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Stock vs Custom

So yesterday, I rooted and installed CyanogenMod 12 on my Nexus 6. Didn't like it. Wasn't impressed at all. First, there was very little difference between CM and the stock rom. No difference in battery life or anything special like that. I did like the customizations and also the fact that the notification light was now active (which btw is a real battery killer). I also liked the double tap to wake feature. However, the firmware itself was as buggy as it could get. Lag everywhere. Some apps wouldn't open properly and, worst of all, the camera app kept malfunctioning when I needed it the most.
Now I know CyanogenMod updates their nightlies just about everyday, and the majority of those bugs are fixed by now, but because it didn't bring anything really new to the table, I switched back to the rooted stock rom, installed LightFlow and a zip file which would enable the double tap to wake feature on rooted devices, and haven't looked back. Moral being, in my opinion at least, Stock is better than Custom.

So you flashed cm, which in my opinion isn't the greatest rom, and decided that stock is better than any custom rom? Maybe try one of the many roms out there that are way better than cm

lol, cm. cm hasnt been any good now for what, 4, maybe 3+ years? try some of the other non cm or cm based roms. there are many great, completely stable, aosp roms out there. i use terminus, with the elementalx kernel.

So wrong.

OP,
Are you seriously serious? Have you bothered to try any of the aosp based roms? So many to choose from, even some custom roms based on stock that would give you at least some of tHe things you say you like.

toledodj said:
So yesterday, I rooted and installed CyanogenMod 12 on my Nexus 6. Didn't like it. Wasn't impressed at all. First, there was very little difference between CM and the stock rom. No difference in battery life or anything special like that. I did like the customizations and also the fact that the notification light was now active (which btw is a real battery killer). I also liked the double tap to wake feature. However, the firmware itself was as buggy as it could get. Lag everywhere. Some apps wouldn't open properly and, worst of all, the camera app kept malfunctioning when I needed it the most.
Now I know CyanogenMod updates their nightlies just about everyday, and the majority of those bugs are fixed by now, but because it didn't bring anything really new to the table, I switched back to the rooted stock rom, installed LightFlow and a zip file which would enable the double tap to wake feature on rooted devices, and haven't looked back. Moral being, in my opinion at least, Stock is better than Custom.
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Lmao stop trolling ya nutcase

I find Stock ... for lack of a better description, boring.
Running Multirom test build for the nexus 6 for a week or so now and not looking back. I have the latest stock build as my internal rom that I can load by simply restarting my phone to remind me why I spent the time and effort ( and occasional donation) setting up custom roms. One can do a lot with stock/root and third party apps, but the really slick stuff needs to be built in to work well. Hence the rom development!
I am currently farting around with DU's 5.1 build for the themes and Chroma's latest for the layers. I have these installed as secondary roms on the Phone , all 3 roms take up about 9 GB right now and allow for three distinct flavors at the drop of a reboot.

toledodj said:
So yesterday, I rooted and installed CyanogenMod 12 on my Nexus 6. Didn't like it. Wasn't impressed at all. First, there was very little difference between CM and the stock rom. No difference in battery life or anything special like that. I did like the customizations and also the fact that the notification light was now active (which btw is a real battery killer). I also liked the double tap to wake feature. However, the firmware itself was as buggy as it could get. Lag everywhere. Some apps wouldn't open properly and, worst of all, the camera app kept malfunctioning when I needed it the most.
Now I know CyanogenMod updates their nightlies just about everyday, and the majority of those bugs are fixed by now, but because it didn't bring anything really new to the table, I switched back to the rooted stock rom, installed LightFlow and a zip file which would enable the double tap to wake feature on rooted devices, and haven't looked back. Moral being, in my opinion at least, Stock is better than Custom.
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So out of all the greatest stable daily driver of aosp, and custom stock base ROMs your first choice was CM a known buggy Not fully stable ROM? [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Rookie's.

Lol wow some of you guys are rude. It's just an opinion. Yes, I've installed other customs roms and, while they're all fine and stable, nothing new is brought to the table that can't be installed on the rooted stock ROM. I did mention that I'm still rooted, right? Really no need for custom roms for me.

OP does have a good point.

toledodj said:
Lol wow some of you guys are rude. It's just an opinion. Yes, I've installed other customs roms and, while they're all fine and stable, nothing new is brought to the table that can't be installed on the rooted stock ROM. I did mention that I'm still rooted, right? Really no need for custom roms for me.
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This isn't what your first post says. You say you installed cm and go on to basically bash it and then say stock is better than custom. You never say anything about any other custom rom, so what do you expect people to think?
For me personally, using a rom the has either layers themes or cm themes alone makes that custom rom better than stock. I love having the ability to make my phone look different any time I want to.

