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[Q] What is the Point of CyanogenMod

For starters, I know, I'm a nub. I've been cautiously playing with ROMs for my Epic since the first SyndicateROM Frozen release and have lurked around /Dev ever since, looking for that just-right ROM.
Over time, I've seen a lot of references to CyanogenMod on the innertubes and I gathered that it was supposed to be what Android should have been but wasn't: an OS that worked the same way on all (supported) devices, without all the manufacturer and carrier bloat lagging the hardware.
I've tried a few nightlies of CM for the Epic and although I like the speed, looks, and configurability, I don't really understand why the Epic is listed as supported when only nightlies are available. Two months in and things like changing the volume during a call mutes it irrevocably, forcing a redial. Overall, I'm left wondering what all the fuss is about.
I recently upgraded another line on my Sprint account with a HTC Evo 4G. Since the Evo 4G has been supported by CM for ages and has stable builds available, I felt this was finally the best opportunity to give CM7 a real try and see what it can do. I happily loaded it up, packed in the user's needful apps, dressed up the UI, only to find that the volume rocker doesn't work properly. CM seemed confused by Media Volume, Ringer Volume, and Call Volume and when it wasn't meddling with the inappropriate volume for the given situation it chose to do nothing at all. The user's primary complaint with his previous phone, a Samsung Moment, was that the GPS had stopped working so imagine my =/ when I found that GPS doesn't lock in CM7 on the Evo. I gave up my half-day's worth of wasted effort and loaded up a Barebones rooted ROM instead, which naturally worked properly while looking like crap.
So back to my title question: is this the best we can expect from CyanogenMod? My sense is that there's a lot of angst built up among Android users, some of whom have declared CM the best version of Android almost in hopes that saying will make it so. Given the proliferation of fanbois, it's hard to get a real sense of what is out there to try.
For myself, I would like a ROM that doesn't surreptitiously track me, wakes up quickly on keyboard-slide, goes all day on a single charge with 2-4 hours of screen time, and all the radios work. 17 months of owning this phone and the first ROM I tried is still probably the best (SRF). CleanGB comes close but for whatever reason the first character I type on the keyboard gets highlighted and then erased by whatever I type next, forcing me to type the first letter twice (this happens when typing with nothing open on-screen and in whatever browser I'm using). The GPS is also terrible with EL30's radio.
Is this just how it is?

I think its that some people don't really care if things work perfectly or not. I personally got so fed up with CM7 that I went to CleanGB. They stopped working on CM7 a while ago and are now fixing up CM9. I'd love to see what CM9 is like, but I'll probably wait until at LEAST the betas begin if not the release candidate.
I think Cyanogenmod represents hope to people who own devices that are no longer supported by the manufacturer. That is why people may overlook a volume rocker not working perfectly. You gotta get Cyanogenmod devs a lot of credit. They do put out a damn good release with regards to what they are given to start with.

