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For the test, I used some professional light measuring equipment (my DSLR).
I captured an image at F/2.8, ISO 400, at 0 EV. Maxed out brightness on the Note 2, with Auto adjust screen tone off (important). I used a completely white picture shot at the same distance.
Before update:
Shutter speed 1/125s
After update:
Shutter speed 1/500s!
That is exactly 2 full stops. Or 4 times the original brightness.
Now, 400% sounds like a lot, like it would blind you. I don't want to create an over-expectation. It's seems adequately bright in a well lit room, where previously in that same room, the phone maybe seemed kinda dim.
I previously posted when I first got my original Galaxy Note II, that I was a little disappointed because people kept saying it is the brightest screen they ever had, and mine was far from that. But maybe those people saying that had something like this originally, but I just got it now. And it is beautiful.
Model: SHV-E250L (Korean Galaxy Note II, received OTA update today)
Very interesting mate,
thanks for sharing
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i have 2 notes here one of them have 4.1.1 and one with latest Poland rom
brightness is 100% the same on white page
its something wrong with ur camera :laugh:
yahyoh said:
:what:
i have 2 notes here one of them have 4.1.1 and one with latest Poland rom
brightness is 100% the same on white page
its something wrong with ur camera :laugh:
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Camera is just fine. It is a precision instrument and I have definitive proof with 2 JPG and CR2 files with EXIF information. But maybe the Korean Note 2 was configured to be dimmer than the Note 2 that you have.
Funny thing is iPhone 5 was just released this week, and that screen is cranked up to super bright when put next to the Note 2. It is a shocking comparison, but now the Note 2 can hold it's own. But maybe they didn't want the negative press and decided to enable the brighter mode for the Korean customers as well.
If your thought your screen was never that dim in bright settings, maybe it will not impact your screen at all. On the other hand, if you were disappointed with the screen's brightness bright rooms or show rooms, then you may be very surprised when the update is applied. No promises. I heard through the grapevine from another XDA member I should expect a big boost in brightness, and I did want to confirm it so I prepared my camera to do testing before I hit update, and after. The improvement has exceeded my expectations.
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Camera is just fine. It is a precision instrument and I have definitive proof with 2 JPG and CR2 files with EXIF information. But maybe the Korean Note 2 was configured to be dimmer than the Note 2 that you have.
Funny thing is iPhone 5 was just released this week, and that screen is cranked up to super bright when put next to the Note 2. It is a shocking comparison, but now the Note 2 can hold it's own. But maybe they didn't want the negative press and decided to enable the brighter mode for the Korean customers as well.
If your thought your screen was never that dim in bright settings, maybe it will not impact your screen at all. On the other hand, if you were disappointed with the screen's brightness bright rooms or show rooms, then you may be very surprised when the update is applied. No promises. I heard through the grapevine from another XDA member I should expect a big boost in brightness, and I did want to confirm it so I prepared my camera to do testing before I hit update, and after. The improvement has exceeded my expectations.
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are you sure u shot the photos in the same conditions ? same lightning / sun in the room? totall darkness room ?
but if its 400% brighter you should see difference by ur bare eyes.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 made no difference in brightness here.
the only thing i seems to notice is that my screen has become sharper. since 4.1.2
also making pictures with the phones cam has improved 200% in dark places also the flash timing and photo taking has improved. i noticed
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are you sure u shot the photos in the same conditions ? same lightning / sun in the room? totall darkness room ?
but if its 400% brighter you should see difference by ur bare eyes.
4.1.1 to 4.1.2 made no difference in brightness here.
the only thing i seems to notice is that my screen has become sharper. since 4.1.2
also making pictures with the phones cam has improved 200% in dark places also the flash timing and photo taking has improved. i noticed
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Yes, I did it in a controlled lighted environment. It was a scientific test. I understand light, and how to measure it very accurately because of my years studying photography.
With that said, my model is a Korean SHV-E250L Galaxy Note 2. I got it OTA from my carrier yesterday. The maximum brightness when I got the phone, originally was not as bright as I had hoped. And I just didn't understand how people were saying it was the brightest screen they had. I thought it was just some fake reviews of people trying to promote their haphazardly written reviews that was written with rumors than actual time with the device.
But now I know that some people got really bright Note 2's out of the box, and some didn't. I'm just hoping that people who wished that their Note 2 was a lot brighter, because they think it is dim, may experience the same effect with an update when it arrives.
Yeah just saw your video on the daily note II youtube channel (btw im a subscriber!)
Austin3161337 said:
Yeah just saw your video on the daily note II youtube channel (btw im a subscriber!)
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Same here, like your videos very much. I recommended your channel for a "new to android" friend of mine who recently bought his note 2.
