Hi everyone, so I was wondering what was the best way to backup everything, apps, apps' data and system settings before flashing a new ROM or the same but with new base (which usually requires a clean install).
I've been told that the TWRP backup isn't that great because it'll bring over the "junk" from the previous version, and it doesn't really backup photos for instance.
Samsung's SmartSwitch, at least for me, doesn't backup applications at all. I've tried the phone version as well as the computer one, the phone one crashes once it gets to the app part, the computer one finishes but then there are no apps backed up.
I tried Titanium Backup but I don't know exactly which is the best option, should I be backup just apps and data? Or system data as well? If the correct way is both and let's say that the new ROM is "more" debloated", wouldn't I be putting back in the bloatware by backing up system data as well?
As far as system is concerned I just want to backup something like alarms, memo, system settings like brightness and I think that's more or less it.
Thanks a lot to anyone that helps me, I've been making tons of backup recently trying to find the best solution but couldn't.
Personally I use Titanium Backup, including unlimited external AppData (see in Settings). By that I get at least 80% of my apps back with all the settings done. My photos/videos are stored on my SD and backupped via google photos.
Always looking for a better and easier way to do all this, but for the moment that works pretty well. Still takes 1 - 1&1/2 hours to switch rom, restore backups and set up all my apps that could not be backupped completely.
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I am looking at switching builds but dont want to have to reinstall everything post the new build install on my sd card.
What back up system do people recommend, and do any actually allow a full backup/restore that will work?
If not then i will have to reinstall everything, but that seems a really long winded way about switching builds!
Thanks
I save the data .img file from the current build. Then I copy the new Android folder on the root of the mem stick. Then I put the data .img file from the old intall back in the new folder.
The above suggestion doesn't always work. If you're going to a completely different build then it may cause problems.
I use Titanium Backup Pro. It does cost, but not much and allows a full backup and restore of all apps and data.
i just use the free titanium backup to backup all my apps. google sync for contacts and then all i have to do it set up a couple of things like wifi and it work
I used to use the free version, but the last restore I did had nearly 200 apps in it, and you have to click "install" and then "ok" for every app with the free version. The paid one does it without you needing to do anything - that's the only reason I paid for it. (Oh, and it can freeze apps too, which is good for finding out what would happen if you uninstalled an app.)
Applications backup but not cache or data?
System backups?
Sms and call logs?
And system backups?
Are those all to do? If i backup those, when i restore, will i be able to have my desktop widgets, desktop icons sorted correctly ?
I think the best answer is "it depends on what you want to restore to".
When I change roms, I make a full backup using CWM, that way, no matter what the new rom breaks, I can go back to exactly where I was before.
But if you really want the new rom and think the problem is in one app or setting, you can backup only the apps .apk, the apps data and the rom settings, then you can restore everything individually and see where the problem is.
This all assuming you are not changing major android versions (like from froyo to gingerbread) or not changing roms "types" (like from stock to CM or to miui). If you are, then the partial backup is not recommended since it may not work.
In this last case, your best hope is to backup the apps .apk and store all other data somewhere where you can import to android (like storing the contacts in google account), since you shouldn't really restore anything else.
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I think the best answer is "it depends on what you want to restore to".
When I change roms, I make a full backup using CWM, that way, no matter what the new rom breaks, I can go back to exactly where I was before.
But if you really want the new rom and think the problem is in one app or setting, you can backup only the apps .apk, the apps data and the rom settings, then you can restore everything individually and see where the problem is.
This all assuming you are not changing major android versions (like from froyo to gingerbread) or not changing roms "types" (like from stock to CM or to miui). If you are, then the partial backup is not recommended since it may not work.
In this last case, your best hope is to backup the apps .apk and store all other data somewhere where you can import to android (like storing the contacts in google account), since you shouldn't really restore anything else.
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I want a full back up; calendars sms call logs applications data system data etc. For sms i use go-sms backup, i hope it will restore without any problem. When i backup with cwm and restore, will my settings (system( be protected as before?
With CWM if you restore you will get all data, including Rom, Kernel, sms, calls, etc All you data that is in internal memory. Don't worry. If you restore it, you will get the phone like it was when you made the backup.
Titanium capabilities
I was wondering if it is possible to backup app (with their data), sms and contacts....all in one go using Titanium (non-pro version) (I think we call it batch backup)? I am totally new to the ROOTING and CUSTOM ROM worlds and I am literally freaking out with all the huge info on this topic on the internet. I am using a CM10 on I9000. Please help!