By far no... cyanogen is so popular its been recognized by Google amung others. The volume issue is a feature not a bug I don't own an evo but I put cyanogen on one for a friend and he loves it. What version did u use on the rvo I had a HTC glacier and now the sensation. Cm7 on glacier is solid asrock and cm9 on HTC sensation even it its beta stage is good enough for daily use did:u flash most up to date gapps? I honestly can't live without cm and I've tryed other rooms but I always come back to cm and I've rooted probably a dozen peoples phones with it and the response is always the same. "Its just soon much better, faster and easier to use and everything works its what I thought my phone was gonna be" I would recommend a custom kernel to go with cm7 as the included kernel is very basic (no non standard CPU governors etc) look for an overclocked and undeevolted kernel. It will help with battery life (more so with undervolted and ovrrclocked kernel as opposed to just overclocled as the undervolt one changes the voltage steps on the CPU as well as freq so even though your OC'd it still is using the same (or less) amount of power. Also try and get one with the smartass CPU governor as its like having CPU profiles like when screen is off it pilots mhtz to the min freq setting instead of just leaving it "on demand" feel free to pick my brain I want u to feel the joy that comes with using cyanogwn
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hammmy said:
For starters, I know, I'm a nub. I've been cautiously playing with ROMs for my Epic since the first SyndicateROM Frozen release and have lurked around /Dev ever since, looking for that just-right ROM.
Over time, I've seen a lot of references to CyanogenMod on the innertubes and I gathered that it was supposed to be what Android should have been but wasn't: an OS that worked the same way on all (supported) devices, without all the manufacturer and carrier bloat lagging the hardware.
I've tried a few nightlies of CM for the Epic and although I like the speed, looks, and configurability, I don't really understand why the Epic is listed as supported when only nightlies are available. Two months in and things like changing the volume during a call mutes it irrevocably, forcing a redial. Overall, I'm left wondering what all the fuss is about.
I recently upgraded another line on my Sprint account with a HTC Evo 4G. Since the Evo 4G has been supported by CM for ages and has stable builds available, I felt this was finally the best opportunity to give CM7 a real try and see what it can do. I happily loaded it up, packed in the user's needful apps, dressed up the UI, only to find that the volume rocker doesn't work properly. CM seemed confused by Media Volume, Ringer Volume, and Call Volume and when it wasn't meddling with the inappropriate volume for the given situation it chose to do nothing at all. The user's primary complaint with his previous phone, a Samsung Moment, was that the GPS had stopped working so imagine my =/ when I found that GPS doesn't lock in CM7 on the Evo. I gave up my half-day's worth of wasted effort and loaded up a Barebones rooted ROM instead, which naturally worked properly while looking like crap.
So back to my title question: is this the best we can expect from CyanogenMod? My sense is that there's a lot of angst built up among Android users, some of whom have declared CM the best version of Android almost in hopes that saying will make it so. Given the proliferation of fanbois, it's hard to get a real sense of what is out there to try.
For myself, I would like a ROM that doesn't surreptitiously track me, wakes up quickly on keyboard-slide, goes all day on a single charge with 2-4 hours of screen time, and all the radios work. 17 months of owning this phone and the first ROM I tried is still probably the best (SRF). CleanGB comes close but for whatever reason the first character I type on the keyboard gets highlighted and then erased by whatever I type next, forcing me to type the first letter twice (this happens when typing with nothing open on-screen and in whatever browser I'm using). The GPS is also terrible with EL30's radio.
Is this just how it is?
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I don't want to sound mean or rude, but if you have problems with the small stuff then just go stock or the closest build of stability. GPA has always been terrible its Samsung for you. and for screen on times like that your not going to get that with a stock battery and also depends on your usage man.

muyoso said:
You gotta get Cyanogenmod devs a lot of credit. They do put out a damn good release with regards to what they are given to start with.
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Absolutely. I recognize that what they are trying to do is incredibly ambitious and a worthy goal.
XxLostSoulxX said:
I don't want to sound mean or rude, but if you have problems with the small stuff then just go stock or the closest build of stability. GPA has always been terrible its Samsung for you. and for screen on times like that your not going to get that with a stock battery and also depends on your usage man.
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No offense taken. The differential in expectations seems to be that no one bothers to mention the "small stuff", like GPS or buttons not working while they go on endlessly about how much faster the CPU will do, well, almost nothing worthwhile.
Also, the GPS not working was on the HTC using CM7--it seems to be merely flaky with the Epic in CM7. For nightly 45, anyways. I also get that much life out of my 1500mAh OEM battery (17 months old), even with CM7 although it does seem to be eating about 15% more per day than CleanGB (JuiceDefender's Balanced profile in both cases). I mentioned it only so that my expectations were clearer for anyone caring to compare.

muyoso said:
I'd love to see what CM9 is like, but I'll probably wait until at LEAST the betas begin if not the release candidate.
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I know you have other reasons for not going to CM9 and I completely respect that, however this is a common misconception, and seems to be a very good reason why people don't flash CM9.
CM9...as a whole, is alpha. That is because there are features, a theme manager, and some improvements to be added. Ice Cream Sandwich as CM9 however...performs like a beta, if not a release candidate. Think of it has a slightly tweaked ICS rom for the time being. It performs as good as stock ICS would on the galaxy nexus though.
There are very, very small bugs in CM9 that will affect everyday use, and sometimes that's enough for people not to want to flash it. But again (and this isn't just directed at you, I see this too often), look past the word alpha.
Here's the only minor bugs that have ever bothered me in the slightest:
Video artifacts when playing LQ videos (Not a big deal because I prefer HQ, and that works perfectly)
Some pictures in the gallery are jumbled when clicking on one. The fix? Just download quickpic.
That's it. Other than that, it performs better than any android OS version I've ever been on in my life.
Just tellin ya =)
@ OP: "I've tried a few nightlies of CM for the Epic and although I like the speed, looks, and configurability, I don't really understand why the Epic is listed as supported when only nightlies are available. Two months in and things like changing the volume during a call mutes it irrevocably, forcing a redial. Overall, I'm left wondering what all the fuss is about."
Nightlies are upstream changes to CM7 as a whole. Just because you don't see a "stable" version does not mean any nightly isn't stable. They all are. The CM team is just constantly improving their ROM as a whole. Half the things they "fix" are rarely relevant to one's everyday use, and they're just changes to make essentially the "perfect" ROM. CM7 is as stable as any EL30 ROM out there I guarantee, and it's much faster and customizable.

