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Videos on the Elocity A7?

As I don't see much of a discussion on this....
I got the A7 not only for its power ( which it does everything 3d wise crazy good ) but also for its video/hdmi...thing is I can not seem to get videos working nicely with this unit.
Ive tried 480p and 720p videos in both mp4, mkv and avi containers at varying encodings ( xvid, h246, ect ) and all of which either "chop" or just are waaay too slow to be considered playable.
I've tried Vplayer, arcMedia, Rockbaseplayer, imbedded player.... running out of things to try to get videos nicely working on this thing...
Sad...as it has a nice HDMI port...
Anyone tried to get videos working on this and if so have you gotten better results?
Thanks

yes MP4, AVI & MKV does work but the h264 codec that's used for the video must be in baseline or main profile level. It does not support High profile. I realized this when my own encodings did not work.
n some ways this is sort of silly as High profile would give you the best encoding option for 1080p/720p videos
What's siller is that the A7 does read NTFS (as far as I can tell) so having a full lenght 720p or 1080p is really sort of tough with a 4GB limit. To get good qaulity for a 2 hour 1080p movie you are definitely going to go over the 4GB limit

rolexconfuse said:
yes MP4, AVI & MKV does work but the h264 codec that's used for the video must be in baseline or main profile level. It does not support High profile. I realized this when my own encodings did not work.
n some ways this is sort of silly as High profile would give you the best encoding option for 1080p/720p videos
What's siller is that the A7 does read NTFS (as far as I can tell) so having a full lenght 720p or 1080p is really sort of tough with a 4GB limit. To get good qaulity for a 2 hour 1080p movie you are definitely going to go over the 4GB limit
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Any way you can do a quick sample of a video? of both 720p and 1080p?
I'm curious as I may return it if I don't get the quality I'm looking for over hdmi...
Thanks for the quick response and much is appreciated.
Cheers

I just got my A7 and I've been playing with the video a little.
I used Nero Recode to encode to the target of 720 Main Profile (3.1 CABAC 2 Ref Frames) AAC LC 192mbps. It actually worked! I'm not saying it was great, but I don't know of any mobile device that supports CABAC @ 720p (It crushes older PCs and that tablet that starts with an "i"). I may turn it off and try again.
I agree that 1080p is going to be hard if not impossible to wedge into 4GB. I would question why you would even try it. 720p looks really good unless you plan on projecting it.
Anyway, I plan on playing with MP4 and probably WMV. I was really suprised that I couldn't get either a .ts or .m2ts file to play. These are generally easier to decode because the container is less complex than .mkv or .mp4. I may try the PS3 trick and rename it to .mpg to see if it plays.
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Just played a 720p (1280 x 528) WMV (VC1/WMA Pro) flawlessly. I'll cook up a 1080p one today. VC1 doesn't do as well at low bitrates as H264, but it's easier to decode.
A couple issues I noticed:
1. Connecting the HDMI Port sometimes kills the touch screen. Putting the unit into standby seems to recover
2. The volume affects the sound level on HDMI, so make sure it's cranked (weird)
3. I could only get 2 channel out from WMA Pro 5.1. I'll have to try something with AC3/AAC. I'm guess it will have the same issues.
4. I couldn't get audio on my old TV (It is kind of a POS). Audio worked via my receiver.

