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got it!! thanks
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
These can all be answered yourself with a search as well; with 48 posts, one would think it was known already.
FrEsHaZzBuRu said:
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
These can all be answered yourself with a search as well; with 48 posts, one would think it was known already.
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HI.THNX MUCH
I forgot to mention:
The only difference is that after every ~1MB of content downloaded, the connection restarts. When browsing web pages, it is not noticable, however, when streaming audio it will re buffer every 1MB (which for 32kbps, come out to about every 7 mins).
I've read about the tzones hack and it seems like its a pain. I mean I'm all for saving money and $5.99 compared to $29.99 is a big difference, but is it really worth it?
The 'T-Zones' hack (actually the feature is now called 'TMobileWeb') works great if you take into the lmitation of the Proxy server port restrictions and the 900k limit on a continuous stream of data.
If you just need to browse the web it works great. If you are into streaming audio, then it can be a pain. At around 900k I get an error that I have to disconnect and reconnect to overcome. I can't use my favorite IM program because it does not support a proxy.
Is it worth the hassle? I guess it really depends on your needs.
Just as long as the program that is being used has a proxy setting option, then it will work for Tzones. I had no difficulties getting Tzones to work and the only complaint that i have is with streaming audio (which i rarely do since i bought the 2GB miniSD card). When streaming audio, it is not needed to reconnect the whole edge connection, but only re buffering the song is needed, then it'll play for another 7 minutes or however long 900KB of data takes to stream. IMO, the huge savings of $24 per month is golden, there is not anything really different besides not having access to hotspots.
so I can use the hacked version of AIM and internet explorer at the same time, and also have an exchange server set up without changing the proxy?
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so I can use the hacked version of AIM and internet explorer at the same time,
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Definitely. I'm using the hacked AIM and I am able to use PIE at the same time.
sekks said:
and also have an exchange server set up without changing the proxy?
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Not too sure about this one, i'm using a POP account and having my phone send and receive every 15mins to check for mail, which then downloads and shows in my inbox (labeled Comcast on my device). Search around for the exchange server question, I read it somewhere in a thread with a tzones topic but i wasn't too interested in it so i skimmed through it.
FrEsHaZzBuRu said:
Just as long as the program that is being used has a proxy setting option, then it will work for Tzones. I had no difficulties getting Tzones to work and the only complaint that i have is with streaming audio (which i rarely do since i bought the 2GB miniSD card). When streaming audio, it is not needed to reconnect the whole edge connection, but only re buffering the song is needed, then it'll play for another 7 minutes or however long 900KB of data takes to stream. IMO, the huge savings of $24 per month is golden, there is not anything really different besides not having access to hotspots.
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What I am saying though is that mine stops at 900k and gives an error that the server is not responding or is busy. I then have to re-establish my stream to continue.
I wish mine would simply buffer.....consider yourself lucky. It seems that some people don't suffer the same limitations as others. It varies by area it would seem.
what is the t-zone hack? thanks
I got it and it's running great
But I can't log into my messenger .....
help , please
Where are the settings I have not seen them on the topic. The one I use is
Proxy Settings
[email protected]
and the waps are
wap.voicestream.com
Is this is what everyone is using? if not please post the other hack.
yea post the hacks please, thanks
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using either getmorespeed.voicestream.com or the 216.165.... setting are getting me an 'access denied' lately. anybody else experiences this?
SwerveAM said:
using either getmorespeed.voicestream.com or the 216.165.... setting are getting me an 'access denied' lately. anybody else experiences this?
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Damm it man either I jinxed myself or you did lol Access denied as well
yeah, i think t-mobile is catching on to this workaround. The funny thing about this is that I am able to access AIM, check my mail, and do other things, except browse the internet with any web browser. T-Mobile is probably putting restrictions into url searches. I'm not exactly sure how this whole thingamajiggy works, but i guess they're blocking web browsing, and want us to use T-Mobile Data, for 29.99.
that really sucks, i've only had the mda for about 2 1/2 months.
