Hello again, I need clarification with this subject...
I had a difficult time in rooting my android, thinking I failed. so for many times I rooted, installed xrecovery, then most importantly apps2sd. but I don't think it works, then I found all about Links2sd. I installed it, and each time after installing I always select the "link2sd" option, and I check the include davlik cache, but my phone memory is continually decreasing... is this normal or not? could there be a conflict with apps2sd and link2sd since I don't know if I have deleted apps2sd. sorry I'm an android newbie. Thanks..
Well... if you had app2sd link2sd would monit about it and asked you to uninstall it first.
If you don't know if your phone is rooted, look through apps - if you have a superuser app - you're rooted
As for link2sd working or not: connect your phone to the computer and open minitool partition wizard home. It will see your ext2 partition along with free and occupied space. If there are any apps on ext2 partition of your SD card - apps are installing there and the slight decrease of space is due to the existing shortcut files. Because you have created ext2 partition, haven't you?...
I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?
link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic
nowonanx8 said:
I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?
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Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
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link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic
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Thank you, that was sooooo relevant!
APP2SD
I having problem with the app2sd too..i dunno whether it works...This is what i had done..I had busybox, superuser, and xrecovery installed and rooted. But when come to partitioning the sd card, i partitioned it into 3 parts : FAt, ext2 and ext3...after that i installed the update.zip and custom zip of app2sd...the phone starts not recognizing the sd partition...anyone can help here??
I use titanium backup to see app2sd works or not. if a2sd decrease, so it work.
if internal still decrease, I guess some file or even some app just can't work with app2sd.
one question too, how or can I move games data from fat sdcard to ext2 partition? like gameloft data. I need my fat space for other file
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Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
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I tried navigating to the ext2 partition using minitool partition wizard, and I indeed saw files that I have installed there. so do you mean that apps2sd is better than links2sd? thanks..
Well... I'm not saying anything is better, though I used both solutions in three different ways.
For stock SE ROM link2sd is better, since you only need to partition SD card into primary fat32 and primary ext2 - nothing more. Then you install an app and all works fine.
With custom ROM you cannot use link2sd, since they all have app2sd hack preinstalled (well, you can always modify files, but what for?). Problem occurs when you have this hack AND ext2 partition. The hack then moves automatically all your apps to ext2 memory along with dalvik cache if you install them in internal storage. If you install in external storage, the app goes to fat32 secure folder and dalvik cache remains in ext2. If you don't have any ext on custom ROM, dalvik cache is always in internal storage, while you can move any non-system app onto fat32 sd card.
The ext2 solution in custom ROMs may seem convinient, but for me it was not. When you use apps like phone locator, they should always dwell in internal memory, since SD card can be easily taken out, while deleting such an app from a remotely locked down phone would require flashing, otherwise the device is useless for the thief
Well actually both app2sd and link2sd are typically similliar. I've tried app2sd before and it still leave some files in internal memory. So will link2sd. But link2sd is much more easier to use because once your phone is rooted you just need to install it on your phone without going through the adb shell thing. Easy for newbie for sure. But you just have to manually link new installed applications and games. That's what differ link2sd with app2sd. Now I'm using link2sd. If you want to make sure, why don't you try those froyo phone. Try to use the app2sd stuff on those phone. They still install some applications on their internal as well although they have built in app2sd.
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*EDIT* seems I fixed it
Hello,
I bought myself a new SD card and want to make a partition to install my apps on, rather than in the phone's real internal memory. Sorry for the long story, kindof explaining what I have already tried Hope you'll read it.
So I selected "partition SD card" in clockworkmod recovery, chose 512 MB and 0 MB swap. Afterwards I followed the steps as said by erwinP here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015532&page=164 I flashed the script (beta 3 version) and put my backup of my SD card back through the mounting option in CWM. I also installed A2SD GUI app for this script.
I first installed a busybox installer, but I got errors when installing. However I have come to read that cyanogenmod already includes busybox so this is not a problem I assume.
When I thus rebooted my phone it booted in the ADW launcher, and only the apps I had (partially) on SD already were shown. When opening the A2SDGUI app, I toggled "apps are on SD!" assuming I could put them all in the new internal memory, however it does nothing, only say "caution: your kernel must support the filesystem!"