dburckh said:
I just got my A7 and I've been playing with the video a little.
I used Nero Recode to encode to the target of 720 Main Profile (3.1 CABAC 2 Ref Frames) AAC LC 192mbps. It actually worked! I'm not saying it was great, but I don't know of any mobile device that supports CABAC @ 720p (It crushes older PCs and that tablet that starts with an "i"). I may turn it off and try again.
I agree that 1080p is going to be hard if not impossible to wedge into 4GB. I would question why you would even try it. 720p looks really good unless you plan on projecting it.
Anyway, I plan on playing with MP4 and probably WMV. I was really suprised that I couldn't get either a .ts or .m2ts file to play. These are generally easier to decode because the container is less complex than .mkv or .mp4. I may try the PS3 trick and rename it to .mpg to see if it plays.
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Just played a 720p (1280 x 528) WMV (VC1/WMA Pro) flawlessly. I'll cook up a 1080p one today. VC1 doesn't do as well at low bitrates as H264, but it's easier to decode.
A couple issues I noticed:
1. Connecting the HDMI Port sometimes kills the touch screen. Putting the unit into standby seems to recover
2. The volume affects the sound level on HDMI, so make sure it's cranked (weird)
3. I could only get 2 channel out from WMA Pro 5.1. I'll have to try something with AC3/AAC. I'm guess it will have the same issues.
4. I couldn't get audio on my old TV (It is kind of a POS). Audio worked via my receiver.
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With main profile you should be able to go up higher than 3.1. As for encoding 1080p well, if I or my friends have a 1080P TV why not? (lol). 720p is fine but since it does do 1080p why not use it. I have to say 4 GB could be tight for a long movie even at 720p, imagine doing LOTR at 720p? Honestly it's probaly going to be great for TV shows or really short movies. As for why I would want 720p or 1080p on this thing? It's so I can watch it on my big screen or at my friends big screen. Would be pointless to view it on the built in screen as it's only 800x480

[Q] Video is not showing up on my 1080i LG LCD TV.

Sorry that here might be a wrong area to post this thread, but as a newby, I don't have right to post in another section...
I am using an LG 1080i (max) LCD TV at home and when I connect my newly et OUYA to it , it shows nothing on the screen.
As far as I know, my LG tv supports 720p also, where all others gaming device of mine (Xbox360/PS3) work flawlessly with it.
I learnt from the support area that OUYA should support 1080P & 720P, and it will detect and change the setting automatically upon HDMI connection. I test my OUYA with another 1080p Sony TV and it works just fine, so it's not my OUYA got damaged.
I've tried the 720p mod too. It shows 720p signal on the sony tv but again no luck on the LG tv.
Can any of the professionals here might give me some hints on solving this so that I can start enjoying my OUYA experience?

There's no such thing as a 1080i LCD. Your TV is faking the 1080i output (or just accepting the input). It probably runs at 1360x768 or whatever that weird resolution is. I would assume your TV simply doesn't accept the true 720p signal, but I could be wrong. If you have an XBox 360 or PS3 (or a laptop) you could try connecting them and setting them to 1280x720 and see if it works.

brandogg said:
There's no such thing as a 1080i LCD. Your TV is faking the 1080i output (or just accepting the input). It probably runs at 1360x768 or whatever that weird resolution is. I would assume your TV simply doesn't accept the true 720p signal, but I could be wrong. If you have an XBox 360 or PS3 (or a laptop) you could try connecting them and setting them to 1280x720 and see if it works.
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Type to force it to 1080p and hope your TV can cope. If not try to force it to 720p and see what happens. Most tv's that will do 1080i also will do 720p. I know mine does not report 1080p as an accepted mode because it was made before 1080p was on consumer electronics.
You force it via build.prop or the mod collection thing if you are not comfortable editing the build.prop.

[Q] Can't display 1080p?

Hi Everyone,
I just got a Nexus Player and connect to my TV.
Everything is good except the resolution stays on 720P.
My TV does support 1080P, since all other devices use 1080P resolution.
And Nexus Player should also support 1080P.
Does any one know if there is a way to manually setup the resolution on Nexus Player?
Thanks a lot.

skyshocker said:
Hi Everyone,
I just got a Nexus Player and connect to my TV.
Everything is good except the resolution stays on 720P.
My TV does support 1080P, since all other devices use 1080P resolution.
And Nexus Player should also support 1080P.
Does any one know if there is a way to manually setup the resolution on Nexus Player?
Thanks a lot.
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The TV screen resolution will still stay at 720p, but the Nexus TV screen resolution should be 1080p ! Their is a way to verify this via the app Screen Specs found at the Google Play Store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.MTMDevelopers.ScreenSpecs ! If you cannot get this app let me know. Another way to verify this is via the AnTuTu BenchMark app!