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Hmmm it is definitely brighter, I thought I was the only one who saw it, whites are alot nicer for some reason.
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NumairRana said:
Hmmm it is definitely brighter, I thought I was the only one who saw it, whites are alot nicer for some reason.
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Please let us have the link so that we also can relish a good feature in our phone
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For the test, I used some professional light measuring equipment (my DSLR).
I captured an image at F/2.8, ISO 400, at 0 EV. Maxed out brightness on the Note 2, with Auto adjust screen tone off (important). I used a completely white picture shot at the same distance.
Before update:
Shutter speed 1/125s
After update:
Shutter speed 1/500s!
That is exactly 2 full stops. Or 4 times the original brightness.
Now, 400% sounds like a lot, like it would blind you. I don't want to create an over-expectation. It's seems adequately bright in a well lit room, where previously in that same room, the phone maybe seemed kinda dim.
I previously posted when I first got my original Galaxy Note II, that I was a little disappointed because people kept saying it is the brightest screen they ever had, and mine was far from that. But maybe those people saying that had something like this originally, but I just got it now. And it is beautiful.
Model: SHV-E250L (Korean Galaxy Note II, received OTA update today)
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Thanks for the data, if you could post the CR2's I would be interested in taking a look
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Thanks for the data, if you could post the CR2's I would be interested in taking a look
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Here are the JPEG and CR2's. These pics are not glamour product shots. They are for the purposes of measurements off a highly calibrated light measuring device. You have to look at the EXIF information. The whole point is to take the same picture with the same level of brightness, by only exposing the sensor to 1/4 of the original open shutter time. The shutter speed indicates change in brightness because trying to evaluate a picture being brighter with people's eyes is always subjective.
Here's additional test information.
Camera: Canon 20D
Lens: Canon 60mm Macro F2.8
Light Metering: Center Weighed
ISO: 400
F-stop: F/2.8
0 EV
Phone settings:
100% Brightness
Auto Brightness off
Auto adjust screen tone off
Model: SHV-E250L
The Test:
Before update:
Shutter speed 1/125s - 1/160s
After update:
Shutter speed 1/500s - 1/640s
If you know a bit of photography, you will see that it was a good test with all the right settings. It was done in a room with a very dim controlled light source. It would be impossible to do a test like this with a point & shoot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/520h0j18tqni5l4/brightnesschange.zip
Again, sounds like not everyone will get this boost, but some people have gotten it. Some people didn't. I just wanted some concrete numbers, hearing that I may notice this. I wanted more definite proof than say something like "yeah, it definitely kinda seems brighter."
So I did this right before and after the update. And I'm glad I did because even with these concrete numbers, people seem to not believe. I can only provide the facts for my device.
I have also noticed higher brightness. Now my eyes becomes tired faster than before
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I have also noticed higher brightness. Now my eyes becomes tired faster than before
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sorry but brightness is 1000% the same with 4.1.1
i compered note2 running 4.1.1 with my note with 4.1.2 it its same :cyclops:
yahyoh said:
sorry but brightness is 1000% the same with 4.1.1
i compered note2 running 4.1.1 with my note with 4.1.2 it its same :cyclops:
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Dunno but for me lowest brigthness is higher than before. Was darker with 4.1.1 and with first leak 4.1.2
The Brightness is better in 4.1.2
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If it would be 400% brighter then it would exceed at least 800 candela, making it brighter than even the most powerful LCD screens by quite the margin.
Sorry but somebody clearly DOESN'T understand light. Deducting brightness from a camera's shutter speed is failure at logic because they are not directly correlated. The camera can have a logarithmic response to light output in the shutter response.
The scientific method is to use a photometer and nothing else.
Let's try to figure this out.
Gsm arena puts Galaxy Note II at 402cm/2, they put iPhone 5 at 640cm/2.
So these are the possible scenarios:
1. Your Note II is now brighter than iPhone 5.
2. Before the update, your Note II model was dimmer than all others and now it's comparable.
3. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
So what we need is a comparison with iPhone and other Notes!
I myself just flashed a 4.1.2 Rom with matching kernel I did not notice any brightness difference.
I also studied the kernel source for your model "update 1", there were some differences in values for the display driver. But I'm not 100% what they do.
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Let's try to figure this out.
Gsm arena puts Galaxy Note II at 402cm/2, they put iPhone 5 at 640cm/2.
So these are the possible scenarios:
1. Your Note II is now brighter than iPhone 5.
2. Before the update, your Note II model was dimmer than all others and now it's comparable.
3. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
So what we need is a comparison with iPhone and other Notes!
I myself just flashed a 4.1.2 Rom with matching kernel I did not notice any brightness difference.
