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Since updating to KitKat RAM usage has been awful, 700 MB is minimum. It kills my multitasking because every background app is killed.. Any sollutions? Thanks
Same here. Google said they will improve ram usage with kitkat but they made it more trash.
matejilic said:
Since updating to KitKat RAM usage has been awful, 700 MB is minimum. It kills my multitasking because every background app is killed.. Any sollutions? Thanks
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Interesting as I'm using a custom ROM (see my signature) which is android v4.4.2 and I'm consistently seeing the lowest used memory since v4.3 took more for graphics. With 4.3 I was seeing 76% used now I see as low as 53%. With regular 66%.
If apps are restarting it is not noticeable.
3DSammy said:
Interesting as I'm using a custom ROM (see my signature) which is android v4.4.2 and I'm consistently seeing the lowest used memory since v4.3 took more for graphics. With 4.3 I was seeing 76% used now I see as low as 53%. With regular 66%.
If apps are restarting it is not noticeable.
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How much ram is that percent out of though? Third tablet is supposed to have 2 GB ram and I know they say the GPU takes some but I'm also only seeing about 800 mega bytes actually used and out of that only around 200-300 free. It's not really an issue for me but why dues the GPU need so much
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abdel12345 said:
How much ram is that percent out of though? Third tablet is supposed to have 2 GB ram and I know they say the GPU takes some but I'm also only seeing about 800 mega bytes actually used and out of that only around 200-300 free. It's not really an issue for me but why dues the GPU need so much
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I was referring to a Nexus 10, so 2GB. Performance/screen resolution is the reason for so much memory allotted to the GPU. Combined with the OS requirements it seems as if there should be more available but PC's have been allocating memory to GPUs for years.
We have already seen some tablets with 3GB and soon with 64 bit ARM processors and an Android OS to match we'll see 4GB tabs.
As you mentioned unless you are impacted this is much to do about nothing.
3DSammy said:
I was referring to a Nexus 10, so 2GB. Performance/screen resolution is the reason for so much memory allotted to the GPU. Combined with the OS requirements it seems as if there should be more available but PC's have been allocating memory to GPUs for years.
We have already seen some tablets with 3GB and soon with 64 bit ARM processors and an Android OS to match we'll see 4GB tabs.
As you mentioned unless you are impacted this is much to do about nothing.
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I was talking about my nexus 10 too.
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Hello ,i have g pad v500 ..I want ask about ram. Factory give this tablet 2mb ram. When i go settings i see free memory about 950mb ram..How can free some memory? Sorry for my english is not good..
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I don't understand your question.
Using ram is good, because it's used, and free ram is doing nothing.
If you go to the task manager settings you can set "auto clear Ram" to every hour.
Manually closing apps clears ram too.
But the whole point of having 2 Gb of ram is hat you can have more apps running at the same time.
ASW1 said:
I don't understand your question.
Using ram is good, because it's used, and free ram is doing nothing.
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I think he's wondering why despite having 2gb of RAM, even if you have just turned on your tablet you find just 950 mb of free ram instead of 1,5 / 2 Gb.
I'm surprised too seeing a huge ram necessity just for the os..
mightmagic said:
Hello ,i have g pad v500 ..I want ask about ram. Factory give this tablet 2mb ram. When i go settings i see free memory about 950mb ram..How can free some memory? Sorry for my english is not good..
thanks
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This is caused mainly by the useless bloatware that manufacturers have preinstalled. Use an app like titanium backup or greenify to freeze/hibernate the apps that you dont need or install a custom rom which comes debloated to free up your device's ram.
I was always told Unused Ram is Wasted Ram
brewer15650 said:
I was always told Unused Ram is Wasted Ram
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My samsung galaxy tab 2 had almost full ram when i bought it because of the ridiculous touchwiz and so many useless programs that i never had intended to use. As a result when i was trying to play a game the tablet was lagging as hell. I searched a bit and found about rooting and installing custom roms, i installed then cyanogen mod and i had like 250mb occupied out of 900mb. Needless to say that the tablet was like 100 times faster than its stock firmware. So the moto unused ram is wasted ram isnt quite true because you might need that extra memory (for example if you play heavy games like modern combat 4 or gta). If you dont have enough free memory the system will try to disable other applications and android isnt known for its task management capabilities in contrary to ios which is supposed to handle applications and memory better(i dont have a personal experience about this though as i dont own an apple device). Lg g pad has a lot of memory and i ve never reached its memory to its full limit even on stock fw.
