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Front Camera?

Hello everybody, I was reading about the upcoming Sprint version of the HD2 and it sows that the phone is going to have an 8 megapixel camera in the back and another camera in the front for video calling. Anyways, does the US T-Mobile version have a front camera? I see a whole there where there may be a camera but dont know t for a fact. Please let me know what you guys think.

No front camera.

you know i was thinking the exact same thing,it's right next to the led blinker and i was wondering what its there for. Is there anybody who took this phone apart and explored everything.

n8izzle said:
Hello everybody, I was reading about the upcoming Sprint version of the HD2 and it sows that the phone is going to have an 8 megapixel camera in the back and another camera in the front for video calling. Anyways, does the US T-Mobile version have a front camera? I see a whole there where there may be a camera but dont know t for a fact. Please let me know what you guys think.
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Would be nice....but nope The EVO will have a front-facing camera, but the HD2 has no such provision. The two small dots you may see just to the left of the ear speaker are the proximity and light sensors.
Also, even if the HD2 had the camera, it's not much good if the carrier hasn't enabled support on the network.

jkiller122 said:
you know i was thinking the exact same thing,it's right next to the led blinker and i was wondering what its there for. Is there anybody who took this phone apart and explored everything.
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That's probably the ambient light sensor i'm guessing.

jakobdroid said:
That's probably the ambient light sensor i'm guessing.
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NO THAT'S A CAMERA.............lol just kidding,well it was good to dream about the future but i guess you guys are right,oh well,still love the phone.

jakobdroid said:
That's probably the ambient light sensor i'm guessing.
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I believe it has 2 functions, as you stated ambient light sensor. but if you look closely you'll see 2 holes. I believe the other to be an IR emitter that is used to tell when the phone is up against your face and to turn the screen off during a call. It looks for the reflection of the IR off your skin.

Oh ok good, im not the only person to tihnk it is a camera. loll i thought 1 was a proximity and the other the camera. =) cool to know.

d0ug said:
I believe it has 2 functions, as you stated ambient light sensor. but if you look closely you'll see 2 holes. I believe the other to be an IR emitter that is used to tell when the phone is up against your face and to turn the screen off during a call. It looks for the reflection of the IR off your skin.
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Correct, that's the "proximity sensor"

n8izzle said:
Hello everybody, I was reading about the upcoming Sprint version of the HD2 and it sows that the phone is going to have an 8 megapixel camera in the back and another camera in the front for video calling. Anyways, does the US T-Mobile version have a front camera? I see a whole there where there may be a camera but dont know t for a fact. Please let me know what you guys think.
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Just so you know, that is not a HD2 that sprint is getting... its the Evo 4G. Completely different phone, different os... it just looks similar.

It is a front facing camera!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EcHn5BwESk

MirasHD2 said:
It is a front facing camera!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EcHn5BwESk
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Yup, that's on the EVO, one of the features that sets it apart from the HD2, though they're very similar. Sprint is using that to create more desire for their 4G service (which is pretty much necessary for stable 2-way video streaming at any usable resolution)

Note 4 camera won't lock focus + blurry edges on pictures with far focus

Hi everybody,
I've been using my Note 4 for a week. It's a great phone, great display, great performance and what I was convinced would be a great camera.
Before that I used a S3 (International version I9300) for two years and a S5 (International version G900F) for six months and nothing negative to say about them. They both gave great, clear, beautiful, sharp pictures, especially for a phone (I couldn't imagine it was possible before). I think it's important to say that so I can justify myself and show I'm not making up things...
I started to have doubts after a couple a days concerning the Note 4 camera. I found the pictures not sharp, especially in edges (kind of tilt-shift effect).
And then, yesterday, several XDA topics confirmed my concerns ...
So... To sum up :
Far pictures have blurry edges (I know lenses edges can be blurry, but in this case, when I mean blurry, I mean sometimes 1 third of the pictures... Close pictures and close-ups are great.
When taking pictures in landscape mode, focusing in the bottom third of the screen is just not possible, I can't see the focusing screen in this zone, as it did on the S3 or S5.
Locking focus has never been and is never possible (when trying to focus, I can see the focusing circle but I can't see or hear any green circle or sound confirmation (as it did on the S3 or S5, you can see my youtube video).
To make everything clear again, I (still) own a S3 and S5 with no camera problem, with a normal behaviour and we have two Note 4 at home with the exact same problems.
I have a master in digital photography and, being less picture enthusiastic and having not enough time, I replaced my equipment by these devices, and I was totally ok with that. (= I know I'm not making up things)
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/usfdln0o0odwdf7/20141214_115344.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thxhsawjxjbu05t/20141214_121610.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyxavgcj6qeyf28/20141207_101614.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5Axxp_UMY&feature=youtu.be
I assume the problem here may be part software and part hardware (but again, two Note 4 with same problems ?).
Could a Samsung rep take this problem serioulsy and take it into account for a next update ? (except if it's a hardware problem )
Thanks a lot for your attention !
Chris.