CM7 and now on CM9 I've never had in volume rocker issues or gps issues. I'm loving Cyanogen Mod makes my phone like a brand new phone. But I guess every phone is different.
Sent from a CM9 powered Epic.

Cyanogen had to move across the country to work for samsung. Most devs that get taken over to a big company can't release roms anymore. The misconception is that it isn't done yet. They'll give it to us at just the right time. Sxsw should help.
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CM is a community rom. Only a small part is actually made by Cyanogen. Basically, they put up an AOSP version of the latest android then let people submit changes. Anyone can submit a change and it will be either approved or denied by team douche (cm team).
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The point is open sauce (it is very tasty sauce.)
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|| Acer || said:
I know you have other reasons for not going to CM9 and I completely respect that, however this is a common misconception, and seems to be a very good reason why people don't flash CM9.
CM9...as a whole, is alpha. That is because there are features, a theme manager, and some improvements to be added. Ice Cream Sandwich as CM9 however...performs like a beta, if not a release candidate. Think of it has a slightly tweaked ICS rom for the time being. It performs as good as stock ICS would on the galaxy nexus though.
There are very, very small bugs in CM9 that will affect everyday use, and sometimes that's enough for people not to want to flash it. But again (and this isn't just directed at you, I see this too often), look past the word alpha.
Here's the only minor bugs that have ever bothered me in the slightest:
Video artifacts when playing LQ videos (Not a big deal because I prefer HQ, and that works perfectly)
Some pictures in the gallery are jumbled when clicking on one. The fix? Just download quickpic.
That's it. Other than that, it performs better than any android OS version I've ever been on in my life.
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I understand that the overall CM9 isn't official yet, so we cannot have anything other than an alpha at this point. That said, I have read a lot about it and there are still major things that stand out to me that make me not want to flash it. Also, like in CM7, 99% of the people overlook things when discussing the rom that I consider a deal killer. I'm gonna wait until its pretty stable and then flash so that I can give it a fair comparison to CleanGB.

hammmy said:
For starters, I know, I'm a nub. I've been cautiously playing with ROMs for my Epic since the first SyndicateROM Frozen release and have lurked around /Dev ever since, looking for that just-right ROM.
Over time, I've seen a lot of references to CyanogenMod on the innertubes and I gathered that it was supposed to be what Android should have been but wasn't: an OS that worked the same way on all (supported) devices, without all the manufacturer and carrier bloat lagging the hardware.
I've tried a few nightlies of CM for the Epic and although I like the speed, looks, and configurability, I don't really understand why the Epic is listed as supported when only nightlies are available. Two months in and things like changing the volume during a call mutes it irrevocably, forcing a redial. Overall, I'm left wondering what all the fuss is about.
I recently upgraded another line on my Sprint account with a HTC Evo 4G. Since the Evo 4G has been supported by CM for ages and has stable builds available, I felt this was finally the best opportunity to give CM7 a real try and see what it can do. I happily loaded it up, packed in the user's needful apps, dressed up the UI, only to find that the volume rocker doesn't work properly. CM seemed confused by Media Volume, Ringer Volume, and Call Volume and when it wasn't meddling with the inappropriate volume for the given situation it chose to do nothing at all. The user's primary complaint with his previous phone, a Samsung Moment, was that the GPS had stopped working so imagine my =/ when I found that GPS doesn't lock in CM7 on the Evo. I gave up my half-day's worth of wasted effort and loaded up a Barebones rooted ROM instead, which naturally worked properly while looking like crap.
So back to my title question: is this the best we can expect from CyanogenMod? My sense is that there's a lot of angst built up among Android users, some of whom have declared CM the best version of Android almost in hopes that saying will make it so. Given the proliferation of fanbois, it's hard to get a real sense of what is out there to try.
For myself, I would like a ROM that doesn't surreptitiously track me, wakes up quickly on keyboard-slide, goes all day on a single charge with 2-4 hours of screen time, and all the radios work. 17 months of owning this phone and the first ROM I tried is still probably the best (SRF). CleanGB comes close but for whatever reason the first character I type on the keyboard gets highlighted and then erased by whatever I type next, forcing me to type the first letter twice (this happens when typing with nothing open on-screen and in whatever browser I'm using). The GPS is also terrible with EL30's radio.
Is this just how it is?
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I agree that SRF 1.2 was the best rom I've ever used with the epic, but as far as gingerbread roms I like CM7 the best. I don't know why you have the volume problem, but I can't reproduce it on my phone (pressing volume during a call does nothing except adjust call volume for me as it should) which is running the same nightly as you. I don't think I can name a single bug on it actually, or at least none of them have affected me yet. Except the random LED behavior i guess?
All this plus the huge amount of features and theme changer makes cm7 the best in my book. I have also had absolutely 0 issues with stability, too. (no FCs, reboots, hangs)
edit: volume rocker changes media when i'm playing music/etc, ringer in general, and call volume during calls. gps locks very fast. I'm not a fanboy, i switch roms very frequently and only recently settled on cm7. i really cannot reproduce a single one of the bugs you mentioned, or any instability in general.

