PSA- Finow and copyright violations

PSA- Finow and copyright violations - Other SmartWatches

Finow has seen fit to use the work of face creators without permission, credit, or compensation. Finow has even gone so far as to remove copyright notices, as well as logos and other identifying marks on some faces. Use of such faces helps sales and results in profiting from copyrighted works they do not have rights too. Even under a lose interpretation of copyright law, this is well outside of fair use and copyright. This is not the first time Finow has done this.
As recently as July 6th 2016 Finow was asking for permission to use faces even though they had already put the faces on their server again.
So to outline our experience with Finow;
Refuses to fix critical issues
EOLs devices they are still selling
Steals copyrighted works to promote their device
Removes copyright works after confronted
Asks to use copyrighted works while putting the works back on their server.
What we the got in return were empty promises of fixes and device support, and a couple of firmware zips.
So the question is, considering Finow's actions do we end our partnership with Finow and do what we have been doing since the beginning. That being trying to fix issues ourselves
Video of faces Finow has arbitrarily put on their server more than once

Iam surprised you didn't get a sore finger scrolling through all them lokifish marz ,but yes not good at all, last they could do is follow through with there promise of fixes.
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Don't think I'd stay friends with them in r/l....

Just a quick word about sending your clockskins out in collections or zip files.
There are some people around collecting the skins for vendors to use on their watches and make profit from these faces without a thought for the work that has gone into making them.
The bottom line is - if you don't care that a huge manufacturer is making money from your work without any recognition to you for your effort - then go ahead and hand them out.
Other wise leave them as single attachments to your posts and be wary of anyone with one or two posts who asks for a "collection of watch face files".
My advice - as we have just had hundreds STOLEN for corporate use - keep as single attachment and even digitally sign the work.
Personal use is one thing but corporate theft is very nasty indeed.
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Pablo11 makes a good point, but still this is a situation where you are "damned if you do and damned if you don't" even if you post the skins one at a time they could download them and use them anyway. The only possible solution is to digitally sign the watchfaces. The most remarkable thing i have noticed about finow is that they just "dont give a f**k" about the people who are buying their product. It doesn't seem like a serious company at all. So im guessing that most of us that bought the finow watches are pretty much up ****s creek without a paddle hahaha
Buuuuuuuuuttt for some happier news if you guys that are making the watches want to digitally sign the files that make up the watchfaces in my experience as a software developer we could do it in a couple of ways the easiest is probably signing them with simple self signed X.509 Certificates using OpenSSL. For the image files hiding the signature using steganography and in the xml file it would be added as a xml tag at the bottom. Its not a perfect solution but it should work for now
If there is some interest in an application that could do this i think i could probably put together a simple signing app in a mater of 1-3 days for you guys. The only reason i'm offering is since i don't want you guys to stop making the watchfaces, since i'm not that particularly artistically inclined.
Anyway as i said if u want it i can make it pretty fast and an app that stamps all the files with a digital signature is better than nothing right?

I posted info on the G+ community dealing with using steganography and embedding data in the meta when creating the face. There is legal recourse in the situation as well. Under China law, images are copyrighted upon creation without the need for formal registration and fair use doesn't exist there.

Update: i'll start working on an digital signature app for this as i talked about in the Previous post and put it up in a new thread once ive made a functioning alpha so you guys can start using it.

ado_dado said:
Update: i'll start working on an digital signature app for this as i talked about in the Previous post and put it up in a new thread once ive made a functioning alpha so you guys can start using it.
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Much appreciated. Thanks for your effort :good:

Hi again guys, as you probably already figured out the app for digitaly signing the watchfaces has stuc a litle bit. The issue is with the alpha channels (transparency) in the png files for the steganography part. The alpha channels get a bit messed up sometimes. But i have hopes that it shall be overcome i have been discussing the problem with a coleege and he gave me a couple of ideas that im gonna try out when i get home today so if they work then it can be uploaded here for you guys to try it out in a mater of a day or two. I appologize for saying it would be done in a couple of days i didnt account for unforseen problems as the alpha channels problem in my initial time estimat.