Still working great for me. I doubt that they will do away with the proxy server because even the most basic phone now days support full HTML browsing. They would also have to introduce some intermediate feature (between the $6.00 Tmobileweb and $20.00 balackberry) to compete with everyone else if they did.
I am trying to get my internet apps to run using this proxy setting but the only thing that works is the internet explorer. I have the network management pointing to my tmobile data setting that containes the proxy. Any one have a solution for this?
With the announcement that T-mobile will start charging $15 per month for tethering this month, does anyone know how this affects the HD2? I have installed the wifi tethering app that was in the European ROM and it works fine, but I was curious how T-mobile is going to detect/impose the tethering fee. Does anyone have any info on this?
I do not know of any technology that can detect a tether other than offiical carrier tether application. I doubt they could detect it because you are using a 3rd party app, so all cumulative data usage would be viewed as if it was just normal browsing/download etc. EDIT* : Normal browsing/downloading on the phones browser that is...just to clarify.
From what I understand, the tethering package is going to be just for people that tether, IE, if your device isn't tethered, then you won't be able to use data...only if it is psyically tethered to a PC will you be able to actually access data.
The HD2 should not be affected by this as it had tethering before this plan came in and it is intergrated into the OS. Tmobile typically grandfathers users in so since we all signed up for this data plan before this change came about, we should not have any issues.
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I do not know of any technology that can detect a tether other than offiical carrier tether application. I doubt they could detect it because you are using a 3rd party app, so all cumulative data usage would be viewed as if it was just normal browsing/download etc.
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They can easily detect that you are tethering because of where the data is coming from.
When you use your phone's browser, most sites default to the mobile version because your phone is reporting what it is and what browser you are running. (although with IE for example you can tell it to preset desktop pages).
When you tether, you get the desktop versions of the site because your browswer is reporting a desktop OS and browswer and is presented with the proper page.
Just something to think about........
anhyeuemmaimai said:
They can easily detect that you are tethering because of where the data is coming from.
When you use your phone's browser, most sites default to the mobile version because your phone is reporting what it is and what browser you are running. (although with IE for example you can tell it to preset desktop pages).
When you tether, you get the desktop versions of the site because your browswer is reporting a desktop OS and browswer and is presented with the proper page.
Just something to think about........
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For t-mobile to sniff your packets to detect that is likely against the law and there's nothing stopping you from editing the user agent string in your browser to make it look like a mobile browser
Its one thing for a customer to break TOS by tethering, at most you are breaking civil contract law, all TMO could do is terminate your contract or maybe sue you in civil court for breech of contract, they likely would not go that route.
However for them to start sniffing customers packets would be breaking CRIMINAL law
There is also nothing to stop a mobile browser from reporting itself as a desktop browser by user agent string to make a site load a "desktop experience" In no way is editing your user agent string against any kind of law!
The user agent string is really about the only way tmobile could detect tethering other than having a rigged tethering app, like it sounds like the android platform has. There is no kind of special flag set on TCP/IP packets that signify that they came from the phone or a tethered laptop, tablet, etc!
it is not against the law for t-mobile to packet sniff what goes on on their network. when you sign up for service, you agree to their terms........
I could be way off but I don't think there plan is to charge for just using tethering. The data cap on the current plans are 5gbs and after that you are slowed to edge speeds. I think with the tethering plan it is for a much higher if not unlimited data cap.
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I can confirm the tethering restriction is in place for me constantly now.
I have a hd2, tmobile usa, custom rom, using usb w/the Internet Sharing app.
i was just kicked off tethering tonight and all my desktop browser requests went to the tmobile 'you must buy a tether plan' page.
I disconnected, reconnected, same thing. I am nowhere near even 1GB in data usage this month.
Only way that's fixed it so far is changing my t-mobile data connection to use internet2.voicestream.com instead of epc.tmobile.com
-Tony
t-mobile tethering
It seems they are regulating the user agents allowed to access their network.
