I didn't see a forum for the Active and I'm guessing one won't be made so I figured I'd start this thread for S7 Active questions and/or other information.
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I didn't see a forum for the Active and I'm guessing one won't be made so I figured I'd start this thread for S7 Active questions and/or other information.
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Good job man, yea I bought the active as well and wasn't seeing any threads pop up. I'm looking into finding exploits to unlock the bootloader right now.
I wish I had the type of skills for software development but I have none. What I can contribute is some experience with accessories I've tried and general use type of feedback.
I've bought a couple of cases for circumstances that warrant additional protection even though I usually carry the phone without one. I have the Otterbox Defender and I also bought a Bodyguardz case. I had a Zagg Glass protector installed and it works perfectly. Also, the naked s7 active fits perfectly in my old Seidio holster for my cased s5 and my old Note 4 holster fits perfectly on my s7 Active when I have it in the Bodyguardz case.
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Can it be unlocked and work with Tmobile?
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Can it be unlocked and work with Tmobile?
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Yes. I paid swiftunlocks $14.99 to unlock mine and I'm using it on T-Mobile.
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Yes. I paid swiftunlocks $14.99 to unlock mine and I'm using it on T-Mobile.
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Does the otterbox case work well with the screen protector you have on already?
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If you get this, but a screen protector IMMEDIATELY! In less than a week just carrying it in my pocket, the screen has some pretty significant scratches in it. The "shatterproof" plastic layer over the glass screen scratches extremely easy!
I'll be exchanging mine and applying a screen protector to the new one immediately, that being said... does anyone have any real life pictures of the gold? I'm debating exchanging my grey one for a gold one.
Other than that, I LOVE THE PHONE and wouldn't hesitate to pay the $100 premium over the standard S7 and definitely prefer it over the S7 Edge! Battery life is BEAST!
I've taken mine swimming, taken underwater videos/pics and no issues!
https://vimeo.com/172735022
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Does the otterbox case work well with the screen protector you have on already?
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Good question. I haven't used the Otterbox since I got the screen protector installed because I only use it when extreme protection is required (at work). I'm on vacation right now but I'll test it when I get back to work. The Bodyguardz case works just fine with it though.
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Nice video! Remind you of what the S7A can do. I put a screen protector on mine pretty quickly and managed a few weeks without any scratches while waiting for them to arrive.
Wasn't aware of the plastic outer-layer on the screen vs the glass on the regular S7s - obviously this is how they get the shatterproof rating.
Chris
I can vouch for the need to get a screen protector. I had mine for 5 days before the glass protector came in (Dmax Armor from Amazon) - and I have a hairline scratch in one small area of the screen.
It's so small an not even noticeable with the protector on that I'm too lazy to replace the phone - but to anyone else, don't even use the phone until you have a protector on the screen.
I work for the phone company so my working conditions are a little rough, but mine looked pretty bad after a week.
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Okay can confirm S7 Active water-resistant capabilities. Recently, on vaction in the gulf Mexico I decided to test my phone's IP-68 rating. I was on the beach and had some sand on the screen and needed to wash it off. I proceeded to the crashing waves and doused it in the ocean. I took some video which looked really good and had it in there for about a minute. Now I really put no thought to the whole salt=corrosive thing until after the fact. I dried it off with a towel shortly after and found the speaker muffled. Now this concerned me a little and read up on some articles about the regular S7's capabilities. Some reviews claimed it would permanently damage the speaker and that salt water was especially not recommended for fear of corrosion of the various ports. There were refutes on reddit about these facts but it didn't sound like they had ever tried it themselves. This is when the fear set in. I sat there on the beach with 5% charge left knowing already I couldn't charge my phone for a few hours until the moisture cleared out of the micro-usb port. This meant not knowing for HOURS whether the speaker would ever come back to normal and even if I could charge it may still be hours until it indeed does go back to normal. I decided on washing out the salt water with a tap water sink as recommended by Samsumg New Zealand in their ad about using the reg S7 for surfing. So, I finally was able to charge about 3 hours later and it still had a muffled. This sent me into a scare as I didn't want to ruin this brand new piece of expensive tech so quickly. I tried a method from reddit of sucking out the water and this definitely did help but it wasn't a complete solution, still muffled and crackling at the top end. Everything else worked at this point but microphone experienced muffling as well. The next morning I tried the audio and to my great relief it was fine along with everything else. I recommend not purposely exposing your S7 Active to anything but fresh water because Samsung did not test for corrosive characteristics that come with salt or chlorine pools or anything along those lines. But if you are trying to get an awesome shot of a coral reef definitely try to get iy as permanent damage is not likely as long as you stay in for a reasonable time and depth. Goodluck guys and share your experiences as well.
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I work for the phone company so my working conditions are a little rough, but mine looked pretty bad after a week.
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What a coincidence! So do I. That's one of the reasons I use an Otterbox Defender at times. If the phone is going up a telephone pole with me I want it to survive a 30 foot drop lol.
