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Hey guys. Is the Verizon S5 CDMA + GSM?
Is it factory unlocked?
Can it be used on T-mobile with everything working correctly (LTE/4G)?
Thanks
nthydro said:
Hey guys. Is the Verizon S5 CDMA + GSM?
Is it factory unlocked?
Can it be used on T-mobile with everything working correctly (LTE/4G)?
Thanks
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I don't know the answer to your question but I can confirm that the Galaxy S5 that I received from TMobile was in fact LOCKED.
I called the support # and was told that I had to have service and use it for 40 days before it could be unlocked.
I PAID THE FULL PRICE ($720 with tax)!!!
I asked to speak with a supervisor -- after 10 minutes on hold -- no change.
I told the store that I was going to bring it back because I didn't pay $700 for a locked phone. Everyone has been nice but it's locked for policy issues and not for technical reasons. I flew to Canada when I bought my iPhone4.
And, AT&T is worse -- one guy told me 3 months and tech support said it had to be active for 6 months.
>> So, my AT&T sim card is not working in my SM-G900T model.
It is GSM/LTE unlocked (as are all Verizon LTE devices), but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have T-Mobile's LTE bands (or at the very least it doesn't have all of their bands).
From what I have been reading, on a Verizon phone, calls and data using GSM and WCDMA bands would work. But LTE bands are Verizon specific hence would not work.
Tl; Dr Voice /data using GSM/WCDMA. No LTE.
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alex_tytn said:
I don't know the answer to your question but I can confirm that the Galaxy S5 that I received from TMobile was in fact LOCKED.
I called the support # and was told that I had to have service and use it for 40 days before it could be unlocked.
I PAID THE FULL PRICE ($720 with tax)!!!
I asked to speak with a supervisor -- after 10 minutes on hold -- no change.
I told the store that I was going to bring it back because I didn't pay $700 for a locked phone. Everyone has been nice but it's locked for policy issues and not for technical reasons. I flew to Canada when I bought my iPhone4.
And, AT&T is worse -- one guy told me 3 months and tech support said it had to be active for 6 months.
>> So, my AT&T sim card is not working in my SM-G900T model.
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Does this mean, once unlocked, T-Mobile and AT&T versions would work on each other's networks including LTE?
I also noticed that with S5, there aren't GSM carrier specific versions. Meaning they are going IPhone route with making all GSM phones enabled that for that country's LTE bands. Is that right reading?
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it is unlocked
I am using the verizon s5 on tmobile. It is unlocked and can be used on tmobile LTE. However there are only set modes. LTE/CDMA GSM/UMTS AND GLOBAL. Which means you can't use lte and gsm at the same time (no lte data and voice calls). I usually keep it on gsm, and when I need speedy data I switch it to lte.
alex_tytn said:
I don't know the answer to your question but I can confirm that the Galaxy S5 that I received from TMobile was in fact LOCKED.
I called the support # and was told that I had to have service and use it for 40 days before it could be unlocked.
I PAID THE FULL PRICE ($720 with tax)!!!
I asked to speak with a supervisor -- after 10 minutes on hold -- no change.
I told the store that I was going to bring it back because I didn't pay $700 for a locked phone. Everyone has been nice but it's locked for policy issues and not for technical reasons. I flew to Canada when I bought my iPhone4.
And, AT&T is worse -- one guy told me 3 months and tech support said it had to be active for 6 months.
>> So, my AT&T sim card is not working in my SM-G900T model.
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T-Mobile isn't locked.
Sent from my SM-G900T
drworsley said:
I am using the verizon s5 on tmobile. It is unlocked and can be used on tmobile LTE. However there are only set modes. LTE/CDMA GSM/UMTS AND GLOBAL. Which means you can't use lte and gsm at the same time (no lte data and voice calls). I usually keep it on gsm, and when I need speedy data I switch it to lte.
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How? If you put a TMobile SIM in the phone, or any other foreign SIM, it boots but receives no service. This is in line with almost all other Verizon branded phones (excluding Apple) -- where the phone works (unlocked) outside the US, but won't roam to ATT/TMo in the US.
Pictures please. For the record, my S5 doesn't register on a network with a TMobile or Australian SIM. The Australian SIM in a Nexus 5 roams to TMobile.
