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I loved Stock Android around when KitKat was out, but I came to hate it when Lollipop came out. I decided to get the Moto X and try out Marshmallow, but I'm already running into problems with/hating Google's (and Motorola's) oversimplified features.
Usually when I get a phone a put in an SD card so I can store some apps and data on there, as well as music, pictures, files, etc. that has been on the card for years. I pop in the SD card to the 16 gig phone ready to move Spotify and some other apps to the card, but then I run into that whole "format as internal storage. It says that formatting it will wipe the card (obviously), but it also says once I do I will only be able to use the SD card with this device, and when I asked a friend for help, she said I wouldn't be able to transfer data from the card anymore either.
I started searching everywhere on the internet for a workaround, but I can't find anything. Is there any workaround with this? I'm already rooted and on a ROM so I'm open to any suggestions. If not I'm just going to sell the phone or downgrade to lollipop.
Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Sheetzie03 said:
Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?
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Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?
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Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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Sheetzie03 said:
Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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The problem is Marshmallow wants me to format my SD card as internal storage just to store apps on it, and I am trying to find a way to store apps on there without formating it, as I've been doing with all previous Android versions.
I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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Sheetzie03 said:
I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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I don't want to use the adaptable storage because I will only be able to use the SD card with this phone and I won't be able to transfer data from it either.
This is a problem because I currently use the SD card between two phones, as a makeshift flash drive, and as storage for my DSLR so I can edit photos with my phone.
I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
Yeah, Motorola removed the Move to SD card feature in favor of "the richer experience natively provided by Android."
I think you can use TWRP "Partition SD Card" to create 2 partitions on the SD, though... a FAT32 partition to share with your other devices and an EXT4 partition that you can use to store apps. You'll need an android app like Mounts2SD to copy apps to/from the external storage.
The other option is to downgrade to 5.1.1 or use a 6.0 ROM that still has the old Move to SD card feature. I'm not sure if there are any, though.
gpz1100 said:
I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
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To the op Sorry man, I didn't really know all this. But this post seems to explain it pretty well. Looks like you may have to sell or downgrade. That sucks.
As far as this specific post is concerned, I'm trying to follow my best. As you said, best would be to buy at least at 32gb well some, including me have already bought a 16gb, unfortunately. Personally, iv chose to use adaptable now that twrp 3.0 is out. When i Install apps, wherever they go is where they go. After seeing this thread, I'm thinking maybe there is way to do things a different way to save some space. I went ahead and went into apps and tried moving Spotify from internal to SD card. but after I did this, I noticed every time I close the app it signs me out lol wth... that's a problem. I didn't know why it was doing that. Is this an example of an app not being able to run correctly on the SD rather than internal? Also, i tried moving maps from internal to sd, seemed to be running fine, but shortly after, i noticed on a reboot, it somehow uninstsalls. Its gone as if i uninstalled it manually but i obv did not. Like what? How is this even possible. I wanted to give you a few examples of what i tried and what was happening. But I asked myself why am I even doing this, is it to save space? If it is, that's fine.
But yeah man, it seems you know more than me about this , that's safe to say. But based on what iv written here, can you give me some advice on things to do if I'm using the adaptable storage option. Should I be moving apps? Why? Which ones? Or just leave things as is? Again i have a 16gb model with a 32gb card running adaptable storage. If there are ways to save space by moving apps certain places I'm fine with that. I'd just like to get your opinion on what exactly I should be doing based on the model I have, size card, and running adaptable storage. Hey sorry too bother you about this. I had noticed you replied to the op of this topic and you know what you are talking about.
And to the op, sorry if iv hijacked your post man.
Peace
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Yeah I should have gotten the 32gb version, although it's kind of my fault because I already had a negative opinion of post-kitkat stock Android yet I got the device anyways. Maybe I can resell the device on swappa and get a 32gb version instead of buying a new one, mainly because the only two phones of the 2015 generation I have interest in is the Moto X Pure and the One M9. Worst case scenario is settling for Samsung (as oneplus said, never settle)
To make matters worst, I temporarily moved all the data to my computer and formated the SD card as internal as a test, only to find out the two apps I put on there don't want to act properly because the SD card is too slow (which is why the feature shouldn't even be here in the first place).
