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I´ve tried everything, my S4 won’t go to DEEP SLEEP

Hi there, I have this problem; my AT&T GS4 does not use the deep sleep state. I have made some research, and from what I understood, this problem has to be a result of any program that keeps triggering the phone to get awake.
So, I have the phone unlocked, rooted and ALL the sensors off, expect from gsm signal. With titanium back I have uninstalled the programs that I´ll never gonna use (mostly AT&T bloadware) and frozen the ones that I don’t want to use right know, but maybe by deleting them I would get into a problem (like S-Voice) or just because some day I would like to give them a try. Finally, there are the programs that I would like to keep, but I don’t want to let them make any cpu use while I am not using them. I used an application called Greenyfi, a good example of why this program is the best for the last propose, is the use of programs like google maps, in where I do want to use it, but, just when I open the app. Also, I used the app “Autostarts” to prevent applications to start after some events (like startup, state change, etc..)
With all that been said, I am steel not getting deep sleep, in any situation. I´am not saying that my battery life is bad, I think I can get easily 4-5 screen time use. But, by not getting into deep sleep, the phone is allways using the cpu at 384mhz, so the battery goes down in a range of 1.5 to 2 % per hour (10 hours of no use and 20% less battery).
SO, for you to see the problem better. I did a little experiment. Restart the phone, put it into flight mode and let it “sleep” for the night, the results are attached.
PD: Whatsapp isn’t the problem; I can froze it and still 0% deep sleep.
PD2: Sorry for the language, I forgot to change it.

Get BetterBatteryStats app. It'll tell you what's keeping your phone awake. Look for partial wake locks.
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jd1639 said:
Get BetterBatteryStats app. It'll tell you what's keeping your phone awake. Look for partial wake locks.
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ok, I did it, and BBS says that in partial wakelocks there is no major problem (20seg out of 1 hour the worst app). BUT, in kernel wakelocks, shows that "MSM_HSIC_HOST", is using the exact amount of time since the phone was turned on (1 hour). So, it has to be this. I´ve reading a huge thread of many people having a similar problem (mmsm_hsic_host been the process that wakes the phone most, but not using ALL the time, but considerable time (between 50% to 10). I ‘keep reading until I found a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999368

Bro! I am so trying to get my s4 to not go into deep deep sleep, to be able to have a switch or click here button to be able to toggle that option would be the way for me to continue to use unlimited 4g tether because i was told to use hotspot vpn shield to prevent tim lee mobile from sniffing my data to see if i were tethering ! Although the vpn just told me that the application goes in to deep sleep (aka it turns off!) That's right folks the application turns off without you knowing until it's too late, so let see where to go from here. ??

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Bro! I am so trying to get my s4 to not go into deep deep sleep, to be able to have a switch or click here button to be able to toggle that option would be the way for me to continue to use unlimited 4g tether because i was told to use hotspot vpn shield to prevent tim lee mobile from sniffing my data to see if i were tethering ! Although the vpn just told me that the application goes in to deep sleep (aka it turns off!) That's right folks the application turns off without you knowing until it's too late, so let see where to go from here. ??
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Keep it plugged in and in developer options click stay awake and it should stay on when plugged in.
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Keep it plugged in and in developer options click stay awake and it should stay on when plugged in.
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sweet thanks bro! maybe i can just manually push the power button once to turn off the screen while charging to save on screen back light usage. or is this just possible in my imagination?

revized said:
sweet thanks bro! maybe i can just manually push the power button once to turn off the screen while charging to save on screen back light usage. or is this just possible in my imagination?
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Yes if you have developer mode to stay awake while plugged in and want to turn the screen off at any point just hit the power button to lock/shutoff the screen.
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well the hotspot shield vpn by anchors inc. makes thier app shut down when the phone goes into standby said the tech guy today because it still shut off.
so i suppose i need to prevent standby
ok i got to the bottom of this , hotspot shield vpn by anchors inc.are liars , the tether app auto prevents standby and i also i enabled the developer stay awake optiion. it turns out the application will turn off when no data is being sent for sometime and i have a feeling that it is in their favor for whatever reason otherwise the app would have an option to not shut off
now i was looking into getting termenal_ide to ping google every so often say every 3 or 5 minutes ,
i ran it and it was pinging like a mad man , more then once per second , i though i might get blacklisted for a false ddos

How to disable front buttons when device is locked?