-- Dan
Cpudan80 said:
How? If you put a TMobile SIM in the phone, or any other foreign SIM, it boots but receives no service. This is in line with almost all other Verizon branded phones (excluding Apple) -- where the phone works (unlocked) outside the US, but won't roam to ATT/TMo in the US.
Pictures please. For the record, my S5 doesn't register on a network with a TMobile or Australian SIM. The Australian SIM in a Nexus 5 roams to TMobile.
-- Dan
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This was probably true about a year ago but the recent releases from Verizon, e.g. iPhone 5/5s and galaxy s4 has been fully unlocked world phones. I'm sure there are a few other phones... I think lg g2? I'm not exactly sure. But I have personally stuck my sim(T-Mobile) into my friend's Verizon phones (s4 and iPhone 5s) and they work right away after a reboot. Only problem might be an edit in APN for data and mms. Just sharing my experience, you should check out your phones again.
Teo032 said:
This was probably true about a year ago but the recent releases from Verizon, e.g. iPhone 5/5s and galaxy s4 has been fully unlocked world phones. I'm sure there are a few other phones... I think lg g2? I'm not exactly sure. But I have personally stuck my sim(T-Mobile) into my friend's Verizon phones (s4 and iPhone 5s) and they work right away after a reboot. Only problem might be an edit in APN for data and mms. Just sharing my experience, you should check out your phones again.
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Not trying to be a jerk, but unless you tried this process in the actual phone in question, then you don't really know if it works. The phone DOES NOT just magically work on TMobile if you put a SIM in, you receive NO service. Now, I didn't go mess around with APNs -- typically those are only for MMS/Data. This is also true for several other phones:
Razr HD / Maxx HD
Galaxy S3
In the past, when the phones were SIM locked, a foreign SIM would prompt for an unlock code before the phone even booted into "normal" Android. That's not the case here -- because the phone is not SIM locked -- but I do believe it is network locked to VZW only when in the US.
For the record, I did try this in my S5. I will be going to Australia next week and will try a Telstra (or perhaps Optus) SIM over there to see what happens.
-- Dan
Cpudan80 said:
Not trying to be a jerk, but unless you tried this process in the actual phone in question, then you don't really know if it works. The phone DOES NOT just magically work on TMobile if you put a SIM in, you receive NO service. Now, I didn't go mess around with APNs -- typically those are only for MMS/Data. This is also true for several other phones:
Razr HD / Maxx HD
Galaxy S3
In the past, when the phones were SIM locked, a foreign SIM would prompt for an unlock code before the phone even booted into "normal" Android. That's not the case here -- because the phone is not SIM locked -- but I do believe it is network locked to VZW only when in the US.
For the record, I did try this in my S5. I will be going to Australia next week and will try a Telstra (or perhaps Optus) SIM over there to see what happens.
-- Dan
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Yes, I haven't tried it on the s5, but I was pointing out fact that it does work on recent releases which someone confirmed worked on s5 by just plugging it in. I'm also correcting your statement " This is in line with almost all other Verizon branded phones (excluding Apple) -- where the phone works (unlocked) outside the US, but won't roam to ATT/TMo in the US." because Verizon apple does work in the US on T-Mobile and AT&T beginning from iPhone 5. I believe the 4s was still carrier locked.
I was a wireless agent not to long ago, so I know how these things work, not that it magically just works... I'm just sharing you how some recent releases from Verizon has been world unlocked and a few others have mentioned that they just plugged it in and it worked. So good luck and have fun in Australia.
Teo032 said:
Yes, I haven't tried it on the s5, but I was pointing out fact that it does work on recent releases which someone confirmed worked on s5 by just plugging it in. I'm also correcting your statement " This is in line with almost all other Verizon branded phones (excluding Apple) -- where the phone works (unlocked) outside the US, but won't roam to ATT/TMo in the US." because Verizon apple does work in the US on T-Mobile and AT&T beginning from iPhone 5. I believe the 4s was still carrier locked.
I was a wireless agent not to long ago, so I know how these things work, not that it magically just works... I'm just sharing you how some recent releases from Verizon has been world unlocked and a few others have mentioned that they just plugged it in and it worked. So good luck and have fun in Australia.
