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Hi all Xperia 2011 users we will some lose cm support. We maybe won't get update to 4.2 eaven.
So all good developer buying new phones. I think it time to make own team of developers to make cm roms for 4.2 plus...
What you think?
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So true n1kolaa. I've seen your request on Twitter for porting cm roms by nAa, whose work is actually incredible. I came from x10 mini pro community and I was one of the testers of minicm roms. We have two options as of now.
1) request devs like nobodyatall to start supporting our devices as they are pretty similar. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Arc, arcS, pro)
2) form a new team for ourselves and start developing with help from recognized devs.
Our forms lack recognized developers and I dont understand why. The community I came from which is x10 mini pro is still getting huge support and it might even get a fully working 4.2 where as 2011 Xperia's are struggling to get it. No offense to anyone.
On otherside lets hope we get 4.2 port by fxp :thumbup:
Cheers.
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We should get XDA mods to merge Xperia Ray, Arc, Arc S, Neo and Neo V forums. Those devices are very similar, and it will be much easier to swap ideas and new features.

sdk16420 said:
We should get XDA mods to merge Xperia Ray, Arc, Arc S, Neo and Neo V forums. Those devices are very similar, and it will be much easier to swap ideas and new features.
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sdk16420 said:
We should get XDA mods to merge Xperia Ray, Arc, Arc S, Neo and Neo V forums. Those devices are very similar, and it will be much easier to swap ideas and new features.
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I agree. It's working out well with the NXT phones so I wouldn't see why it wouldn't work here.
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Nothing is endless. Don't expect all the developers to provide lifetime support for some old device.

Someguyfromhell said:
Nothing is endless. Don't expect all the developers to provide lifetime support for some old device.
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Very true. I've pointed this out in the thread with the jelly bean petition. Nothing lasts forever as you said. Everyone wants to upgrade to newer phones with newer technologies and whatnot. There's a reason why the X10 didn't get ICS. Other than probably a couple hardware limitations, Sony wants people to move onto bigger and better devices. It's also a marketing strategy. If they weren't releasing phones every year then they would have the time to upgrade older devices as that would be their focus.
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DdcCabuslay said:
Very true. I've pointed this out in the thread with the jelly bean petition. Nothing lasts forever as you said. Everyone wants to upgrade to newer phones with newer technologies and whatnot. There's a reason why the X10 didn't get ICS. Other than probably a couple hardware limitations, Sony wants people to move onto bigger and better devices. It's also a marketing strategy. If they weren't releasing phones every year then they would have the time to upgrade older devices as that would be their focus.
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That's totally unrelated. FXP doesn't earn money if Sony sells more 2012 phones...
Developer support ends because there aren't enough users to justify the time spent working on ROM's. As the FXP team pointed out elsewhere, they would probably have to create an 3.x kernel from scratch, which will take 6 months. In 6 months, the number of people using their 2011 Xperia daily will probably be half or less of that today. I notice activity on the forum declining rapidly since this summer.

sdk16420 said:
That's totally unrelated. FXP doesn't earn money if Sony sells more 2012 phones...
Developer support ends because there aren't enough users to justify the time spent working on ROM's. As the FXP team pointed out elsewhere, they would probably have to create an 3.x kernel from scratch, which will take 6 months. In 6 months, the number of people using their 2011 Xperia daily will probably be half or less of that today. I notice activity on the forum declining rapidly since this summer.
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Well I thought I would put my opinion there. I wasn't talking about FXP and devs but more about Sony in general
Sorry
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Sorry, nothing against that, in fact I agree with you, but Ithought you were talking about FXP, it seemed a bit unrelated

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Have you put this forward to the relevant People?, if not come support it HERE
EDIT: Has you may have already seen...
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We are working on a redesign of all Sony forums currently, and anticipate being done within a few weeks.
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...so will be interesting to see what they come up with.

I've sent a PM to diestarbucks 2 days ago, he has forwarded it to the relevant mods. Awaiting reply.

I'm up for it, anything to make it last just a little longer

BTW, maybe it would be better to add Neo L development to Xperia Play forums. Neo L is kind of a weird add-on now, as ROM's for Neo are not simply compatible with it.
New version.

sdk16420 said:
New version.
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That's better. :good:

Sony's update regularity...