katsika said:
My samsung galaxy tab 2 had almost full ram when i bought it because of the ridiculous touchwiz and so many useless programs that i never had intended to use. As a result when i was trying to play a game the tablet was lagging as hell. I searched a bit and found about rooting and installing custom roms, i installed then cyanogen mod and i had like 250mb occupied out of 900mb. Needless to say that the tablet was like 100 times faster than its stock firmware. So the moto unused ram is wasted ram isnt quite true because you might need that extra memory (for example if you play heavy games like modern combat 4 or gta). If you dont have enough free memory the system will try to disable other applications and android isnt known for its task management capabilities in contrary to ios which is supposed to handle applications and memory better(i dont have a personal experience about this though as i dont own an apple device). Lg g pad has a lot of memory and i ve never reached its memory to its full limit even on stock fw.
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Disable other application. You'll want to slip a microSD card into a slot on the side that's covered by a little door. The G Pad supports cards up to 64GB.
I love my galaxy 5 switched for a galaxy 4 lol...... My question is does anybody notice how much more ram this uses over the galaxy 4 My galaxy 4 with everything closed it would be down to 600mb being used the galaxy 5 no matter what you do you can't get it to use less than 1gb is everybody experiencing this ?? Any ideas why this is happening or how to improve it ???
gdmlaz said:
I love my galaxy 5 switched for a galaxy 4 lol...... My question is does anybody notice how much more ram this uses over the galaxy 4 My galaxy 4 with everything closed it would be down to 600mb being used the galaxy 5 no matter what you do you can't get it to use less than 1gb is everybody experiencing this ?? Any ideas why this is happening or how to improve it ???
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the big reason is galaxy s5 has tons of crap running in the background that eat your memory (s health, s voice, google services, knox, bloatwares and many more), you could simply disable them to save your memory.
having all said that, kitkat now has reputation for advanced memory management, you should not worry about that much, it will automatically clean up your memory when it needs
link for your reference: http://bit.ly/1kHiMI5
This is how Linux/Android works, it uses RAM and clears RAM when needed. Because you have 2GB of RAM it can use more to improve multitasking. People really seem confused about such an easy function, this is how it is supposed to be.
babygau said:
the big reason is galaxy s5 has tons of crap running in the background that eat your memory (s health, s voice, google services, knox, bloatwares and many more), you could simply disable them to save your memory.
having all said that, kitkat now has reputation for advanced memory management, you should not worry about that much, it will automatically clean up your memory when it needs
link for your reference: http://bit.ly/1kHiMI5
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johan81 said:
This is how Linux/Android works, it uses RAM and clears RAM when needed. Because you have 2GB of RAM it can use more to improve multitasking. People really seem confused about such an easy function, this is how it is supposed to be.
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Thanks for the information good to know :good::good::good:
http://bgr.com/2015/04/28/galaxy-s6-vs-iphone-6-vs-htc-one-m9-comparison-speed-test/
Watch until the end!
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TouchWiz eats too much RAM requiring each apps to reload. Check out the Free RAM available on the S6 threads and you'll see that it barely has free RAM.
according to this, i should have gotten a iphone 6 (something that falls in between). Guess I'll have to chunk this M9 DevEd in the garbage and learn to like IOS ?
theveterans said:
TouchWiz eats too much RAM requiring each apps to reload. Check out the Free RAM available on the S6 threads and you'll see that it barely has free RAM.
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Free ram is wasted ram. I highly doubt touchwiz is using so much memory it's causing other apps to be killed. It's more likely that Samsung got a little happy with killing apps in the background trying to save battery.
Probably will be fixed in a update...
Hoping HTC is able to optimize for the s810 as well, as it seems very poorly optimized atm
xxquicksh0txx said:
Free ram is wasted ram. I highly doubt touchwiz is using so much memory it's causing other apps to be killed. It's more likely that Samsung got a little happy with killing apps in the background trying to save battery.
Probably will be fixed in a update...