I don't wish to entirely disable the front buttons, I only want them to stop responding when the phone is locked (I want them to function when the phone is unlocked). Don't misunderstand: I am not looking to simply disable the light. I want the buttons to be completely 'dead' when the phone is locked up. It's actually my bf's phone, and the buttons get accidentally pressed a lot when it's in his pocket. The phone will drain 60% in just 5 hours with no screen time, just locked and in his pocket (at work). I'm tweaking the phone to last longer, but I feel that having the buttons able to be pressed even while locked can't be good for the battery. :/ Someone correct me if I'm wrong with that (but even if I am, it's still annoying... what is the purpose of the buttons being 'live' while the screen is off???). The phone is a i9505, rooted on CM12.1 with Xposed, so modules could be suggested if any such fix exists. I have the home button disabled from waking the screen, but there doesn't seem to be an option anywhere about the back and menu buttons. I know the battery on my own phone, a Huawei, is much larger, but I only experience about 6% battery loss when the screen is off for 7-9 hours, so losing 60% seems excessive to me. I've checked battery stats on the Samsung, nothing seems abnormal. Is it even possible to fix what I'm asking? Thanks to anyone who helps!

zombunny said:
I don't wish to entirely disable the front buttons, I only want them to stop responding when the phone is locked (I want them to function when the phone is unlocked). Don't misunderstand: I am not looking to simply disable the light. I want the buttons to be completely 'dead' when the phone is locked up. It's actually my bf's phone, and the buttons get accidentally pressed a lot when it's in his pocket. The phone will drain 60% in just 5 hours with no screen time, just locked and in his pocket (at work). I'm tweaking the phone to last longer, but I feel that having the buttons able to be pressed even while locked can't be good for the battery. :/ Someone correct me if I'm wrong with that (but even if I am, it's still annoying... what is the purpose of the buttons being 'live' while the screen is off???). The phone is a i9505, rooted on CM12.1 with Xposed, so modules could be suggested if any such fix exists. I have the home button disabled from waking the screen, but there doesn't seem to be an option anywhere about the back and menu buttons. I know the battery on my own phone, a Huawei, is much larger, but I only experience about 6% battery loss when the screen is off for 7-9 hours, so losing 60% seems excessive to me. I've checked battery stats on the Samsung, nothing seems abnormal. Is it even possible to fix what I'm asking? Thanks to anyone who helps!
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The keys are never on by default when the screen is off. So you either applied a setting to enable it or you have some mod applied.

Lennyz1988 said:
The keys are never on by default when the screen is off. So you either applied a setting to enable it or you have some mod applied.
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I wouldn't have enabled a setting for this purposely, as it's quite annoying. I may also be wrong, but if I remember correctly, this was existent even on stock non-rooted. I have CM12.1 on it, Xposed modules are: Always Correct, APM+, BootManager, Secure Settings, Xposed Additions, YouTube AdAway, and YouTube Background Playback.
If there is a setting for this, let's say he or I accidentally enabled it, so would you know any suggestions of how to find such a setting, so it can be switched back? I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

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I wouldn't have enabled a setting for this purposely, as it's quite annoying. I may also be wrong, but if I remember correctly, this was existent even on stock non-rooted. I have CM12.1 on it, Xposed modules are: Always Correct, APM+, BootManager, Secure Settings, Xposed Additions, YouTube AdAway, and YouTube Background Playback.
If there is a setting for this, let's say he or I accidentally enabled it, so would you know any suggestions of how to find such a setting, so it can be switched back? I appreciate you taking the time to answer.
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When the screen is off then menu and back don't work. Do you have ambient display enabled by any chance? Disable it.
Did you try a different battery? Maybe his battery needs to be replaced.