Basically, I change phones every year. When a new iPhone comes out, I get that but when it's a 'S' year, I get an Android instead. It's an 'S' year and I am considering the Z5 Premium. Before my iPhone 6, I was using the LG G2...
I know it's up to the vendors to release the latest updates and the Nexus line always have the latest Android. My question is, how is Sony in this regard? Do they generally take a long time to push out a new update? Or are they normally quite quick?

They update their products regularly. As i recall after initial release if there's a bug it only takes 2 to 3 mos to update problem after that new version of android released i think bet 3 to 6 mos. But great stability issues if ever theres a bug for new version 1 to 3 mos it will addressed by sony. As of now z series updated up to this date. This is based on experience on sony sony user since xperia s.
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I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates.
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Updates to sony is about 2 months late than samsung
But it is very stable.
Sony devices are well supported by custom rom developers.
If we considered branded phones sony is only 2nd to Motorola in terms of custom rom development.
I mean if we consider all sony phones.
Not only Z series

I think that Sony updates quite well. And what is great about them is that they really make sure that the update is stable.
I remember the whole Lollipop fiasco last december when Nexus and Samsung got their latest update and it was just one big mess.

Well i dont know for others but sony update was a very stable update what's the point of updating fast and regularly if there are so many issues and problem if they can do one time fix.
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sacredsoul said:
Basically, I change phones every year. When a new iPhone comes out, I get that but when it's a 'S' year, I get an Android instead. It's an 'S' year and I am considering the Z5 Premium. Before my iPhone 6, I was using the LG G2...
I know it's up to the vendors to release the latest updates and the Nexus line always have the latest Android. My question is, how is Sony in this regard? Do they generally take a long time to push out a new update? Or are they normally quite quick?
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Sony are definitely a growing brand, listening to consumers etc.
They're community testing the marshmallow concept build on the Z3 atm which is a novel approach as only Microsoft have done similar in the past.
I think updates will be more regular.
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Jygar said:
Sony are definitely a growing brand, listening to consumers etc.
They're community testing the marshmallow concept build on the Z3 atm which is a novel approach as only Microsoft have done similar in the past.
I think updates will be more regular.
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Ah a bit late now. Already got the Nexus 6P

sacredsoul said:
Ah a bit late now. Already got the Nexus 6P
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Hope you have better luck than me, I had 3 all of them with screen or build issues.
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Jygar said:
Hope you have better luck than me, I had 3 all of them with screen or build issues.
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Oh mine seems all good. Of course, I didn't go and see every nook and cranny to make sure it's 100% perfect though. But the major parts all look fine to me.

alhadee12 said:
I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates.
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I don't own a Z3 but I'm pretty sure it has gotten a LOT of updates and more to come.

itsjustJOH said:
I don't own a Z3 but I'm pretty sure it has gotten a LOT of updates and more to come.
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The phone didn't get many updates and when it did they dealt solely with Sony and not so much Android based updates.
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alhadee12 said:
The phone didn't get many updates and when it did they dealt solely with Sony and not so much Android based updates.
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The phone came out with 4.4, got updated to 5.0 and then 5.1. It's also gonna get 6.0. It has all the Android versions since 4.4. The rest are minor updates. I don't get how much is "many" for you.
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The phone came out with 4.4, got updated to 5.0 and then 5.1. It's also gonna get 6.0. It has all the Android versions since 4.4. The rest are minor updates. I don't get how much is "many" for you.
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Honestly, it doesn't matter at this point I sold the phone. Also, the phone I had through T-Mobile never received the 5.0 update before I sold it. At that point "many" turns out to be a lot based upon your post.
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alhadee12 said:
Honestly, it doesn't matter at this point I sold the phone. Also, the phone I had through T-Mobile never received the 5.0 update before I sold it. At that point "many" turns out to be a lot based upon your post.
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Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.

itsjustJOH said:
Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.
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I'm not blaming anyone and I'm not sure how you concluded I was blaming Sony. I made the conscious choice to purchase the phone and made the same choice to sell it. If I ever decide to purchase on again, I'll get the unlocked version.
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Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.
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This was my original post, "I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates."
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alhadee12 said:
This was my original post, "I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates."
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You just implied that the updates on Sony phones "are so far behind" because of your experience with one phone that was apparently carrier locked but you did not state it on your original post. Even if you did not mean that, the construction of your sentences does otherwise.