So I thought perhaps my kernel is outdated (I was running CM 7.0.2) so I flashed nightly #177 (as I was going to do it anyway, and it has a new kernel). After that I rebooted back in my launcherpro and had all my apps back (even though the ones on SD look a bit odd in the settings), but the A2SD GUI app wouldn't open because I had no script, so I flashed that again. But now it STILL gives the same caution without doing anything else.
In CM settings I have allowed installation at an external place and said to install in internal memory next time. But it still says "internal memory 175 mb, used xxx mb", shouldn't I see internal memory 512 mb?
I hope anybody has experience with this, using CM7 and can help me with this
Cheers!
The internal memory space that u see in settings is the phone /data partition, and it will not include the ext3 partition of sdcard.
And if u face issues with A2SDGUI app, then uninstall and reinstall it. Still issues use the terminal emulator commands. A2SDGUI will be the graphical interface of terminal emulator commands AFAIK.
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reinstalling actually fixed the "info" tab, showing how much MB is free on each partition etc, which did not work before either. However the moving still gives the same caution... odd
Perhaps I'll try the terminal commands
*edit* using a few terminal commands, I still get a LOT of errors. Tons of lines so here a few examples:
cp: can't create '/DATA:dta2sd.lg2"': File exists
rm: can't remove '/data/dta2sd.lg1': permission denied
[!] no block device /dev/block/mmcblk4
and when trying to convert to ext3 partition type, I get an error "[X] kernel does not support EXT3 partition. cannot continue". Very strange that a new CM7 mod would not support EXT3?
If anybody would have a clue, that would be great
I don't think you need to toggle "apps are on SD" I think after running the script apps are automatically sent to your ext partition.
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I was wondering the same, since there IS memory being used from the EXT partition. Still I wonder why the internal memory is still 106 MB being used, I would think more would be available after using the EXT partition...
Just to be clear, when I (in the settings - apps) move an app "from SD card to phone", it moves it to the EXT partition right? And when moving to SD it just moves it from the EXT partition to the SD as before?
Not too sure mate, I don't use it now thanks to 3xeno's thread for custom mtd partition, I don't really use that many apps anymore just Facebook, xda, Google+ and a few customization tools so don't need an extra partition now.
If you want to free up some memory take a look at custom mtd partition, it works better than a2sd as things run more stable when on the internal memory. If you have hundreds of apps though you can use a2sd aswell as an mtd partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
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Same problem,but a little change in conditions, actually I am thinking to start a new topic to get some help, bro u r first!
So in my case it is a change from cm7.0.3 to #177cm7, as I used app2sd script by darktemor in the stable release, with 512 MB a2sd partition, filled with 50+app, every thing can be moved to SD,but never my a2sd partition showed any memory usage, it is as of its birth size!, dont know where all app stored, but still all worked,.
Now attracted by #177cm7, I switched to it after taking a titanium backup, then I installed titanium backup to restore app, alas my a2sd partition is gone!, also I can't use a2sd script, it gives frequent reboots, but. Now I am thinking of repartition my card, till then I am using the built in cm7 feature to move apk to card, if any one got some clues, help us
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Hello wolfway
As already said: when looking to the internal memory space, you won't see any changes.. I know that I said that in my previous posts, so sorry about that.
And about the selecting the "apps are on SD!": if you do that, you move all the apps that are on your SD-EXT partition to your 'real' internal memory. So don't do that
Perhaps you should try all over again.. Reflash the latest nightly, wipe the dalvik cache and reflash the DTA2SD script. Then go to the market, download A2SDGUI and run it.
I just did that and went to "settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> SD-card" and saw that my latest app was on the sd-card. Apparently flashing a new nightly removed my DTA2SD script (looking at the installer script, it seems logical I think), so apps were installed on my sd-card again with the build-in froyo A2SD.
What I did: I opened the A2SDGUI and went to the tab "system info". I wrote down how much of the internal memory and how much of the SD-EXT I had left (51 mb and 363 mb respectively). Then I went back to "settings -> applications ->..." and moved that one app that was located on my sd-card, to my internal memory. I then went back to A2SDGUI and looked up how much mb free I had. I then noticed that my SD-EXT dropped from 363mb to 361mb, which means that the DTA2SD script worked
Next I went to "settings -> CyanogenMod settings -> Application settings -> install location" and I selected "internal". My guess is that all new apps now will be installed on the internal memory or the ext-memory.