One can change the user agent in Firefox with the plugin "user agent switcher"
Changing to a mobile browser assures access, but limits the browsing experience on some pages.
Lets see how long it takes them to ban this nice hybird useragent.
" Mozilla/5.0 (SCH-F859/F859DG12;U;NUCLEUS/2.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Firefox/3.6.9 "
subtle1 said:
It seems they are regulating the user agents allowed to access their network.
One can change the user agent in Firefox with the plugin "user agent switcher"
Changing to a mobile browser assures access, but limits the browsing experience on some pages.
Lets see how long it takes them to ban this nice hybird useragent.
" Mozilla/5.0 (SCH-F859/F859DG12;U;NUCLEUS/2.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Firefox/3.6.9 "
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+1 Good job, I'm impressed! BTW, here's a rock solid UA from Opera Mobile 10, but you get mobile pages where applicable.
"Opera/9.80 (Windows Mobile; WCE; Opera Mobi/WMD-50433; U; en) Presto/2.4.13 Version/10.00"
ncohafmuta said:
I can confirm the tethering restriction is in place for me constantly now.
I have a hd2, tmobile usa, custom rom, using usb w/the Internet Sharing app.
i was just kicked off tethering tonight and all my desktop browser requests went to the tmobile 'you must buy a tether plan' page.
I disconnected, reconnected, same thing. I am nowhere near even 1GB in data usage this month.
Only way that's fixed it so far is changing my t-mobile data connection to use internet2.voicestream.com instead of epc.tmobile.com
-Tony
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have you tried a tether app off the marketplace such as WMVrouter? The internet sharing app included with the software was offiically included.
Thanks subtle1 and joeray! Worked for my wife's on Nokia Nuron- Is our only internet connection so you saved our bacon... Did not get cut off from my HD2 yet...
looks bad.. will keep following this thread
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have you tried a tether app off the marketplace such as WMVrouter? The internet sharing app included with the software was offiically included.
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nope. haven't been able to get any wifi router stuff to work in the last couple rom revisions.
remember, i'm on custom Energy rom, not tmobile official.
-Tony
Tom Codon wifi router cab still works perfectly for me. No messages from T Mobile. Just tried it.
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Tom Codon wifi router cab still works perfectly for me. No messages from T Mobile. Just tried it.
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Works for me, too, and I'm using a custom Rom.
Same here...been tethering for the last 20 minutes no problem. WiFi and USB both work.
Mine works..built in internet sharing app, energy rom.
Tom Codon wifi router cab is the "Ticket"
Tom Codon wifi router cab seems to be the working app, and not the HTC Wifi Router App for WinMo. They may have block used of HTC's app. What do you guys think?
Time for me to update this thread!
For all of the T-Mobile users who are still trying to find a way to circumvent the user agent checking that T-Mobile does while using a third party hotspot app and don't feel like decompiling, editing XMLs, and recompiling, or messing with editing APNs, or ETC... A simple solution that I'm using; use a VPN.
Search the market for: Hotspot Shield
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Also DO NOT use the native hotspot, I state this because of all the edits I've tried, the native hotspot still connects to the APN: pcwebs.tmobile.com instead of epc.tmobile.com - Which sniffs out the user agent of your browser and sends you to the upsell page.
If you're on the Galaxy S3 and JB use this app by TrevE
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988735
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All others that are capable use Wifi Tether for root users.
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1 - Start Hotspot Shield. (As of 10/18/2013 If you select to "Restore Purchase" Redeem code is "FREE" it'l give you 30 days of elite service for free!)
2 - Wait for connection to establish and a "key icon" to show up in your statusbar.
3 - Start Wifi Tether for Root Users or TrevE Mod which ever you're using.
4 - Configure wifi tether settings.
[For SGS3 users on JB using WifiTether_TrevE_Mod Version 3.2-Beta2-041713, I've found the best setting to use is as follows:
Device Profile: Generic ICS/JB (wlan0)
Setup Method: Auto
Wifi Encryption: Your Preference
SsID: (whatever you wanna use)
Don't disable bluetooth: Checked
Wifi driver reload 2: Checked
Enable Access-Control: Checked
MMS Clamping: Checked
Routing fix: Checked
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5 - Tap icon to start tethering.