itsjustJOH said:
You just implied that the updates on Sony phones "are so far behind" because of your experience with one phone that was apparently carrier locked but you did not state it on your original post. Even if you did not mean that, the construction of your sentences does otherwise.
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I didn't imply anything, you assumed nor did I say Sony phones. I referred to the phone I had and my sentence structure if off in your opinion should lead to questions not sweeping characterization of my statement. What's your point and are you taking the position to be the defender of all things Sony? [emoji23]
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alhadee12 said:
I didn't imply anything, you assumed nor did I say Sony phones. I referred to the phone I had and my sentence structure if off in your opinion should lead to questions not sweeping characterization of my statement. What's your point and are you taking the position to be the defender of all things Sony? [emoji23]
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My point is you that wrote something that seemed something negative about Sony's updates because of your experience of one phone (that is again apparently carrier locked) which should not be because of how much they update their phones, I proved it and that's when you said it's from T-Mobile, you defended your original post and I merely pointed out how it's because of your sentence structure that made it seem like you were stereotyping all Sony phones. I reacted because I know how many updates the Z3 has received despite not owning it, and, yes, I'm a Sony fan.

itsjustJOH said:
My point is you that wrote something that seemed something negative about Sony's updates because of your experience of one phone (that is again apparently carrier locked) which should not be because of how much they update their phones, I proved it and that's when you said it's from T-Mobile, you defended your original post and I merely pointed out how it's because of your sentence structure that made it seem like you were stereotyping all Sony phones. I reacted because I know how many updates the Z3 has received despite not owning it, and, yes, I'm a Sony fan.
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It's not a negative post, its simply a fact as it relates to the phone I purchased. Your point is correct when you started, "because of your experience". Your proof is that the carrier version doesn't receive updates like the international version.
So, to that point my position is correct to have sold the phone. It's not that I dislike Sony. You have to stop assuming and start asking questions for clarification before defending a position that needs no defense.
We're all entitled to our opinions based upon the products we purchase. Also, if you don't own one please don't assume all models receive updates. Just a thought. [emoji56]
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ZE551ML and ZE550ML are currently being tested for Android M. It's not yet on the announcement board of zentalk but a moderator categorically replied to my thread in zentalk and confirmed that it's already starting the development stage. (see attached photo)
Link : http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=51072&extra=page=1&mobile=2

@ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks

I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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High expectations, high disappointment. Just like 5.1
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iancjc said:
I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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Don't wanna be too optimistic and rude at the same time. But isn't testing it on those devices implies plan to implement. Otherwise why test if there is no clear plan of development? Again am not being too optimistic just looking at all possible angles.
Just my two cents.

I was trying to analyze the message ARP_ASUS said, if they are testing it on ZE551ML and ZE550ML. Then definitely there is a source code available and optimize already for x86 device.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but u can't test something on a x86 device if you don't have a Android M source code specifically for x86 right?

Asus is not even capable of giving us 5.1. Forget about 6.0.
Just my humble opinion.
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Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!

Level99 said:
Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!
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Yep and am pretty sure it's gonna be wild and filled with rants and complaints for the next few days in zentalk once the first gen or pre Zenfone 2 subgroup people read this and starts to sink in their heads. Lol
Not a clear road map as posted. But hey something is still better than being blind as to where zf2 is heading right??

nc and all but we don't even know if they will ever release it, just like that 5.1

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ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks
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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.

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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.
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Thanks, Keep us posted if something comes up.

I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.

While I would fully expect Asus to provide an update to at least 5.1, or even 6.0, I believe in you get what you pay for. For a $300 phone, you get good bang for your buck, and I appreciate Asus having a rep stay active in the forum, Reddit, and ZenTalk.
There's nothing that says Asus has to provide this update, since it's not a Nexus device, and looking at models like Samsung LG, or Moto, it takes months to get their phones to what is or was the current iteration of Android.
I did however stick my faith in Asus for what I think is a good product, and this will be the determining factor as to if I ever purchase anything Asus again. I think a lot of people feel that way. We could have gone the Moto or even OPO route, but when went with Asus. It's up to them to keep us happy and coming back.