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What a coincidence! So do I. That's one of the reasons I use an Otterbox Defender at times. If the phone is going up a telephone pole with me I want it to survive a 30 foot drop lol.
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At&t?
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I can vouch for the need to get a screen protector. I had mine for 5 days before the glass protector came in (Dmax Armor from Amazon) - and I have a hairline scratch in one small area of the screen.
It's so small an not even noticeable with the protector on that I'm too lazy to replace the phone - but to anyone else, don't even use the phone until you have a protector on the screen.
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I also got a hairline scratch that you mentioned. I don't know when though. I literally had the phone in my pocket and still got the scratch. WTF?
Does anyone know how I can get a replacement phone from at&t since they won't take anything back for cosmetic reasons?
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I also got a hairline scratch that you mentioned. I don't know when though. I literally had the phone in my pocket and still got the scratch. WTF?
Does anyone know how I can get a replacement phone from at&t since they won't take anything back for cosmetic reasons?
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I got mine from Best Buy and was having issues with the first one staying connected to my bluetooth headset, so I insisted on an exchange. No issues.
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If you get this, but a screen protector IMMEDIATELY! In less than a week just carrying it in my pocket, the screen has some pretty significant scratches in it. The "shatterproof" plastic layer over the glass screen scratches extremely easy!
I'll be exchanging mine and applying a screen protector to the new one immediately, that being said... does anyone have any real life pictures of the gold? I'm debating exchanging my grey one for a gold one.
Other than that, I LOVE THE PHONE and wouldn't hesitate to pay the $100 premium over the standard S7 and definitely prefer it over the S7 Edge! Battery life is BEAST!
I've taken mine swimming, taken underwater videos/pics and no issues!
https://vimeo.com/172735022
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Ditto to the Screen Protector comment. If you have an Active, get a glass screen protector ASAP. Polycarbonate is great for durability, but NOT scuff or scratch resistance whatsoever.
Heres my S7 Active in Gold, with an $8 Supershieldz (2 pack) glass screen protector and an $8 Cimo TPU clear cover... Also a brief synopsis and review...
Samsung Galaxy S7 Active; brief 2 week review...
Camera
The camera is excellent, has approximately 11-11.5 stops of dynamic range (in RAW, obviously), and the OIS is fantastic. Very sharp (again in RAW) optics as well; about up there with my ancient Nikon D300 ($1700 new) with the excellent 18-200VR ($700 new) lens attached in terms of sharpness, BARELY less dynamic range, and the OIS works just as well as the Nikon VR lenses i own; highly impressed actually. VERY good low light, very low noise and no discernable noise pattern. I have not shot anything in JPEG; I usually drag a BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera with a Panasonic Lumix OIS 12-35 f2.8 lens around as well as my Nikon D300 with assorted stabilized zooms and prime optics as well, as i shoot and film everything in RAW (i filmed and shot ads, corp videos, music videos, etc professionally for several years). The S7 Active does NOT shoot RAW video, but one might be able to downsample 4k footage to a decent bitrate 1080p with very good results and much higher bitrates to play with. Dynamic range is limited in JPEG from what i've seen, although HDR more works pretty darn decently, in both video and photo modes. OIS is ALWAYS on, and AF tracking works pretty good; about the same as 3D Tracking on the Nikon D300, just a hair slower. AF is fast and accurate, nowhere near DSLR's, but WAY faster than most phones, and WAY faster and more accurate than 'Focus' push on the Blackmagic Pocket camera ($1,000 camera with an $800 stabilized lens), but that is to be expected from a camera you usually rig up and manually pull focus on anyways. Granted, both the BMD Pocket Camera and Nikon D300 are semi-professional cameras, aimed at professional/semi pro uses, designed to shoot RAW reliably, but the comparison came to mind and its worthwhile, as the quality is on par with them within reasonable use and expectations. Oh, and neither is water resistant, and the lenses certainly are not! Background pic i shot with the S7 Active; water condensation over a backlit chilled display case.
Apps/Carrier Bloatware
I have disabled all bloatware via paid app Package Disabler Pro (Samsung), tweaked and tested it out since launch day; it really does easily last about 30 hours with moderate use once tweaked; with most useful options enabled (even S-voice, NFC, Always-On Display and GPS). I have access to a totally vanilla, unmodified/untweaked S7 Active that i bought for my parents to compare with; GSAM battery stats etc, for a wholistic 'Out Of Box' vs tweaked comparison.
Ideally, and mostly for app/settings backup/misc tweaks, id like to see the S7 Active rooted, but i dont feel its entirely needed, all things considered. Mine is now SIM unlocked via AT&T and i have all bloatware disabled, greenified, and tweaked for even better battery life as well as a simple, smooth, one page launcher/one page dock to keep things nice, neat and clean. I travel a lot for work, sport, and vacations.