ado_dado said:
Hi again guys, as you probably already figured out the app for digitaly signing the watchfaces has stuc a litle bit. The issue is with the alpha channels (transparency) in the png files for the steganography part. The alpha channels get a bit messed up sometimes. But i have hopes that it shall be overcome i have been discussing the problem with a coleege and he gave me a couple of ideas that im gonna try out when i get home today so if they work then it can be uploaded here for you guys to try it out in a mater of a day or two. I appologize for saying it would be done in a couple of days i didnt account for unforseen problems as the alpha channels problem in my initial time estimat.
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All good - very happy that you are doing this :good::good:

[Tool][Windows] WDS
Hi guys, ive finally made an alpha of the signing application. It signs both xml and png files, the signature is based on an self signing certificate that is saved on the hdd as a file ".pfx" i choose this approach because then you can keep both the app and the certificate on an usb as backup. This is a link to the thread i started for the application here on xda forum. Im not sure i posted it in the right forum category but if i did not and an admin moves it then you can search for "[Tool][Windows] WDS".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sma...tches/tool-watchface-digital-signing-t3421872
Try it out and let me know in the thread of any improvement suggestions or bugs you guys find.

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sorry , i'm really apologize

what is it ?

yeah, I have seen it the whole day now, but I will not touch it until I now what it is and what it does
Scary stuff :wink:

It's Novosec Smartfilter 1.1, cracked, and it should not be here. Mods, could you take this off?

For anybody interested in testing this software and is unsure of the operator code for their service provider, which is needed to make this work, go to this link where you will find a list of provider codes.
http://www.techbitz.co.uk/mobile/secrets/servicecodes.htm
This is an interesting piece of software, it comes with little information but once it is working it does what it says. I tested it by putting my home number on block, tried ringing my xda from my (blocked) home number and got the response, "it has not been possible to connect your call, please try later", if my answer service was enabled it would have switched over to that. You can have lots of different profiles with diferent numbers blocked or allowed, you can also block unknown numbers, witheld numbers etc.

Its a great post and a great software i suggest keeping it plz. We need such posts...
thanks

Compleet list of Operator codes
If you try it on my phone it activates the the ignor button is that correct?
Looking for the compleet list look here:
http://www.funsms.net/service_provider_code_list.htm
:wink:
Greatings and keep up the good work 8)

Hey all...
this program looks like just wut I need (some old lady won't stop calling me)
Im in the US...and all i seen on the Service Provider List were PCS....I have Tmobile...is there a way for me to utilize this prog?
ThanX

Hi all,
It's nice s/w ... However there are 2 missing features:
1. How can you add a number not in your contact list ?
2. There is no context menu either in contact list or calls history like"Add to Smart Filter" .... CallerFirewall has this one.
one minor comment ... Magic Button actually close the application instead of only keep it in the back ground. I think the author should have developed it to use system thread instead of normal application thread.
The display of a blocked call as a missed call is great idea ... I thought I won't be informed in any way but found it useful ... at least to apologize later when I 'm reachable

Yeah does anyone have it working on TMobile US?

Actually got mine to work....just put in 1 in country code and left provider blank.

COPYRIGHT INFRIGEMENT
COPYRIGHT INFRIGEMENT
Dear webmasters of xda-developers.com,
:arrow: REMOVE THE FILE ABOVE IMMEDIATELY.
You haven't responded to any of our emails. This is your last chance. In case this file is not removed within the next 24 hours we have to report an offence to the police in order to close your site.
If you are going to provide any of our software (which is under copyright) in future we will proceed this necessary step without any further notice.
It is not our problem, that your users can upload anything. You have to ensure that your site will not infringe our copyrights.
In addition to this we will proceed against the user who uploaded this file.
Maik Stohn
NOVOSEC
[email protected]

Re: COPYRIGHT INFRIGEMENT
stohn said:
COPYRIGHT INFRIGEMENT
Dear webmasters of xda-developers.com,
:arrow: REMOVE THE FILE ABOVE IMMEDIATELY.
You haven't responded to any of our emails. This is your last chance. In case this file is not removed within the next 24 hours we have to report an offence to the police in order to close your site.
If you are going to provide any of our software (which is under copyright) in future we will proceed this necessary step without any further notice.
It is not our problem, that your users can upload anything. You have to ensure that your site will not infringe our copyrights.
In addition to this we will proceed against the user who uploaded this file.
Maik Stohn
NOVOSEC
[email protected]
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LOL!
Here is free speech forum!
If you don't like the forum, please go away! Or filing legal action again the India guy who posted the software!
Who cares your copyright!
Copyright means everybody has Right to Copy!