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I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.
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I saw it being sold on Amazon.co.uk, the ww version that was being shipped from Amazon UK, which is great if you have a problem and need to return it. Though I would suggest getting the US version if you are set on getting this phone, because it has more bands unlocked, which I will admit their bands are a huge plus on this phone. Keep in mind that the second sim only works on 2G voice/text and data is software blocked.

Hoping for fixing battery drain Android OS crap with 6.0
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To think about it i dont have so much hope in asus
But can you like flash a dev 6.0 rom or something like that from dev for zen

To be fair, Asus is still better than the likes of Oppo - many of their phones are still stuck on KitKat.

Android M is near i can sense it!!(atleast for beta testers)

Android marshmallow update is going to be the life saviour for most of us, who ain't using cm 13, nor 12 ...... Well i am using echoe rom
But the main thing is that lollipop was not good and ruined the experience for most of us but now we will have marshmallow out and after a long wait we will get it in our hands within a month or so
Well there is a leak for marshmalow 6.0.1 running in zenfone 2 laser and soon zenfone 2 will also get it as it is their flagship. Hopefully the leak is true, and it looks like it's one of their employees who has leaked it.(he has the rog laptop ??)
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This variant came with Snapdragon 615, and about Snapdragon, a lot of devices are on Marshmallow.
ZE550/551 still waiting for M. I think they will skip Feb security update and give us M with March/April update.

You guys are dreaming you won't see M for at least another year, ASUS can't even get past 5.0, out devices will all be dead before they figure out m
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jimchee said:
You guys are dreaming you won't see M for at least another year, ASUS can't even get past 5.0, out devices will all be dead before they figure out m
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LOL Wanna bet?

Glad to know that ASUS is really working on providing Android 6.0.1 , but shouldn't Asus's first priority be the Intel variants (Ze551ml/Ze550ml) than the Snapdragon ones?

Yeah I look forward to the big M but if it doesnt come I'm just fine with L. Asus has been really good with their updates, not just firmwares but also updating our apps.

Echoe rom by far was the best stock based rom , so yeah even i can wait a month or couple for a good marshmallow build , hope it is gelatin free

Siddk007 said:
Glad to know that ASUS is really working on providing Android 6.0.1 , but shouldn't Asus's first priority be the Intel variants (Ze551ml/Ze550ml) than the Snapdragon ones?
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Snapdragon varient is easier since everyone and their brother has some snapdragon varient. Easier to adapt.

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Snapdragon varient is easier since everyone and their brother has some snapdragon varient. Easier to adapt.
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You forgot arm architecture its the thing google prefers more than anything

Beware click bait on these "leaks" this screen cap seems photoshoped.

jimchee said:
You guys are dreaming you won't see M for at least another year, ASUS can't even get past 5.0, out devices will all be dead before they figure out m
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ASUS has been very good withvupdate. While the update takes longer time to launch, bit in the end we will get it. So patience is the key. Everybody should know this before the buy an intel based chipset.

Gabagabby said:
ASUS has been very good withvupdate. While the update takes longer time to launch, bit in the end we will get it. So patience is the key. Everybody should know this before the buy an intel based chipset.
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Not for my case, my phone ZE500CL is left out, and it's not even 1 year old

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ASUS has been very good withvupdate. While the update takes longer time to launch, bit in the end we will get it. So patience is the key. Everybody should know this before the buy an intel based chipset.
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The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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jimchee said:
The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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Well, ASUS is not going to take that much of time to release MM for our device. It might be release next month or after they'll launch Zenfone 3.

Ritik173317 said:
Well, ASUS is not going to take that much of time to release MM for our device. It might be release next month or after they'll launch Zenfone 3.
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Your dreamin, they are just starting beta testing and that'll take them 6 months to a year or more, he'll they haven't even mastered 5.1 to this point so figuring out 6 is likely beyond their skill level, but hey you can dream..... good luck with that.
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Ritik173317 said:
Well, ASUS is not going to take that much of time to release MM for our device. It might be release next month or after they'll launch Zenfone 3.
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Well hope the best and wait for MM update to be bug - free or else with new,better insipred(from CM,Miui) features
I do not want any gimmicks all i want is aome smart and innovative stuff , like taking screenshot on pressing recent key is innovative af (i think even cm does not has that option in long press, i used only cm12 in s3 , so i have not used it much)
I love asus for what they are doing and i do not care for upgrades if some one has made a stock based awesome rom(echoe rom)
Asus is love, intel is what i do not love(for gpu, development, no image enhancement and no battery effeciency)(820 is best this year)