Once all of the messages stop popping up... Enjoy!
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Optionally:
If you wanna setup your own personal VPN - G.I.Y.F. (Google is your friend) Search for OpenVPN methods. PPTP also works.
Im just a little too lazy to type the instructions. ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ
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Also I'm using the following setup:
Device: SGH-T999
ROM: Synergy (R484) ► http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113452◄
Kernel: Faux (OC'd 1.62 GHz) ► http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089801◄
Modem: UVLI8 ► http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880987◄
Data Plan: Unlimited Nationwide 4G
*UVLI8 happens to be the best modem for the areas that I frequent, which ranges from Waukegan all the way to downtown Chicago; it keeps me on HSPA+ 85-90% of the time. So experiment and find out which modem works best for you in your area.
►http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31409271#post31409271 ◄ Here's a map to help you guys get started on finding the right modem for you.
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If anyone has an issue where Hotspot Shield is not working on their device and giving you the error message:
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Critical Error |
VPN API is not available on your device. |
Unable to find explicit activity class |
{com.android.vpndialogs/com.android.vpndialogs.ConfirmDialog}, Have you |
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It, in my case, is caused by having Xposed Framework installed. The only fix I've found for it was to Titanium Backup my apps, then uninstall the Xposed Framework - requires you to boot into recovery and flash the zip file "Xposed-Disabler-CWM.zip" then you have to Wipe Data/Cache/Dalvik/Fix Permissions, flash your rom again, and restore from TB.
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Vee63b said:
For all of the T-Mobile users who are still trying to find a way to circumvent the user agent checking that T Mobile while using the native hotspot app and don't feel like decompiling, editing XMLs, and recompiling, or messing with editing APNs, or ETC... A simple solution that I'm using; use a VPN.
Search the market for: VPN One Click
Also don't use the native hotspot, if you're on the Galaxy S3 and JB use this app by TrevE
All others capable use wifi tether for root users.
Enjoy! I'll post later to help you guys setup your own personal VPN. I'm currently in a moving truck moving to Chicago. ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ
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Sounds nice! i'll check it out when you post your setup
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Sounds nice! i'll check it out when you post your setup
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Did you have a chance to try this bypass method? And did it work for you?
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Vee63b said:
Did you have a chance to try this bypass method? And did it work for you?
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it worked for me after a lot of screwing around on my note 2.
Working so far, I'll give it some time just to make sure it doesn't pop up again or if it just stops working. I'll report back later :thumbup:
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GREAT! Now is everyone using the vpn one click app or has anyone attempted to set their own vpn server yet?
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Vee63b said:
GREAT! Now is everyone using the vpn one click app or has anyone attempted to set their own vpn server yet?
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i read about it but not quite sure how it works, does the server go on the phone or the computer? isn't there more to it then just setting up a server, otherwise why would companies make you pay for this?
robl45 said:
i read about it but not quite sure how it works, does the server go on the phone or the computer? isn't there more to it then just setting up a server, otherwise why would companies make you pay for this?
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The way a VPN (Virtual Private Network) works is by anonymously masking ALL network traffic to it's destination. I hope my explaination can help those who doesn't understand how a VPN connection work. Here we go:
Normally -
A mobile device connects to service provider monitored internet. In T-Mobile's case, packets are sniffed out that contain any form of user-agent strings, and if the strings report anything other than a mobile device, internet connection is denied and you are redirected to the dreaded "upsell page".
Think of it as water with particles in it passing through sand before reaching the well of water below the sand.
If the water is your network traffic the particles in the water would represent your user agent and the sand is your service provider's filters; not all of the particles will make it through the sand and into the well if they arent small enough to pass through the grains of sand.
