad
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Thank you so much for your help, did everything you said except Nova Launcher (although I love it, I'll try anything new) had this phone about two hours and love it (especially for £150)
The only reason I rooted my first android (Sony Xperia Play) was to be able to listen to YouTube music without the app being open. Then I discovered the world of possibilities. But you're right, it is sad, hence why I'm holding off rooting this time (as you can't use android pay on a rooted device)
My Nokia hated being touched whilst on charge, would constantly lose cell signal, but the batter would last all day!

iomOllie said:
Thank you so much for your help, did everything you said except Nova Launcher (although I love it, I'll try anything new) had this phone about two hours and love it (especially for £150)
The only reason I rooted my first android (Sony Xperia Play) was to be able to listen to YouTube music without the app being open. Then I discovered the world of possibilities. But you're right, it is sad, hence why I'm holding off rooting this time (as you can't use android pay on a rooted device)
My Nokia hated being touched whilst on charge, would constantly lose cell signal, but the batter would last all day!
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I used to root my phones but being honest, most stock android is pretty ok at the moment. I would usually root to install ad blocking but now I use dns66 so android pay and other software works without a hitch.
I use GoogleNow as a launcher btw.

divvykev said:
I used to root my phones but being honest, most stock android is pretty ok at the moment. I would usually root to install ad blocking but now I use dns66 so android pay and other software works without a hitch.
I use GoogleNow as a launcher btw.
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Just simple tweaks like transparent notification shade and moving the clock (I hated it on the right hand side) and even changing the battery icon. I've heard Magisk seems to be able to root your phone whilst keeping Android Pay?
Feel free to tell me to use Google (or the search function) but, what is dns66?

iomOllie said:
Just simple tweaks like transparent notification shade and moving the clock (I hated it on the right hand side) and even changing the battery icon. I've heard Magisk seems to be able to root your phone whilst keeping Android Pay?
Feel free to tell me to use Google (or the search function) but, what is dns66?
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Dns66 is an adblocker which workd witthout root.

divvykev said:
Dns66 is an adblocker which workd witthout root.
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In the thread about Dns66 it is stated that the app might interfere with downloads on Nougat (due to a download manager bug). Don't you have any issues with this?

dryhte said:
In the thread about Dns66 it is stated that the app might interfere with downloads on Nougat (due to a download manager bug). Don't you have any issues with this?
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Not had any issues.