I agree with the many posters. Who cares if stock rooted is better than a custom ROM? Just run stock then no need for a thread. And once again CM hasn't been good since CM7 lol

toledodj said:
So yesterday, I rooted and installed CyanogenMod 12 on my Nexus 6. Didn't like it. Wasn't impressed at all. First, there was very little difference between CM and the stock rom. No difference in battery life or anything special like that. I did like the customizations and also the fact that the notification light was now active (which btw is a real battery killer). I also liked the double tap to wake feature. However, the firmware itself was as buggy as it could get. Lag everywhere. Some apps wouldn't open properly and, worst of all, the camera app kept malfunctioning when I needed it the most.
Now I know CyanogenMod updates their nightlies just about everyday, and the majority of those bugs are fixed by now, but because it didn't bring anything really new to the table, I switched back to the rooted stock rom, installed LightFlow and a zip file which would enable the double tap to wake feature on rooted devices, and haven't looked back. Moral being, in my opinion at least, Stock is better than Custom.
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What about the Chroma ROM? That is better than stock, it's brilliant. Zephik made some huge ART optimization recently. I can say it makes a difference. More features keep being added too.

i agree with op
Stock is much more stable than cm, aicp is what i use right now but still looking for a non cm based rom.

Have you tried Rastapop, Terminus, Slim....Anything besides CM? There are plenty of custom roms that run 100x better than CM.

kingston73 said:
This isn't what your first post says. You say you installed cm and go on to basically bash it and then say stock is better than custom. You never say anything about any other custom rom, so what do you expect people to think?
For me personally, using a rom the has either layers themes or cm themes alone makes that custom rom better than stock. I love having the ability to make my phone look different any time I want to.
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Eh, to each his own. I'm finding no problem in customizing the stock ROM to my liking.

BennyJr said:
Have you tried Rastapop, Terminus, Slim....Anything besides CM? There are plenty of custom roms that run 100x better than CM.
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Yeah, I've used LiquidSmooth, Chroma, Euphoria, etc. Not saying that I dislike custom roms. I like the thrill of installing a new ROM and praying to God that it works and functions properly (yes, I'm a root rookie). Customizing the stock ROM is just less of a hassle.

toledodj said:
Yeah, I've used LiquidSmooth, Chroma, Euphoria, etc. Not saying that I dislike custom roms. I like the thrill of installing a new ROM and praying to God that it works and functions properly (yes, I'm a root rookie). Customizing the stock ROM is just less of a hassle.
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You should run AOSP then. I usually don't like my roms much farther than stock either

I thought CM was AOSP based?

toledodj said:
I thought CM was AOSP based?
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Try benzo ROM with Zen9 kernel closest to stock experience but much better.

The Perfect Rom

I am one of those people who like a stock rom. Nothing is better than throwing on a stock AOSP rom after a string of crack flashes to test out the latest and greatest custom roms.
There are some great ones out there too such as, just to name a few of the greats, Cyanide, Blisspop, Dirty Uniform, Candy L and AOSIP. There are many more that I did not mention that are in my category of highly customizable roms. But there are so many more that it would take up a page alone just trying to mention all of the outstanding so if I did not get Yours on this list, please forgive me.
After a week or two you just crave to flash back to stock because of, put in you reason here, what ever is not working right, small issues or even as big as random reboots pop up from time to time. What ever the reason you feel the need to go back to stock to straiten your device back out or even to see why in the world you left to begin with.
You are back on stock, in the case of the Nexus 6, vanilla AOSP. It is supper reliable and rock solid OS but boring. It lacks pizazz, or customizability. And then you remembered why you flash that custom rom in the first place, it was to get that battery bar or custom colorable status bar icons and drop down menu. You are now back to square one.
This is where I start to think about just what is a perfect stock rom. Well I own quite a few devices, and my favorite "stock rom" of all would be CM12s, off of the One Plus one. It had all the feature that I would like right out of the gate without flashing so much as a custom recovery, although those of us who flash roms also do because we just enjoy flashing and the custom recovery would have to go on right away.
What I'm finally getting at in this long winded post is that I would love to see that rom ported to this device, CM12s, or better yet just to have that theme engine incorporated into a stock AOSP rom. I like the theme engine in CM12s. Why not just flash the latest CM12.1 made for my device and shut the heck up? Because CM12.1, as good as it is, has bugs. Remember, bugs are the reason we finally came back to stock or come back to stock from time to time and that is to prove to ourselves that our device does work right and that there is nothing with it.
So I guess that this is my lame attempt at asking a dev out there to do this, to make the stock rom that came on this device capable of running the theme engine that comes stock on the One Plus. I think that would be an awesome rom. Simple yet capable of customizing with your favorite theme. I don't do layers and yes I have tried it. I test roms. That's my love. So I do flash roms like RostaPop and Chroma and Lollipopalooza to name a few and I just like themes better. And I have a large collection of themes that I purchased and would like to use them. Just my preference.
What are your thoughts on a perfect rom? If you are a Dev and are willing to take up this "unofficial request" I would be willing to do the testing and If it works out, I am one of those that "pay to play", so to speak, for the outstanding work that you devs do and would make a donation for your trouble. Let me know your thoughts and thank you for reading this post.
"Chance Favors the Prepared"