Hoping HTC is able to optimize for the s810 as well, as it seems very poorly optimized atm
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Well, if the RAM is taken over by just the UI and System, it's a wasted RAM. How come M9 usually has over 1 GB of Free RAM yet it can load all of the apps that are cached in RAM while S6 has about 200 MB Free yet it reloads apps EVEN IF those are supposed to be CACHED. I suspect a memory bloat where there's little RAM available for APPS to cache properly.
all that this video show is the following:
- persistent software issues on the Samsungs like hangs and needless killing apps out of RAM
- the s810 / DDR4 / 3GB combo on the M9 quality software really shines when it comes to multitasking
- Apple's high IPC from just two cores should be a big a lesson to anyone building Android SoCs
My g5 plus can't even hold 4 apps in memory. Will this be fixed in Oreo or is there something which I can do to fix it. I had the stock messages, Gmail, chrome and hangouts open in the background. I only have Snapchat and a few games installed. I'm using Nova launcher and I have the 2gb model. This is frustrating as apps keep on refreshing.
DarthMaul14 said:
My g5 plus can't even hold 4 apps in memory. Will this be fixed in Oreo or is there something which I can do to fix it. I had the stock messages, Gmail, chrome and hangouts open in the background. I only have Snapchat and a few games installed. I'm using Nova launcher and I have the 2gb model. This is frustrating as apps keep on refreshing.
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Chrome is likely the big culprit here... Try a more RAM friendly browser and/or keep your number of Chrome tabs open to a minimum.
Not to be the bearer of bad news, but Nougat's memory management is quite good, and I don't think Oreo is much better from what I have heard... If anything Oreo uses a little bit more RAM. Leaps and bounds improvements have been made in Android's RAM management especially since the JellyBean era, I don't think there is much room for significant improvement especially since the base OS just keeps slowly getting bigger and bigger.
Try going into Developer Options and open Running Processes and see what is really using the RAM. To be honest, I just looked my biggest RAM users are Walmart and Sam's Club (which surprised me a bit, over 400MB between the two apps), Google, Facebook Lite, eBay, and Nova Launcher. Chrome wasn't even over 100MB on my device but I make sure to keep tabs closed (base Chrome is about 70-90MB, each tab is an additional 5-50MB per tab)
Weird. 600mb is plenty but it still can't hold 4 apps in memory.
DarthMaul14 said:
Weird. 600mb is plenty but it still can't hold 4 apps in memory.
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Hi,
I repeat, 2GB of RAM in the Moto G5+ it's a joke from Lenovo. The minimum is the 3GB variant (for example, this is the model for Europe) and the best is the 4GB variant (for USA). Be far from the 2GB version!
manos78 said:
Hi,
I repeat, 2GB of RAM in the Moto G5+ it's a joke from Lenovo. The minimum is the 3GB variant (for example, this is the model for Europe) and the best is the 4GB variant (for USA). Be far from the 2GB version!
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Yes I agree. Major regrets getting the 2gb variant. Why do they have the 3gb variant for the European variant but only 2gb for the US variant and why does the European variant get NFC while the US variant doesn't? This puzzles me.
DarthMaul14 said:
Yes I agree. Major regrets getting the 2gb variant. Why do they have the 3gb variant for the European variant but only 2gb for the US variant and why does the European variant get NFC while the US variant doesn't? This puzzles me.
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The US version has a compass, the European version does not. Odd trade off...
True. Weird they did that. Also why doesn't it have USB c.
How can I make sure that my multi tasking is as efficient as possible on my 2gb variant .
DarthMaul14 said:
How can I make sure that my multi tasking is as efficient as possible on my 2gb variant .
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Are you stock and/or using stock kernel? Trust... There is nothing you can do to change it's behavior.
If on custom ROM or kernel, same answer unless you want to go poking in the advanced kernel settings... And it all depends on your usage, what is perfect for one might cause tons of issues for someone else. This is out of my realm of knowledge.
I'm on the stock rom and kernel. I have TWRP installed but I had no luck rooting (I tried flashing TWRP and magisk). I also noticed something funky about the ram management. If you have multiple apps in memory and you are switching back and forth, most phones would kill the app(s) they can't hold but hold the apps in memory that they can but, on the 2gb variant of the g5 plus it kills the app which it can't hold and all the apps before that opened app. Also if you launch a game and you have multiple apps in the background and you open one more app and switch back to the game it should keep the game and maybe a few apps or no other app but instead it kills all the apps. Is there any way to change this behavior.