You kind of come off as a whining little snob. No offense but If cm7 or cm9 doesn't suit your boot, then leave and stick with your clean GB. Us true epic users are kissing dusty feet for these upgrades, especially cm9 ICS. No complaints on my end over small bugs. Enjoy a factory android or iphone. Yes, call me an Ahole all day. I really don't care.
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Attacking people in a thread is kind of childish don't you think? I really don't think the op sounds like he is being whiny at all imo. Look here is the bottom line CM9 isn't for everyone. It is a nice rom and could be used as a very nice daily driver. The op has some concerns about it and it sounds like he wanted to know what all the hype was about. So yes CM9 is an awesome rom and has the potential imo to be even better
than it is. If you love the core TW elements than CM9 probably is not the best choice for you.
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b16flybye said:
You kind of come off as a whining little snob. No offense but If cm7 or cm9 doesn't suit your boot, then leave and stick with your clean GB. Us true epic users are kissing dusty feet for these upgrades, especially cm9 ICS. No complaints on my end over small bugs. Enjoy a factory android or iphone. Yes, call me an Ahole all day. I really don't care.
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O come on really. He's just stating that's there's a bugs.
You are being a fanboy.
I was looking forword to cm7 but it seems they stoped working on it. Do I complane no cuz they can work on what even THEY WANT TO.
The thing that gets me it that dam txt for voice mails & other phones cm7 have it fixed but the ppl in the epic forums just say use google voice & never bother to think maybe A) ppl don't like it. Or B) are already using google voice for an other number. I have seen so many ppl ask the same thing I feel there is no point of asking for a fix.
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.

