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I want to buy a phone to a friend of mine in Europe but I have no clue that what frequencies are not compatible with the models of LG G2. I am excluding Sprint and Verizon models.
How about T-mobile and AT&T versions? Are they compatible and do they have a sim card slot?
Thanks in advance
All versions have a SIM card slot, but you'll definitely need to find out which frequencies your friend's carrier uses in order for us to be able to help you. You wouldn't want to buy a T-Mobile one and then find out you needed a Verizon one in order to get 3G in your carrier (happened to me).
If you don't know on which carrier phone will be used to check for bands and radio frequencies, AT&T LG-D800 is your best bet. It supports almost all of them excluding LTE bands.
I wonder what are the frequencies of T-mobile and AT&T versions? If I get them, I can find out the European frequencies. Any hint?
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I wonder what are the frequencies of T-mobile and AT&T versions? If I get them, I can find out the European frequencies. Any hint?
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LTE (4G)
700 Lower 700 (AT&T) / band 17 USA
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
WCDMA (3G / 4G)
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
2100 IMT / band 1 (I) Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel
GSM (2G)
850 Cellular Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
900 Europe, Asia, Africa
1800 DCS Europe, Asia, Africa
1900 PCS Americas
AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850
@Alex
So it seems both versions are compatible with Europe. Thanks man. Appreciate it.
The D803 Canadian version also includes some of the LTE European frequencies.
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I've been at a loss on what to do with my Note 3 since moving to St. Louis. I was at first under the assumption that since it has a sim card slot it could be unlocked and used on GSM carriers and boy was I wrong. The USCC variant does not support GSM at all, and only operates on CDMA. I'm not accurate in my assumption but I assume that the US Note 3s all contain the same hardware but different radios flashed to the chipset preventing access to North American GSM. And now the challenge:
With Root and recovery access is it possible to flash a radio from a GSM variant and match the kernel and then subsequently a GSM Rom to turn the USCC into a GSM capable device?
To start I have found the following infoModes
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LTE (4G)
750 Upper 700 (Verizon) / band 13 USA
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS+G / band 25 USA
WCDMA (3G / 4G)
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
900 band 8 (VIII) Europe, Asia, Africa
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
2100 IMT / band 1 (I) Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel
CDMA (2G / 3G)
850 Cellular / BC0 Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1900 PCS / BC1 Americas
GSM (2G)
850 Cellular Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
900 Europe, Asia, Africa
1800 DCS Europe, Asia, Africa
1900 PCS Americas
Verizon version doesn't support LTE 1900 / Sprint version doesn't support LTE 750, 1700 / U.S. Cellular version doesn't support GSM nor WCDMA
*EDIT* UPDATED JANUARY 2016, =ROOT & XPOSED= work on all dual sim variants!
xxx NO ROOT FOR MM - ANDROID MARSHMALLOW WORKING YET! READ THIS THREAD! xxx
Thank you to all contributors. We topped 200 PAGES! I'll continue to update this OP to link users to various parts of this thread for other users/XDA browsers to quickly find relevant information.
H818P / H818N IS ROOTED!
It works and it's pretty safe...jsut follow the steps and READ everything!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62075670&postcount=381
Also available there are STOCK IMAGES on various softwares 10c, 10d, 10e (etc) PRE-ROOTED and ready to flash using those instructions.
Have ROOT? Here's how to DELETE and EDIT the UI sounds on G4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62089780&postcount=418
Here's a guide to installing Xposed framework (No unlocked bootloader or custom recovery is needed, just root!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62397758&postcount=606
AT TIME OF THIS POST UPDATE - NEITHER H818P nor H818N SUPPORT **SIMULTANEOUS** 3G/4G CONNECTIONS ON BOTH SIMS AT THE SAME TIME. ONE SIM ONLY! Keep reading below.