This appears to be the first fully featured, ruggedized flagship with no compromises (aside from locked to GSM and initially via AT&T only), but otherwise i have found no real faults. I prefer plastics and rubber over glass and metal; they tend to last longer and survive far better than pretty/elegant/unique metal/glass designs. I paid for it outright, and AT&T kindly sent me the SIM unlock code 2 days after i requested it, for free, as i am travelling to France, Greece, and Russia shortly to visit family and friends. I had a few friends who have had S4, S5, and S6 Actives and loved them, although 2 friends did manage to crack the screens on previous Active devices dropping them. Based on recent youtube stuff, i cant see that happening as frequently with the S7 Active due to the plastic laminated screen, though it will scratch easier.
just to clarify some specs, the screen is actually a laminate of polycarbonate plastic on top of Gorilla Glass 4, so while it is much improved in terms of shatter resistance, it is MUCH more prone to scratches, i highly recommend a glass screen protector so you dont scratch up the polycarb screen. I bought a SuperShieldz 2 pack for $8 that works great. the laminate plastic is NOT removable, so once scratched, its there permanently. A cheap case isnt a bad idea either, i bought a clear Cimo TPU cover for $8 for the hell of it.
I have never broken a screen yet, but i had dropped my phones a few times, never used screen protectors or cases/covers either, but figured for a few bucks, considering im much more into kayaking, hiking, biking, and skiing now, why the hell not? its a big device as is, and the battery actually holds up great; i have been consistently seeing 30 hours of battery life between charges, which is enough to get me through 2 days of moderate to heavy use in areas with terrible signal and no wi-fi.
Advanced tweaks, accessories
Adoptable storage really isnt needed; it CAN be done, but there's no going back besides a factory reset if you want things to work properly. I tried it for 3 days, and eventually reset and went back to external portable storage, and transferred all apps, data, pics, etc to ExtSD as well as scripted an auto transfer of all videos, pics, downloads, etc from internal to external storage nightly onto the 200GB microSD card i bought with Tasker. Also, im paranoid about wearing out the micro USB port as i did (twice) with my S4, so i bought a Samsung Fast Wireless Charger. Its just as fast as the regular, wired fast charger you get in the box, plus its basically just a tilted disc cradle with a Fast Charger plugged into it; same cable and power brick as the S7 Active charger you get in the box, so if, for whatever reason, you prefer wired charging (it does warm up a bit), or need a USB data transfer cable, the Fast Wireless Charger is the same thing, with the added wireless disc/cradle
The cheap clear TPU case and equally cheap (2 pack) glass screen protectors i bought are completely worth it. I prefer TPU for covers (i dont do cases; too bulky, and have typically been a nudist when it comes to phones); rubber collects every spec of dust and lint, silicone stretches too much and also collects lint, plastic transfers too much shock and is not flexible, TPU is JUST RIGHT for a phone cover, and with the S7 Active, you don't need a case, but just as added protection, a TPU cover is perfect. Do, however, get a glass screen cover; sensitivity/feedback is identical, zero bubbles/issues if applied properly, and your screen will stay perfect, again within reason. TPU also is rather slip resistant, which is nice, considering the metal parts of the frame are rather slippery, and the rubberized plastic is not that grippy, whereas TPU provides almost the same coefficient of friction as proper rubber cases, in wider temperatures, as well as being less prone to UV degradation and tearing over time.
Active exclusive features
The Active key is probably the best feature aside from durability (after you put on a screen protector, and maybe a cover/case), as its fully programmable to whatever app you like, which in my case is keyed to Camera on single press for normal or quick shots, and A-Light on long press, as i have the Active/S-Health setup elsewhere, and use Camera FV-5 for more natural control over shooting in RAW. The 4000Mah battery is also a huge bonus; zero complaints; with proper power management app settings and some tweaks, i haven't seen under 30 hours of medium to heavy usage, in areas with no wifi and low signal as well.
Tested Durability
While i dont like needlessly subjecting perfectly good electronics wastefully to redundant durability tests, i have washed the phone, with and without a screen protector (before it came), and TPU case (before and after it came), with windex, water, as well as shampoo, soap and water. I don't like to stress the micro USB port (S4 micro USB port died on me twice, though it was easy to get to and replace), so i bought a wireless charger. I am pretty careful with my electronics, but bumps, falls, etc happen; and i travel, bike, hike, kayak, etc as much as i can, and im glad i dont have to worry or baby this device.
Overall Impressions
Aside from being AT&T carrier locked (meaning you'd have to buy it outright and ask AT&T to unlock it, which they always have for me, or get it unlocked elsewhere), the bloatware is easily disabled, the features are on par with the S7/S7 Edge (minus Edge features), the battery is larger, the Active key (again, totally reprogrammable) is solid gold, and both the screen and camera are protected by a tiny lip, as well as rubberized corners, so damage is less likely, although the screen is polycarbonate covered, so prone to scuffs and scratches, however with a cheap screen protector and a cheap cover, these issues are totally mitigated.