The point is the CMs are not TW ROMs. If there are features which are exclusive to TW ROMs that you can't live without then stick to a TW ROM like CleanGB. An AOSP ROM is never going to be a TW ROM. It feels more like this thread is a "convince me to use Cyanogen even though I already love CleanGB" thing. Different strokes for different folks. We are lucky to have such diverse choices here on the Epic. Use what you like.
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^^ what he said^^
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kennyglass123 said:
The point is the CMs are not TW ROMs. If there are features which are exclusive to TW ROMs that you can't live without then stick to a TW ROM like CleanGB. An AOSP ROM is never going to be a TW ROM. It feels more like this thread is a "convince me to use Cyanogen even though I already love CleanGB" thing. Different strokes for different folks. We are lucky to have such diverse choices here on the Epic. Use what you like.
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I still don't see what aosp has to do with the txting voice mail thing. Cm7 runs just fine on my gfs phone & she don't get the txts when she gets vmail. (She has sprint & an LG Optimus S & that little pos phone is no longer a pos with cm7. She was vary happy when I flashed it on her phone ;-);-) I didn't even tell her heheheh she just woke up 2 a phone that didn't lock up every day )
BTW Kenny I totoaly get ur point. But there's no reason to come in the thread & be a fan boy(other ppl NOT u kenny). But on the other hand you can't go any where on the net with out fanboys jumping on u if u like a subaru over an Evo, a 360 over a ps3. I love cm I instll it on all kinds of phones. I also DO NOT HATE TOUCHWIZ one thing that I love about touchwiz is the swipe left to txt right to call. I didn't even know that was a tw thing untill I instlled cm7 on a friends phone (b4 we had it) I thought it was a froyo thingy.
The cm team does a grate job but there roms are like the be all end all god of epic roms & evey time we start to Discuss the subject some fanboys comm in and ruins it all Screaming blasphemy blasphemy blasphemy reminds me of the Muslims *****ing about cartoons. Its like if u DON'T LOVE CM u suck arond hear.
I'm just disapointed that cm7 died idk if ics is ever going to work any better than win7 does on my sony vaio that came with vista, only time will tell.
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So if I'm reading the fanbois right, the bugs are just how CyanogenMod is. Okay then, I don't have a problem with that. I happen to think that the buttons and GPS on my phone (or others) are must-have features and not minor bugs. I certainly have no affection for TouchWiz or Sense else why would I be bothering to try ROMs, especially now that CiQ has been removed from EL30 (thank you very much, k0nane!).
For comparison, I also mess about in the router modding world, with third-party firmware like DD-WRT and OpenWRT. The finished products there, when they say they work, they tend to mean all of the buttons. With CM7, it looks like finished (meaning the Evo) means features are missing and my question was simply is that also what it will also be like when the Epic is finished. The answer appears to be yes.
Edit: I doublechecked the call mute thing and it does happen with my phone on nightly 45 of CM7. Adjusting the volume down once reduces the volume to nearly inaudible levels and pressing up on the rocker does nothing. I first noticed the bug when in handsfree on a robocall; when I tried to turn down the handsfree volume, one press effectively muted the call and taking the call out of speakerphone mode did nothing.

Well said Kenny at least you have the class to come on here and not be a fanboy. You give us your point in a straightforward but non condescending tone. I myself think CM9 is awesome but there are just some things that are deal breakers for me. So maybe in the future I will give CM9 a go again.
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[Q] AOSP based ROMs for D802 current status

I'm still using stock on my month old G2, but I'm preparing myself for an AOSP based ride.
What is the most stable AOSP version for this device? It doesn't need to be Kit Kat, I'm content with 4.2 or 4.3.
Omni? CM? AOKP? AOSP? There's just so much development going on, I don't know where to look first.
Of all those released for the device; which has the least bugs? Best battery life and camera?

revan17 said:
I'm still using stock on my month old G2, but I'm preparing myself for an AOSP based ride.
What is the most stable AOSP version for this device? It doesn't need to be Kit Kat, I'm content with 4.2 or 4.3.
Omni? CM? AOKP? AOSP? There's just so much development going on, I don't know where to look first.
Of all those released for the device; which has the least bugs? Best battery life and camera?
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I have always been a fan of Cyanogenmod, depending on the phone it might not always be the fastest, most stable, best battery, best camera all at the same time, but usually has a very good balance of those. I have been running CM since the first Droid and have had it on multiple phones, the development progress is always a nice plus, if there is a problem, they are likely to fix it.
For my VZW G2, compared to stock it has roughly the same battery life (excellent), not quite as good camera (this is getting better lately, you can always load the stock camera back on to resolve this), and does have some SOD (Suspend's Of Death), where the phone locks up, and causes a reboot (YMMV with these SOD, some don't have them at all).
I daily drive my CM 11 and usually have the latest nightly loaded. I need my phone for work, and feel it is reliable enough for that. The only major issue I still have is with Bluetooth and my smart watch. Bluetooth crashes for me when I first connect it, a reboot fixes it until the next reconnect.
I have a feeling that once KitKat is released for this phone a lot of these minor issues will be eliminated.
I really did not like the LG skin, so for me, loading CM was a no brainer.

stelthy77 said:
I have always been a fan of Cyanogenmod, depending on the phone it might not always be the fastest, most stable, best battery, best camera all at the same time, but usually has a very good balance of those. I have been running CM since the first Droid and have had it on multiple phones, the development progress is always a nice plus, if there is a problem, they are likely to fix it.
For my VZW G2, compared to stock it has roughly the same battery life (excellent), not quite as good camera (this is getting better lately, you can always load the stock camera back on to resolve this), and does have some SOD (Suspend's Of Death), where the phone locks up, and causes a reboot (YMMV with these SOD, some don't have them at all).
I daily drive my CM 11 and usually have the latest nightly loaded. I need my phone for work, and feel it is reliable enough for that. The only major issue I still have is with Bluetooth and my smart watch. Bluetooth crashes for me when I first connect it, a reboot fixes it until the next reconnect.
I have a feeling that once KitKat is released for this phone a lot of these minor issues will be eliminated.
I really did not like the LG skin, so for me, loading CM was a no brainer.
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Thanks for the in-depth opinion. It gives me great pleasure to see the LG camera app has been ported to CM with basically everything working.
What about the double tap to wake? It's fairly easy to put it to sleep(using the app from Play Store) but can we wake the device as on Stock ROM?