I also studied the kernel source for your model "update 1", there were some differences in values for the display driver. But I'm not 100% what they do.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008197
Here is a 16% real increase in brightness. Or from your point of view, 169%.
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The auto-brightness on the N4 is too conservative - it's always lower than it should be, especially in outdoor conditions.
I've tried some apps (Velis, Lux Lite, and others) but they tend to flicker and have annoying notification icons (even when I disable them from All Apps).
Any suggestions?
*Giving Lux Lite + N4 Plugin another try, I believe I missed out on all its features the first time. Will post back tomorrow.
It's becoming a cliche for me to recommend this app, but if you are rooted, give Gravity Box for Xposed Framework a try.
Not sure why its lower for you outdoor. Auto brightness works for me outdoor.
There are couple tricks that works for me with nexus 4. When I am in home, I bring the brightness to 0%. Outdoor, I leave the brightness on auto. At night I use an app *screen filter* by haxor industry; its free and works great. You can bring the brightness to the lowest level as possible.
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Wow that's crazy. I think my N4 is TOO bright. Even outdoors
Have you compared it to another N4?
Maybe faulty screen?
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in your brightness setting doesn't it have the sensor sensitivity adjustment and adjust the values of brightness
paranoid android
I have notification toggle to configure the brightness if I need too, indoors at 0 and outdoors high as above
you don't have the screen protector over the sensor right?
I find the auto brightness feature doesn't really make screen dark at night. I find if I turn off auto brightness, slide all the way to dim, then turn auto brightness back on phone then dims enough. I want to try a market auto dimming app for non rooted phones that actually dims in the dark but I have one concern. It is my understanding the true max brightness in sunlight can only be achieved if brightness is set to auto. If you manually set to 100% it isn't as bright. That said, if I use a playstore app to control brightness will I lose the Samsung super bright brightness that comes on in daylight?
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I'm using Lux Auto Brightness by Vito Cassisi (paid version) since S3 and it's good; lots of options! Get the free version Lux Lite from the GooglePlay store to try it out 1st. Hope this help.
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I find the auto brightness feature doesn't really make screen dark at night. I find if I turn off auto brightness, slide all the way to dim, then turn auto brightness back on phone then dims enough. I want to try a market auto dimming app for non rooted phones that actually dims in the dark but I have one concern. It is my understanding the true max brightness in sunlight can only be achieved if brightness is set to auto. If you manually set to 100% it isn't as bright. That said, if I use a playstore app to control brightness will I lose the Samsung super bright brightness that comes on in daylight?
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I use Lux Auto Brightness too, and it works very well. Try it.
Do you lose max brightness in daylight?
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Do you lose max brightness in daylight?
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although i cannot answer this question, i can answer/confirm your first one:
max brightness can only be reached on auto, the full manual max. brightness
is way lower then the one achieved with auto in direct sunlight!
Then it seems unlikely that alternative apps can tap in to that max mode.
Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
Lux has a profile editor that can set brightness range. Try it out to see if it suits your requirement.
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Then it seems unlikely that alternative apps can tap in to that max mode.
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Second Lux Auto Brightness. I've had Velis before (free) which also works well but since I got the free Google play credit I went for Lux as it has more options.
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i wish i knew if these apps can access full max brightness in sunshine. I'm not sure if I could tell.
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This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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I think the LG G2 display is great. Max brightness is pretty bright, I can't see why anyone would want it even brighter. Auto brightness levels are a pain, but that can easily be fixed by using Lux to manage it. If you measure quality in brightness alone, you may be better off buying a flashlight.
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This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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Even if it was brighter,tell me that again after 4-5 months.When the oled will lose a very significant amount of its brightness...and will probably have a very nasty burn in,that will stay there forever for the used to see lol
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Even if it was brighter,tell me that again after 4-5 months.When the oled will lose a very significant amount of its brightness...and will probably have a very nasty burn in,that will stay there forever for the used to see lol
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That is absolutely right!!!
AMOLEDS hate full brightness and full, direct UV light exposure!!! (Sun, office lamps, tanning beds, etc) LOL
IPS all the way for me!!!
Cheers!
I have both the Note 3 and the G2. The Note 3 does indeed get brighter at maximum brightness, it actually becomes painful on the eyes because of the contrast ratio of the AMOLED screen. It's so bright it hurts to look at it in the dark. The IPS screen on the G2 is much more pleasant to look at in my opinion, that's one of the reason I use it as my daily phone.
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This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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My wife has a g2 while I have the note 3. The note 3 goes into a extra brightness mode in direct sunlight and is clearly more visible than the g2 outside in direct sunlight. This mode only occurs in direct sunlight on auto brightness and can not be turned up that high manually.