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If I do do one of those options it would most likely be the second one because last time I messed with partitions on an SD card I, somehow, bricked the phone. I could look for a tutorial somewhere, but this phone's XDA forums is relatively quiet compared to other phones I've had (especially Android development).
@Sheetzie03, I can't help you with adoptable space as it's not something I have much experience with. It could be spotify relies on other components which are not accessible when on the sd.
I currently have a CM13 rom on my Moto g4 Plus and found a better rom that I will be switching to. My question is how can I move all my apps and data to the new rom without losing any data or files. I tried Titanium Backup but the problem is that it does not backup the apps on the adoptable sd card.
If you have Xposed you could give this a shot:
Marshmallow SD fix - http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.balamurugan.marshmallowsdfix
I had a similar issue on my previous phone and this took care of it.
If you don't have Xposed set up, and particularly if you don't have MANY apps on adoptable storage, you can try checking instructions on this page:
https://www.freesoftwareservers.com...table-adopted-storage-sd-card-to-internal-sd/
Unfortunately It didn't work with Marshmallow SD Fix. Is there a way to backup the sd card using TWRP?
Version number "BLU_R0010UU_V8.7_GENERIC_6.0_20170805-1450"
Version size
25.04 MB
Release date
2017-08-05
Where can we verify this?
I received this Sept 13th 2017.
I received too.
Here is the link
Xttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7F40Ha8ULj7RGw3bk1OWUpIWDQ/view?usp=drivesdk
Change "X" for "H"
LordDandy said:
Version number "BLU_R0010UU_V8.7_GENERIC_6.0_20170805-1450"
Version size
25.04 MB
Release date
2017-08-05
Where can we verify this?
I received this Sept 13th 2017.
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What is it you want to verify?
If just that there is an update out , yes there is. The notes say includes android security patches.
Patched TWRP installl-able version will up soon.
Is this the one that just showed up in my auto-update? (09/13/17 on 6:00PM Central time).
If so, it broke my phone, I can't use my microSD card anymore. I can see all the data, but the apps don't show up in my list, I can't update them from the google store, I can't run them except from google store IF it recognizes they are installed, and I can't transfer them to internal storage.
My time is wrong, and my phone keeps rebooting when I try to run my apps.
mrmazak said:
What is it you want to verify?
If just that there is an update out , yes there is. The notes say includes android security patches.
Patched TWRP installl-able version will up soon.
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Awesome! I'll be waiting. Thanks for the quick update.
KyleStilkey said:
Awesome! I'll be waiting. Thanks for the quick update.
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I uploaded V8.7 to the stock rom thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/r1-hd/development/modified-8-3-stock-rom-t3602672
I did not debloat or remove ads from 8.7
if you want the rom debloated you can run this command while in twrp with system set to mounted.
Code:
adb shell rm /system/priv-app/com.amazon.*/com.amazon.*.apk
adb shell rm /system/app/Adups*/*.apk
mrmazak said:
What is it you want to verify?
If just that there is an update out , yes there is. The notes say includes android security patches.
Patched TWRP installl-able version will up soon.
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mrmazak said:
I uploaded V8.7 to the stock rom thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/r1-hd/development/modified-8-3-stock-rom-t3602672
I did not debloat or remove ads from 8.7
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Will we see a debloat/removed ads version?
LordDandy said:
Version number "BLU_R0010UU_V8.7_GENERIC_6.0_20170805-1450"
Version size
25.04 MB
Release date
2017-08-05
Where can we verify this?
I received this Sept 13th 2017.
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I got the same one about the same date, proceeded to install it (after backing up whatever I could). It installed problem-free (I had about 1.5 GB of my 16 GB free, for what it's worth). Almost a week later, the phone is functioning as well as before (no speedup/slowdown/flaky behaviour). The only new feature is the automatic installation of Google Play Protect that automatically scans Apps periodically for who-knows-what (didn't complain about any of my 103 Apps, so it's not super-aggressive).