I'm pretty sure your device is faulty. The blur in your images is not normal, I guess the lens is not mounted correctly. This may also be the reason for your focusing problems.
Have a look at the photo thread, you'll see plenty of images without blur.

I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.

adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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im having the same problem with just focus on one part of the screen. other apps focuses fine though so its a software problem.
I use the google camera app alot cos stock samsung app seem to forget to use the flash even in dark rooms.

adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?

SiNJiN76 said:
I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?
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I still have stock ROM.
Are you also experiencing different focus zones in your pictures?
I'm really starting to think my camera is defective .

No. But did you make sure that you are not using Selective Focus Mode?

Yes, I did. All my tests and conclusions were based on my S3 and S5 experience

Well I read your post thoroughly and felt that you have written a reflection of what is going through my mind.
Exact same issues !! If you read my twitter feed ~ 10 days ago you will be happy to know that you are not alone.
I noticed the problem in the first 2 days of purchase and took it to a Samsung store few days later. They were very defensive initially but after 10 mins of technical conversation with a dude who did not know much about the difference between camera resolution and screen resolution I could show them the blur. Both on my phone and on a PC they had in store.
We did some like for like comparison with another note 4. Problem was evident.
They advice me to go back to service provider (Virgin Australia) and request a replacement under early life hardware failure.
I am now playing the to and fro game with my service provider who are throwing in all sort of hurdles. Hope I get a replacement !!!
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Just to show that I was really at the store
http://s27.postimg.org/ply8u686r/20141207_150515.jpg
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I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .

Typical problem of the Note 4's software.
I also opened a thread for discussing the matter - but people just did not understand the problem.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2948640
Just got nonsense replies.
Seems to be close to impossible making people understand the obvious... :/
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adinava said:
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...)
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Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?

Chefproll said:
Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?
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Yes Chefproll, here they are . Plus two new ones taken today.
See, when I focus on the left side of the screen, almost the rest of the picture is blurry and when I focus on the right side, the left part of the picture is blurry...
I assume the lens is off-center mounted :/...

Same case ...... see the photos ...

ebusuhejbi said:
I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .
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SO I found out from android central forums that if you shake it for like 30 seconds it works so obviously its a problem. I tried google camera and camera 360 and neither worked but my front camera is amazing. I'd suggest a swap for a brand new unit.

Mmahrous said:
Same case ...... see the photos ...
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They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?

lef7667 said:
They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?
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I was thinking the same too.
I own N910C and i don't have this issue at all. I know there are two types of camera lens in the note 4 one is Sony and the other one is Samsung. Maybe you have one of the others ?!

Glad i found this thread.. I have the exact same issue with my note 4. You need to be knowledgeable with photography in order to articulate the issue and identify the problem.. Most posts keeps talking about the protective film.... Arghh
However the issue is not constantly there for me... It's almost as if the lens module is mounted loosely, and it can go out of alignment relative to the sensor, creating a tilt shift effect.
Sometimes it seems if i shake the phone, or tap a few times on the camera lens, the issue goes away...
Very frustrating. Did you ever resolve it?
Thought it might be the ois acting up... However i couldn't disable it for stills...

I have the auto focus issue as well. shaking the device or tapping the bottom a few (hard) times makes the cam focus properly. Problem is there all the time, although after focussing properly gone, then reappearing after camera app close..

I've also noticed this issue. I have more problems focusing on the left (Samsung logo) side of my camera sensor. If I flip the phone over, the same side of the device produces blurry details while the other captures it crisp.
http://imgur.com/kEnHKg2
http://imgur.com/dF9jHBD
Notice how the bag is clear in one, blurry in the other. The Samsung logo side of my device seems to always be blurry in photos of objects about a meter or more away. I have been unable to focus altogether on distant objects where the entire image is blurry.

I've had the same problem and I asked for a replacement. It's a defective unit, now my phone's camera works great.

Real NIGHT VISION on our G3

Since our G3 has the laser focus shouldn't it be able to see at night?. Night vision uses IR light which the laser focus puts out. Now all we need is an app to process the IR light from our laser focus an boom we have REAL night visiovision not like those fake android apps. The best part about it is only our G3 are capable of doing it.. Take that Apple and Samsung.