Hello,
FREE SPEECH, hopefully not a WAREZ SITE!
Maik Stohn
NOVOSEC

Maik - A PR genius
Message e-mailed to the brainiac:
Maik,
You aren't the brightest, obviously. Somebody posted your software to a site that has very targeted very significant traffic... of all people that carry an expensive device and are interested in software enhancements, incidentally the market you are trying to pursue.
Oh so let's see what your PR genuis does... (PR = public relations, an entirely foreign concept to you, no doubt):
So you go on there and post threatening messages. Instead of turning the challenge into an opportunity (ie. implementing better copy protection, releasing a new version, getting user feedback, etc) your minimal amount of cranial content came up with just posting threats. I had looked at your site and entertained the possibility of trying out your product but after reading that abnoxious post I decided otherwise.
I advocate against funding beligerent dimwits who go put threats on a community board that's supported by a bunch of guys at no cost and in their spare time. Again, in case the general tone of my message didn't convey my personal sentiments... I think you are a complete moron.
Good Day.

you tell him wayandrs :twisted:

The more we speak about it, the more it will be downloaded, any proper feedback on this software - any bugs :lol:

I'm very sorry about it, but now I'm realy sure.
The main intention of this board is to tell developers to kick the XDA/MDA platform.
I wonder what NAH6.com will say about hosting
XDA-(WAREZ)-DEVELOPERS.COM
Maik
to wayandrs:
You are right. I'm not the brightest. I should be glad that my software is here for free. It doesn't matter if I can't pay my bills. But I have to be glad that you take my work and use it. How can I use this scheme to build a house? Please teach me.

Stohn, believe it or not, it can be a good idea to have a program out that has no restrictions so that a potential user can fully evaluate it and discover its usefulness, if it is found to be useful I know many people that will then buy the full retail version because they can be sure that the software fits the purpose. Crippled and time limited software prevents this evaluation process. I know that some people will never pay for something they can get for free, that is a fact of life but there are also many that will pay because they are thankful that their tasks are made easier by the programmer/author of the software.

cruisin-thru said:
Stohn, believe it or not, it can be a good idea to have a program out that has no restrictions so that a potential user can fully evaluate it and discover its usefulness, if it is found to be useful I know many people that will then buy the full retail version because they can be sure that the software fits the purpose. Crippled and time limited software prevents this evaluation process. I know that some people will never pay for something they can get for free, that is a fact of life but there are also many that will pay because they are thankful that their tasks are made easier by the programmer/author of the software.
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Stohn,
I agree with, and respect your right to protect your intellectual property. My own livelihood depends upon it, as I develop web-based applications which are in use by thousands of people. However, the way you have publically handled this scenario is, IMHO, not the best way to have done it. Similar incidences that have occured in the past have taught me that privately contacting the parties concerned meets with positive results.
just take a look at PocketZenPhone to see what we mean by free software http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6162 - this is free and being developed/ improved daily (even hourly) by the developer (Zendrui) from the feedback the users are providing to him; of which, I am one (very happy one, as well)... I have little doubt that Zendrui will come to a point where he will provide features in a Pro version that we would gladly pay money for.
Perhaps providing a lite version would be a way of collecting useful feedback about your product, which can then be built into a Pro version. This has been done for years, and has likely been done so because it works; for the users and developer alike.
To use a collective term such as Warez, or even hint that we all are interested in this line of illegal activity is very dangerous for you, and opens you up to legal proceedings for slander. Sure, we are hackers, but not crackers, warez junkies or any other descriptive for which your comment was intended.
We meet here because we like the technology, we like to see how it works, what makes it tick, and to see how much further we can utilise the technology that we hold in our hands.