Really sorry again to have caused confusion!
Erwin
Erwin your last post made me confused!
So what exactly do i need to do? Never choose install location to external in 'application management'( taking about cm7 #177 build, not any other rom)? Or can i do it?, as my need is to keep internal memory free, and to put all my bulky collection of apk's to sd-ext.
Another doubts are..
1. Can i use dta2sd in cm7 #177 build? Does it support it?
2. Why do i need to put app to sd-ext, when there is already an option in cm7 to install them on sd?
3. What are the benifits i get if i use ext4 insted of ext3? Does cm7 support it?
4. Is it the android secure folder in which app are installed in sd?(if i have no ext3)
5.and a last one, if i use dta2sd script in cm7#177,(does it work?) And partition my sd to ext-3+fat32+swap partition, then chose install location to internal, will all my apks will be installed on ext3 by default?or should i have 2 move them using a2sd app? And where will the apk stored if i move a system apk to sd after the above conditions?
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Erwin your last post made me confused!
So what exactly do i need to do? Never choose install location to external in 'application management'( taking about cm7 #177 build, not any other rom)? Or can i do it?, as my need is to keep internal memory free, and to put all my bulky collection of apk's to sd-ext.
Another doubts are..
1. Can i use dta2sd in cm7 #177 build? Does it support it?
2. Why do i need to put app to sd-ext, when there is already an option in cm7 to install them on sd?
3. What are the benifits i get if i use ext4 insted of ext3? Does cm7 support it?
4. Is it the android secure folder in which app are installed in sd?(if i have no ext3)
5.and a last one, if i use dta2sd script in cm7#177,(does it work?) And partition my sd to ext-3+fat32+swap partition, then chose install location to internal, will all my apks will be installed on ext3 by default?or should i have 2 move them using a2sd app? And where will the apk stored if i move a system apk to sd after the above conditions?
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I'm sorry, I don't have enough time to answer all of your questions, but:
- I don't think it is possible to choose which apps you want to store on sd-ext, and which on internal memory
- I'm working on the CM7 nightly 176, which is the same as the 177. And it works for me.
- the build-in apps2sd can't move the hole app to your sd-card, but only a portion. It is then stored in the android.secure folder. Dta2sd moves the app completely to your sdcard, but you can't access it with a file explorer or something similar: it is an other partition. So you don't have to move your app to your sdcard: the dta2sd does all the magic for you!
For more information, go to the link where you've downloaded the script, you can find some very usefull information there!
Hopefully that helps
Erwin
Thankz for ur quick reply,i will check out the link
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cheers for the reply. Actually what you say is what I actually already have so that would mean that it did work (as I did flash the script again after my CM nightly). However the internal memory still shows only 53 mb left, but I guess that is normal then?
Can you go to a2sdgui and take a screenshot of your memory settings like this
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
53mb doesn't sound right to me, and dta2sd script shouldn't be using up all the space on your SD card, use root explorer to hunt down whichever file is taking up all the space on your card.
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hey,
the SD card is from another thing I think (made another thread about it, but still might be a nightly or this script problem)
screenshot in thumb (notice also my RAM is EXTREMELY low, I used to have 180 with my stable CM7, another problem I have to figure out I guess)
Something isn't setup right there for sure.
have you thought about reflashing and starting again or have you tried that already?
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hey,
the SD card is from another thing I think (made another thread about it, but still might be a nightly or this script problem)
screenshot in thumb (notice also my RAM is EXTREMELY low, I used to have 180 with my stable CM7, another problem I have to figure out I guess)
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Hello!
Just back from a very fine vacation, so sorry for the delay in answer. I checked my real internal memory using a2sdgui, and I have only 49mb free memory left. So it seems that the low "real" internal memory is normal.
I think it has to do with the moment you flash the script. Just untill that moment you stuff up your "real" internal memory, it is only after installing the script you can use the extra amount of storage. Dta2sd doesn't move apps to sd-ext that are already installed, so your "real" internal memory stays as it is. But when you install apps after flashing the script, they will be installed on your sd-ext. You can easelly check this by installing apps and checking a2sdgui after every installation.
Btw, this is just a hypotisis
Erwin
May be this will help you
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267099
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ErwinP said:
Hello!