AndroidTVTech1 said:
The TV screen resolution will still stay at 720p, but the Nexus TV screen resolution should be 1080p ! Their is a way to verify this via the app Screen Specs found at the Google Play Store ! If you cannot get this app let me know. Another way to verify this is via the AnTuTu BenchMark app!
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Hi, Thanks a lot for your reply.
However, if the TV screen shows the signal is 720p, that means nexus player sends 720 picture to the TV via HDMI, as a result, you will see a 720 picture, which I expect to see a 1080P picture.
I have no idea why these app shows 1080p in the system, but as long as it doesn't send 1080p to the TV via HDMI, we can't get 1080 quality, right?
If the TV is 1080, but received a 720 signal, that means it is not pixel to pixel picture, the picture is not clear.
Is there a way to force the player to send 1080P signal via HDMI? Will Root support this?
Thanks a lot.

skyshocker said:
Hi, Thanks a lot for your reply.
However, if the TV screen shows the signal is 720p, that means nexus player sends 720 picture to the TV via HDMI, as a result, you will see a 720 picture, which I expect to see a 1080P picture.
I have no idea why these app shows 1080p in the system, but as long as it doesn't send 1080p to the TV via HDMI, we can't get 1080 quality, right?
If the TV is 1080, but received a 720 signal, that means it is not pixel to pixel picture, the picture is not clear.
Is there a way to force the player to send 1080P signal via HDMI? Will Root support this?
Thanks a lot.
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Everything you are saying is correct, but the Nexus TV Player will not override the built in 720p TV Screen resolution ... Yes, the Nexus TV Player is sending a 1080p signal to your 720p TV, the 1080p signal is being down graded to 720p ... In order for you to get full 1080p screen resolution from your Nexus TV Player, your TV will have to support 1080p screen resolution.
Now if your TV supports 1080i/1080p and you have a cable service, their is a way to go into the cable box to change the screen resolution. Any other way, it would have to be changed via the TV settings.

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Everything you are saying is correct, but the Nexus TV Player will not override the built in 720p TV Screen resolution ... Yes, the Nexus TV Player is sending a 1080p signal to your 720p TV, the 1080p signal is being down graded to 720p ... In order for you to get full 1080p screen resolution from your Nexus TV Player, your TV will have to support 1080p screen resolution.
Now if your TV supports 1080i/1080p and you have a cable service, their is a way to go into the cable box to change the screen resolution. Any other way, it would have to be changed via the TV settings.
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Unless I'm mistaken you appear to be misunderstanding the original issue, his TV can support and other inputs work at 1080p with it, but for some reason he suspects that his Nexus is only outputting 720p, at least that is what his TV thinks its getting.
This appears to happen to other people also, without a decent resolution, hoping that M preview 3 will contain something positive.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/7A-snuOEYis

I get the same issues. I purchased two Nexus players today, primarily for running Kodi.
The first of these is connected via a Home Theatre receiver to a 1080p TV and is displaying the Nexus Player content at 1080p.
I have a second home Theatre Receiver connected to a 1080p projector and is using the following resolutions:
[li]720p : Nexus Player running Android 5.1.1
[li]1080p : Apple TV 3
[li]1080p : Sony Bluray Player
I also tried swapping the inputs to the Home Theatre receiver to see if the output resolution changes from the Nexus Player. The Nexus Player is refusing to show the content at 1080p. There is also no way to force the output resolution. It certainly makes the viewing experience terrible for HD content on the Play store or via Kodi.
The Nexus Player and Android TV really needs work to improve settings available for manually configuring the output resolution.

Hi Guys - I'm also stuck at 720p output from my nexus player. Have there been any developments on unlocking 1080p?

Does anybody know if there is a fix to this? I just bought a nexus player and it is outputting 720p to my TV. I've searched at various websites and I couldn't find any solutions to this. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!!

I'm having the opposite issue.. hooked up to a cheap 720p TV and it outputs 1080, which the TV fails to convert properly, so I loose an inch or so of viewable screen on many apps (launcher seems OK?)
..found some posts that suggest "overscan calibrator" can fix this problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3234854&d=1427641822
..It worked for my particular issue.

if someone cant answer this problem. I'm taken it back because the picture is horrible

same issue here ... running N preview
tried many hdmi cables

I can't even SEE a picture, because I cannot reset resolution from 1080 to 720 . And the many many many responses on xda have been deafening on this issue.
Is there ANY way to manually set resolution??????
Does any alternative ROM do this? Does the new developer preview? Can it be done with any 3rd party apps like overscan calibrator? Any sort of editor?