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OK Thanks.
It is odd that the apple phones -- and some of the Android phones -- are totally unlocked so that you can use them on ATT/TMobile in the US -- but some (like the S5, apparently) are not. I still am interested to know how some of the other users in this thread got their S5s working on TMobile...
Why would anyone want to buy a Verizon GS5 and use it on T-Mobile? The bootloader is locked and there is currently no unlock method available.
Would you like to exchange?
Would you like to exchange your verizon s5 with my tmobile s5?
i wanted to use it for verizon but the phone is locked to tmobile and at&t.
It would be ideol if i can find someone to exchange it with someone who has a verizon s5 and is looking for tmobile or at&t s5.
thanks,
sy3dal29 said:
Would you like to exchange your verizon s5 with my tmobile s5?
i wanted to use it for verizon but the phone is locked to tmobile and at&t.
It would be ideol if i can find someone to exchange it with someone who has a verizon s5 and is looking for tmobile or at&t s5.
thanks,
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You could check out Swappa. There may be some people that are interested.
nthydro said:
Hey guys. Is the Verizon S5 CDMA + GSM?
Is it factory unlocked?
Can it be used on T-mobile with everything working correctly (LTE/4G)?
Thanks
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I can confirm the Verizon GS5 is compatible with T-Mobiles LTE network I'm using one now with LTE all you have to do is go to settings mobile network and switch to Global mode some times you'll have to toggle LTE then back to global to get LTE to kick in.
I am able to successfully use my VZ Galaxy Note 3 and my wife uses her VZ Galaxy S5, both devices on T-mobile Edge, HSPA, HSPA+ (21mbps), and LTE (band 4) frequencies. These devices unfortunately will not do DC-HSPA+ (42mbps), but that's not a big deal for us because LTE coverage is good where we live. We have no issues with making voice calls, or sending SMS/MMS, and don't have to switch APN's or toggle between Global Mode or GSM/UMTS mode. We leave them on Global Mode with the correct APN settings.
Here's the guide I followed for both (with correct APN settings screenshots to accommodate for MMS on page 4 or 5 i believe):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
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drworsley said:
I am using the verizon s5 on tmobile. It is unlocked and can be used on tmobile LTE. However there are only set modes. LTE/CDMA GSM/UMTS AND GLOBAL. Which means you can't use lte and gsm at the same time (no lte data and voice calls). I usually keep it on gsm, and when I need speedy data I switch it to lte.
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How did you unlock the Verizon S5? BTW theres a bounty on doing so.
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This is all new info to me. I have an AT&T galaxy S5 that I want to use on Verizon. Is it possible or do I need to trade for a Verizon-specific model?
I was curious if anyone had tried dual CDMA carriers on their dual sim G4s. My understanding is that for 3G cdma voice the device itself is registered as opposed to a 3G GSM which registers the sim, so only one CDMA service could be active at a time. Changing to another CDMA carrier would mean going through Verizon's or Sprints's activation process each time you wanted to change to a different sim (this was my experience with a 3 sim adapter). I'd love to hear someone more knowledgeable chime in on this subject and provide some feedback on whether or not this is how it would work with a dual sim moto G4.
I'd love to have dual CDMA sims because I have free service with ringplus (Sprint MVNO) but it's spotty in rural areas, whereas Verizon has the most solid signal in the remotest regions.....however I think it's a pipedream. I am aware that you can do a CDMA LTE sim switch and get data without a problem (I'v done this with a triple sim adapter), it's voice and text that I'm interested in being able to switch to, without having to go through the activation process. And because I need this voice and data in remote areas without LTE, VOLTE isn't an option.
I hope that isn't too convoluted or arcane a question, I realize it's not a common scenario. But with the Moto 4G being carrier friendly to all the north american providers (GSM and CDMA) and having a dual sim slot, it's the first plausible solution to what I'd like to achieve.
Unfortunately, the only G4 models that have CDMA are the US models (XT1644 G4+, XT1625 G4, XT1607 G4 Play, XT1609 G4 Play for Verizon Prepaid), and the US models are only available in single-SIM format.