Terrabull said:
Is this the one that just showed up in my auto-update? (09/13/17 on 6:00PM Central time).
If so, it broke my phone, I can't use my microSD card anymore. I can see all the data, but the apps don't show up in my list, I can't update them from the google store, I can't run them except from google store IF it recognizes they are installed, and I can't transfer them to internal storage.
My time is wrong, and my phone keeps rebooting when I try to run my apps.
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I'm having many of the same issues, they seem to revolve around the microSD card. For some reason after the update my phone can't seem to access it or the app data stored there. Many of my apps were on my SD card so they're affected. I'm so annoyed I'm about to factory reset my phone to see if that helps. I've reported it to Blu but haven't heard anything.
Any suggestions on how to fix it w/o the factory reset? Thanks!
My guess is that the new update implemented more "security features." Since Google, in its not-so-infinite wisdom, considers SD cards to be inherently insecure, and Apps have become more and more difficult to store on SD cards with recent generations of Android, it is perhaps not so surprising that whatever limited possibility there was of installing Apps on the SD card before was removed with this update, causing the aforementioned problems. Especially for those who have the essentially useless 8 GB version of the R1 HD, which has only 3 GB or so available for Apps, this is not going to be good news.
I don't think a factory reset will help either (since it won't restore to the previous version of Android). The best that can be done is to save your important App data on the SD card by copying its contents onto a computer, then judiciously delete Apps that you don't need and reinstall them on the main memory and manually copy over the App data.
This is speculation, but it would be consistent with my own experiences on previous upgrades on earlier phones (the Blu Life One), where SD card usage for Apps became more and more problematic.
Or upgrade to a phone with more internal memory if you really can't find enough Apps to delete (I know that's not the point of this thread, but I think for the 8 GB R1 HD owners, that day will come sooner rather than later). Nowadays, 16 GB is the minimum for even light users, what with the the OS taking up the better part of 8 GB, and Apps like Whatsapp having no way to store their files, not even space-hogging media files, on the SD card.
Something similar happened to my phone with their spring update. Enough people had similar issues that Blu enabled people to roll it back. I wonder if the issues are related?
Also, I can' t update apps from the play store or download new ones.
tanguero8 said:
My guess is that the new update implemented more "security features." Since Google, in its not-so-infinite wisdom, considers SD cards to be inherently insecure, and Apps have become more and more difficult to store on SD cards with recent generations of Android, it is perhaps not so surprising that whatever limited possibility there was of installing Apps on the SD card before was removed with this update, causing the aforementioned problems. Especially for those who have the essentially useless 8 GB version of the R1 HD, which has only 3 GB or so available for Apps, this is not going to be good news.
I don't think a factory reset will help either (since it won't restore to the previous version of Android). The best that can be done is to save your important App data on the SD card by copying its contents onto a computer, then judiciously delete Apps that you don't need and reinstall them on the main memory and manually copy over the App data.
This is speculation, but it would be consistent with my own experiences on previous upgrades on earlier phones (the Blu Life One), where SD card usage for Apps became more and more problematic.
Or upgrade to a phone with more internal memory if you really can't find enough Apps to delete (I know that's not the point of this thread, but I think for the 8 GB R1 HD owners, that day will come sooner rather than later). Nowadays, 16 GB is the minimum for even light users, what with the the OS taking up the better part of 8 GB, and Apps like Whatsapp having no way to store their files, not even space-hogging media files, on the SD card.
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I think you're right about the SD card. I did the reset and while it fixed most of my problems I still can't access the sd card so it's useless.
I have had my 32GB (HC Class 10) mSD card corrupted each time updating/clean install newer R1 HD rom - making it unreadable & unusable, getting the prompt to reformat it again for use.
I run my most recent V8.5 modified stock Rom rooted and fairly lean, so there's enough space on the R1 HD (16GB) rom to keep all the Apps on it, without moving them over. Only storing documents, PDF's, photos/images and MP4's on it - using it as my backup/travel phone, etc.