Phantasm Music Player

Updated the DBC so I've pulled the cab that was here. I don't want to post another cab since at least one person was way too confused to figure it out without the docs (5-pg PDF). But at least for that confused guy, the DBC is even simpler now.
... and then there were nine
The user guide is nice and short, too, only at 20pgs not as short as before, but it's got pretty pictures this time. Since I can't attach it on this very old post, I've made a new post and (maybe, if it works) put it there (the UG that is, since last time I didn't have the space).

i cant access to your homepage for more detail,
pls check it
thanks

Here is the homepage of the music player, if that is what you wanted:
http://phantasm.40th.com/

homepage doesn't work, do you have another link?

This is so not worthy of my time.
1. Build a website that actually works. With enough screenshots.
2. Make a trial version that doesn't make me want to kill the author. Seriously? Email 4 lines of number-garbage just to test it for few minutes? Look down from your tower of babel, there are people with lives down here.
3. The moment your database configuration tool (good luck explaining that to a average user) requested for moving and rebuilding my storage card, i just cancelled everything. You might want to make it more understandable. I guess it's for telling the software where the music is.
Edit: Here, i shot a quick video of the parts that i did manage to test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJa87Gsl1Y

Thanks for the video (I like the soundtrack! ), so I don't have to waste my... er... test the progam myself.

I love this video
Your hands speaks a lot of words in this video
*rotfl*
btw:the sound is lovely too

Add throw-scrolling via finger/thumb (ala Iphone) and album art scrolling to this app, and I'll pay your price.

respect for 40iplay..

LOL
Demens said:
This is so not worthy of my time.
1. Build a website that actually works. With enough screenshots.
2. Make a trial version that doesn't make me want to kill the author. Seriously? Email 4 lines of number-garbage just to test it for few minutes? Look down from your tower of babel, there are people with lives down here.
3. The moment your database configuration tool (good luck explaining that to a average user) requested for moving and rebuilding my storage card, i just cancelled everything. You might want to make it more understandable. I guess it's for telling the software where the music is.
Edit: Here, i shot a quick video of the parts that i did manage to test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJa87Gsl1Y
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YOUR VIDEO IS COOL mdr

SciFer said:
homepage doesn't work, do you have another link?
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It won't work - the vast majority of the world is banned from there. According to the developer, most people are plain criminals; this is why they're banned from his site.
I really recommend the following links for more info: http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=147371 , http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=148599 , http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=119752 and http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=140481

Menneisyys said:
It won't work - the vast majority of the world is banned from there. According to the developer, most people are plain criminals; this is why they're banned from his site.
I really recommend the following links for more info: http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=147371 , http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=148599 , http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=119752 and http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=140481
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Man... This guy is paranoid. Everybody is speaking great of his app but it seems nobody can download it (and pay for it...).

Here is the Demo version of this

Demens said:
This is so not worthy of my time.
1. Build a website that actually works. With enough screenshots.
2. Make a trial version that doesn't make me want to kill the author. Seriously? Email 4 lines of number-garbage just to test it for few minutes? Look down from your tower of babel, there are people with lives down here.
3. The moment your database configuration tool (good luck explaining that to a average user) requested for moving and rebuilding my storage card, i just cancelled everything. You might want to make it more understandable. I guess it's for telling the software where the music is.
Edit: Here, i shot a quick video of the parts that i did manage to test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJa87Gsl1Y
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It sucks that people come out with great products like this, but then get discouraged b/c people like you post crap like this. Did you really have a hard time figuring this out? Maybe get an iPhone instead of windows mobile. It took me all of 2 minutes to figure it out and catalog all of the music on my 8525. You ask this person to look down from their tower 'cuz people have a real life and cant copy and paste 4 lines into an email (5 seconds at most...learn how to use your device), yet you have time to post a video on YouTube and even add a musical background.
Get real. Ive never ever posted something bad in any forum, but after reading your reply, seeing your video, and then testing the thing out myself, i just couldnt keep my mouth shut cuz you're completely ridiculous and apparently dont know how to...hell i dont even know. Think? Problem solve? Read? All of the above i guess.

Demens said:
This is so not worthy of my time.
1. Build a website that actually works. With enough screenshots.
Edit: Here, i shot a quick video of the parts that i did manage to test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJa87Gsl1Y
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Oh, by the way, he actually posted a VIDEO, not just screenshots...if you can figure out how to download it and know how to use Windows Media Player on your desktop PC (you have used a PC before right?)