From what I've been gathering, there are no dual-SIM CDMA phones that fully work with US carriers available yet. The OnePlus 3 comes sorta close, it's dual-SIM and has CDMA Band 0, which Verizon uses in most markets, but at the moment it either works in 1x/EVDO mode for calls/text, or LTE mode for data. However, it's lacking CDMA Band 1 (Verizon & Sprint) and CDMA Band 10 (Sprint), so it's not ideal. It's also lacking Verizon's main LTE Band 13, and all of Sprint's LTE bands.
Slightly good news, though. The upcoming ZTE Axon 7 is dual-SIM and FCC testing indicates that it fully supports all US carriers, including all Verizon and Sprint CDMA bands.
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Unfortunately, the only G4 models that have CDMA are the US models (XT1644 G4+, XT1625 G4, XT1607 G4 Play, XT1609 G4 Play for Verizon Prepaid), and the US models are only available in single-SIM format.
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Ah, that's unfortunate.
xtermmin said:
The OnePlus 3 comes sorta close,
Slightly good news, though. The upcoming ZTE Axon 7 is dual-SIM and FCC testing indicates that it fully supports all US carriers, including all Verizon and Sprint CDMA bands.
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I'll keep an eye on it.
Would the concept work the way I described in the first post though? I'm really curious if the phone would require sprint or verizon activation when switching cdma sims. I don't have a great deal of experience, simply my results with a multisim adapter. I was unable to test the adapter with a verizon and sprint capable phone (like a nexus 6) but tested it with an Verizon samsung s5 using gsm sims and a verizon LTE sim. The gsm sims (various at&t and t-mobile MVNO) were of course no problem, but switching to (or back to) a verizon LTE sim required teh verizon activation process (but not for data, as the LTE was active without activation).
Is it possible to have a dual sim (or even single sim) phone that supports both carriers (Verizon and Sprint) that could switch back and forth, or is the activation process simply inherreient with the way the devices imei's are registered on CDMA networks, and will always be required. For me going through the activation process for Verizon or Sprint when switching sims would simply preclude any practical usefulness with a dual sim cdma capable phone (although it would still have value as a dual sim with a cdma and a gsm sim).
Sorry for the late reply xtermmin and thanks for the info.
devinpatterson said:
Would the concept work the way I described in the first post though? I'm really curious if the phone would require sprint or verizon activation when switching cdma sims. I don't have a great deal of experience, simply my results with a multisim adapter. I was unable to test the adapter with a verizon and sprint capable phone (like a nexus 6) but tested it with an Verizon samsung s5 using gsm sims and a verizon LTE sim. The gsm sims (various at&t and t-mobile MVNO) were of course no problem, but switching to (or back to) a verizon LTE sim required teh verizon activation process (but not for data, as the LTE was active without activation).
Is it possible to have a dual sim (or even single sim) phone that supports both carriers (Verizon and Sprint) that could switch back and forth, or is the activation process simply inherreient with the way the devices imei's are registered on CDMA networks, and will always be required. For me going through the activation process for Verizon or Sprint when switching sims would simply preclude any practical usefulness with a dual sim cdma capable phone (although it would still have value as a dual sim with a cdma and a gsm sim).
Sorry for the late reply xtermmin and thanks for the info.
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I can't speak for Sprint, as I have Verizon, but I do know that they're more restrictive than Verizon.
On Verizon, the only current restriction is a whitelist when you try to activate a SIM for the first time. You have to use a device that's in Verizon's "activation database", typically Verizon-branded devices, iPhones 6 and up, the Moto X Pure, and (at some point, if not now) the Moto G4 lineup. Once you have an activated SIM, you can stick it into any compatible device (be it from Verizon, another provider's phone, or even an unlocked phone that doesn't officially work on Verizon) and you should be good to go.
For example, I've been using my same Verizon SIM that I got with the HTC Thunderbolt (when it launched in March 2011) in numerous other phones (Verizon phones, US Cellular phones, unlocked phones, even some GSM/LTE-only phones) with no need to contact Verizon or use the website or anything. I've been able to just pop in the SIM, adjust the connection method on the phone if needed, and go.