Just back from a very fine vacation, so sorry for the delay in answer. I checked my real internal memory using a2sdgui, and I have only 49mb free memory left. So it seems that the low "real" internal memory is normal.
I think it has to do with the moment you flash the script. Just untill that moment you stuff up your "real" internal memory, it is only after installing the script you can use the extra amount of storage. Dta2sd doesn't move apps to sd-ext that are already installed, so your "real" internal memory stays as it is. But when you install apps after flashing the script, they will be installed on your sd-ext. You can easelly check this by installing apps and checking a2sdgui after every installation.
Btw, this is just a hypotisis
Erwin
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So if apps already installed don't move to the ext partition, I wonder what happened in my case?
I did a fresh install of cm7 177 and deleted my partition first and just used the custom mtd partition instead of a2sd, a couple of days ago I backed up my SD, re-partitioned and reinstalled a2sd beta3, used terminal to send data to SD activate zipalign and up my dalvik heapsize. As you can see from my screenshot above I have way more than 50mb internal memory,alright a lot of that comes from the mtd partition, but what I'm trying to say is all my apps where installed weeks before I added a2sd and they moved to sd-ext when running the script.
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first of all thanks a lot everybody for the answers. Just got back from a long holiday so I can play around with my wildfire again And it works now.
So I deleted a2sdgui and installed S2E. I then checked to move applications to the ext partition and rebooted. So now everything is on the EXT partition. Then I went to the settings -> applications and went to the "on SD" tab. Some were still on SD, when unchecking those boxes (thus moving from SD to "internal memory"), I could see less memory used and more on the EXT partition, whilst no (or barely) any change in the data section, good !
However my data section used was still about 75%. However I've noticed that I have a dalvik cache of 74 MB which is the reason why... I deleted it hoping to reboot with a smaller dalvik cache but that did not work, so I moved the dalvik cache too using S2E. I had a LONG boot time, and for some reason all my google settings had to be set again and all google data synched again, but now my data used is only about 25% (from app data, which for some reason can't be moved with S2E for me).
So it was working good the whole time I think, I was just mislead by the huge amount of dalvik cache using up my data section.
One more question, is S2E a totally different thing than darktremor? Does it need the darktremor script installed to work? Or is it a standalone app, and can you just install the app without the script (thus if you would flash a new ROM, you would not have to reflash the script).
I hope the moving of the dalvik cache won't make my phone too much slower but I guess that's one thing I'll have to find out
Thanks again
wolfway said:
One more question, is S2E a totally different thing than darktremor? Does it need the darktremor script installed to work? Or is it a standalone app, and can you just install the app without the script (thus if you would flash a new ROM, you would not have to reflash the script).
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could anybody answer this question for sure? cheers
also, if I restore a nandroid backup, will my partition be gone or will everything be restored correctly over both partitions?
Hi guys
This motorola flipout mb511 is my first android phone , as a new user I am just getting to know the terminology.
Can some one please guide me through the steps on how to root my phone so I can move my apps to an sd card.
My firmware is version 2.1 , I have been reading the forums to see how to update this but I havent seen anywhere that it can be done yet .
as a new user please feel free with any recommendations you may have.
greatly appricated
Rooting is really a must, currently there is no official or unnoficial update for the flipout. I belive i rooted with super one click method (google it) but I did it so long ago i can only be 90% sure. As to installing non market apps (which you will most likely need to do for rooting) the easy way is to install the" sideload enabler" from motorola on the market and enable unknown sources, the hard way is using android debug bridge from your computer. Once you get it rooted i would parition the sd card and use link2sd to adress the low internal storage on the flipout. After that there are tons of great tweaks to do with root like blocking ads, overclocking, and changing transition or boot animations good luck.
If you have any problems iKd be happy to help out
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Thanks for your reply
I used "super one click method " and rooted the phone.
I installed link2sd.
How do i partition the sd card and transfer apps etc
I formated my micro sd card into two partitions , both fat32
when i try to move some apps to the sd card i am getting any error message
" Mount script error
mount:no such device
ext 3 may not be supported on your device . Try Fat32 on the second partition"
Are you sure that you made both fat32 partitions primary? I think could be it
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I rooted my phone and I partitioned my sd card into 2 partitions , both FAT32 primary 3.7GB and when i open link2sd and select either ext 2 or ext 3 I get an error message
"Mount scrip error
Mount scripe cannot be created.
mount: no such device
ext 2 may not be supported on your device. Try FAt32 on the second partition"
Has anyone come accross this problem before ?
when I ran app2sd i scrolled down and selected fat32 so its working perfectly now .