Lennyz1988 said:
When the screen is off then menu and back don't work. Do you have ambient display enabled by any chance? Disable it.
Did you try a different battery? Maybe his battery needs to be replaced.
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Oh no, you're right about that. Back and menu doesn't actually do anything when touched while locked, but they do light up and respond in that sense (interestingly, they do also wake the screen while it's locked in TWRP, though perhaps that's irrelevant). Ambient display isn't enabled. We haven't tried a different battery, he just got the phone about a month ago. Then again, I also haven't the health of the battery. Maybe it came with a bad one.

When the screen is off, the back and menu buttons should not work. Not even the lights.

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Oh no, you're right about that. Back and menu doesn't actually do anything when touched while locked, but they do light up and respond in that sense (interestingly, they do also wake the screen while it's locked in TWRP, though perhaps that's irrelevant). Ambient display isn't enabled. We haven't tried a different battery, he just got the phone about a month ago. Then again, I also haven't the health of the battery. Maybe it came with a bad one.
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I understand you now. Yes when they the phone is locked and the screen is on, they will light up. That's normal and does not give any battery drain. Post some battery screenshots and post screens of the app betterbatterystats.

Lennyz1988 said:
I understand you now. Yes when they the phone is locked and the screen is on, they will light up. That's normal and does not give any battery drain. Post some battery screenshots and post screens of the app betterbatterystats.
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Ah got it. Good to know it's not impacting his battery, but that also leaves it open as to what IS (though, the buttons lighting up while it's locked still makes me scratch my head at what Samsung was thinking). Currently going to sleep at the moment, so I'll have to take a look at it tomorrow. I know Opera Max, a VPN data compression app, was chewing up battery (did this on my phone too, but eventually it settled down with the ROM), but I froze it for the moment so it won't run until I figure out what else is causing the problem. Battery life was poor even before the installation.
Other than that, battery stats have been normal, with the display taking the majority followed by Opera browser and the Android system, with some others. Nothing outrageous.
But since you mentioned about the battery, I did start noticing more things about the phone today. Perhaps it runs so hot because of it, and I also saw that when he unplugs it from the wall charger, it will immediately drop from 100% to 90-some% (varies). Might be the calibration, but with everything else, I ended up ordering an Anker replacement from Amazon to test.

The S4 heating is normal.
Also, it's not healthy for the battery to spend extended periods of time at 100%. That is why it drops faster from 100%.

50% more battery tip on Wear24 (and other LTE AW watches) -> ~3 Days /w Min Usage

so i have been seeing REALLY crappy battery usage on my wear24 on aw2.7 despite turning off alot of things and barely using any apps.
now i EVEN have always-on ambient , and my watch lasts almost 3 days. since its always on, i rarely need to use the watch (eg. wake). i use the Sleek face which shows my agenda , weather, date, various other info on my face all the time so i just look at it. and incoming messages are shown still. here is what i do:
-KEY THING: AIRPLANE MODE! eventho i turn off LTE in connecticvity, i dont know if its a bug, but it's super annoying it keeps coming back on. this is the #1 change that improved it IMMENSELY. i think this turns off alot of useless wake functions and sync'ing
-turn off wifi (auto still keeps searching)
-only use BT
-delete msg+ / my verizon
-turn off OK google / tilt to wake
- no gestures
- no location
-turn on always on
One more thing if anyone can figure out, the watch auto turns on battery saver when under 10%. i'm curious if we can force this mode when its at 100%.