I somewhat agree with you on the whole "stock" thing...problem is I'm a flashaholic. Even if I'm perfectly content I'll still find something to flash. Like I was thrilled to be running "M" dev preview, and not just the stock image, but the ROM that was developed which I'm sure you've seen. It was great with Hells kernel and ran fantastic.. well except I couldn't get V4A to work for the life of me and my download speeds on WiFi weren't as good as on 5.1.1. But I'm back to my all time favorite ROM & kernel on this device, and that's Per's Spring ROM & kernel... I have yet to find something better than his work, and I've been through it all. So if you haven't tried his CM12.1 based Spring I suggest you do...its awesome.

i used to be a flashaholic back on the Gnex, and N5 days, now I'm an old man. I like stock rooted unlocked unencrypted, Google bloat doesn't bother me. What bothers me is unstable and a bunch of broken and useless features to make your device look stupid and not like a true android.

I'm not going to say much, but stock is not aosp. you can not say stock aosp as stock. stock and aosp are two different ROMs.
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if you dont believe me, try running the aosp browser on the stock ROM.. oh, guess what, it won't work. why? because they are two different ROMs.

Lots of apps already updated on M preview. Very happy with it now

Almost all apps "ROM" are same ... are little difference between them ... For Me, best are: Benzo Rom, CM12.1, and Euphoria ...

Benzo is the most stable, hard hitting, battery saving, butter smooth ROM I've ever used on any phone.

simms22 said:
I'm not going to say much, but stock is not aosp. you can not say stock aosp as stock. stock and aosp are two different ROMs.
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if you dont believe me, try running the aosp browser on the stock ROM.. oh, guess what, it won't work. why? because they are two different ROMs.
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I agree completely. What I was trying to get at though was that, at least for me, on my One Plus I think that they had a winner with the stock rom that came on it. It was AOSP like for the most part (actually CM) but included the theme engine in it for people who looked to customize. So if you like to stay plain you could or of you wanted wild that option was there as well.
Now on the Nexus 6, the stock OS is, at least to me, boring in it's looks but functions almost flawlessly. I would just like to see Google do something like CM12s for people who may not want to flash but still want customization in their stock rom.
"Chance Favors the Prepared"

glockman4519 said:
I agree completely. What I was trying to get at though was that, at least for me, on my One Plus I think that they had a winner with the stock rom that came on it. It was AOSP like for the most part but included the theme engine in it for people who looked to customize. So if you like to stay plain you could or of you wanted wild that option was there as well.
Now on the Nexus 6, the stock OS is, at least to me, boring in it's looks but functions almost flawlessly. I would just like to see Google do something like CM12s for people who may not want to flash but still want customization in their stock rom.
"Chance Favors the Prepared"
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your wish has been done..! in m, google includes the code for rro(layers) in it. so you can use the layers manager app, and layers themes, to theme your device, stock.

simms22 said:
your wish has been done..! in m, google includes the code for rro(layers) in it. so you can use the layers manager app, and layers themes, to theme your device, stock.
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Interesting to say the least. I have read some of that and seen some videos that talked about just that. As long as it is user friendly than they will have a winner. But for people to really gravitate to it, it will have to be more use friendly than it is in lollipop.
I'm going to wait a bit to try "M" out again though. It just wasn't stable enough for me as it was a couple days ago.
"Chance Favors the Prepared"

Does Snapchat still auto rotate picture in M
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Remember layers was an extension of the rro code found in lollipop

It seems as if I'm always falling back on stock+xposed+gravity box+ my favorite battery sipping kernel and this usually yields excellent results!

giant22000 said:
It seems as if I'm always falling back on stock+xposed+gravity box+ my favorite battery sipping kernel and this usually yields excellent results!
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Same here, started when I got my HTC One M8. S-OFF'd it and converted to GPE. Stock Google w/ Gravity box and a Custom Kernel is my favorite on my Nexus 6 & HTC One M8.