Doing my setup now to prep for updating to latest V8.7 rom, debloating it & planning to run Xposed modules on it again, taking out my mSD card first and will re-insert once the new Rom is done & settled down, let's see how it go ... rather take a few extra minutes to do this instead of moving the contents around or copying them over again, etc.
I did the same thing and only use the sd card for storage for audio books and music files. I updated the phone the other night from the first version of the ROM to 8.7 and the only annoying thing I have noticed so far is that it no longer responds to "ok google" when the screen is off and the phone is being charged. It used to respond before the update. I don't know if this was a Blu-specific change or if it affected all versions of Android. Xposed works fine on 8.7 and I'm glad that I bought the donate version so I was able to save and restore all of the many changes I made to settings in Xposed. It's such great software that the guy deserves to make some money for all his work.
Moving apps to the sd card on previous phones has always been fragile and ended up having issues so I don't even attempt it any more. I just decided to keep only the stuff I really need on the phone.
Is there a way to use the SD as INTERNAL on the Tab 4 7.0 running Lollipop 5.1 (Sprint flavor, if it matters). It's off contract with no mobile data (WiFi only).
I don't mind trying to root it, but the only thing I really need is to increase the capacity of the 16Gb internal to include my SD (I keep running out of space). I also need to keep OTG working.
I suggest rooting and creating second partition on your sd card, then using app like Apps2SD(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd&hl=en) to link(move) apps to sd card.
(There are guides about this. And if you go with this use ext4 even if guide you found uses ext3)
The feature you're trying to have isn't available in lollipop,but it's available on marshmallow.
You can either look for a custom ROM on marshmallow or use link2sd on a lollipop ROM.
Hi, is there a specific ROM I can use, which enables me to use SD card as internal memory on my Samsung J530f on Android 9.0 preferably? I tried just one custom ROM and rooted the phone with Magix and and downloaded Root Essentials as well, but this is not working. I am looking for a working solution, not for a guess, how it might work... I tried the "maybe" options, now looking for a verified solution... Thanks!
Laxius777 said:
Hi, is there a specific ROM I can use, which enables me to use SD card as internal memory on my Samsung J530f on Android 9.0 preferably? I tried just one custom ROM and rooted the phone with Magix and and downloaded Root Essentials as well, but this is not working. I am looking for a working solution, not for a guess, how it might work... I tried the "maybe" options, now looking for a verified solution... Thanks!
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I don't prefer you to do that
Bc which speed your internal storage has is more than any sd card that you use!
This way works for older j5(such j5 2015 that have 15mb/s but i buy sd card with 35mb/s and set it as internal)you can measure your speed by specific apps
And about your problem
Most of aosp pie and oreo roms have this by default,just Google it
or if you use tw rom you can ask your dev to provide this for you(sorry l have different model so i don't have that)
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Speed is not an issue. Problem is, that currently i have to move every application manually to sd card, which after update moves back to internal memory. I leave for a week to mountains and am not on wifi and after my return 20apps needs to be updated. I update one, than jave to move it to sdcard as there is no space to upgrade the rest. Now imagine updating 20apps with manual intervention every fcking day. So of dourse i rather sacrifice speed and invest in a fast sd card than manually update very app every time. I was expecting someone to let me know a difect working rom, instead of googling, as on xda i was not able to find a suitable one.
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Speed is not an issue. Problem is, that currently i have to move every application manually to sd card, which after update moves back to internal memory. I leave for a week to mountains and am not on wifi and after my return 20apps needs to be updated. I update one, than jave to move it to sdcard as there is no space to upgrade the rest. Now imagine updating 20apps with manual intervention every fcking day. So of dourse i rather sacrifice speed and invest in a fast sd card than manually update very app every time. I was expecting someone to let me know a difect working rom, instead of googling, as on xda i was not able to find a suitable one.
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Every Oreo and pie rom has it. If you want a 7.1.1 stock rom port there is also an adoptable storage patch enabler zip.
So basically any rom from nougat upwards has it.