How did you delete msg+ / my verizon? With "adb?
Thanks,
Rob

update to AW 2.7, u can disable via system apps

turning off every thing is not called smart, better buy a normal watch then

I'm not going to try all of these things, but I have noticed that it re-enables the cellular radio. I'm going to try putting it in airplane mode and just keeping the bluetooth connection on. My only issue is, is there any way to get rid of the airplane icon on the watchface?
geminihc said:
so i have been seeing REALLY crappy battery usage on my wear24 on aw2.7 despite turning off alot of things and barely using any apps.
now i EVEN have always-on ambient , and my watch lasts almost 3 days. since its always on, i rarely need to use the watch (eg. wake). i use the Sleek face which shows my agenda , weather, date, various other info on my face all the time so i just look at it. and incoming messages are shown still. here is what i do:
-KEY THING: AIRPLANE MODE! eventho i turn off LTE in connecticvity, i dont know if its a bug, but it's super annoying it keeps coming back on. this is the #1 change that improved it IMMENSELY. i think this turns off alot of useless wake functions and sync'ing
-turn off wifi (auto still keeps searching)
-only use BT
-delete msg+ / my verizon
-turn off OK google / tilt to wake
- no gestures
- no location
-turn on always on
One more thing if anyone can figure out, the watch auto turns on battery saver when under 10%. i'm curious if we can force this mode when its at 100%.
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mistermojorizin said:
I'm not going to try all of these things, but I have noticed that it re-enables the cellular radio. I'm going to try putting it in airplane mode and just keeping the bluetooth connection on. My only issue is, is there any way to get rid of the airplane icon on the watchface?
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I believe rebooting the watch is what turns on the cell signal. Mine stays off until I reboot. You don't need to turn on airplane mode to turn off the cell signal. I was going to write an app to do this automatically on boot, but can't unless someone finds a method to root it.

For the always on feature, the watch face actually changes to a different face from the one I set. It's like a screen saver version of the face which I am using. Is there any way to fix the face throughout?
And how do you guy update to 2.7? Mine updated to 2.0 and it says it's the latest version.
And where is the setting for the power saving mode? Mine enter power saving at 15%.

Jackson1983 said:
For the always on feature, the watch face actually changes to a different face from the one I set. It's like a screen saver version of the face which I am using. Is there any way to fix the face throughout?
And how do you guy update to 2.7? Mine updated to 2.0 and it says it's the latest version.
And where is the setting for the power saving mode? Mine enter power saving at 15%.
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I installed 2.8 on mine through ADB

Jackson1983 said:
For the always on feature, the watch face actually changes to a different face from the one I set. It's like a screen saver version of the face which I am using. Is there any way to fix the face throughout?
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You can disable the charging display by going into app settings and disabling the charging app. I never found a way to keep the screen lit up while charging even with the always on enabled so I wrote an app to do it. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.turndapage.watchwake

Jackson1983 said:
For the always on feature, the watch face actually changes to a different face from the one I set. It's like a screen saver version of the face which I am using. Is there any way to fix the face throughout?
And how do you guy update to 2.7? Mine updated to 2.0 and it says it's the latest version.
And where is the setting for the power saving mode? Mine enter power saving at 15%.
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You're taking about ambient display. The app that sets your watch face controls that. Some have settings for this either on watch or on phone, some don't and you can't change it if you're using that face. I use watchmaker, which lets me edit every image layer in my faces and select which parts stay on. Also can create layers only visible in ambient mode.

mistermojorizin said:
I installed 2.8 on mine through ADB
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How did you update through ADB?

nastynate435 said:
How did you update through ADB?
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got adb over wifi going, got the apk from apk mirror (the watch specific wear apk), then did something like
adb connect 192.168.0.102 (or whichever ip your watch gets)
put the apk in the directory where my command window was
adb -s 192.168.0.102 install -r wearapp.apk
BUT, this is not necessary anymore. 2.8 just installs automatically now from play store on the watch.