Images are from a Galaxy S4, and the S7 Active shown has the aforementioned screen protector and TPU cover attached. Apologies for any linguistic discrepancies or errors; English is not my native tongue.
jlczl said:
Yes. I paid swiftunlocks $14.99 to unlock mine and I'm using it on T-Mobile.
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your choice what? I see so many 14.99$
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your choice what? I see so many 14.99$
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AT&T /Samsung /All Models
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AT&T /Samsung /All Models
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thank you
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The Otterbox for Note 3 is starting to pop up on the search engines. This is similar to a couple other sites that are advertising to dealers (not for the general public).
Will previous Note 2 Otterbox owners take a look at the design of the Note 3 case to see if the design changes are an improvement? I am most interested in the design around the home button.
I am a new user and I am not authorized to post links yet in my threads.
OtterBox - Defender Case Samsung Galaxy Note 3 in Glacier
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The one for note 2 is horrible. Worst screen protector. Just bad.
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The one for note 2 is horrible. Worst screen protector. Just bad.
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OtterBox cases are built like a brick Sh!t house, solid as all get out, but on a phone this big, they add way too much bulk for my taste.
Always hated the amount of bulk the otterbox brought to the table. I can understand if your in Construction or another physically demanding job like that. But for my use a normal size case will do just perfect.
I don't like the Otterbox cases at all. Its great they offer such good protection, but they look horrible.
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An OtterBox is a must for as I do home inspections and my report software has an app that allows me to use my phone in the field. I had an OtterBox on my GNex, RAZR MAXX HD and my Note 2 ... The one for the N2 was by far the worst! I'm hoping they make some drastic improvements on the Note 3 version!
This is typically a slow time of year for me, so hopefully I can wait for some reviews before I buy my OtterBox ... Or have time to search for a similar alternative if the reviews are not so great.
BTW- I agree with the post above ... Not a fan of the look/bulk OtterBox adds! It's by no means my "24 hour case"! As soon as the inspection is over I rip it off for a TPU case or something LOL.
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well my only real complaint with the Defender on my Note 2 was the screen protector, mainly because of the hole for the home button (I removed it for that reason) and that case looks to solve that with a nice redesign
I'm a big fan of these cases... yes I know they are very big and ontop of a N3 that's a lot but for me its worth it
The only thing I wish they would address is the notification light as it is hard to see from its hole
I do wish they would bring the defender out in something other than white or black though
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While looking for that case I saw these two .... didn't I just say I wish they had other colours
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An OtterBox is a must for as I do home inspections and my report software has an app that allows me to use my phone in the field. I had an OtterBox on my GNex, RAZR MAXX HD and my Note 2 ... The one for the N2 was by far the worst! I'm hoping they make some drastic improvements on the Note 3 version!
This is typically a slow time of year for me, so hopefully I can wait for some reviews before I buy my OtterBox ... Or have time to search for a similar alternative if the reviews are not so great.
BTW- I agree with the post above ... Not a fan of the look/bulk OtterBox adds! It's by no means my "24 hour case"! As soon as the inspection is over I rip it off for a TPU case or something LOL.
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In your line of work I would say absolutely on the Otterbox Defender with the holster. Their integrated screen protectors suck though so you might want to pop it out and use something like Spigen's Glas.tR Slim on it.
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In your line of work I would say absolutely on the Otterbox Defender with the holster. Their integrated screen protectors suck though so you might want to pop it out and use something like Spigen's Glas.tR Slim on it.
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I'm not a screen protector kinda guy... Never could get used to the feel of them. While I agree the Otterbox screen protector blows chunks, I prefer to leave it intact. I only use the Otterbox when conducting inspections ... Otherwise I'll be rocking one of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FC..._30332190_pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
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I'm not a screen protector kinda guy... Never could get used to the feel of them. While I agree the Otterbox screen protector blows chunks, I prefer to leave it intact. I only use the Otterbox when conducting inspections ... Otherwise I'll be rocking one of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FC..._30332190_pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
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You should check out the glass screen protectors. Worth the money
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You should check out the glass screen protectors. Worth the money
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Couldn't agree more. Had the Fantom glass protector on my gnex and after a year and a half still functioned perfect. When it was removed the gnex screen underneath was flawless. Also I'm a welder so I am very rough on my phones. Xgearlive has pre orders for the senteniel protector for the note 3, should be shipping out Nov 18th. Get one of those and remove the crappy Otterbox one and you're golden.
Has anyone got theirs yet?
Got the defender for note 2, the protection is superb, would love To get one for note 3 too.
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I got mine from the local Radio****. Excuse me, I meant shack...
Anyways, I was very surprised with how thin and flimsy the materials were.