revan17 said:
Thanks for the in-depth opinion. It gives me great pleasure to see the LG camera app has been ported to CM with basically everything working.
What about the double tap to wake? It's fairly easy to put it to sleep(using the app from Play Store) but can we wake the device as on Stock ROM?
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Yeah, the camera app works fine, although I am now on the one that came with Cyanogenmod, and I am pretty happy with the last couple of revisions.
The tap to wake works great, best results regardless of rom is to tap tap and hold. CM just added the tap to sleep, you will have to enable it, but it works great. Just tap the status bar twice and it will turn right off. Settings - Interface - Knock On/Off Gestures You have to tap the status bar to turn off,

Just an FYI, the Bluetooth issues I was having have been fixed with the latest nightly. (1/11)

[Q] Is OmniROM compatible with franco kernel and Swype keyboard

Hey guys. I'm new to the world of Android (had a Nexus 5 since November, coming from BB and iPhone). I'm even newer to modding (unlocked/rooted/installed CM on my device 4 days ago), and I'm even newer than that to XDA (first post!) so I apologize if these questions either don't belong here or are a little naive.
I've been reading and viewing a lot of reviews on OmniROM and I'm thinking of installing it when my new device comes in this week (had to RMA due to pixel issues). For the last few days I decided to unlock/root/flash a ROM on my phone just to try it out. Based on what I've seen and read, I think OmniROM would meet my needs better than CM, so I think that's the direction I'm going to go.
One thing I want to improve about my phone's performance is battery life. I've noticed a slight improvement with CM, but not nearly the improvement others have noticed when using custom kernels, such as Franco Kernel. I know that Franco Kernel has some compatibility issues with CM, and I'm wondering if those issues exist with OmniROM? If Franco Kernel is NOT compatible with Omni, could you suggest other options to achieve the same or similar improvements to battery life?
Second question is with Swype keyboard. Swype worked great for the first day or so after installing CM, but lately I'm getting the "stopped working" dialogue box after every word I type. The keyboard doesn't go away, and I can keep typing, but I get that dialogue box after every. single. word. I have no idea if it's the rom that's causing it. I downloaded Swype off of Amazon when they had a free app giveaway, but there are no updates available there. IF the issues with Swype are linked to CM, will those same issues exist with Omni? Are there any solutions to this issue?
Thanks a lot!

No clue. Alternate kernels are NOT supported and no one on the team is going to endorse one. It might work, it might not, you will not be able to file bug reports if you're running a modified configuration.

I think that Franco will work normally. It doesn't work on CM 'cuz it's CAF ROM. As I know, Omni is not CAF based so Franco (btw for me ElementalX kernel fits better, take a look at it too) should work.

LG G3 D850 CM12 Lollipop nightly review

This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
and leaving feedback, feel free to leave your expierience

I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.

Tomogitarist said:
I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.

Long story short, custom ROM'S never be good as official ESPECIALLY for LG G3, you just need to understand that, for some people it's ok but for some don't. All you need is a root and MAYBE a custom kernel. PEACE.

Agreed on sound quality but CyanogenMod has many advantage's
I would argued on sound quality and maybe animations just because they are more much nice in CyanogenMod vs stock ROM. Everything else is just plain better in CyanogenMod. I am experiencing a randomly sound beep for about 1 to 3 seconds and dont know why. I am always on the lastest nightly.
Also I love the fact that I can see thr constants additions or fixes CyanogenMod is doing.