jimchee said:
Your dreamin, they are just starting beta testing and that'll take them 6 months to a year or more, he'll they haven't even mastered 5.1 to this point so figuring out 6 is likely beyond their skill level, but hey you can dream..... good luck with that.
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You should understand it's not easy to make roms and being new to it , it takes times to adjust , they are giving their best to give us the best MM update and with ironed out bugs too , hopefully it will happen , but i doubt intel for its efficiency and without using good kernels its far to get good battery and awesome performance together (you have to loose one generally but not in good kernels)
Its not about mastering 5.1 also , its about developing good base for future updates and with poor planing and development it will be hard , they should divide their team and do kick-ass development.
Do not be a jerk , by *****ing them for their only flaw, slow updates.
Intel is good except for weak gpu , lack of elements like enhanced imaging , battery or even sound quality ,these all are found in QC and MTK but often priced higher than intel

jimchee said:
The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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From kitkat to lollipop, yes what most people know it was only cosmetic. Not for me tough. But from 32 to 64 bit? Not really. Itll optimize zenfone 2 and might unlock the power within it. I cant say much about asus wouldnt release android M, well.. the beta is out on march. Lookin at the history, when asus releases beta, itll be followed with the actual thing. Its just a matter of time really. Asus isnt the fastest in rolling update, but it is a definite that update will come. You are the fast - update kinda person i suppose. Well if its what u want, you are right. You better stick with nexus.
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android lover 2000 said:
You should understand it's not easy to make roms and being new to it , it takes times to adjust , they are giving their best to give us the best MM update and with ironed out bugs too , hopefully it will happen , but i doubt intel for its efficiency and without using good kernels its far to get good battery and awesome performance together (you have to loose one generally but not in good kernels)
Its not about mastering 5.1 also , its about developing good base for future updates and with poor planing and development it will be hard , they should divide their team and do kick-ass development.
Do not be a jerk , by *****ing them for their only flaw, slow updates.
Intel is good except for weak gpu , lack of elements like enhanced imaging , battery or even sound quality ,these all are found in QC and MTK but often priced higher than intel
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Lol. Just lol. I actually feel lucky that asus skip 5.1.1. That firmware is very buggy. Look at other reviews.
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Gabagabby said:
From kitkat to lollipop, yes what most people know it was only cosmetic. Not for me tough. But from 32 to 64 bit? Not really. Itll optimize zenfone 2 and might unlock the power within it. I cant say much about asus wouldnt release android M, well.. the beta is out on march. Lookin at the history, when asus releases beta, itll be followed with the actual thing. Its just a matter of time really. Asus isnt the fastest in rolling update, but it is a definite that update will come. You are the fast - update kinda person i suppose. Well if its what u want, you are right. You better stick with nexus.
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Lol. Just lol. I actually feel lucky that asus skip 5.1.1. That firmware is very buggy. Look at other reviews.
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I agree tough. Expensive smartphones doesnt always guarantee its quality nowadays.

jimchee said:
The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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Relax bro, even the Note 5 hasnt got the MM yet.

android lover 2000 said:
Asus is love, intel is what i do not love(for gpu, development, no image enhancement and no battery effeciency)(820 is best this year)
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x86 architechture is just a little worse with Android. If devs can figure out something for x86 and make a badass kernel then what's better than that? Or if all the applications and Android itself could be complile for both arm and x86 then x86 doesn't require arm code translator(libhoudini) which lacks performance.

Honor 7X Exceeded Xiaomi and OnePlus Becoming Amazon Best Seller On Xmas

Just heard the news that on Christmas day Honor 7X surpassed OnePlus5T and Xiaomi Red mi becoming Amazon’s best seller in India. How‘re Honor phones? What do you guys think? Honor 7X or Mi A1 or Honor V10 or OnePlus 5T？ Because I’m considering to repalce my old phone.
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MrBitBite said:
Data showed that Honor 7X exceeded Xiaomi and One plus becoming Amazon’s best seller in India on Christmas day. Seems Honor smartphone has become the favorite Christmas & New Year’s gift choice in India. Is Honor really taking a leap in the smartphone performance? What do you guys think? Because I’m planning to get a new Honor phone. Honor 7X or Mi A1 or Honor V10 or OnePlus 5T？
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If you can get the 5T, I'd say go for it. The 7X has Treble support (hopefully) going for it, which OnePlus and Xiaomi don't have. That's the reason I ordered mine, despite it having a non-Snapdragon chip.