The rubber is like the newer style cases that Otterbox has been making since the S3, so its a little more ridgid and not as soft as say the Razr and GalaxyNexus defenders. The plastics are very thin and have a lot of flex to them. There are also those little 1/4in tabs all the way around the case that snap together and hold the front to the back. You know, those lil bastards that eat your fingernail to the quick when you have to pry under them to get the case open. Hated when Otterbox went to that design.
The screen protector is just as bad as the previous defenders, and possibly more so. It has lots of rainbow effect and bubbles/impurities in the protector that make it look terrible. It might just be more noticeable because of the larger surface area. Comparing it to my Droid X, RAZR Maxx, Galaxy Nexus and S3 defender cases, it seems not as fine grainy (matte finish) bit rather more glossy and sticky. The Spen does not glide effortlessly across the surface as well as it does on the screen protector that came on the phone.
Next problem is the rubber shell. The cut out around the home button was not well thought out. The bottom center of the rubber is VERY floppy and is a pain to install on the case. I am woried that with the home button cut out and the cut out for the charging port will stretch out in a very short time. Or even worse, the thin area from the front cut out to the back cut out will tear when trying to remove the rubber. If you look at a picture of this case from the front view, all the material holding the front to rear cut outs is the width of about 4mm. Just where the home button begins to go up into the cut out area, that edge around the base of the rubber (part rolled over the edges of the hard plastic case underneath) is all that is holding both flaps together.
Not only that, but the cut out for the home button simply pops in that area made for it with 2 tiny lil nubs on the rubber part to keep it in place. The rubber actually goes pretty far in in that recess for the home button. I am afraid that in a short time between use and stretching the usb port opening from charging will make the home button flap pop out. What about dirt and stuff getting in around that home button flap? I mean COME ON OTTERBOX! You know when the users finger pushes down on thd home key, anything around that cut out is going right in the case.
With all that said, the case does feel fairly ridgid once installed on the phone. Partly due to the phone providing support to the case. I do not feel that the Note 3 Defender is as good a product as the past Defender cases I have owned (count 4 previous models).
Next is the belt clip. Very thin, VERY FLIMSY. The case snaps so hard into the clip, it sometimes takes 2 hands. And almost absolutely take 2 hands to get the damn thing off the belt clip. Part of that I attribute to the flimsy design of the clip. It flexes when you try to push the tab to remove the case. Piss poor design.
I will say this... for an Defender case it is very thin and light. I assume the thin/cheap build of the case was to cut down on the bulk added to an already very large phone. I can allow for that, but there are too many errors in design that could have been made better with some thinking.
However, there is absolutely no reason at all for the piece of crap belt clip.
Sorry if I was too vulgar with my descriptions. I just wanted to get the point across to anyone considering this case. Definitely look at it in a store before buying one.
Good luck
@fire3element - thanks for taking the time to write up your thoughts! After reading your review I'm glad I didn't wait on the Defender and instead went with the Ballistic SG Maxx! I was unhappy with the Defender for my Note 2 and it appears that disappointment continues with the Defender Note series ...
fire3element said:
I got mine from the local Radio****. Excuse me, I meant shack...
Anyways, I was very surprised with how thin and flimsy the materials were.
The rubber is like the newer style cases that Otterbox has been making since the S3, so its a little more ridgid and not as soft as say the Razr and GalaxyNexus defenders. The plastics are very thin and have a lot of flex to them. There are also those little 1/4in tabs all the way around the case that snap together and hold the front to the back. You know, those lil bastards that eat your fingernail to the quick when you have to pry under them to get the case open. Hated when Otterbox went to that design.
The screen protector is just as bad as the previous defenders, and possibly more so. It has lots of rainbow effect and bubbles/impurities in the protector that make it look terrible. It might just be more noticeable because of the larger surface area. Comparing it to my Droid X, RAZR Maxx, Galaxy Nexus and S3 defender cases, it seems not as fine grainy (matte finish) bit rather more glossy and sticky. The Spen does not glide effortlessly across the surface as well as it does on the screen protector that came on the phone.
Next problem is the rubber shell. The cut out around the home button was not well thought out. The bottom center of the rubber is VERY floppy and is a pain to install on the case. I am woried that with the home button cut out and the cut out for the charging port will stretch out in a very short time. Or even worse, the thin area from the front cut out to the back cut out will tear when trying to remove the rubber. If you look at a picture of this case from the front view, all the material holding the front to rear cut outs is the width of about 4mm. Just where the home button begins to go up into the cut out area, that edge around the base of the rubber (part rolled over the edges of the hard plastic case underneath) is all that is holding both flaps together.
Not only that, but the cut out for the home button simply pops in that area made for it with 2 tiny lil nubs on the rubber part to keep it in place. The rubber actually goes pretty far in in that recess for the home button. I am afraid that in a short time between use and stretching the usb port opening from charging will make the home button flap pop out. What about dirt and stuff getting in around that home button flap? I mean COME ON OTTERBOX! You know when the users finger pushes down on thd home key, anything around that cut out is going right in the case.