Well, for me I need customizable nav bar height and preferably Layers/Theme.
So I just haven't been using stock since Nexus 4.

I have tried many ROMS (PA, CynaogenMOD, Chroma, .....) on several devices (HTC Desire HD, Nexus 4 and Nexus 6) and for me DirtyUnicorns ROM + Kernel is the best setup I have ever found.
Lightweight
Essential features but not blown up
Stable
Developed by a whole experienced team with frequent updates

Xtrasmooth on my N5 and now on my N6.

simms22 said:
I'm not going to say much, but stock is not aosp. you can not say stock aosp as stock. stock and aosp are two different ROMs.
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if you dont believe me, try running the aosp browser on the stock ROM.. oh, guess what, it won't work. why? because they are two different ROMs.
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At the risk of looking like an idiot after all these years of flashing Roms, but with the hope of learning something, I have a few questions:
1. I always thought a Nexus device had bare-bones android which is aosp.
2. If the N6 factory ROM isn't pure aosp, what is it aside from the device specific stuff?

orangechoochoo said:
At the risk of looking like an idiot after all these years of flashing Roms, but with the hope of learning something, I have a few questions:
1. I always thought a Nexus device had bare-bones android which is aosp.
2. If the N6 factory ROM isn't pure aosp, what is it aside from the device specific stuff?
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The stock ROM has many google proprietary parts that replace the ones found in aosp. Aosp has many outdated apps also, such as browser, MMS, email, etc. Stock uses Chrome, Hangouts, Gmail by default. They are actually quite different at the source level. This is why devs have such a hard time trying to get stock features like WiFi calling & VoLTE working on aosp Roms.

stumpy352 said:
The stock ROM has many google proprietary parts that replace the ones found in aosp. Aosp has many outdated apps also, such as browser, MMS, email, etc. Stock uses Chrome, Hangouts, Gmail by default. They are actually quite different at the source level. This is why devs have such a hard time trying to get stock features like WiFi calling & VoLTE working on aosp Roms.
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I'm probably missing something since on the surface it seems like the difference are in the included apps (chrome vs browser, Email vs gmail, etc.). However you mentioned that some things are different at the source level.
So basically you're saying that a ROM built from source released by google (aosp) is different from a Nexus ROM?
Since I have no idea how to code, have some basic knowledge of Linux commands, and have never fathomed building a ROM there are some fundamentals that I'm missing hence my questions. Some of this may be elementary to you guys but having this knowledge helps me help others and gives me a better understanding how things work.
Thanks for taking the time to entertain my questions.

Custom roms based on B25

Hi there folks,
Are there any custom roms based on Stock Nougat B25?
Digged a lil in rom section but found only B19 like badboyz one...

Gachmuret said:
Hi there folks,
Are there any custom roms based on Stock Nougat B25?
Digged a lil in rom section but found only B19 like badboyz one...
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As far as I know, there isn't. The Badboyz ROM is the only ROM based on stock from my research and is outdated and doesn't seem to be getting any updates anymore. All the other ROM's are AOSP/Lineage based. So you're better off sticking with a rooted system stock B25. Not sure why the Axon 7 hasn't had any dev for stock ROMs. Not that I'm complaining since having any development for the Axon 7 is awesome. Just wish a little more would come out for stock based ROMs.

brian117 said:
As far as I know, there isn't. The Badboyz ROM is the only ROM based on stock from my research and is outdated and doesn't seem to be getting any updates anymore. All the other ROM's are AOSP/Lineage based. So you're better off sticking with a rooted system stock B25. Not sure why the Axon 7 hasn't had any dev for stock ROMs. Not that I'm complaining since having any development for the Axon 7 is awesome. Just wish a little more would come out for stock based ROMs.
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My wish either, specially as the sound quality until now isn't as high as stock on LOS... Specially for recording, as no one cares about it but I really need the high quality recording of this device

Gachmuret said:
My wish either, specially as the sound quality until now isn't as high as stock on LOS... Specially for recording, as no one cares about it but I really need the high quality recording of this device
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Yeah that's a plus to using stock over any custom ROM. I, myself, need stock for WiFi Calling, and considering there's no custom ROM's available with WiFi Calling, I'm stuck using rooted stock B25. It's good enough for me but customizable aspects are limited.