Massive video stutter

Hi all,
Is anyone else experiencing stutter on their NP no matter where you play videos. Local memory or over network, for me is the same. I tried with 1080p and 720p and both stutter like crazy, upon to an unwatchable point for high bitrate mkvs.
I reflashed 511 via fastboot erasing userdata but no luck, same annoying stutter.
Any idea/suggestion is appreciated.
Thank you

I tried playing MKVs over network with Kodi, but they stutter incredibly bad. I don't think the support for MKV is there, but I could be wrong. Sticking with MP4 for now.

The OP doesn't provide any info about setup or apps tested.
But FWIW, all MKVs that I've tried - 720p, 1080p, inc. 10-bit encodes - have worked flawlessly on Kodi, whether locally or over network (smb or DLNA, WiFi AC/5Ghz).
So you need to isolate your problem to your setup. You could start by enabling the Codec Info OSD in Kodi ('c' key on a keyboard, can be remapped to e.g. remote back button) to see what's happening with your currently playing videos.
You could play with the hardware decoder settings in Kodi's System config to see if toggling any of the options might help. Also try different apps, of course. There are lots of possible variables really ... isolating the problem is the key.

I have not had issues with playing 720p or 1080p H264 / x264 MKV files with Kodi over 5 GHz wireless AC. I usually go through an SMB server to stream the files from another PC on my LAN or the USB drive plugged in to my router. Which video codecs are your files encoded in and how high are the average bitrates of those files?

It would be good to know if OP is using Kodi or a different player..

Hi All, sorry for the delay, I think I managed to track the cause of my stutter. First of all, to answer your question, it is happening with all players, including Kodi.
After some more testing, I came to the conclusion that it is related to the framerate output that is not in sync with my TV refresh rate. I have a Samsung that goes to 60Hz max, and video sources at 24fps stutter/judder like hell. I cannot watch any 24fps movies no matter their format. I tested with 60fps content and all was playing fine.
Really not sure why AndroidTV/Nexus Player does not allow automatic framerate switching, but watching anything at 24fps is basically impossible for me. TVHZ app allows me to go to 50 or 60 Hz, but I read this bug is fixed in M dev preview. Did not tried it yet.
Kodi is supposed to be able to auto switch framerate, at least in one of their build (for Shield if I recall correctly), but even if I have the option enabled in the menu, video playback is still stuck at 60Hz.
Does anyone know if auto framerate switching is going to be added in 6.0 ?
Thank you

Well, there's nothing unusual about playing 24fps sources on a 60Hz TV, and you shouldn't be seeing such severe juddering even with 3:2. This forum would be full of complaints otherwise, since 24fps sources are so common.
Are you able to test with another TV than your Samsung, perhaps? And enable the Codec Info OSD in Kodi to see if that reveals anything. I'd also try toggling the "Sync playback to display" option in System settings. For comparison: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=219796

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Does anyone know if auto framerate switching is going to be added in 6.0 ?
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Yes, that's one of the new features available in Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexusplayer/comments/39td0v/kodi_15_beta_2_supports_auto_refresh_rate/

GabbyWC said:
Yes, that's one of the new features available in Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexusplayer/comments/39td0v/kodi_15_beta_2_supports_auto_refresh_rate/
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What about other players? Kodi made this possible via their internal player, not Android's as far as I know.

@Ladduro, I'm not sure what you mean by Android's "internal" video player or if there even is such a thing on the Nexus Player. If other popular apps like MX Player and VLC support auto frame rate switching in the future, then you'll have more playback options beyond Kodi.

I've been playing plenty of 24fps sources on my 60Hz TV without the pulldown causing an unwatchable judder as decribed by the OP. I still think he's misdiagnosing the problem, but I guess once an idea gets in your head it's hard to shift it.

Maybe you cannot see the judder. I can, and it is bothering me a lot.

Is there no way to activate the "Sync playback to display" option for the NP? A different Kernel maybe?