Demens said:
This is so not worthy of my time.
1. Build a website that actually works. With enough screenshots.
2. Make a trial version that doesn't make me want to kill the author. Seriously? Email 4 lines of number-garbage just to test it for few minutes? Look down from your tower of babel, there are people with lives down here.
3. The moment your database configuration tool (good luck explaining that to a average user) requested for moving and rebuilding my storage card, i just cancelled everything. You might want to make it more understandable. I guess it's for telling the software where the music is.
Edit: Here, i shot a quick video of the parts that i did manage to test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJa87Gsl1Y
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Thanks. Saved me lots of time on trying that piece of crap.

please, DO NOT say anything bad about that man.
like i said - he made BEST music player for ppc's, i am amazed by his 40tiplay.
i think its very original person, but geez, do you always need beverly hills 90210 fockin sweetness?
respect, 40th Floor, trust me, you are able to make amazing things.
just stop looking for Touch era users... i think you are just not known here(its second or even third, sad era of ppc's now..;/).
btw, contact me, i want to buy 40tiplay..need info how to do that.
regardless of above: uh, is that presented program(phantasm) yours or someones else , i am confused a bit.

nothin said:
please, DO NOT say anything bad about that man.
like i said - he made BEST music player for ppc's, i am amazed by his 40tiplay.
i think its very original person, but geez, do you always need beverly hills 90210 fockin sweetness?
respect, 40th Floor, trust me, you are able to make amazing things.
just stop looking for Touch era users... i think you are just not known here(its second or even third, sad era of ppc's now..;/).
btw, contact me, i want to buy 40tiplay..need info how to do that.
regardless of above: uh, is that presented program(phantasm) yours or someones else , i am confused a bit.
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Actually, we're in the same boat. If you read my past generic multimedia-related articles, I've recommended iPlay the most because of its 1, excellent CPU usage 2, groundbreaking reverb effect, which really enhances ALL kinds of content.
However, the developer, it seems, considers everyone outside the U.S. criminal... he hasn't even answered my mails where I've told him I'd pay for his stuff to be reviewed and I'm not asking for a freebie (I've purchased the full Pocket Music, both the PPC and the Symbian versions of CorePlayer and Nero Mobile Digital so that I can review them without always asking for review copies. (Yeah, it was too late when I noticed Pocket Music actually had a full-working trial version. No problem, at least I contributed to the player's future development.)) ...
All in all, I'm absolutely sure you won't be able to actually buy a copy of his stuff either - if you can't access his homepage (because, in most cases, you're outside the U.S.), then, you're a criminal. Just like me and a lot of AximSite folks. According to him, of course.

Tested the demo - indeed it's even more crippled than past iPlay 5 demos. You MUST request a trial code from their homepage in order to even make it run (to pass the initial screen - if you just close it, then, any menu operation will result in an immediate exit). This completely sucks.
All in all, it's a no-go for the Multimedia Bible either.

benjammin said:
It sucks that people come out with great products like this, but then get discouraged b/c people like you post crap like this. Did you really have a hard time figuring this out? Maybe get an iPhone instead of windows mobile. It took me all of 2 minutes to figure it out and catalog all of the music on my 8525. You ask this person to look down from their tower 'cuz people have a real life and cant copy and paste 4 lines into an email (5 seconds at most...learn how to use your device), yet you have time to post a video on YouTube and even add a musical background.
Get real. Ive never ever posted something bad in any forum, but after reading your reply, seeing your video, and then testing the thing out myself, i just couldnt keep my mouth shut cuz you're completely ridiculous and apparently dont know how to...hell i dont even know. Think? Problem solve? Read? All of the above i guess.
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So I'm thinking you're either a mindless fanboy or probably the author himself using a fake username. It doesn't matter how good your software is, dude. You're never going to make any money off it because the simple fact of the matter is that you're a douche.
By the way:
PHANTSM - n. - Something apparently seen but having no physical reality
What an appropriate name for your product.