Afaik to use IR the camera sensor itself would need to be able to capture the light emited in the IR spectrum. This is pure speculation right here since I havent read on how the laser autofocus works, however I do believe it it only used to measure the distance to automatically adjust focus tpfor that distance. Emiting IR and capting/reading the IR is 2 different things.
Also, I can clearly see the laser autofocus as a red dot (not very smart, but SCIENCE). So the I'm not quite sure that the autofocus module can even detect IR.
And add to that, we're surrounded by IR. Emitting and being able to capture ad process the infrared spectrum around us with a sensor that was made for the visible spectrum (400-800nm) would be impossible to do unless it can also detect longer wavelengths (IR).
Tl; dr: Can't be done. Laser is red light, not IR. No infrared receiver/sensor. Camera sensor can't detect IR.
PS: Sorry if this is a bit hard to understand. I'm used to explaining physics in french lol

macdaddie87 said:
Since our G3 has the laser focus shouldn't it be able to see at night?. Night vision uses IR light which the laser focus puts out. Now all we need is an app to process the IR light from our laser focus an boom we have REAL night visiovision not like those fake android apps. The best part about it is only our G3 are capable of doing it.. Take that Apple and Samsung.
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1) Laser autofocus if a point source. It's ray is very focused and weak. Besides, it's in visible spectrum (though quite close to IR).
2) Our camera has an inbuilt IR filter. Until it's removed, it won't see in IR.

YaDr said:
1) Laser autofocus if a point source. It's ray is very focused and weak. Besides, it's in visible spectrum (though quite close to IR).
2) Our camera has an inbuilt IR filter. Until it's removed, it won't see in IR.
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Re point 2):
I don't believe that is true.
I use the g3 camera to verify that my IR emitters are working. The IR emitters operate outside of the visible spectrum and I can't see them. Point the g3 camera at them and boom they're visible. Test it now with your TV's remote control.
I cannot speak to point 1). However, I believe the threads OP is right, the tech is in place and all that is needed is:
a) someone capable of writing an app to exploit it; and maybe possibly,
b) an IR emitter LED array (perhaps built into a case or a clip-on attachment) to address point 1). To that point, the camera flash is an LED (light emitting diode) and therefore, by changing the input voltage can emit light of any colour in the visible spectrum; and I submit - should also be able to emit light in the IR spectrum.

Issue with the camera/camera app

See the attached pictures
Anyone have the same issue with pictures having weird pattern/marks?
Also there are lens flare on the third picture taken with oneplus 2. I took it again at the same position with my zenfone 2 without any lens flare problem, in fact i don;t have any lens flare issue like this with my zenfone2. It seems that one plus 2 camera is easier to have those lens flares maybe due its design (the distance between the glass, the lens and the sensor )??I don't know.... Im not familiar with optical physics..：p Is this a deflect with my camera or just a common issue with op2 camera?

tlky said:
See the attached pictures
Anyone have the same issue with pictures having weird pattern/marks?
Also there are lens flare on the third picture taken with oneplus 2. I took it again at the same position with my zenfone 2 without any lens flare problem, in fact i don;t have any lens flare issue like this with my zenfone2. Is this a deflect with my camera or just a common issue with op2 camera?
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It's common with ANY camera.
It all depends on the angle and distance between the glass that is used in the device.
You may not see it on your Zenfone 2 but given the right angle I can assure you it is there.. May not be as prominent but every camera has this.
My advice > Stop pointing the camera at light sources directly or shoot with RAW and post-process it out if you care that much.
Don't ask me how, Google it :silly:
Oh, forgot to mention you can try and cover the light glare using your hand above the camera but be sure to avoid making your hand visible in the shot and depending your angle and subject matter it may not be possible to do it anyway.
Like I said.. Best way to avoid it: Don't take pictures directly aiming towards light sources.

Thanks for your detailed explanation Stevels. I understand that lens flare is a common issue with any camera, what I want to express is it seems that one plus 2 camera is easier to have those lens flares maybe due its design (the distance between the glass, the lens and the sensor )??I don't know.... Im not familiar with optical physics..：p
Also with regrading to my 1st issue if you enlarge the first two pictures you can see weird pattern/marks on the sky, have you experience this before

tlky said:
Thanks for your detailed explanation Stevels. I understand that lens flare is a common issue with any camera, what I want to express is it seems that one plus 2 camera is easier to have those lens flares maybe due its design (the distance between the glass, the lens and the sensor )??I don't know.... Im not familiar with optical physics..：p
Also with regrading to my 1st issue if you enlarge the first two pictures you can see weird pattern/marks on the sky, have you experience this before
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Yeah, just a processing problem. Will probably be ironed out with future software updates.
To be honest I'm just waiting for CM12.1 to be released for the OPT.
Then I'll be grabbing the MaxxAudio and CameraNextMod apps and using those
Ordered my OPT a couple hours ago