Ladduro said:
Hi all,
Is anyone else experiencing stutter on their NP no matter where you play videos. Local memory or over network, for me is the same. I tried with 1080p and 720p and both stutter like crazy, upon to an unwatchable point for high bitrate mkvs.
I reflashed 511 via fastboot erasing userdata but no luck, same annoying stutter.
Any idea/suggestion is appreciated.
Thank you
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Mine has always stuttered. I have never found a solution. I watched a google play movie just last weekend and I noticed it. My wife and kids don't notice it but I sure do. I've tried wired and wireless connections and it doesn't make a difference. And I don't have barebone internet speeds. Debating RMAing it since it is from an early batch to see if the newer ones work better.

What is the best a/v receiver for the nvidia shield tv?

Hi there. I have the Nvidia Shield TV Pro and have been having trouble finding the right receiver.
First I purchased a Sony STRDH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver, and found out that it cannot handle 4K upscaling (which the Nvidia Shield TV does according to Sony) Technically it worked, but what would happen is the screen goes black then will show the input on tv. Almost like someone unplugs the HDMI and then reconnects. Best way I have thought of naming this is an HDMI Blink. It happens numerous (10 to 15 times) per day. So according to Sony this receiver was only 4K passthrough capable, which actually didn't even work, I had to connect shield directly to TV and use ARC for sound.
Second, I purchased an Onkyo Thank you-NR636 7.2 Ch -- which is advertised as 4K passthrough and 4K upscale capable. I still have the HDMI blink, but now it is not as often (2-3 times) per day.
The TV I'm using is a Vizio M50-C1 and is 4K HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2.
It has 4 30Hz HDMI ports and 1 60Hz HDMI port.
The only way I can get ULTRA 4K to play from Netflix is to connect it to the 60Hz port.
The other 30Hz ports are labeled 4K, and when connected will play with audio/video but will not broadcast in 4K. I do not understand this, so if anyone could shed some light that would be great. (I've tried every troubleshooting step I could think of) ie. unplugging all cables and plugging them back in sequence. After connection unplugging the power on the Shield TV and re plug. (Same with receiver and TV) I've tried other sources on the receiver and tried every HDMI port/input.
So I'm thinking of returning this Onkyo Receiver and purchasing a better/more expensive one. I would appreciate anyones feedback on their experience with the Nvidia Shield TV and 4K Receiver/TV.
Has anyone been able to get full 60Hz 4K and 720/1080 Upscaling from Receiver to TV to operate without any problems?
Are there any Receivers you could recommend to me that can handle this properly? Thanks for your help.

I cant answer your question directly as I haven't used 4k receivers, but have you considered that the HDMI cable could be faulty?

Unfortunately I already replaced both the HDMI cables with brand new gold plated HDMI 2.0 4K cables.

I might be able to shed some light.
Firstly it doesn't sound like your HDMI cable. There's actually no such thing as a HDMI 2.0 cable. It's the devices that are HDMI 2.0, and will work with any high speed HDMI cable.
Always plug a 4K device into a 60hz HDMI if possible. That way if any of the apps, or even the home screen want to run at 50hz or 60hz you won't experience a problem. Obviously if it's plugged into the 30hz port, the picture will disappear when the device outputs anything above 30hz.
You don't actually want your AVR to upscale your picture. Your 4K TV will do it automatically, and TV's generally do a better job than AVR's.
As for the HDMI blink, I'm not entirely sure (I've not actually plugged my shield into my 4K TV yet) it could be when the system switches resolutions, eg 4K to 1080p. The screen needs a little time to process the new source. My TV does that when my PC is hooked up, and I switch between a 4K desktop environment and a 1080p game.
If it's any help my AVR has no problem with any 4K material I've thrown at it. I use a Pioneer VSX 930.