{TOUCH-INNOVATION.com}Touch friendly programs for windows mobile! NEW Mob site + MORE

Okay you all know i've been working on this website for a few weeks now. This means staying up till 3-4am in the morning, coding non-stop. By the fall of this week, it will be released to the public as a beta for 1-2 days where bugs can be submitted so I can fix it up, to make it a pleasant experience for the user!
Okay so edit again And yes IT's ALL FINISHED!!!!!!
All that needs to be done is to add categorys and content via the admin panel, but i need people to help me out (its a big job)! If you don't want to help all the time, at least help me get through the forums so after i've seen them all I can keep on top, because atm i'm under a huge pile of stree (see what I mean)
Website is here: www.touch-innovation.com
See latest post for the new update

http://www.sprinttouch.net/

Thanks for letting me know about that ,
But it's not very advanced, and doesn't have a lot of stuff.

Napbree said:
Hi,
First of all, I am a website designer & coder.
I have the biggest urge to make a website, dedicated for the HTC Touch, and provide people with the best registry hacks/tweaks. The good programs - and link back here to download them. Etc.
I'd provide a forum for support on all of this as well. I was wondering, who would use this site, and support it? And, is there a website like this all ready?
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If this website did get alot of support, and became popular, I would expand it further too other HTC devices
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What would the website contain?
- Home cooked ROMS
- Original ROMS
- Games
- Programs
- Registry Hacks
- Themes
(if you have any suggestions please let me know)
Thanks
Nathan
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What better site than the one your on?!?!?!?!?

This is a awesome site, it's just to cluttered, if you see what I mean. You have to file through them all to find things you want, and then when you find something you need, you dont know if it's the latest version etc.
And this isn't the only good site, there's ipmart etc. and this is my way of trying to merge them all together
It will have a way to add your own stuff, so it's like the users own little admin panel, except everything they do, has to be rectified by the admin
So I just thought I'd simplify the process.

Bump... Surely more people want this?!

If you look at the number of members and posts at SprintTouch.net, I'd say there isn't much interest in a stand alone site. By comparison, SprintMogul.net dwarfs st.n. Granted, the Mogul has been out longer than the Touch, for Sprint anyway. Phones come and go all the time, so I'd think you'd be better off creating a site that's manufacturer or OS specific.

Well that's because you have to register. The site I will make, you won't have to register. It will be simple and quick

iam in
heyyyy whats up man
i like the idea i was thinkin the same open website and i guess we can make good work i work programmer and i have 2 desingers and one for adobe and the 2nd flash
any way i would like to say iam with u from nw but the xda is the best and will stay the best if u dont mind gimme ur yahoo id and ill contact with you .

Hi,
It's good to know that lot's of people have wanted to do this It means there's a lot of interest. I have contacted you
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So far, I have dont the main page - everything's going to be dynamic, and fetched from the mysql db.
It's coming along nicely I think it should be done within 1-2weeks - if I put my mind to it!

you're a bit too late)) http://xda-developers.com

Does no-one read my first post
I am compiling a site, of everything here, and other forums. It is somewhere where you dont have to register. And you dont have to go through lots of messy threads
In the long run it will be better :0

Napbree said:
Does no-one read my first post
I am compiling a site, of everything here, and other forums. It is somewhere where you dont have to register. And you dont have to go through lots of messy threads
In the long run it will be better :0
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Lets go. Sounds good.

UPDATE:
So far, I have done the basics - news system, categorys, sub categorys, descriptions, and download/view details page. I am currently going over everything now, to implement more features etc.
It's coming along really nicely!

you say that you dont need to register to use the site, but if you want to download from say Xda-Developers, then you need a username and password!

Yeah I have that one covered as well!
Usually, if someone post's something, they supply a download link to say fileshare, I can provide that. And if I am allowed, and I give proper credit to this site, surely I can upload myself, and give a download link?

Napbree said:
Yeah I have that one covered as well!
Usually, if someone post's something, they supply a download link to say fileshare, I can provide that. And if I am allowed, and I give proper credit to this site, surely I can upload myself, and give a download link?
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How would you make sure the version you are offering is the most current one?