Using a VPN is kinda like shoving a tube through the sand and sending your water & particle mixture through the tube directly into the well below. Everything makes it through whether the particles are big or small.
Sorry its late and I probably used a bad analogy. Anywho I hope it made a bit of sense. Lol
I can help you set up your own private VPN. The problem is there's some many different types of routers available for everyone to use. The PPTP type VPN is actually set up through your router. For most people there will be an option to utilize the PPTP port within your router setup screen. Open a web browser, type in 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 or "routerlogin", the webpage will ask for a username and password. If you changes it, whatever your username and password is. If you didn't, the default username is "admin or administrator" and the default password is usually, "password" dig through the available settings you have and let me know if you have the option to enable anything labeled "PPTP" also let me know which router you have.
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yea, so basically, you'd have to setup and only use at one place? is there a solution that will let you tether to any computer anywhere? like is there something you can just setup on the phone? I mean something we can setup as opposed to this 1click vpn which my guess is won't stay free for long.
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yea, so basically, you'd have to setup and only use at one place? is there a solution that will let you tether to any computer anywhere? like is there something you can just setup on the phone? I mean something we can setup as opposed to this 1click vpn which my guess is won't stay free for long.
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You actually set up your home network to host you own personal VPN. So no matter where you are, your phone would always use your home network.
Your phone will still use the service provider's data service, however, it would use it only to connect to your VPN at home and then securely reroute that data back to your device. So as all of the data is moved along T-Mobile's servers the data in your VPN cannot be read by tmobile's filtering process.
So one personal vpn server would be all you need. There's an option if you check your "settings -> more settings -> VPN" that will let you use a VPN for all connections on your device. Let me know if there's anything I can clarify.
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Just remember the hit on network performance. Your home network is downloading from the net, encrypting it, and uploading it to your device. This assumes you're outside your home network.
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thanks for sharing !!
Reilly1812 said:
Just remember the hit on network performance. Your home network is downloading from the net, encrypting it, and uploading it to your device. This assumes you're outside your home network.
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This is true, its not that bad of a lag for me here in Chicago however, normally my download speeds are between 5-7 Mbps on 4G, with the VPn running I drop to 3-5 Mbps, but I've kinda tweaked the tether apk to start OpenVPN when tethering starts and to disconnect when I turn off tethering. So for the most part I never notice the hit on my speed, I've configured packet compression on my personal VPN server. I'm using a Linksys E4200 on AT&T U-Verse. Thanks for pointing that out for me by the way Reilly, I know I've forgot to list the pros and cons of a vpn, I have a few minutes in my hectic life to hop on xda and make a few quick posts but never enough time to go into detail and proof-read my own posts.
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giffy89 said:
thanks for sharing !!
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No problem. I was just seeing alot of people asking for a surefire method to bypass the UA check to connect things that you can't simply use a plugin to spoof. So I decided to share how I get by it on the Nationwide Unlimited 4G plan.
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Vee63b said:
GREAT! Now is everyone using the vpn one click app or has anyone attempted to set their own vpn server yet?
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I just setup my own VPN server on my Windows Home Server 2011 box last night. I'm now tethering and haven't had any issues yet.
So far, so good. :good:
I have my UA set normally and am on the unlimited plan as well.
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Just remember the hit on network performance. Your home network is downloading from the net, encrypting it, and uploading it to your device. This assumes you're outside your home network.
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Yes, there is a hit but it's still MUCH faster than the slow wifi at Starbucks.
mark925 said:
I just setup my own VPN server on my Windows Home Server 2011 box last night. I'm now tethering and haven't had any issues yet.
So far, so good. :good:
I have my UA set normally and am on the unlimited plan as well.
Yes, there is a hit but it's still MUCH faster than the slow wifi at Starbucks.
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Lol, originally I started looking for a way to bypass UA checks because I wanted to update my laptop which reports UAs as Internet Explorer through the Windows Update Center, and my Xbox 360 which also reports as IE when connected to Xbox Live. I didn't really need tethering until then. But its a pretty convenient function to have when I'm out and about.
