So i'm still on 4.4.2 and it works perfectly fine for me (just the tab is slow in general tho), what are the pros/cons of the 5.1.1 build? I for whatever reason, believe that 5.1.1 may be a downgrade in battery life.
Dear imeem,
All i can say is the battery life is much improved when the tablet is upgraded(currently using 7.0 LTE with Android L 5.1.1.), smoother animations, improved security patches for malwares, smooth performance
Cons: I have noticed that rooting procedures became difficult on the Android especially when using one click root tools, now the rooting procedures involves flashing, unlocking bootloader to able to just achieved root than on the 4.4.2, other than that is nothing.
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Dear imeem,
All i can say is the battery life is much improved when the tablet is upgraded(currently using 7.0 LTE with Android L 5.1.1.), smoother animations, improved security patches for malwares, smooth performance
Cons: I have noticed that rooting procedures became difficult on the Android especially when using one click root tools, now the rooting procedures involves flashing, unlocking bootloader to able to just achieved root than on the 4.4.2, other than that is nothing.
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bought a refurbished T230NY from Amazon which was delivered today they say it comes with 4.4 another amazon customer says theres upgraded to 5.1.1 I want to upgrade then root just wondering what root process will work with the 5.1.1 same as 4.4?
Thanks
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1. Is it advised to gain root NOW prior to the forthcoming Sony Lollipop OTA?
Point being if I don't root and I update to the latest forthcoming lollipop ROM from Sony then will it become a difficulty to gain root via the current downgrade method of rooting.. Or will downgrading from Sony's lollipop ROM be easily achieved via flashing .93 from flastool for instance.
My idea being can I remain unrooted and update via forthcoming ota from Sony and still achieve root via the current root methods of downgrading.
2. If I gain root now though, and lose ota facility because of root then will i be able to flash the latest official Sony lollipop ROM via flashtool manually and still retain root?
Sorry for any repetition above it's crazy late here. I've been itching to root but have been holding off in anticipation of an imminent Sony lollipop release... After some thought on the questions I post above I'm trying to determine if it's best to root now to prevent a potentially unrootable Sony lollipop rom?
Thanks in advance
1. Will downgrade from lollipop be possible? I have seen both happing with other devices so could go either way. No guarantees because we just don't know yet.
2. There is no downside to rooting now. Once you're rooted you don't want to install any official OTA anyway. You could lose root or even damage the device (we don't know yet). What you want to do is flash Pre - rooted firmware which you can download in the forums here (usually you get updates sooner than through OTA this way)
It's like a whole new world once you familiarised yourself with the possibilities.
Root is recommended you don't have any downside. If you want the ota update so bad you can still decide to flash your current software again. Though this I would not recommend since there is a possibility that you will be stuck in lollipop like clouds5 said (if no downgrade possible) .I don't think this will be happening since Sony until now is not really restricting users to flash official firmware. Hell they even encourage bootloader unlock officially. That said, just root and the enjoy the countless advantages.
As another alternative, and only because it hasn't been pointed out, you could also try to simply remain confused. The challenge in this is in hopefully coming to a point of peace with your circumstance by no longer worrying about it. I've been awake for far too long and have been sleep deprived over the past days, thus having no business making posts like this and accepting ir as innapropriate, but the general philosophy expressed remains solid ?
Since i don't have it in my signature, don't forget to hit "Thanks" ?
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I will proceed to root now to prevent an unrootable Sony lollipop OTA ROM - which is incredibly likely given chanfires views on the difficulties of rooting lollipop "specifically devices with locked bootlaoders."
Given we would all like to retain our DRM keys for when reverting to stock based ROMs I think I've come to my conclusion.
Thanks for your thoughts, it has certainly helped to proceed with rooting now (with I've been itching to do) rather than wait patiently for Sony's lollipop OTA (which could become a hindrance, now that I've fully understood the 'potential' for an unrootable lollipop ROM.)
I like your signature ;o)
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I will proceed to root now to prevent an unrootable Sony lollipop OTA ROM - which is incredibly likely given chanfires views on the difficulties of rooting lollipop "specifically devices with locked bootlaoders."
Given we would all like to retain our DRM keys for when reverting to stock based ROMs I think I've come to my conclusion.
Thanks for your thoughts, it has certainly helped to proceed with rooting now (with I've been itching to do) rather than wait patiently for Sony's lollipop OTA (which could become a hindrance, now that I've fully understood the 'potential' for an unrootable lollipop ROM.)