Yep, one of the most important reasons I am considering to get an honor 7X is the same reason as you. So you've ordered one? How is the performance so far? And they are announcing a new Honor flagship View10 I suppose, wondering how is this one?

MrBitBite said:
Yep, one of the most important reasons I am considering to get an honor 7X is the same reason as you. So you've ordered one? How is the performance so far? And they are announcing a new Honor flagship View10 I suppose, wondering how is this one?
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It'll take a while for mine to get here (1 week) because it's shipping from China (the US version only has 3GB RAM). Honestly I'm more of a computer guy so high-end phone flagships don't matter to me. A budget device with a good screen and battery that I can use to call and message, do social media, and read books on is all I need. The 7X seemed like a good fit considering the price, and with Treble support hopefully I can keep the device updated with a stock AOSP build on it for a while.

ahmad.o said:
It'll take a while for mine to get here (1 week) because it's shipping from China (the US version only has 3GB RAM).
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Any news on if US will have 4GB version in the future?
Otherwise, what's a good source for the 4GB phones? I saw them on minideal.net but have no experience with ordering non-US phone variants.
I'd love to get this as a new phone, then my Nexus 5X will become my spare

g90814 said:
Any news on if US will have 4GB version in the future?
Otherwise, what's a good source for the 4GB phones? I saw them on minideal.net but have no experience with ordering non-US phone variants.
I'd love to get this as a new phone, then my Nexus 5X will become my spare
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I got mine from eBay. It was pretty cheap (don't know if it was a boxing day deal or not), so I'm pretty happy with that. To be honest though, if your Nexus 5X is fine then I don't see a reason to get a new device. I would use the 7X as my spare if I had the 5X haha.

ahmad.o said:
I got mine from eBay. It was pretty cheap (don't know if it was a boxing day deal or not), so I'm pretty happy with that. To be honest though, if your Nexus 5X is fine then I don't see a reason to get a new device. I would use the 7X as my spare if I had the 5X haha.
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The 5X is 2+ years old at this point, and it seems that support for it is slowing down as far as custom ROMs etc. I do have mine running Android 8.1 with custom kernel and root, but sometimes it starts doing random reboots, which is annoying.

g90814 said:
The 5X is 2+ years old at this point, and it seems that support for it is slowing down as far as custom ROMs etc. I do have mine running Android 8.1 with custom kernel and root, but sometimes it starts doing random reboots, which is annoying.
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Oh that's a common issue. Yeah then at this point you'll just be gambling on where Tree will go in the dev community

MrBitBite said:
Just heard the news that on Christmas day Honor 7X surpassed OnePlus5T and Xiaomi Red mi becoming Amazon’s best seller in India. How‘re Honor phones? What do you guys think? Honor 7X or Mi A1 or Honor V10 or OnePlus 5T？ Because I’m considering to repalce my old phone.
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I'd go with the V10. The 7x is a great budget phone, but if you can afford the V10, go for it. It's very good from what I have read about it so far.

ahmad.o said:
It'll take a while for mine to get here (1 week) because it's shipping from China (the US version only has 3GB RAM). Honestly I'm more of a computer guy so high-end phone flagships don't matter to me. A budget device with a good screen and battery that I can use to call and message, do social media, and read books on is all I need. The 7X seemed like a good fit considering the price, and with Treble support hopefully I can keep the device updated with a stock AOSP build on it for a while.
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Wait, aren't the versions different? I mean is a Chinese phone going to be compatible in US? I was thinking of getting the regular US version but I travel a lot to Europe and don't know if it will be compatible there.

haim666 said:
Wait, aren't the versions different? I mean is a Chinese phone going to be compatible in US? I was thinking of getting the regular US version but I travel a lot to Europe and don't know if it will be compatible there.
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Im pretty sure the bands are different, but if you don't care about LTE then you're probably fine. You should double check the bands on GSMArena or something just in case though.