With all that said, the case does feel fairly ridgid once installed on the phone. Partly due to the phone providing support to the case. I do not feel that the Note 3 Defender is as good a product as the past Defender cases I have owned (count 4 previous models).
Next is the belt clip. Very thin, VERY FLIMSY. The case snaps so hard into the clip, it sometimes takes 2 hands. And almost absolutely take 2 hands to get the damn thing off the belt clip. Part of that I attribute to the flimsy design of the clip. It flexes when you try to push the tab to remove the case. Piss poor design.
I will say this... for an Defender case it is very thin and light. I assume the thin/cheap build of the case was to cut down on the bulk added to an already very large phone. I can allow for that, but there are too many errors in design that could have been made better with some thinking.
However, there is absolutely no reason at all for the piece of crap belt clip.
Sorry if I was too vulgar with my descriptions. I just wanted to get the point across to anyone considering this case. Definitely look at it in a store before buying one.
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Did they at least get rid of the air gap between the screen protector and screen? The note 2 had that problem which is why i didn't get it
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Did they at least get rid of the air gap between the screen protector and screen? The note 2 had that problem which is why i didn't get it
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To be honest, i'm not really sure. I still have the screen protector that came on the phone with it in the defender. There does not appear to be a gap though.
For anyone still on the fence about buying a case, wait till the end of next week. (11/22). Bastex Wireless on Amazon will have the ZeroLemon Note3 battery and rugged case available for sale. The ZeroLemon Rugged case is pretty decent quality (friend bought the Note2 one) and has a removable back plate to change out batteries without removing the plastic shell.
Take a look at this link for the Note 2 version rugged case: http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...d=1384700377&sr=8-3&keywords=zerolemon+note+2
And this is the link is for the actual ZeroLemon Note 2 battery: http://www.amazon.com/warranty-Zero...d=1384700452&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+note+2
For the same price of an Otterbox Defender, you are getting a decent rugged case that will allow for almost any battery configuration, and a true 3x capacity battery. I would suggest getting the stand alone battery charger so when the ZL battery dies you can take it out and pop in your charged stock battery.
FWIW I got an UAG case for my Note3 and so far really like it. http://www.urbanarmorgear.com/products/aero-glxn3
On edit: That Ballistic SG Maxx does look really good also! Is the outer part a grippy silicon type material?
As far as I know, the official otterbox for the N3 isn't released till Nov 22nd. All others if released already should be knockoffs, I could be wrong
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As far as I know, the official otterbox for the N3 isn't released till Nov 22nd. All others if released already should be knockoffs, I could be wrong
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I can assure you that the Otterbox Defender i got from RadioShack is legit.
On sunday, I pre ordered a 128gb s6 edge on tmobile's website, it arrived on tuesday, and as soon as I turned it on I noticed dead pixels and also i noticed under direct sunlight that the screen had scratches everywhere, i paid almost one thousand dollars for this and I found that unacceptable, so I called TMobile and they said I had to return the phone, wait until they refunded my money and then I could order another one OR I could buy another one and pay for it and return this one. So I just went ahead and placed another order and they overnighted a new phone to me. The phone arrived today, and it also has dead pixels or something black under the display (very noticebale) and also has a really scratched screen. The phone is nice, it works fine most of the time, but my problem is not with the software, it is with the lack of quality control Samsung is showing with this release.
I decided to return both phones, and i will be sticking with my iphone 6 until Samsung gets their act together, I dont want to throw Samsung under the but for a flagship phone, this issues should be non-existent. My advice to anyone that has ordered a s6 edge, is to check your screen for any dead pixels, and to check your phone;s screen under direct sunlight and see if you find any scratches.
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Don't be so sure that it's Samsung. Having this kind of issue twice in a row is a more likely sign of mishandling during delivery than an actual quality control issue.
I'd consider trying to see if I could get the device shipped to my carrier's local store for pickup, as delivery companies tend to be a bit more careful when shipping things to businesses than to consumers.
Same exact thing with my s6 edge 32gb. Small scratches allike over the screen.
My new one came today but I didn't open it yet to check.
Wow !! After that I will prefer to buy at the store after the April 10 !
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Don't be so sure that it's Samsung. Having this kind of issue twice in a row is a more likely sign of mishandling during delivery than an actual quality control issue.
I'd consider trying to see if I could get the device shipped to my carrier's local store for pickup, as delivery companies tend to be a bit more careful when shipping things to businesses than to consumers.
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I would find it virtually impossible for the delivery company to scratch the screen. Each phone should have a screen cover installed at the factory. The dirt under the glass or dead pixels with 2 units delivered to the same person is also disturbing.