Tomogitarist said:
I never understood why people think that CM12 is so faster than LG's rom. For me both are blazing fast, CM12 could be even slower because it has longer animations (if we compare on 1x speed both). Speaker quality and volume is really lame on CM12 rom unlike on LG's rom. Only two things I dont like about LG's rom is crap lockscreen (CM12 has best lockscreen ever) and new Lollipop look. Kitkat looks much more elegant than Lollipop which looks childish and cartoonish. I bought G3 after having various Nexus devices with full stock google experience, and I gotta say it's nice to have some integrated useful features. CM12 is still missing many features, won't even think about switching to it right now.
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B.s..... aosp is way, way faster. LG stock Rom is laggy as hell
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LastSUper said:
I'm in agreement with speaker volume, I noticed after switching over that my phone wasnt as loud as it had been before. I believe a lot of people believe that the simple look of lolipop is what makes it so elegant, its more laid back. There are a lot of disadvantages with switching over to. If your a quickremote user you quickly miss not having it in cm12.
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You realize that you can use quickremote on aosp right? Check the apps section here for a flashable zip

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You realize that you can use quickremote on aosp right? Check the apps section here for a flashable zip[/QUOTE]
Wonderful news, im happy to hear that quickremote is still a possibility, I tried a apk from the stock ROM but it did not work, I'll hunt down the zip

Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion

LastSUper said:
Nightly 1/22 has slight WiFi issues, everything else remains working as far as I could tell, currently trying a more stable 5.0 ROM, illusion
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I had wifi and data issues too on CM12. I could barely get 3G on some places at work.

LastSUper said:
This morning I decided I couldn't hold back from android 5.0 any longer and the update just couldn't come fast enough (it never can, am I right) so being the average android fanboy I looked toward CyanogenMod. I knew all they had was night lies and that was why I held off so long, but my curiosity gave in and I had to. So I headed over to cyanogen and grabbed my handy dandy .zip . I rebooted to recovery and went through the routine, and it just couldn't go fast enough, in reality it was the fastest flash I've ever done. First cm12, then my gapps. Waited for the phone to reboot blahdeeblahdeeblahhh, went through the upgrade process and BAMMM! 5.0 RIGHT IN MY FACE! First look at this nightly 5.0 and I couldn't get enough. The quadhd has definatley been put in effect and it shows. Everything I've used has been fully functional except updating su binaries (prob lack of support for 5 due to being new). The elegance and speed run perfectly along eachother, and my phone has never been faster. I may be speaking to soon, but this project must be somewhere close to a stable build. I'm currently running 1/21 nightly and i recommend it to others, I have found this ROM safe and will continue updating my phone with nightlies
and leaving feedback, feel free to leave your expierience
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It's good to hear that CM12 is coming along. I tried it back when it was "unofficial" and my phone was overheating to the point that it actually scared me. Since then I have moved over to Cloudy G3 (which is based on stock). The Cloudy G3 Rom itself is very quick and with the Android L theme from @Kickoff it has a much nicer look that is closer to the stock android UI. I think I will stick with Cloudy G3. The main reason being that I am able to use ExFAT on my SD card and also the LG camera allows you to save to SD and all of the LG features are there if I want them.

Illusion ROM is extremely stable with a good build team, been using for two days now with NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER! Its the full lollipop experience.

I also moved as soon as CM12 become possible to use for daily use.
Room is incredible fast, every day less and less bugs. With the most of them is possible to live with.
Comparing to ****ty LG's android, i finally have feeling that i have good phone. Lag and terrible quality of official android make me to feel sorry for buying this phone (beside battery).

I reverted back to cm12. Running 1/26 right now and its flawless. DO NOT UPDATE TO 1/27! There are major speed issues and connection problems. Illusion ROM lacked features I enjoyed and there settings menu was a train wreck.
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WARNING
DO NOT UPDATE PAST NIGHTLY 26!!! after nightly 26 almost all connection services such as WiFi and mobile network will not work or work extremely poorly. I have tested all the way up to nightly 29. All the zips are in some way corrupt. They give red code while flashing but proceed anyways (I'm not a proffesional sorry guys haha). Nightly 29 wouldn't even boot without the kernel crashing. Nightly 26 is running almost flawlessly. I hope someone sees this so they can address the problem. I have still not tried nightly 30. I might try sometime later tommorow, I'll continue updating.

Nightly 30 and 31 are working and everything is starting to get polished over. Nightly 31 received a new boot animation darker than before with a nicer ending. Both run very well with no problems noticed so far other than very minor lag between some animations.

Mind that CM12 is in its early Nightlies, issues will be fixed but it will take time.