While the g2 screen is nice, I do notice that the viewing angles are not as good and the scree don't seem as crisp and clear as my note. Still a great screen
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Well thanks all, this means the note at first is better specially under direct sunlight or so but it has the burn in issue and so on, so I guess I'll stick with the g2 then
I only asked this question because I feel that blacks are much more pleasant to look at on the note than the grey blacks on the g2
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Well thanks all, this means the note at first is better specially under direct sunlight or so but it has the burn in issue and so on, so I guess I'll stick with the g2 then
I only asked this question because I feel that blacks are much more pleasant to look at on the note than the grey blacks on the g2
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The burn in shouldn't be an issue. Only phones u will see burn in on are display units ramped up to full brightness and stuck on the home screen for hours and hours.
I had a galaxy s3 for almost 2 years and it had no burn in and the screen was still bright. Oled has come a long way since the first amoled screens.
People say the same thing about plasma but plasma has a superior picture vs lcd...my plasma in my bedroom is 3 years old and stays on sportscenter and I have no burn in
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Big fat no. Put them side by side and judge for yourself. I did when i bought this phone and saw the difference for myself.
Note 3 is bigger yes but not better...
tiguy99 said:
Big fat no. Put them side by side and judge for yourself. I did when i bought this phone and saw the difference for myself.
Note 3 is bigger yes but not better...
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All of my last devices have been amoled until the g2. Had burn in issues on 2 galaxy fascinates, and blotchy low-light darks on 3 droid razrs. And yes, amoleds do degrade in color/contrast over time. Not a big deal if you swap out or jump up devices frequently, but if you go the contract term it gets noticeable.
What swung me back to LCD was the purchase of a nexus 10 over the summer. The HD LCD blew me away & convinced me of how far this technology has come.
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i have no problem at all viewing my g2 screen in direct sunlight on 100% brightness... the g2s screen is alot better in my opinion i just wish the blacks were alittle darker
My roomate has the Note 3. I made him sit with me and do a bunch of browsing battles and gaming/app opening challenges. Throughout these "competetive" tests I notices that the Note 3 does definetly have a brighter state on auto and max brightness, but I found that my G2 had a clearer, brighter minimum brightness (which is what I always leave Marge on). Yes my G2's name is marge. But that Amoled screen is just a contrast machine and I think that helps elude to the brighter screen we see, since it's blacks are so deep. But as for an overall screen? G2 all the way. Edge to edge, excellent viewing angles for what I need and amazing color reproduction that the Note 3 couldn't quite match. Hope this helps anyone!
Sometimes brightness gets too low.... even in lighting conditions and i have to adjust it manually. I think there is some callibration problem
firdous95 said:
Sometimes brightness gets too low.... even in lighting conditions and i have to adjust it manually. I think there is some callibration problem
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I am also facing the same issue. But I have accepted this considering the low cost of the device
matrixzone said:
I am also facing the same issue. But I have accepted this considering the low cost of the device
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Its not about the price because earlier i had moto g turbo...a bit lower price than this but there was no such problem. And with g5 plus its not like there is brightness problem...in normal lighting...it gets too bright also sometimes...hope it can be fixed in os updates or in custom roms.
Turn off your adaptive, set brightness to Max. Turn on adaptive. It will adjust accordingly now
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Turn off your adaptive, set brightness to Max. Turn on adaptive. It will adjust accordingly now
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Has someone checked?? Does this work??
indra2009 said:
Has someone checked?? Does this work??
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I actually may have jumped the gun. Still doesn't adjust very well on its own.
Yep facing same issue
So I've messed around with this a lot and I keep adaptive on with my brightness set around mid point. It seems to adjust pretty well for me.
Yes, same here
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Tried the mentioned steps of disabling adaptive and re-enabling after maxing out display and found it to be better now
i actually like the lower brightness
Same as some others here, brightness is too low in dark places.
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Remember that adaptive brightness also changes as to what your brightness slider is at. Personally, I used to have this issue while having my brightness at 1/2. Now I have it at 3/4 and my issues seem to have gone away.
Yeah, I find the auto brightness pretty useless. It's too dark in some indoor lighting situations yet too bright in an almost-dark room. I find it easier to just adjust it when I need to. I wish it worked well, but I don't like the way it adjusts the brightness. It might be fine for some people, but it's not for me.
Turn off auto-brightness. Pull down notification shade/shortcuts. Adjust brightness according to your liking.
Then again, I never liked auto anything. I like to be in control.
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Turn off your adaptive, set brightness to Max. Turn on adaptive. It will adjust accordingly now
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Seems it worked. There is a sensor that manage the this process? Thank you for your reply.