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Oh wow! Mine is all scratched up as well =( Right when I took it out of the box I noticed a pretty substantial scratch on the display. Then when I looked more closely, in more revealing lighting, I saw that I had light scratches all over the entire display. I am NOT happy with this. I will be getting a regular S6 for review when I can. If some of you are seeing the same things that I am, then statistically speaking, this is a pretty wide-spread issue. If you and I are seeing these scratches, it means that others are as well. I will keep a close eye on this.
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I would find it virtually impossible for the delivery company to scratch the screen. Each phone should have a screen cover installed at the factory. The dirt under the glass or dead pixels with 2 units delivered to the same person is also disturbing.
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You'd only find it virtually impossible if you've never been inside of a UPS or FedEx shipping facility (probably the USPS too, but I havn't actually been to the inner portions of one of those). I actually have never received a FedEx package to my area that wasn't beat up to some degree.
When I say that packages are literally occasionally tossed several YARDS across a room, I'm not kidding. And if whoever is supposed to catch them misses, well... what goes up eventually comes down lol.
The use of screen/devices covers only has one real effect, and that's preventing EXCESSIVE dust. Obviously, dust is dust, and you can't just eliminate it. It'll do a bit to stop scratches, but if a bit of fine debris that just so happens to get trapped under the dust cover it can still lead to scratches if the device gets shaken about in the box. And of course it does nothing to protect against impact damage, which is one potential cause of dead pixels.
I want to see what happens when other carriers start shipping. On that note, what courier is responsible for T-Mobile orders?
Edit: I'm also going to assume that everyone around here is aware of the fact that Gorilla Glass is visible to the naked eye if you have sharp eyesight, and that the "scratches" probably aren't scratches if they're uniform and follow some sort of pattern (you'd be surprised how many people thought they had scratched devices in the early days of Gorilla Glass lol).
Any pictures from any of you?
I just checked my screen. Zero scratches. Scared me for a second.
i expect these devices are assembled in vacuumed containers, in a similar fashion to hard drives, as such dust/particles are a non issue and it isnt possible to get dust under one of the plastic covers unless they are tampered with down the line - again this would just be my expectation but i would be surprised if this assessment wasnt accurate.
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i expect these devices are assembled in vacuumed containers, in a similar fashion to hard drives, as such dust/particles are a non issue and it isnt possible to get dust under one of the plastic covers unless they are tampered with down the line - again this would just be my expectation but i would be surprised if this assessment wasnt accurate.
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You expect alot from mass manufacturing/assembly lol.
The kind of operation you're talking about would be more likely to be found when dealing with either small-scale manufacturing or manufacturing of devices that never touch human hands before reaching the consumer. Neither case applies to Samsung devices.
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Oh wow! Mine is all scratched up as well =( Right when I took it out of the box I noticed a pretty substantial scratch on the display. Then when I looked more closely, in more revealing lighting, I saw that I had light scratches all over the entire display. I am NOT happy with this. I will be getting a regular S6 for review when I can. If some of you are seeing the same things that I am, then statistically speaking, this is a pretty wide-spread issue. If you and I are seeing these scratches, it means that others are as well. I will keep a close eye on this.
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Oh no Both S6 Edges I have received both have the scratched screens. This is bad.
while thats true, it is a proceedure in place for hard drives, they literally will not work if there is a single speck of dust on the platter - if anything at all interferes with the read-head it will scratch the platter and bam dead hard drive.
it is entirely possible they dont use vacuum chambers for assembling phones however, I will grant you that lol
just try to clean the screen !
i thought i scratched my NoteEdge too but after i clean the screen, the scratches are gone !
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netnerd said:
just try to clean the screen !
i thought i scratched my NoteEdge too but after i clean the screen, the scratches are gone !
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Doesn't work.
There is no distinct pattern . They go in every which direction. I haven't seen this before and trust me when I say, I have reviewed A LOT of phones. It's strange to see gorilla glass 4 scratching this way. I have had my Note 4 for many months and it looks fantastic. I can see a few hairline scratches but nothing like what I already see on this less than a day old S6 Edge. At this point, I really can't pin down the cause. However, this is not made up. When I was at MWC I saw many, many models and didn't see any scratches on the displays. You bet once this device is more widely released that I will be exchanging mine!
So for those with scratched screens... how have you tried to go about cleaning them? And do the T-Mobile units come with a dust cover or a screen protector? If it's the latter, you might definitely want to try cleaning them as you could just be seeing small bits of adhesive.
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There is no distinct pattern . They go in every which direction. I haven't seen this before and trust me when I say, I have reviewed A LOT of phones. It's strange to see gorilla glass 4 scratching this way. I have had my Note 4 for many months and it looks fantastic. I can see a few hairline scratches but nothing like what I already see on this less than a day old S6 Edge. At this point, I really can't pin down the cause. However, this is not made up. When I was at MWC I saw many, many models and didn't see any scratches on the displays. You bet once this device is more widely released that I will be exchanging mine!
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Do you have black or white?
Scratches are scratches...