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Jeah it is very unlikely that L will get root since it has already been obtained and the bounty is fulfilled. So there is no real motivation to keep working on it for this device. And also like Clouds5 said you will probably get your hands on rooted stock lollipop sooner here than through the official OTA update. Or 1-2 days later. Enjoy it .
Root now or regret it later.
I'd recommend you root now. The ability to get OTA updates is not a big deal at all. If you root, you can still install stock roms which would be just like the OTA roms. Sometimes the unofficial stock roms come out sooner than the OTAs, if not, then very shortly after. I actually like SONY's stock rom. I'm rooted, and I plan to just use the stock rom with some root enabled modifications.
I'd say that most custom roms are just as good or better than official stock roms from OTA.
With my last phone, I regretted not rooting when I had the chance. Sure, I was okay with it overall, but I wished I had root so I could have my phone exactly the way I wanted. There were some really useful functions that I missed from having a rooted phone, like screen-off music player controls. I missed being able to tether without the carrier knowing.
Some companies are making it harder and harder to root, so I say root now while you can.
If you root now, you're in control. If you wait for OTA, who knows.
My WiFi only tablet has gone through several 5.x.x updates, and at 5.1.1 is still almost unusable. I would like to get it back to a version that works well, and prevent it going to a more current version. I assume 4.something, or perhaps one of the non-Google versions.
The last "flashing" experience other than that managed by the device (routers, desktop and laptop PCs) was back in the 1980s with UV erasable and writable 2716 type devices. I'm not stupid, but am ignorant.
Are older images (I assume this deletes all) or other forms of update available? Are guides to doing it available?
Thanks!
The easiest way is using Nexus Root Kit from Wugfresh. It pretty self explanatory. Just make sure that driver test passes before flashing Kit Kat. I flashed latest stock 5.1.1 and it seems to be reasonably smooth although KK is faster.
I also rooted and applied stability mode from Root Booster.
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I am getting Galaxy S7.
So it will be totally new phone. This means that I intend to factory reset and no worries about data loss, new phone. This should make the question easier to answer.
I considered:
Keeping Marshmallow
Updating to Nougat
Updating to new Oreo which is just released to S7
Requirements:
Maximum compatibility with permanent root with no issues
Maximum compatibility with xposed
Maximum compatibility with various xposed modules
Ability to have BLACK everything I want absolutely no white menus anywhere.
I am coming from Kitkat. If I had my way I would keep KitKat, unfortunately KitKat 4.4.2 is not available for S7.
One only real benefit I see besides super slowing down my device on the new versions, is that Nougat and up I believe has a blue light filter integrated? It would be super cool because this is an important feature. Currently I use Twilight blue light overlay, but if I could have a native filter (like f.lux for PC) it would hugely improve my user experience.
Maybe I will like newer features, but maybe not. I usually DISABLE tons of stuff including:
Disable fingerprint
Disable updates
Disable face recognize
etc, I don't want any of that invasive junk.
I also don't use Samsung Pay or any other junk.
I like maximum control over my device and I hate white and have to have all menus black. I did learn some newer versions of android OS actually have theming engines included where I can turn everything black, that will be very great for me. White menus physically hurt my eyes especially at night. It's painful to me and causes red eyes. So I must have all black menus.
I don't want any problems especially not audio or gps etc problems and I never want to enable fine location.
So I wondered if you know which is the best OS to use to meet my requirements with best root and xposed compatibility and no problems. Marshmallow, Nougat, or Oreo and what version?
Additionally, I am also open to any recommended custom ROM, if you have any suggestion.
In further reading of threads I am getting worried. About to cancel my order and get refunded and give up on getting an S7 and just keeping my S5.
The reason I'm getting worried is because I am reading that US versions with Snapdragon processor G930V has a locked bootloader. I am unclear if I can root or not.
Advice would be helpful as I only just ordered and I am about to click cancel order.
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In further reading of threads I am getting worried. About to cancel my order and get refunded and give up on getting an S7 and just keeping my S5.
The reason I'm getting worried is because I am reading that US versions with Snapdragon processor G930V has a locked bootloader. I am unclear if I can root or not.
Advice would be helpful as I only just ordered and I am about to click cancel order.
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From what I have read, you can root a G930V on Marshmallow and Nougat but not on the new Oreo build.