Yes i wonder too.
Boot in recovery
select backup to ext sd
run...
you have back up everythin like ghost in pc....
( so you can try another rom and if you dont like it restore your back up and you have you old rom
working with all data app contacts etc )
you must youse the same cwm version for restore with the one that you use for backup
Cursed Chico said:
Applications backup but not cache or data?
System backups?
Sms and call logs?
And system backups?
Are those all to do? If i backup those, when i restore, will i be able to have my desktop widgets, desktop icons sorted correctly ?
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Are you attempting to backup so that you can move the apps/sms/settings to the new ROM or backing up in case you want to restore? Titanium backup is probably the thing you want in the former case and either with cwm backup or with linux dd backup in the latter. Personally I had problem moving system settings between roms, but apps should work just fine.
After flashing and trying out many Custom ROMs on my Note3, I've been burned several times by having backups that don't work.
For example.
1. Had Lollipop 5.0.1 ROM, backed up everything to Samsung Smart Switch and Samsung Kies. Everything backed up, verified it manually. However, after upgrading to CustomROM MM 6.0.1 I cannot restore anything except contacts. No call log, no SMS, no apps and their settings (this takes most time to manually re-install). So Smart Switch and Kies are useless for me.
2. I also backed up everything in Titanium Pro when doing MM6.0.1 -> MM6.0.1 full wipe install. However, when restoring the backed up apps I had many force closes, many apps didn't work at all, many got their Google Play market issues borked (no amount of manual removal/reinstall helped this) and some could not be restored with my custom settings. So, Titanium Pro is near useless for me.
3. I also backed up to Google's own Marshmallow Backup feature. I got _most_ apps backed up, but not all of their settings and not all restored properly. Again, this is nowhere near 100% success and I had to manually re-install Launcher, it's desktop layout icons/positions, all widgets, all call logs, all SMS messages. Lots of work. This has been the "best so far, but nowhere near good" backup that I've been able to find.
So, is there anything out there on Android 6.x that just works? Always. No questions asked. Restores properly. Has clear reports on how/why/when it fails?
Helium Pro and MyBackup Pro both have tons of recent horrible user reviews. I'm not sure they are any better and rather not risk again all my apps/settings/data, because there's another for-pay software that almost works, sometimes
So, any recommendations?
How do you back all your:
- all contacts
- all call/text logs
- all SMS/MMS messages
- all user installed apps and their settings, all system settings
- all accounts and their passwords
- Launcher & setting and incl. desktop, lock screen, icon positions, app re-naming, etc. (I'm using Nova Prime)
Media files, incl. photos I can and always to backup manually.
Of course, I'm not looking to backup a whole ROM, incl kernel/system/baseband modem. Just the apps/settings and everything else.
Titanium backup can do all the things. Except backing up google password for example because I'm not sure which app is storing it.
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Rosli59564 said:
Titanium backup can do all the things. Except backing up google password for example because I'm not sure which app is storing it.
Sent from my SM-G925F
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Thanks, I already have Titanium Backup *root* and have tried it, but it fails on so many issues still.
Even the google backup is better, IMHO (i.e. more reliable on the average).
Never had TB pro fail over many many years .
That with a Nandroid/ Clockwork mod recovery covers all my needs .
Contacts i backup to sim card and Google.
Dont require text/ calls backup nor SMS messages .
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- all user installed apps and their settings, all system settings
- all accounts and their passwords
- Launcher & setting and incl. desktop, lock screen, icon positions, app re-naming, etc. (I'm using Nova Prime)>>>
Restored via Clockwork Mod backup restore data .
Any solid way to make a full backup of our phones yet? I know TWRP backups did not work at one point, and I am not sure if that was ever fixed. I want to install a custom ROM but I want a good way to make a backup so I can revert if necessary.
The way I've always done it is backup apps with Titanium Backup, create a backup file for my Nova home screen setup and upload my media (/sdcard) to GDrive via FolderSync Pro.
For switching ROMs, I just wipe and flash the zips in TWRP and go ahead and restore call logs, texts and apps from Titanium, download my stuff from GDrive and restore my home screen setup from the backup file I create with Nova.
I basically just have to reconfigure any system settings and I'm good to go.
I've heard good things about this app called Migrate on the Play Store but I'm going to stick with Titanium Backup for now as I know it works well for me. Maybe I'll give Migrate a shot one day.
That's pretty much how I do it!