Well, I would keep everything updated, I roam these forums everyday, so I won't miss anything. And If the people who said they want o help are commited they can help.
I might create a php bot, to search for the highest number, shouldn't be too hard

So far, pretty much everything that the user see's is finished! I am just tweaking the rating system - for now, no comments.
But I still have the admin panel to do, but I can still put the website live and add everything via phpmyadmin. I don't like to keep people waiting.
If anyone has donations, then donating to my paypal would be great, and I will add you to my affliates which means more visits to your website
My paypal is booboonathan[[(at)]]gmail[[(dot)]]com (remove the ( and [[ )
Thanks!

Okay - I had to postpone due to family issues and such, and well i've come back but I don't know if I should waist the rest of my time doing this website. Its practically done - Minus a design and just need to implement a few cool effects such as ratings, comments and screesnhots etc.
I have big planns for this website (no wait, rephrase. I had big plans) But I need to know if any of you would use this website? It will be a simple layout, and much easier to get access too.. It will also have news feeds to it's far easier to be able too check if something has been updated.
Hasn't that ever annoyed you? When you see a cool program and you isntall it but you don't realise it's had an update - and you have to go routing through the messy forums (sorry, but it's true - this is a forum, they're all messy) and look for the latest one?!
Either way please tell me if you would use it, it would be free of course
Thanks

Looking for your help guys, Transferring ownership for free!

Hey,
As most of you know, I am the sole owner of touch innovation. I have done alot to this website (and I still have more to come). THe problem is, over the next half year I have alot of work ahead of me, that affects my future. But I don't particulary want to go into it.
I want someone that can look after and keep the site going for up to 6 months. I know you're thinking "What's the point in this, what do I get out of it?". Well, you get experience.
You'll get a weekly number of emails, submissions etc from people that use the website, you can monitor these, and help out there questions.
You can add programs from here etc.
Why Am I asking this?
I have spent months and months of coding this website (considering the website is only 4 months old, it's a lot of work). And I've hit a niche in the market, people want a website like this, and I am supplying them with one, but I need it to be updated while I am gone. Maybe some marketing (aka advertising) as well, so everything is running peak, and more users are coming.
This is a non-profit organisation, I make no money out of it.
I will pay the guy at the end (maybe), dependant on how much they have done to the website. And I want them to take it upon them self to make any adjustments. The site will potentially be yours for the half year (I will be checking up on it, and If there are some changes that are iffy, I will contact you about it).
It's good experience, and maybe helping me + the community out for a while.
Thanks guys,
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Okay, another idea, A team of people can request to be part of the team, and keep the site running well and keep it updated for the time I'm gone
Touch Innovation team (to-be's):
nir36
jackkkkk
Kenshino
jdiperla
AkshayGenius
Hannigan174
churka
Thanks for anyone who helps in advance, I will be up for giving a little price tag at the end, dependant on whether they've applied effort to maintain the site

No one?

I think it would be awesome to have this opportunity but I have no experience in html coding. Just the basics.

I thought I had replied to this :/
Erm, you dont need any html coding skills. You just need to know how to keep a website updated (using xda, and others) using my simple but easy and clever admin panel. Also advertise to keep hits up etc.

Napbree, I would gladly take this website, but i'm MEGAbusy with studies and work.
I suggest that instead of granting this website to another "sole" person, you create users in your admin panel and grant them to a few people who will keep it updated. I build websites and I can tell you that there's no way i'd be able to handle even one of those i've built, myself.
If a group of people are willing to help, I will be one of them.
I'll also try creating commercial opportunities for the website - profitwise.

I'd usually say "This is not the place to post these kind of posts.. use the Q&A section".. which comes naturally nowadays..
but considering the importance of this... I think we need this thread bumped up until you manage to get what you wish for.