CONFIRMED:* H818P Does not work on Band 28 (700Mhz)... only Band 17. This has been confirmed by LG UAE. See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62204877&postcount=533
* May 2015: LG announce at least two G4 *DUAL SIM* phones to be released with their latest flagship single-sim model to be released simultaneously (or within 1 month) after most market single-SIM release dates. The 2 most common models areH818P (Ukraine, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, UAE)] and the H818N (Hong Kong, China)
* (CONFIRMED) H818P model supports 3G/4G data connection on SIM1...It is ALSO supported on SIM2 (provided SIM 1 is set to 'GSM only' (or vice versa). It can be a bit tricky for some to get it working, here's how to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61621397&postcount=165 You can also see the functionality for BOTH sims from a user screenshots HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61115881&postcount=49
* (CONFIRMED) H818N model supports 3G/4G data connection on BOTH SIM1 & SIM2. Thanks to @Neutrality here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61674683&postcount=188 If you cannot enable LTE/4G on SIM 2, you are likely using an old software version (v10c or earlier) meaning you will need to access the hidden menu from the dialler. Open the phone dialler, type in 277634#*# suggested by @Syrop on page 18. who STEPS you through activation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62100690&postcount=460. If you have v10d, the option to choose 3G/4G on SIM2 should be readily available in normal menus. See @kanzone s post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62307988&postcount=572 and the one above it.
* Out of box, wireless charging is NOT supported on DUAL SIM models, as SIM2 is roughly in the position where the contact pins are. NFC capability is retained.
* H818P supports 4G LTE band 17 which is 700Mhz (not not Australia/NZ and other band 28 countries on 700Mhz). H818N does not support 700. @bahamot_zero confirms on page 2 with sticker/box image: Same with @Icewanted page 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61010603&postcount=19 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61055401&postcount=34
* H818P USER MANUAL - LG OFFICIAL (English from page 367 onwards), 34MB PDF:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90982755/LG-H818P_CIS_UG_Web_V1.0_150529.pdf
* Open source code for H818 dual SIMs from LG:
http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=H818
RoOSTA
I pre-order Indonesian dual SIM version.
I'll post my findings when I get mine
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Supported bands of the H815T (single SIM model sold in Hong Kong) and H818N (dual SIM):
LG G4 H815T 頻段資料
- 單卡版本 MicroSIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 4G Cat 6 (Carrier Aggreation) 最高 300Mbps
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B4 (1700/2100 AWS)、B5 (850) 、B7 (2600)、B8 (900)、B17 (700) 、B28 (700 TW)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LG G4 H818N 頻段資料
- 雙卡版本 MicroSIM
- 4G / 3G / 2G + 2G 雙卡雙待，人手轉換 SIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B7 (2600)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B38 (2600 CMCC)、B39 (1900 CMCC)、B41 (2600 Unicom)、B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 3G TD-SCDMA : 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Also notable is the H818N does not support Cat. 6 LTE and wireless charging, if any of those matter to you. Both models also differ very slightly in dimensions so it remains to be seen if accessories are compatible with each other.
I pre ordered the dual sim version (H818P) i will have it on the 28th of may. Including battery pack and 64gb sd card.
Will be very interested to hear back from you
- also is there an online shop you can give us the URL , will yours be unlocked ?
I am in Australia but would like to order in Indonesia too
paulie72 said:
I pre ordered the dual sim version (H818P) i will have it on the 28th of may. Including battery pack and 64gb sd card.
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I ordered it at local LG Shop in Mall Ambasador. It is unlocked. You can check here https://www.blibli.com/preorder-ocb...clusive-battery-kit-sd-card-64-gb-474317.html
http://www.bhinneka.com/page/pbr150500008/pre-order_lg_g4.aspx?ref=fp_big_std_a_1
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akyp said:
Supported bands of the H815T (single SIM model sold in Hong Kong) and H818N (dual SIM):
LG G4 H815T 頻段資料
- 單卡版本 MicroSIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 4G Cat 6 (Carrier Aggreation) 最高 300Mbps
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B4 (1700/2100 AWS)、B5 (850) 、B7 (2600)、B8 (900)、B17 (700) 、B28 (700 TW)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LG G4 H818N 頻段資料
- 雙卡版本 MicroSIM
- 4G / 3G / 2G + 2G 雙卡雙待，人手轉換 SIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B7 (2600)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B38 (2600 CMCC)、B39 (1900 CMCC)、B41 (2600 Unicom)、B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 3G TD-SCDMA : 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Also notable is the H818N does not support Cat. 6 LTE and wireless charging, if any of those matter to you. Both models also differ very slightly in dimensions so it remains to be seen if accessories are compatible with each other.