Also, I never restore during the initial setup screen. I always setup device as new as I've heard there can be issues with that when switching between ROMs, especially OOS -> AOSP for example.
U must remove screen unlock before making twerp backup or else you get error when u restore. Also must be sure to select vendor_image and system_image instead of vendor and system.
Funk wizard say so https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77982197&postcount=7
I always used Titanium backup as well but since I've tried Swift Backup I'm using that. It's so much quicker and more convenient. It backups apps + data, wifi Networks, call logs, Messages etc. You can even sync it with your Google drive.
Hi, after rooting my phone with Magisk and having installed TiBu I proceeded to backup all user app + system data then I installed System app remover and removed some system apps that supposedly were "safe" to remove (briefing) but after a reboot I end up in a bootloop. I had to wipe everything and start from scratch (install ROM + Magisk)
On my first try I did not restore my data using Google + Samsung backup. I tried to restore my apps + system data using TiBu but after several hours of waiting to restore, it did not progress and stuck at 0%
On my second try I restored my data using google+samsung backup. After everything was set and ready I used TiBu's "Restore missing apps + all system data". This time TiBU did progress and completed the restore. After a reboot I start to notice that most of my apps/system settings customization are not even there... To name a few:
I had Full screen gestures instead of the navigation buttons. TiBu did not restore this
I had several accounts that TiBu did not restore (google, outlook, twitter, steam, blizzard, twitter and the list keeps going)
Simple things like Gboard was not even restored as default input method
Settings like one hand mode, edge lightning, quick panel layout, adaptive brightness, screen resolution (the list keeps going) were not restored the way I had them
TL;DR: TiBu did little to nothing despite having the pro version and the appropriate backup
My device:
Galaxy S10+ (Exynos SM-G975F)
Android 10 (G975FXXU3BSKO_G975FOWO3BSKO_ARO) patched with Magisk v20.2-11b7076a (20109)
I feel like I wasted my money..... worst spent 6+ dollars of my life
TiBu is a powerful tool if you know how to use it, in a majority of the cases restoring any complete system backup is always a bad idea. If you ever want to restore system data, you need to use nandroid backup or selected apps in TiBu. When you restore user apps (missing apps in your case) all their data is restored and restored to the level of functionality they had before backing up.
For full-screen gestures, it's likely some mismatch between existing settings and restored system settings.
As for the accounts, it was likely because of restoring the app itself, they would have been there even before you backed them up.
Again, for system settings, you can't rely on TiBu in One UI, restoring system settings barely works in stock android.
My workflow is like this, If I am just tinkering with the system but my phone is stable, I do a nandroid backup (backup in recovery) and try out the mod/feature if it suits me, I continue with it, if not I restore back.
If I know I want to format, I generally need to do this when I've messed up in the system and need to start over. I install all I need in TWRP, setup the system only restoring call and SMS backup from Samsung Cloud, restore missing apps and go through the phone settings and set them up again. This ensures no ****ups from the previous install come back and now that I end up doing it regularly, I can do all this under 30 mins.
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TiBu is a powerful tool if you know how to use it, in a majority of the cases restoring any complete system backup is always a bad idea. If you ever want to restore system data, you need to use nandroid backup or selected apps in TiBu. When you restore user apps (missing apps in your case) all their data is restored and restored to the level of functionality they had before backing up.
For full-screen gestures, it's likely some mismatch between existing settings and restored system settings.
As for the accounts, it was likely because of restoring the app itself, they would have been there even before you backed them up.
Again, for system settings, you can't rely on TiBu in One UI, restoring system settings barely works in stock android.
My workflow is like this, If I am just tinkering with the system but my phone is stable, I do a nandroid backup (backup in recovery) and try out the mod/feature if it suits me, I continue with it, if not I restore back.
If I know I want to format, I generally need to do this when I've messed up in the system and need to start over. I install all I need in TWRP, setup the system only restoring call and SMS backup from Samsung Cloud, restore missing apps and go through the phone settings and set them up again. This ensures no ****ups from the previous install come back and now that I end up doing it regularly, I can do all this under 30 mins.
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Thank you for taking your time to reply this thread, I am clearly new at this and I am barely scratching the surface. Gonna try and search more info about this "nandroid backup" (not even know what this is and how it works) you mention and see how it works. As for "TRWP" I read something about it but per the offical site: "Long story short, TWRP support for Android 10 is going to take a while." and that is why I did not pay attention to this app