Yes, that would be great. You've given me an awesome idea. A team of people that can mointor and keep the site up and running well, and content updated etc.
I'll start making a list of people who want to become part of the team
And if you could get a commercial opportunity, that would be amazing. I'd be up for selling it as well (maybe). It's just I want to keep the site of my hands for a while. Because my dad died only a week ago, and i'm entering a state of depression, and I need to get out into the world and keep myself busy.
Thanks

Someone?
I really like this site, and would like to see it continue.
Nathan has done such great job on developing this site, it would be shame, to see it gone waste!
So anyone who has motivation and some time to take this site under ownership, please contact nathan!
Ps. I'm one of admins of this site, and can tell you that it's really easy to update site, because of the nathan's clever admin panel. I would do it myself if i had the time, but my studies and and other projects takes too much time.
All friends of this site, let's get this thread bumped until we get some help for nathan

Firstly.. i'm sorry. Be well.
Secondly, I have some connections.. I can't promise anything but i might be able to get some advertisments going.. we'll see how it goes.
Also, if manage to get some time off .. sometime.. I'll create flash banners and put them up.
COUNT ME IN.

Thank you allevant
And nir36 thanks again, that would be mucho appreciated! very generous

I'm willing to help...
But I'm not sure if I got any use thou as I got no tech experiences or running a website.
My best experience is being a gaming forum moderator and basic computer/pda knowledge.
But, if you think I'm a good canadiate please let me know as I would like to help in anyways.

You don't really need experience in running a site. As long as you can spend some time on the admin panel to add content, it's all good.
I've added you to the to-be team , hope you don't mind.

Thanks! future for the site is looking brighter this is just a bump post

I'll bump your bump

Dear Napbree,
I am an Application Consultant and actually my job consists of making corporate websites for government entities.
Websites I've done include (not exhaustive list)
http://www.infocommsingapore.sg/industry/
and
http://www.infocommsingapore.sg/games
Same domain but totally different things.
So do count me in if you need help running the website.
I am certified in JAVA (Have Sun Certified Java Programmer and Developer certs) and am proficient in both JSP and Applications.
Currently I am writing CMS based websites using PHP, CSS, HTML and Javascript.
I can definitely write some code to add more cool functionality to your website

I'll bumb your bumbing my bumb

Hi Kenshino,
Application consultant heh, nice!
At the moment, I will be able to code up new sections for the site, for example, the new update that will come sooner or later (when I have time to finish it), has live submission, which means users can instantly add applications, as long as it applies with a few of my automated checks.
But if you have any ideas, and you want to code them up, you can definately! But I wouldn't be able to give source code, but you can code it seperately and then I can incoroporate it nicely
Thank you lots for your interest
Nathan

Hey, I volunteer too. I am a PC administrator and had had success in hosting my own sites in the past as well as prior administration duties to games like http://www.swcombine.com

Sounds great
Added you to the list, I will contact you all in the future, once I have a nice big list of contributors
Thanks

let's keep this on top.

[Q] I've Put My App On Kickstarter... Need Genius Marketing Ideas, Help Please!!

Hey guys, long time lurker here...
So basically I'm building a new Android launcher that's designed to make Android more productive and more capable of multitasking... and I decided to do something different and try putting it on Kickstarter to raise some funds! I thought that basically this would prove there was a market for the app, it would build some interest and it would help me to afford to work with other designers and developers. I want to add support for MSOffice file formats but that's something I'm going to have to outsource...
The link to the Kickstarter project can be found here: kickstarter.com/projects/983549908/mulit-window-desktop-launcher-for-android - sorry it's not a live link, I'm new see
So far it's not going well, I asked for £8,000 (it's too much in retrospect, but after tax and Kickstarter/Amazon take their cut it will be a lot less) and so far I have £138 pledged with 23 days to go.
I've sent out countless press releases - even to editors who know me have published things of mine in the past - and had no response. I've tried paying for AdSense and that was a waste of money, and I've posted through every social media outlet I can find... About to try Instagram :-/
My best success so far was posting in the Basic4Android forum where I'm an active member - that's the secret I think, knowing lots of people online and being active. That's my advice to anyone else thinking of doing this! Get active on forums and get known, wish I'd done that more!
Now obviously I'd appreciate any helps with pledges but what I really want is your ideas for marketing and a critique of my video and project page (I think there are areas for improvement). I think that if I could get just one article onto a well-read site then it could potentially snowball... but how can I get noticed?
Has anyone else tried using Kickstarter for an app?
Thanks a lot for your help in advice guys, and I hope you find this useful too. Maybe we can work out what I'm doing wrong and then we've learned how not to raise money for an Android app... :laugh:
I've attached a picture of the app by the way for those interested...

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