Thanks for all your help
This is the best HD2 ROM I've ever tested but only missing 1 thing... space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022108
The Amazing Qaliza incredible S V2.... It have all the requirments for day to day use as speed, stable and even looks gr8
Is there any way I can increase the internal space as I get only 81 MB after install wich is not enough for my day to day used apps....
Any help would be thankfull
Use an ext partition, as per post 1.
1st of all thx for the reply
In fact that's what I've did.. but the thing is in post 1 it's mentioned for the V4 ROM which is Data2sd while this ROM is built on app2sd.. and this is the problem...
So any Ideas????
Ap2sd and data2sd both use the same ext.
also, you are aware that the system wont include the ext value when you view available storage, right? But it will use it as internal storage.
So say you have 80mb free plus a 1gb ext partition, your available storage shows as 80mb, but really its 1104mb.
Third party apps like titanium WILL include the ext value.
the thing is that it's included and this is 4 sure... but I really can't install any new apps as it says you are running out of storage... and this is the problem.
In titanium backup I have the storage reading like this :
System ROM:325 MB (3.28 MB Free)
Internal :95.6 MB(12.1 MB Free) - and this is the problem
SD card: :2.90 GB(148 MB Free)
SD card a2sd:1.00 GB (808 MB Free) which I can't do any thing with them
So this is the problem in easy way.... Any help, Plzzzzzzzzzzz
I've tested alot and alot of ROM's but I think this is the most stable, smooth, fast and even all features working in excellent Condition such as camcorder, vedio playing and all the stuff you need in day to day.
So if you could suggest another ROM that functions as good as this one it would be gr8 to have it but the thing is that it should support Arabic language as well.
Sorry for the long reply but just wanted to clear my point of view and my request
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SD card a2sd:1.00 GB (808 MB Free) which I can't do any thing with them
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Most of your apps downloaded from market will be installed there. So...what did you mean with "which I can't do any thing with them"?
as post above, and also, could it be that the 200mb used in your sd-ext partition is left over from an old rom?
To wipe the sd-ext, go into cwm and run a wipe data/factory reset (but this will of course reset the rom and wipe the phones data, so do a backup first)
Also, i think there are some terminal commands to restart/activate app2sd (or data2sd, ) perhaps they would help?
For me, the one time months ago that i had issues with teh sd-ext partition seemingly not being used, i just took a backup, repartitioned the sd card, reflashed the rom (since i suspect that app2sd is initialised during first boot) and it worked.
icke said:
Most of your apps downloaded from market will be installed there. So...what did you mean with "which I can't do any thing with them"?
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samsamuel said:
as post above, and also, could it be that the 200mb used in your sd-ext partition is left over from an old rom?
To wipe the sd-ext, go into cwm and run a wipe data/factory reset (but this will of course reset the rom and wipe the phones data, so do a backup first)
Also, i think there are some terminal commands to restart/activate app2sd (or data2sd, ) perhaps they would help?
For me, the one time months ago that i had issues with teh sd-ext partition seemingly not being used, i just took a backup, repartitioned the sd card, reflashed the rom (since i suspect that app2sd is initialised during first boot) and it worked.
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That's what I'm talking about... That I've done task29 wipedata/factory reset b4 starting to install the ROM and when 1st start it the sd-ext is almost free then while installing the apps some go there and alot doesn't !!!!
for example now I have about 11MB free on the internal storage and 808 MB Free on the sd-ext, If I tried to install an app that is 14 MB I wouldn't be able to do so
For your knowledge, I've tried to install alot of rom's and they worked perfect, tried to contact Qaliza but I think he is busy now repling for my Issue, wiped my phone till I felt it wouldn't remember that he is a cell phone any more reinstalled the rom many times and always have the same Issue with the low disk space.... I think I'm in need of a patch or something like this.
Now I have a Q:
If I used this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20776525&postcount=2733 will it help or will it corrupt my ROM only??
sorry if my Q looks stupid but I'm really looking for any thing that could help