I also would love me a modded stock rom, which includes all the native features like Daydream, sound-relevant integrations et cetera, while changing some parts on the interface (especcialy those Quicktiles, which are horrendous. I can't even hide some of tiles i never use or make them smaller), maybe improve some of the camera-features (CameraAPI, HDR), removing some of those ZTE-Stuff and improve that background task handler/manager. I think there are a lot of optimization possibilities in the stock roms, but the main development work understandably goes into LOS-based roms who are well maintained and documented.
I would swap to a LOS-based one in an instant, if only those daydream-issues would be solved. :-/

Agent_no1 said:
I also would love me a modded stock rom, which includes all the native features like Daydream, sound-relevant integrations et cetera, while changing some parts on the interface (especcialy those Quicktiles, which are horrendous. I can't even hide some of tiles i never use or make them smaller), maybe improve some of the camera-features (CameraAPI, HDR), removing some of those ZTE-Stuff and improve that background task handler/manager. I think there are a lot of optimization possibilities in the stock roms, but the main development work understandably goes into LOS-based roms who are well maintained and documented.
I would swap to a LOS-based one in an instant, if only those daydream-issues would be solved. :-/
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Good points, I would add dark theme mod also ...
Hello devs out there... no one ready for this?

[Q] Stock or Not to Stock

I have unlocked my bootloader, rooted with Magisk and flashed AsopExtended Rom. Very happy with the performance of my A2017U as it is right now. My question to ya'll is, What would be the pros and cons of returning to complete stock (for OTA updates) or sticking with rooted and custom rom and not being able to receive OTA updates?

whats the question here? Its on you... what you prefer

Lol that depends of your needs - I stick to stock because of audio (mostly) and somehow bcz of camera (as far as I know you can install stock camera app).
That's question is a little bit irrevelant when you was stock and now you are testing custom rom.
So the answer is simply - replay to your question by yourself and with margin to your needs.

Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....

amaury48 said:
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...

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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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Yeah, I finally went back to stock B25 via the DrakenFx method to retain root and custom recovery. I came across the phone bug on my custom rom and that helped me make my decision to go back to a stock rom.....

Yep, used custom ROMs from the first week of owning the phone until about a month ago when I went back to B25 with Magisk. Couldn't be happier.

I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.

Dodgexander said:
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?

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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!

Dodgexander said:
Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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I think you simply have to flash the univ bootstack and your modem file to install RDX, it just wasn't tested on other phones but the A2017. but yeah, just use ADM Team

If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.

RobboW said:
If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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what's the downside of having it rooted?

Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.

RobboW said:
Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Magisk then...

Choose an username... said:
Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.

Dodgexander said:
Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.

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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.

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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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i was using the old release with version 5 (ADM Team V3)

I would stick with stock unless you are an extreme power user. ZTE fixed 99% of the issues with MiFavor with 7.1.1 and custom ROMs are littered with SO MANY little bugs. MiFavor is extremely stable now. Audio and camera is also much worse on custom.
But hey whatever you prefer.

Best custom rom in your opinion

just wanna know what custom rom you guys use as daily driver and i wanna know why, also pros and cons

Try them out. To each their own and some may find this topic rude.

Check this out : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/custom-rom-t3867290/page57
It's OP6 but not much difference as you know.
The spreadsheet on the last page is pretty nice.

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just wanna know what custom rom you guys use as daily driver and i wanna know why, also pros and cons
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Treskmod

CAF PE. There's a lot of great stuff outside of XDA.

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CAF PE. There's a lot of great stuff outside of XDA.
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CAF PE has fingerprint support for 6T?

For the first time (since OnePlus 5) I've been happy with stock OOS. Even the Oreo base didn't seem as polished but now I can happily say I haven't felt the need to go to a custom ROM.
The only inconvenience is not having full/proper OMS support, so I have to reboot to see built overlays in Substratum. Other than that I have no complaints.

Honestly all these roms, even w/FP support, are not better than stock OOS.
*None are as smooth
*Obviously none are as stable
*Either a rom is jam packed with features you may find useful, but buggy as hell. Or they are stable and powerful, but the only features are to change the time in the status bar.
*No rom has been able to imitate or even out perform OOS gestures, which surprisingly is pretty important for me.
But if I had to pick one it would be Omni Rom. Most balance of all things.

The new official omnirom is great although I couldn't get microg to work. It is the only ROM that screen casting worked for me.
The stock ROM with XXX script is pretty good.
The ROM I used the longest is carbon ROM.
Best is going to be different for each user as not all users require the same options. Right now I am on omni official although microg doesn't work. Using gapps for the first time in three or five years. Kinda odd using Google apps again.