You can just block message+ in the notifications screen, and install messages from play store

Always Best Imformation
geminihc said:
so i have been seeing REALLY crappy battery usage on my wear24 on aw2.7 despite turning off alot of things and barely using any apps.
now i EVEN have always-on ambient , and my watch lasts almost 3 days. since its always on, i rarely need to use the watch (eg. wake). i use the Sleek face which shows my agenda , weather, date, various other info on my face all the time so i just look at it. and incoming messages are shown still. here is what i do:
-KEY THING: AIRPLANE MODE! eventho i turn off LTE in connecticvity, i dont know if its a bug, but it's super annoying it keeps coming back on. this is the #1 change that improved it IMMENSELY. i think this turns off alot of useless wake functions and sync'ing
-turn off wifi (auto still keeps searching)
-only use BT
-delete msg+ / my verizon
-turn off OK google / tilt to wake
- no gestures
- no location
-turn on always on
One more thing if anyone can figure out, the watch auto turns on battery saver when under 10%. i'm curious if we can force this mode when its at 100%.
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My wear24 the battery is draining down so fast, i think its be bad battery. How can i replace the battery for my wear24?

I can't find the apk on apkmirror. Can you please post the link or the exact name of the apk.

abusalad said:
My wear24 the battery is draining down so fast, i think its be bad battery. How can i replace the battery for my wear24?
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I just got mine for $43 on eBay and it went from 93% down to 2% on a single reboot. It then stayed on 2% from 6:30pm til 6:50am when it finally died. So I charged it from 0% to 59% then it jumped to 100%. Then it discharged to 77% and then dropped to 43%. sounds like a calibration issue.
On the plus side, unlike the moto 360 it appears the back is actually screwed on instead of glued on which is great news. I may unscrew it when I get home and see how easy the battery is to access.

Notifications wonky after Pie update

Has anyone else noticed that notifications seem to be super slow in coming after the Pie update? Line and Email can take up to two hours to exhibit a notification. I've looked at the notifications area of the apps, and nothing appears to have changed that I can see, and I can't find anywhere in Pie to tell it to allow more background time for these apps. I've tried force stopping and restarting with no change.
If anyone has any idea on what is going on, and how to fix it, your help would be most appreciated. Being told your wife left you a Line message 2 hours after she did so, or that your kid sent an email 2 hours earlier, is NOT conducive to a happy home life.

Nobody else has this issue? It appears to be connected to the fact that the phone is sitting undisturbed for a long period of time. If I am carrying the phone around with me, the notifications seem to come as expected, but if the phone is just sitting on my desk for a while, they seem to come from minutes to hours later.

You could try to whitelist those apps on Battery Optimization
I'm no expert, but from what you describe sounds like the phone is entering into Doze and notifications cannot come until the next maintenance window
If a user leaves a device unplugged and stationary for a period of time, with the screen off, the device enters Doze mode. In Doze mode, the system attempts to conserve battery by restricting apps' access to network and CPU-intensive services. It also prevents apps from accessing the network and defers their jobs, syncs, and standard alarms.
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https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby
I think white listing the app prevents this behaviour

It does sound like you are correct and the phone is entering Doze mode, delaying the notifications. Thanks for that!
I will check into how to add the email and Line app to a whitelist for Doze. Hopefully it's a simple task, but I don't see anything under Battery doing a quick scan.

Just a follow up. After much searching and reading, I finally found where to turn off battery optimization for the two apps I needed notifications from. FYI:
Most things on the web say to go to Settings->Battery, then hit the three dot menu and select Battery Optimization. This does not appear on my phone. (see screenshot) To get to the list of optimized apps, you need to Search->Battery Optimization, select Battery Optimization from the results (it will take a few seconds to load), then tap Not Optimized and select All Apps. Find the app you want, tap it, then select Don't Optimize. You can also go to Apps and Notifications->Advanced->Special app access->battery optimization.
Whether this will actually fix the problem is another question entirely as most posts say that Doze continues to work. I guess we shall see.
I hope this saves someone the aggravation of trying to find something directly relating to Pie. Most things out there are for older builds.
Also, I turned off Adaptive Battery to see what the actual difference is in my light usage use case. If you are interested in the results of this test, let me know and I will post here.