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Do you know the 4G frequencies for the H818P? I thought 1800,2100 and 2600.
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Do you know the 4G frequencies for the H818P? I thought 1800,2100 and 2600.
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No idea about the H818P sorry.
LG G4 *DUAL SIM* models - H818P and H818N
i am looking at buying one of these dual sims units
is there any websites that ship to the uk ?
Not that i know of. You need to have soneone who can order it and ship it for you.
LG G4 *DUAL SIM* models - H818P and H818N
Oh well looks like I'm going to have to wait and hope the dual sim version comes to uk
akyp said:
Supported bands of the H818N (dual SIM):
- 雙卡版本 MicroSIM
- 4G / 3G / 2G + 2G 雙卡雙待，人手轉換 SIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B7 (2600)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B38 (2600 CMCC)、B39 (1900 CMCC)、B41 (2600 Unicom)、B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 3G TD-SCDMA : 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Also notable is the H818N does not support Cat. 6 LTE and wireless charging, if any of those matter to you. Both models also differ very slightly in dimensions so it remains to be seen if accessories are compatible with each other.
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Yes that much we know from the GSM Arena website, but not even that is all too comforting, especially when you consider this website and their presumptions on supported bands:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=8051&view=1&c=lg_g4_h818p_lte-a_lg_p1
What you are forgetting is the other dual SIM model ... the H818P? On LG's UAE website, so such specsw are even listed!
Does anyone know of the G4 dual sim (HOPING it's compatible with 700MHz 4g LTE band FDD) is available to order yet from a reputable international seller, or is it still not available?
Thanks
RoOSTA
Do these work in the states ??
do these work in the states ?
What is the code for the service menu so i can check this thursday when i get it?
If H818P users (UAE, Indonesia, Ukraine, Thailand etc) can post an IMAGE of their phone and the STICKER on the box confirming model number and compatable MHz bands, that would be appreciated.
Paulie72 I was under the impression vendors may start to receive this stock BY 28th May. Have you been told it will be in your HANDS by then?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
If H818P users (UAE, Indonesia, Ukraine, Thailand etc) can post an IMAGE of their phone and the STICKER on the box confirming model number and compatable MHz bands, that would be appreciated.
Paulie72 I was under the impression vendors may start to receive this stock BY 28th May. Have you been told it will be in your HANDS by then?
RoOSTA
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I am in Saudi Arabia, and LG announced that it will provide H818P (2 SIM Slots) with 64GB Micro SD Card.
Well, I have to wait until June 6, until it is officially released.
I hope I can get it sooner.
roosta said:
If H818P users (UAE, Indonesia, Ukraine, Thailand etc) can post an IMAGE of their phone and the STICKER on the box confirming model number and compatable MHz bands, that would be appreciated.
Paulie72 I was under the impression vendors may start to receive this stock BY 28th May. Have you been told it will be in your HANDS by then?
RoOSTA
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Yes it will be in stock on the 28th of May. I will make a photo of both then. I am going to pick it up on 28th in the morning local time Jakarta.
Unfortunately the G4 is delayed so i hope to get it delivered tonight or tomorrow midday at our family residence.
Here you go, photo courtesy of springfield from Indonesian forum.
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Here you go, photo courtesy of springfield from Indonesian forum.
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Do you know where he bought it? They told me the shipment was delayed!!
Greetings,
I am gonna pre-order a Nexus 6P and I want to know if there r any difference between NA version and others...
I am on China Unicom, which is using FDD Band 3...
Do all versions support B3?
Thanks!
This is what the Australian product page gives us:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
TD-SCDMA: 34/39
CDMA: BC0/1
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/19/20/28
LTE (TDD): B38/B39/40/41
AndroidPolice have an article on the US model too, and quote the below:
Nexus 6P
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/1/10
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25/26/29
So you should be all fine with whatever version.