Glad I could help out the other users on T-Mobile, lol I guess as the slogan says, "Stick Together"
Happy tethering everyone.
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Hey, thanks for the info. If you're using a VPN it should work with most wifi tether apps though, shouldn't it? I'm on a N4 and CM10.1, which I guess should have about the same tethering app as the stock firmware. Also, it should work with BT tethering, shouldn't it?
Another question, is VPN One Click really free, or is there a catch? My router doesn't seem to have the VPN option you mentioned before, and my home internet appears to be 15mb down, but only 1mb up, which would limit considerably my speed even if I did a personal VPN.
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Hey, thanks for the info. If you're using a VPN it should work with most wifi tether apps though, shouldn't it? I'm on a N4 and CM10.1, which I guess should have about the same tethering app as the stock firmware. Also, it should work with BT tethering, shouldn't it?
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I use Wi-Fi Tether for Root Users and it works fine with VPN.
I tested with the native app, but it doesn't connect to the internet. So that's that.
With Wifi Tether for Root Users, it worked once but in a very flaky way. After that one time, couldn't get it working again. Tried many different profiles, and the one in which I don't get any log errors is forcing the generic one, forcing one of the setup methods. Apparently it doesn't work with the N4, there's another N4 user in the reviews that has problems too. Another very similar app is Open Garden's wifi tether, but it seems to be pretty much the same app as Wifi Tether for root users, has an almost identical interface and options. And of course, also doesn't work. Barnacle is another that doesn't work with the N4. By the way, this is all without even using VPN, so those aren't viable for us with the N4.
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I tested with the native app, but it doesn't connect to the internet. So that's that.
With Wifi Tether for Root Users, it worked once but in a very flaky way. After that one time, couldn't get it working again. Tried many different profiles, and the one in which I don't get any log errors is forcing the generic one, forcing one of the setup methods. Apparently it doesn't work with the N4, there's another N4 user in the reviews that has problems too. Another very similar app is Open Garden's wifi tether, but it seems to be pretty much the same app as Wifi Tether for root users, has an almost identical interface and options. And of course, also doesn't work. Barnacle is another that doesn't work with the N4. By the way, this is all without even using VPN, so those aren't viable for us with the N4.
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Possibly it's because the app hasn't been updated in months and is not playing well with 4.2.1 or having encryption issues with the device
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I had a question regarding how a persons network provider, whoever it may be, tracks a subscribers Data usage as in what apps are using data...
To explain more about the question, my Carrier offers a data package for ** amount in which you are allowed to use all the whatsapp you want. Unlimited whatsapp usage for a month to be more specific.
So my question is, how will the carrier know exactly that the data being used on the phone is specifically only being used for whatsapp, considering on a smartphone almost every other app uses data when it has a connection...?
Secondly... Provided there is a way for the carrier to track the apps specific data usage, is there a way to hide that/route the entire phones data usage along that path so as to make the carrier think its being used by whatsapp only...??
Looking forward to some helpful info as I'm a generous thanker
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You can block out data usage with a vpn.
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rp56 said:
You can block out data usage with a vpn.
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Care to elaborate...??
As far as I know a VPN is to hide your location and IP... Wouldn't really mask or make it seem as everything running on one program...
Or am I wrong...?
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DrunkFuX666 said:
Care to elaborate...??
As far as I know a VPN is to hide your location and IP... Wouldn't really mask or make it seem as everything running on one program...
Or am I wrong...?
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Well if I could take a guess (I'm not an expert on this though) the carrier draws references from traces of evidence that you used the Whatsapp service, and uses that for it's info. It's most likely that when you connect to Whatsapp servers it'll send the necessary information off to the carrier. That's just a guess, though, I don't know much on that.
If you block that out (ex. with a VPN) then it'll (probably) skew it, because VPNs run on top of your connection and make all your information inaccessible to others.
Hopefully that clears it up?