Glad you were able to whitelist those apps.
I think it's weird anyway, as far as I know deep doze takes hours to trigger and the device has to be completely still. Any movement would take the device off deep sleep and enter a less aggressive doze (where notifications would be checked more often)
You did mention this is your case (you were leaving your device on your desk) but just for curiosity, how long approx would you leave your phone unattended?
Thanks and I hope this solves your issue.

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Glad you were able to whitelist those apps.
I think it's weird anyway, as far as I know deep doze takes hours to trigger and the device has to be completely still. Any movement would take the device off deep sleep and enter a less aggressive doze (where notifications would be checked more often)
You did mention this is your case (you were leaving your device on your desk) but just for curiosity, how long approx would you leave your phone unattended?
Thanks and I hope this solves your issue.
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Unlike some folks, I am not tied to my phone. It often sits on the desk undisturbed for 3 or 4 hours during the day unless a notification comes in and I pick it up to look at it. Most of my screen time is on my computer, so the phone is the external brain when out and about, but not used much otherwise. At night, I turn on airplane mode until I get up the next day, then turn it off. I'm a retired software engineer, so have no real need for constant communication anymore, and I like it that way.

how to disable zendmode ?

so I installed zenmode on my 6t and turned it on. I am currently stuck in zen mode, i dont know how to turn it off. Please dont tell me i have to wipe everything to recover phones normal state.

If I remember right it should turn off after 20 minutes. How long has it been running?

Jeffro64 said:
If I remember right it should turn off after 20 minutes. How long has it been running?
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you are right men !, I was just testing for 5 or 10 mins but was not able to do anything, aftrer a while I got a notification saying congratulations for not using your phone or something for 20 mins. So you yeah, your correct after 20 mins you can decide if you want to continue using zen mode or close it.

abati said:
you are right men !, I was just testing for 5 or 10 mins but was not able to do anything, aftrer a while I got a notification saying congratulations for not using your phone or something for 20 mins. So you yeah, your correct after 20 mins you can decide if you want to continue using zen mode or close it.
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Yup....Does exactly what it's supposed to do. Forces you to put your phone down to concentrate on other things with no distractions. Not sure I would ever use it myself and it would just be another app on my phone taking up space. I just put my phone down or turn it off if I really need to do something...Simple concept really.

Jeffro64 said:
Yup....Does exactly what it's supposed to do. Forces you to put your phone down to concentrate on other things with no distractions. Not sure I would ever use it myself and it would just be another app on my phone taking up space. I just put my phone down or turn it off if I really need to do something...Simple concept really.
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just curious question, will zen mode elliminate all apps and services that use the internet, if yes, i think the battery life might skyrocket.

abati said:
just curious question, will zen mode elliminate all apps and services that use the internet, if yes, i think the battery life might skyrocket.
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From what I understand it disables everything but Camera and emergency calls.

you cant. You missing all the point of this app )))

I've tried Zen Mode this morning and found out it was unstable and bypass-able
- Notifications still come through to Ambient Display
- Can be bypassed if you use Oneplus Navigation Gesture. Just swipe it up and hold to access Recent App, and switch to another one. Alternatively, you can also access Recent Apps when the camera app is open. Launcher cannot be accessed though.
- You can even go as far as to Setting and force stop the Zen Mode app, but this does nothing; Zen mode is still on
- It loses count some times (timer freezes, although the countdown still going in background). Go to camera and go back may solve this

Well, that's why...
It's not stable on 6T yet.

If you have Google assistant enabled by holding down the power button, it will, at least in my experience, come up and you can tell it to open settings and disable it from there ??