The Shield TV, like all modern Nvidia devices, has a built in upscaler. No need for an external one and in fact, extra processing is likely to degrade gaming experience.
Using ARC is actually a good solution although that has the disadvantage of requiring the TV to be on just to listen to music.

martyn3000 said:
I might be able to shed some light.
Firstly it doesn't sound like your HDMI cable. There's actually no such thing as a HDMI 2.0 cable. It's the devices that are HDMI 2.0, and will work with any high speed HDMI cable.
Always plug a 4K device into a 60hz HDMI if possible. That way if any of the apps, or even the home screen want to run at 50hz or 60hz you won't experience a problem. Obviously if it's plugged into the 30hz port, the picture will disappear when the device outputs anything above 30hz.
You don't actually want your AVR to upscale your picture. Your 4K TV will do it automatically, and TV's generally do a better job than AVR's.
As for the HDMI blink, I'm not entirely sure (I've not actually plugged my shield into my 4K TV yet) it could be when the system switches resolutions, eg 4K to 1080p. The screen needs a little time to process the new source. My TV does that when my PC is hooked up, and I switch between a 4K desktop environment and a 1080p game.
If it's any help my AVR has no problem with any 4K material I've thrown at it. I use a Pioneer VSX 930.
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Thank you for the information. It's actually really helpful. Those were all things I was wondering but not sure. Another question for you; I primarily use the shield remote and not the controller. If I have the shield connected to the receiver with pass through, and I try to adjust the volume with the shield remote it does not work. It says this app is set for surround sound please use the tv remote to adjust the volume. Is this normal? On my previous receiver that didn't happen. I could adjust the volume with the shield remote. Any thoughts?

NiHaoMike said:
The Shield TV, like all modern Nvidia devices, has a built in upscaler. No need for an external one and in fact, extra processing is likely to degrade gaming experience.
Using ARC is actually a good solution although that has the disadvantage of requiring the TV to be on just to listen to music.
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The arc solution does work. I get 4K video etc. but it still has the HDMI blink when playing non 4K content. The only solution so far I have found us to use the 30hz input on the TV, which eliminates the HDMI blink. Then when I way to watch 4K content, switch it back to the 60hz port.
I haven't tried changing the Nvidia HDMI settings to use the (less than 60hz) option. I think it's 27hz or something like that.

Does the TV work fine with another 4K source like a PC? You might also want to try a shorter and/or different brand of HDMI cable.

I have t tried another source. I'm not even sure my PC does 4K. Would I need a 4K graphics card? I will definitive try a different cable. I had previously used a gold plated cable that was a few years old, and that's when I noticed the HDMI blink. So I purchased two new ones from Amazon. I'm pretty sure they are the right ones, but would like to reassure if anyone knows.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQ9OQU2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

those should work, but if you are looking for a great AV receiver to use with this, I just bought a yamaha 2050, and everything works great!
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-A2050-9-2-Channel-MusicCast-Bluetooth/dp/B00YMN6E7O

mikie00mike said:
Thank you for the information. It's actually really helpful. Those were all things I was wondering but not sure. Another question for you; I primarily use the shield remote and not the controller. If I have the shield connected to the receiver with pass through, and I try to adjust the volume with the shield remote it does not work. It says this app is set for surround sound please use the tv remote to adjust the volume. Is this normal? On my previous receiver that didn't happen. I could adjust the volume with the shield remote. Any thoughts?
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HDMI control is a fickle beast. I find it works with some devices and not others. It could just be the combination of Shield and AVR you currently have.
I wouldn't be changing your AVR primarily on it's ability to function with your Shield though.

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I have t tried another source. I'm not even sure my PC does 4K. Would I need a 4K graphics card? I will definitive try a different cable. I had previously used a gold plated cable that was a few years old, and that's when I noticed the HDMI blink. So I purchased two new ones from Amazon. I'm pretty sure they are the right ones, but would like to reassure if anyone knows.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQ9OQU2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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If you have a 650 or above GPU (Kepler), it supports 4K output.