XIAOSpider said:
Greetings,
I am gonna pre-order a Nexus 6P and I want to know if there r any difference between NA version and others...
I am on China Unicom, which is using FDD Band 3...
Do all versions support B3?
Thanks!
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I was looking for the bands lists and found it on Huawei's website.
North America version (A1)
LTE: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/30/41
UMTS: 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC 0/1/10
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Rest of World version (A2)
LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/19/20/28/38/39/40/41
UMTS: 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
TD-SCDMA: 34/39
CDMA: BC 0/1
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
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I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
zBear said:
I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
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i don't think that there is any hardware difference
it's one device
the one with global rom , i guess it has the adapter , google services (and play) and some chinese apps removed
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
kodorevi8ulis said:
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
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but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
zBear said:
but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
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well the only think that i am sure is that as an european is difficult to find the "india" version
(because i know -and can buy from - only chinese stores)
also 2 band for lte is weird so i guess it's just a rom limitation or just incomplete list of specs (because it doesn't matter for India the other bands)
p.s. i don't see roms only for india , i only see china and global roms
Their hardwares should be same.
Charger different
China version don't have Google Play service+bandwidth those stuffs should be different?
so... any more infos about the 800MHz FDD-LTE support ?
anyone tried to unlock the bootloader on a chinese version and flashing a xiaomi.eu multilang rom to see if B20/800 is available ?
This is of great interest to me too. I want to buy two Redmi 3s's, but need B20 as well. If it's as easy as flashing the global/international ROM, it would save me lots of $$. Has anyone tried this and succeeded using B20 on a Chinese 3s?
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
Aleks93ts said:
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
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of course it works, that's the point of the international version
No it's impossible to enable. The only way is to buy the int. version
If anyone is still interested, I found 3 models of R3S
1. 2016030
Chinese version . Chinese factory ROM, manuals, box and plug.
Most common version on aliexpress.
2016030 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
TD-SCDMA TD-SCDMA 2000 (B34), TD-SCDMA 1900 (B39)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7)
TD-LTE 2600 (B38), TD-LTE 1900 (B39), TD-LTE 2300 (B40), TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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2. 2016031
International version with factory global ROM, english manual, box and EU plug
2016031 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 1700/2100 (B4), FDD-LTE 850 (B5), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7), FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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3. 2016032
Indian version.
2016032 frequencies
GSM 900, GSM 1800
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 850 (B5)
TD-LTE 2300 (B40)
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Hi
Thanks for the listing of the models.
How do I know which model I have?
Model 2016030: Critical bands missing: FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
Model 2016031: No missing bands
Model 2016032: Critical bands missing: UMTS 850 (B5), LTE 900 (B8), 800 (B20)
Redmi 3S Gold
Android 6.0.1 MMB29M
MIUI Global 8.1.1.0
RAM 3GB
MEM 32 GB
Baseband ENNS_PACK-1.69259.1.69863.2-V036
Kernel 3.18.20-ge45c102
Rrrr said:
How do I know which model I have?
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No. There's should not be and hardware differences until it comes to Mobile Broadband frequencies, but i think this is software dependent. As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably. I use Global Stable with Root and some tools and it's just fine.
JakeCherry97 said:
As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably
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no, it's not working this way
I've seen some development attempts regarding enabling missing channels, but with no success
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Thank you!
So I have 2016031. If the information I provided above is correct, that means I have all necessary bands for Europe.
The problem is I found different information here:
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Xiaomi: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/redmi-3s-with-lte-b20-800mhz.33957/
2016030 is 32gb version
2016031 is 16gb version
Both without b20
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-32gb-2016030
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-16gb-2016031
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2016031 is 16gb version THIS IS STRANGE RIGHT, I HAVE 32GB VERSION and it is model 2016031
What is correct?
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
I hope someone knows?
Rrrr said:
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
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Yes, you do.
I have the same model and ROM capacity.
Look at my october post, you can find there links to official Xiaomi pages with the band availability information.
There is no information about model numbers there, but it was confirmed by many users.
Thank you for your help!
I see indeed all the bands under specifications.
I am very happy.