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Well if I could take a guess (I'm not an expert on this though) the carrier draws references from traces of evidence that you used the Whatsapp service, and uses that for it's info. It's most likely that when you connect to Whatsapp servers it'll send the necessary information off to the carrier. That's just a guess, though, I don't know much on that.
If you block that out (ex. with a VPN) then it'll (probably) skew it, because VPNs run on top of your connection and make all your information inaccessible to others.
Hopefully that clears it up?
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Kindof makes sense... But... That would have the flipside as to make the carrier think you used everything EXCEPT whatsapp since they got no specific server info of it being used...??
Because according to their policy, whatsapp is free to use... While using any other data app you will be charged... So if they don't know what your using they could charge you for everything including whatsapp...??
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DrunkFuX666 said:
Kindof makes sense... But... That would have the flipside as to make the carrier think you used everything EXCEPT whatsapp since they got no specific server info of it being used...??
Because according to their policy, whatsapp is free to use... While using any other data app you will be charged... So if they don't know what your using they could charge you for everything including whatsapp...??
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Yes they'd charge you for everything, even Whatsapp.
That is, if that's how to collect their info. The VPN might not do anything at all, depending on how they find out if you're using it.
VPN will still count data traffic, there is no reason it should help with anything.
1 thing that i have noticed is that my carrier just counts download, the uploaded data does not matter.
Hmmmm... So then there is no work around as such...?
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Your carrier knows what IP addresses and ports the WhatsApp service uses. What they then do is monitor the amount of data transferred to those IP addresses/across those ports and remove that number from the total amount of data you have transferred.
VPN's are normally counter-productive to trying to get free data usage because although the Carrier can't see what you're sending they can still see it's not destined for WhatsApp. Normally.
Now if their bandwidth usage monitoring equipment only checks the data usage through a port then you could configure your VPN to use the same ports as WhatsApp. Then as far as the Carrier knows that's WhatsApp data going through there.
ferret141 said:
Your carrier knows what IP addresses and ports the WhatsApp service uses. What they then do is monitor the amount of data transferred to those IP addresses/across those ports and remove that number from the total amount of data you have transferred.
VPN's are normally counter-productive to trying to get free data usage because although the Carrier can't see what you're sending they can still see it's not destined for WhatsApp. Normally.
Now if their bandwidth usage monitoring equipment only checks the data usage through a port then you could configure your VPN to use the same ports as WhatsApp. Then as far as the Carrier knows that's WhatsApp data going through there.
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Would you know how to configure these ports...?
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No idea for android. Sorry.
I am looking for the best free VPN / IP hider and wondering what you guys suggest???
Thanks
I don't know about free, but PrivateInternetAccess is what I use. it's $40/yr but you get apps for all your devices. They provide a SOCKS5 proxy too, which I setup in my torrent client to hide my torrent IP address, but still have full speed regular access for the rest of my internet usage. I've tried the PIA android app and it works as expected.
MrBaltazar said:
I don't know about free, but PrivateInternetAccess is what I use. it's $40/yr but you get apps for all your devices. They provide a SOCKS5 proxy too, which I setup in my torrent client to hide my torrent IP address, but still have full speed regular access for the rest of my internet usage. I've tried the PIA android app and it works as expected.
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thanks will look into that
I've recently started using Opera VPN. It is a free app on Google Play Store. No charges and it works great for what I need on my phone. Don't want the corporate IT to see what I'm looking at on my phone at work while using wifi.
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For torrents I use btguard 6 a month
I also use Private Internet Access and can confirm that it is great service. I run it on my windows 10 laptop and note 7 using the provided apps which have easy access settings for encryption standards. The reason why I chose PIA is they are based in USA, which paradoxically has no law requiring them to hold records of access, so even if they were subpoenaed they would have nothing regarding your browsing. Not that I'm hiding anything shady but it's nice to have some level of privacy online. I don't use it for torrenting but as mentioned they have socks.
mkhoury said:
I am looking for the best free VPN / IP hider and wondering what you guys suggest???
Thanks
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IPVanish
IPVanish
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