As for your experience with using a dual-SIM adapter on the Verizon GS5, it might be due to the phone going into "GSM/LTE" mode when you insert a ATT/TMO SIM, but not switching to "CDMA/LTE" mode when you switch to your Verizon SIM (thereby only connecting in LTE mode). Might want to try setting it to Global mode (GSM/CDMA/LTE). The Verizon version probably wasn't tested for dual-SIM use, so it might just be the OS not knowing to switch to the other mode, or it might be an issue with the adapter itself.
Regarding an actual dual-SIM device with both SIMs being CDMA, I'm unsure if it causes any issues, as there's been no phone with that ability released yet (technically, someone can try dual Verizon SIMs in the OP3, but the CDMA implementation on that phone looks to be pretty half-assed, so I wouldn't use it as a baseline). Guess it depends on how the SIM slots are setup (if they share the same IMEI, or if they have different IMEIs for the two slots). If they're the same IMEI, I can see there potentially being issues, but if they're different (which should be the case for any modern name-brand flagship), there shouldn't be.
We'll know more once the Axon 7 releases. Unfortunately, ZTE has said that CDMA support will be coming in a software update later, but at least the phone is physically banded for CDMA, so we won't know for sure until then.
Actually the xt1644 have dual sim slots , one is hidden open the phone and you will find it
Just curious if any of you know if the unlocked or at&t version of the priv has the cdma radios to run on Verizon. I've been seeing the unlocked and at&t versions around $300 but the Verizon version is still like $500 and totally not worth it since I'd be paying a $250 premium on my nexus 6 for a phone with the only real updrade being a slideout keyboard.
No. The Verizon Priv has the Radios for it's Verizon service ontop of the Global GSM ones for other GSM Carriers Worldwide. The Unlocked GSM Priv either physically is missing them or its disabled by software at the Request of Verizon. If it's disabled there is a chance it could be enabled if the Priv ever does get rooted, something that Won't happen else it tarnishes BB's image, or BB enables it. And that's if its there. But it most likely isn't as the Only Major Carriers that use CDMA are Verizon and Sprint.
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No. The Verizon Priv has the Radios for it's Verizon service ontop of the Global GSM ones for other GSM Carriers Worldwide. The Unlocked GSM Priv either physically is missing them or its disabled by software at the Request of Verizon. If it's disabled there is a chance it could be enabled if the Priv ever does get rooted, something that Won't happen else it tarnishes BB's image, or BB enables it. And that's if its there. But it most likely isn't as the Only Major Carriers that use CDMA are Verizon and Sprint.
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Does this mean that an unlocked VZW Priv would run correctly with an AT&T sim? 4g LTE?
I was looking at getting a used blackberry keyone to use on the sprint network. As far as I see, they're both model BBB100-3. I believe the Verizon version is unlocked. Does this mean however that Sprint will allow it on their network?
Thanks!
I've had this thing since early winter, and at first verizon thought it would work. I've even had it log onto verizon towers (via looking at phone info in settings) before
I know the radios for CDMA are missing, but the LTE bands are there. Verizon does NOT REQUIRE phones to support CDMA anymore. Why can't we make the h918 work/register properly on verizon? Yes, it is unlocked.
I'm very interested in this as well.
I have a H918 LG V20, I travel internationally and I use this phone with all SIM cards... But why doesn't it work with a Verizon SIM card?
I have problems with AT&T also for some reason.
I've had previous Android devices like the LG G5 variant and that worked fine on Verizon, AT&T, and Internationally.
technocrat7 said:
I'm very interested in this as well.
I have a H918 LG V20, I travel internationally and I use this phone with all SIM cards... But why doesn't it work with a Verizon SIM card?
I have problems with AT&T also for some reason.
I've had previous Android devices like the LG G5 variant and that worked fine on Verizon, AT&T, and Internationally.
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I don't use Verizon, but here's my guess:
For calls and SMS to work on a carrier on LTE only, you'll need VoLTE support. And at least for the major U.S. carriers, they each decide through some sort of certification which phones are allowed to get VoLTE. This will be more important in a few years when all the carriers go LTE-only after dropping all 2G/3G/CDMA networks. Currently on Verizon, if a phone can't get VoLTE, it would rely on CDMA for calls and text messages. Since the H918 isn't whitelisted for VoLTE and doesn't have CDMA bands, it won't work properly on Verizon's network. It can only get VoLTE on the T-Mobile network in the U.S.