I have just overcome some 4k UHD issues with my Shield TV which are similar to the ones you described.
The main problem is HDCP 2.2....
This is what I found out.
Some time last year the HDCP standards were changed to require any 4K 60hz display to only accept a 4K 60hz UHD signal if it was wrapped in HDCP 2.2. Put simply - this means if any device in the connectivity chain is not HDCP 2.2 compatable you will not get a 4K 60hz UHD picture on your display.
For me this was a problem because my HDMI 4K UHD switch was not HDCP 2.2, and my LG 55EG960v refused the non-hdcp2.2 signal, so the shield TV would auto re-connect @ 1080p beacuse the connectivity chain was incompatible....
4K UHD Netflix requires HDCP 2.2, which is why it will only connect/work on the single HDMI input on your TV rated for 4k 60hz hdcp2.2...
The only way to guarantee a working 4K 60hz UHD signal is to ensure all your equipment is HDCP2.2 certified, or do some clever duplex routing.
Unitl this year HDCP2.2 equipment at reasonable prices was very scarce, but LIGAWO is a german manufactuer who seems to have just released a whole range of HDCP2.2 routers/switches/splitters etc (at reasonable consumer level prices).... I am sure there will be many more suppliers soon.
The rule of thumb I would use is - Unless the specification clearly states the device/equipment is HDCP2.2 compatable - don't go near it.....
I really, really hate DRM....
PS: It sounds like may not need to replace your expensive AV reciever, and what you want to achieve could be done through duplex routing. Happy to have a PM discussion if that would help. I currently run 5 consoles, 1 STB, 1Shield TV, 1 PC, and Chromecast audio, all with a Yamaha DSP Soundbar/Reciever (which is only HDMI 1.4 compatable), into 1 TV, and still can get 4k UHD 60hz + 7.1 HD audio.... So it can be done without replacing your AV reciever.

THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
MintyTrebor said:
I have just overcome some 4k UHD issues with my Shield TV which are similar to the ones you described.
The main problem is HDCP 2.2....
This is what I found out.
Some time last year the HDCP standards were changed to require any 4K 60hz display to only accept a 4K 60hz UHD signal if it was wrapped in HDCP 2.2. Put simply - this means if any device in the connectivity chain is not HDCP 2.2 compatable you will not get a 4K 60hz UHD picture on your display.
For me this was a problem because my HDMI 4K UHD switch was not HDCP 2.2, and my LG 55EG960v refused the non-hdcp2.2 signal, so the shield TV would auto re-connect @ 1080p beacuse the connectivity chain was incompatible....
4K UHD Netflix requires HDCP 2.2, which is why it will only connect/work on the single HDMI input on your TV rated for 4k 60hz hdcp2.2...
The only way to guarantee a working 4K 60hz UHD signal is to ensure all your equipment is HDCP2.2 certified, or do some clever duplex routing.
Unitl this year HDCP2.2 equipment at reasonable prices was very scarce, but LIGAWO is a german manufactuer who seems to have just released a whole range of HDCP2.2 routers/switches/splitters etc (at reasonable consumer level prices).... I am sure there will be many more suppliers soon.
The rule of thumb I would use is - Unless the specification clearly states the device/equipment is HDCP2.2 compatable - don't go near it.....
I really, really hate DRM....
PS: It sounds like may not need to replace your expensive AV reciever, and what you want to achieve could be done through duplex routing. Happy to have a PM discussion if that would help. I currently run 5 consoles, 1 STB, 1Shield TV, 1 PC, and Chromecast audio, all with a Yamaha DSP Soundbar/Reciever (which is only HDMI 1.4 compatable), into 1 TV, and still can get 4k UHD 60hz + 7.1 HD audio.... So it can be done without replacing your AV reciever.
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So does this mean 650 or above GPU is for the receiver or media player? When you say 650 does that handle 4K passthrough, as well as full 4K upscaling from 480/720/1080p content?
NiHaoMike said:
If you have a 650 or above GPU (Kepler), it supports 4K output.
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In the PC you're using as a source, to rule out the Shield as the problem. And yes, any Kepler or newer GPU (including the one built into the Shield) will upscale all the way to 4K, although the smaller ones won't be able to handle the most advanced algorithms. But unless you're a hardcore videophile, you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference between how well a high end GPU upscales as opposed to how well a smaller GPU upscales. Not surprising given that image scaling is just one of the most fundamental parts of 3D rendering.

mikie00mike said:
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
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I pm'd you some stuff.

Minty or Mike may I get a copy also please?
Minty I PMd you
Thanks!
mikie00mike said:
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
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thruster999 said:
Minty or Mike may I get a copy also please?
Minty I PMd you
Thanks!
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I have updated my config since I sent the details last, but I still duplex (or send multiple signals of the same HDMI source) to bypass the HDCP restrictions so I can continue to use my older soundbar. Picture with notes attached. Shout if you need anything more.