Well of course, I'm just recording bugs in each nightly so people will have a better idea whether or not they should move to the next nightly

I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.

tenf00t said:
I'm currently considering this rom. Comming from a Nexus 5 I really miss stock Lollipop. The only thing I was wondering is if it was possible to keep the LG Camera App and if the knock code still works? I don't really care about anything else from the official LG rom.
I notice there hasn't been any update recently to this thread. Are you guys still using Cyanogen? How is it comming along.
Thanks.
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the activeness of this thread doesn't determine the stability of a ROM lol. flash CM yourself and find out. if you want your G3 to be as smooth and flawless as your Nexus 5 was on AOSP, over clock your GPU to 580MHz and it'll fix all the lag. you can do this on the stock CM kernel using Trickster Mod kernel tweaker.
also, no LG camera and no knock code. but there is Motorola camera which is really just as great, and there is double tap screen to turn it on.
Sent from my LG G3

another review can be seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJC9B0qa2RY

Stable Releases?

I hate to be a moaner, and don't get me wrong what you devs do is awesome, but I really can't seem to grasp why everyone puts so much focus towards making sure their s4 has the latest version of android on their phone, even though, it's not really anywhere near stable enough for convenient every day use yet...
You'd think people would be more on the lookout for roms that are fully stable and fully harness their phone's potential instead of constantly flashing builds that could ruin their afternoon suddenly because something broke unexpectedly that they're used to having work perfectly?
I get that there needs to be development and testing, and it's all great work that's being done, but seriously, is there only this little number of stable S4 builds?
I don't care what anybody says, I haven't tried an LP rom yet that's been 100% stable, something always breaks and leaves me rolling back to KK just to have more peace of mind

rynoism said:
I hate to be a moaner, and don't get me wrong what you devs do is awesome, but I really can't seem to grasp why everyone puts so much focus towards making sure their s4 has the latest version of android on their phone, even though, it's not really anywhere near stable enough for convenient every day use yet...
You'd think people would be more on the lookout for roms that are fully stable and fully harness their phone's potential instead of constantly flashing builds that could ruin their afternoon suddenly because something broke unexpectedly that they're used to having work perfectly?
I get that there needs to be development and testing, and it's all great work that's being done, but seriously, is there only this little number of stable S4 builds?
I don't care what anybody says, I haven't tried an LP rom yet that's been 100% stable, something always breaks and leaves me rolling back to KK just to have more peace of mind
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This things differ from user to user and phone to phone.
A rom might work 100% stable for me and might be very unstable for you. Happens all the time. I see users, running the same rom as me, who have issues that I don't have. Or vice-versa.
And I don't think "Stable" means necessarily bug free. I think it means more in the direction that it won't crash and won't give you random reboots, and that most of the stuff works (only minor problems).
People upgrade due to the performance improvements, battery life improvement potential and, possibly, because of new features and additions the rom and/or kernel has. And some people simply like to have the latest software.
If you have problems, you just go back to the previous version using the backup you (hopefully) made before flashing and wait for a fix.
So far I have run these roms: 5.0.1 GPE, CM12 Optimzed builds, SaberMod CM12 Builds, SaberMod CM12.1 builds and now Resurrection Remix, and haven't had any serious issues or issues that couldn't be fixed.
The only serious problem I ever had was with an early build of SaberMod CM12.1 where the sms app I was using (hello sms) kept crashing when receiving a message. This caused the notification to not show, meaning I could only see that I received a text message when I opened the app.
The most stable and bug free (for me at least) was Danvdh's 5.0.1 GPE rom.

rynoism said:
I hate to be a moaner, and don't get me wrong what you devs do is awesome, but I really can't seem to grasp why everyone puts so much focus towards making sure their s4 has the latest version of android on their phone, even though, it's not really anywhere near stable enough for convenient every day use yet...
You'd think people would be more on the lookout for roms that are fully stable and fully harness their phone's potential instead of constantly flashing builds that could ruin their afternoon suddenly because something broke unexpectedly that they're used to having work perfectly?
I get that there needs to be development and testing, and it's all great work that's being done, but seriously, is there only this little number of stable S4 builds?
I don't care what anybody says, I haven't tried an LP rom yet that's been 100% stable, something always breaks and leaves me rolling back to KK just to have more peace of mind
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It's because you assume everyone wants a bugfree rom. Some people just want cutting edge technology. Also if something is a bug for you, it doesn't mean that someone else is annoyed by it.
And I have to disagree with you. There are plenty of roms that are stable running Lollipop. Look for example at the CM 12.1. It's ready for daily use and rock solid. Sure there are some minor bugs, but nothing that annoys me.
Bottom line: It comes down to personal preference.