This guide is for Marshmallow:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
And I believe this one is for Nougat:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/how-to/how-rooted-s7-nougatand-fixed-lag-t3576393
But no TWRP or typical custom recoveries. Only flashfire and modified stock ROMs. I think I read that Xposed worked on Marshmallow but not Nougat. Not certain on that though.
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From what I have read, you can root a G930V on Marshmallow and Nougat but not on the new Oreo build.
This guide is for Marshmallow:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
And I believe this one is for Nougat:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/how-to/how-rooted-s7-nougatand-fixed-lag-t3576393
But no TWRP or typical custom recoveries. Only flashfire and modified stock ROMs. I think I read that Xposed worked on Marshmallow but not Nougat. Not certain on that though.
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Well my S5 does have a custom recovery but is on stock rom, got full root when I downgraded to KitKat.
Thanks for letting me know it will probably be the same procedure. I did order it now. Going to try it. Hopefully, it works with full root,
Which OS+root is better, rooted Nougat or rooted Marshmallow (considering potential bugs)?
I think Nougat has a blue light filter built-in, is that right?
It may be a matter of opinion but I am open to hearing your opinions.
I received the phone today. It has this OS version G930VVRS4BRA1 which is 7.0 android I received the phone today. It has this OS version G930VVRS4BRA1
I don't know if I should change the OS or update OS or what or do for sure to be rooted
@jrkruse I need help
I am running Android 7 and I've followed all guides from everywhere on this site...I've rooted and unrooted to many times to count. I was running Android 6 when the phone upgraded to 7 and my hotspot stopped working so I rooted and tried everything to get it working and failed. I am miserable my phone has serious lag...it takes 10 - 15 seconds for the phone to ring and numerous other issues. I want to go back to Android 6 if possible but if not which every build that makes my phone usable again with hotspot like I had in version 6
SM-G935V
Baseband
G935VVRS4BRA1
Kernel
3.18.31-eng
[email protected] #1
Build
NRD90M.G935VVRS4BRA1
Hardware
REV0.7
PhoneStatus
Custom
i suggest you to update to oreo and install @jrkruse hybrid oreo rom (remember to use 3.13 or superior odin):
[Rom][ALL_CARRIERS_CRG2][Stock_Oreo_Hybrid][Safestrap_Preinstalled]
Then, if you want to root you can follow this guide by @jrkruse:
Root For S7/S7Edge Oreo And Nougat
And this one by @gwilly3301 to mitigate eng kernel lags:
Fix for Root lag Issues! OREO! Very close to stock speeds! [ENG kernel]
Finally you may try my tweaks aswell and see how your phone behaves:
[Tweaks][su.d][build.prop] Thermal Throttling solution and more
Here is also a guide to update by @DaJMan you may use to orientate:
{GUIDE} Flashing the SM-935U firmware onto your Verizon S7 Edge and Rooting
be sure to check @accountx last's messages there, he just went from marshmallow to oreo a few days ago
Hi there, first post on the site, so "Hi"
I have a Samsung Tab S2 (SM-T710) this is running Lillopod 5.0.2
Is it possible to upgrade this into Oreo? if so, is it a case of root it, then odin flash it? Are there any helpful guides / tips?
Thanks
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Hi there, first post on the site, so "Hi"
I have a Samsung Tab S2 (SM-T710) this is running Lillopod 5.0.2
Is it possible to upgrade this into Oreo? if so, is it a case of root it, then odin flash it? Are there any helpful guides / tips?
Thanks
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Suggest you use Odin to flash stock Nougat first and give that a go. It's pretty good and I've felt no reason to root just to get Oreo.
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Suggest you use Odin to flash stock Nougat first and give that a go. It's pretty good and I've felt no reason to root just to get Oreo.
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Thanks for the reply.
Is that the Samsung wrapped Nougat or the raw version..... I am hoping to get away from some of the Samsung bloat..
In your current Lollipop, the mixture of Samsung Bloat and a bad version of Android, (5.0.2 was a car crash.) makes it an awful experience.
In Android 6 & 7, Samsung have really reduced the bloat and the underlying OS, is significantly better. If you install stock and spend half an hour cleaning the bloat, its a really consistent experience on the S2 and I've not experienced any slowdown. :victory:
When thinking about root and Oreo, just remember this hardware is getting old now and wasn't exactly fast 3 years ago. Battery life on the 8" version isn't great due to its small size. As Samsung have been good at providing security updates, I really can't see enough gains in the whole rooting experience. :angel:
Many thanks for your help........ I will take the simple route via odin. I will see how I get along