Front camera quality

Anyone else notice how the front cam isn't so sharp at times? If I am not holding my phone from the same direction as the light source, the pics are kinda blurry. It's currently 10am where I am and the sun is shining bright yet this camera is producing low quality images while indoors like there isn't enough light though there is. It's as if the light needs to shine directly into the sensor to create sharper images. My Nexus 6p took way better pics in low and even no light. I will post pics from both devices for comparison. Anyone else care to post some as well?

vlug said:
Anyone else notice how the front cam isn't so sharp at times? If I am not holding my phone from the same direction as the light source, the pics are kinda blurry. It's currently 10am where I am and the sun is shining bright yet this camera is producing low quality images while indoors like there isn't enough light though there is. It's as if the light needs to shine directly into the sensor to create sharper images. My Nexus 6p took way better pics in low and even no light. I will post pics from both devices for comparison. Anyone else care to post some as well?
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I had an issue with the screen protector i had put on..it was covering the front cam and due to finger print smudges the selfie pics were coming blurry.i removed that protector and now it looks quite good. Jist check if ur front camera is not getting smudged with finger prints.
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Nah, I have a very nice microfiber cloth I cleaned it with several times before posting this. It's just a strange thing with the lighting. I feel as if the camera just isn't good without all of the light available going into the sensor. Give me some time to get these pictures in order. You will see what I mean

vlug said:
Anyone else notice how the front cam isn't so sharp at times? If I am not holding my phone from the same direction as the light source, the pics are kinda blurry. It's currently 10am where I am and the sun is shining bright yet this camera is producing low quality images while indoors like there isn't enough light though there is. It's as if the light needs to shine directly into the sensor to create sharper images. My Nexus 6p took way better pics in low and even no light. I will post pics from both devices for comparison. Anyone else care to post some as well?
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I noticed this. Here is a pic I snapped yesterday, definitely soft, https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=c3QtZHpLdlNWRjVkNXNtUWpua2hGN240em82UElR I went into the settings and had to adjust the Skin tone, it was on 2. 0 seems clearer? I'll have to test. FFC is the Sony IMX320 (rear is Sony IMX333) on mine.

TheBrandonWRX said:
I noticed this. Here is a pic I snapped yesterday, definitely soft, https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=c3QtZHpLdlNWRjVkNXNtUWpua2hGN240em82UElR I went into the settings and had to adjust the Skin tone, it was on 2. 0 seems clearer? I'll have to test. FFC is the Sony IMX320 (rear is Sony IMX333) on mine.
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Yea, the 0 setting is none while 8 is extremely smooth. Here's a pic I just snapped. https://goo.gl/photos/tGDJtMX7Xt821oBU8
This picture isn't sharp by no means. Soft as you described it. This is disappointing. Coming from a two year old phone.

This is mine with skin tone set to 0
https://goo.gl/photos/qLtbwWbamJqUe9Qi9
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This is mine with skin tone set to 0
https://goo.gl/photos/qLtbwWbamJqUe9Qi9
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It is indoor..so lighting is quite low..but i think it came out quite well..decently sharp
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Is the shape correction on? I disabled it on mine, now pics with the front camera seem sharper.

GibMcFragger said:
Is the shape correction on? I disabled it on mine, now pics with the front camera seem sharper.
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Even i didn't use shape correction
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vlug said:
Yea, the 0 setting is none while 8 is extremely smooth. Here's a pic I just snapped. https://goo.gl/photos/tGDJtMX7Xt821oBU8
This picture isn't sharp by no means. Soft as you described it. This is disappointing. Coming from a two year old phone.
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Agree. There has to be an update as this has a killer sensor.

Sounds like the issue that plagued some GS7 units as well. Sad to see
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I thought it was just me or the lighting in my room here. Definitely seems like the focus is off and they all come out somewhat blurry. Big draw for me was getting this to get better group selfies (don't judge). I hope a firmware update fixes this.

Devhux said:
Sounds like the issue that plagued some GS7 units as well. Sad to see
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After doing research, it seems to be the exact same issue. I read where someone had taken their S7 to best buy and compared it with other display units or something like that. Their results were that another device had an okay camera and then another was bad just like theirs... Or something like that lol. Can't remember currently. Either way, this camera is butt ???