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So for those with scratched screens... how have you tried to go about cleaning them? And do the T-Mobile units come with a dust cover or a screen protector? If it's the latter, you might definitely want to try cleaning them as you could just be seeing small bits of adhesive.
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There was the standard plastic dust protector. All looked perfect as I pulled it out of that sleeve. Immediately I looked at the display and saw a pretty deep scratch. I thought it was adhesive and I rubbed at it. It didn't go away. Then I could feel it with my fingernail. Next I looked at the entire display in the light and I saw hairline scratches all over the place. Something is definitely going on here.
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Do you have black or white?
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Mine is black but I can't see that mattering much, unless one particular factory dealt with our models and they were only black...
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There was the standard plastic dust protector. All looked perfect as I pulled it out of that sleeve. Immediately I looked at the display and saw a pretty deep scratch. I thought it was adhesive and I rubbed at it. It didn't go away. Then I could feel it with my fingernail. Next I looked at the entire display in the light and I saw hairline scratches all over the place. Something is definitely going on here.
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That's very odd, and does sound like the sort of thing that would happen when there's a combination of an issue with fine debris getting trapped under the dust cover and the device being shaken about during shipping as it's unlikely that such a thing would pass any QA inspections.
The only unusual thing is that you said there was a DEEP scratch, and fine debris wouldn't cause that. Larger debris could, but that would indicate someone just being careless while packaging the device.
I'm thinking about getting the S8 when it comes out. Just curious how the S7 Edge has been holding up for launch / long term users since the form factor will be similar. My wife and I are on the Next plan with Galaxy S5s and we tend to keep our phones for a couple of years, so I want to make sure they will be sturdy enough to last.
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I'm thinking about getting the S8 when it comes out. Just curious how the S7 Edge has been holding up for launch / long term users since the form factor will be similar. My wife and I are on the Next plan with Galaxy S5s and we tend to keep our phones for a couple of years, so I want to make sure they will be sturdy enough to last.
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Get a case. Great feel to the phone. But drop it on the edge and it's done. The corner more so than the edge.
I've had the ATT S7 Edge since pre-order, even have the Gear VR to prove it (not that I've used that a lot).
I have an alloy bumper case on it, Skinomi matte full body protector, and it's in fine shape.
No problem even after hundreds of miles in my camelbak while mountain biking, various hiking, summer driving trip to Canada, etc.
Disclaimer, I use wireless charging almost exclusively, a magnetic data cable the rest of the time (which saves wear and tear on the micro-usb port), and mostly listen to music from it over bluetooth (about 60-40 split between that and wired headphones).
Thanks everyone. I'm a case guy, so any phone we get will have a case. Do any of the screen protectors work well on the curved screen?
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Thanks everyone. I'm a case guy, so any phone we get will have a case. Do any of the screen protectors work well on the curved screen?
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I stopped watching closely about four months ago, but never saw anything about a reliable TGSP so I have stuck with wet-apply film. Works for me as I like the matte finish more (although matte finish makes GearVR weird).
The other thing to watch out for is screen protector vs case interference, been a lot of that, and some of the protectors have come out with case friendly variants to compensate. Lots of specific discussion around it so dig/search a bit.
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I've had the ATT S7 Edge since pre-order, even have the Gear VR to prove it (not that I've used that a lot).
I have an alloy bumper case on it, Skinomi matte full body protector, and it's in fine shape.
No problem even after hundreds of miles in my camelbak while mountain biking, various hiking, summer driving trip to Canada, etc.
Disclaimer, I use wireless charging almost exclusively, a magnetic data cable the rest of the time (which saves wear and tear on the micro-usb port), and mostly listen to music from it over bluetooth (about 60-40 split between that and wired headphones).
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Heyy these all look like super great products. But isnt the metal case a bit cheap for being made of metal?
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Heyy these all look like super great products. But isnt the metal case a bit cheap for being made of metal?
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it is, only mass Chinese manufacturing can accomplish that. Or something.
Works great for what it is though, bit of protection where I want it, and not where I don't. Covers the edges of the screen protectors. No visible wear on the silver one I just swapped out. Between this thread and a co-worker making me look at things again I decided to spend another 10$ and get a red ano one. {shrug}
Good day to all S9+ (and S9 for that matter) owners.
3 years ago i posted on this forum about how the Samsung S6 Clear view case causes the screen to scratch very easily. Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
I have now purchased a Samsung S9+ with the latest Clear View case and guess what? Same thing. After 1 day of fitting it, my screen is scratched. Luckily, based on my previous experience with this type of case, i was more aware of potential damage to the screen and kept on monitoring it until the first scratch and tiny hole appeared on my screen. I really had high hopes that Samsung learned from their mistake and manufactured a better case with different materials, which by the looks of it, it does look like it was made using different materials, however, Samsung failed to really put these cases through normal usage tests before releasing them to the public.
Anyone else noticed this?
Using it for last couple of months and find no issue whtsoever .. No scratches or anything ..
All it takes is one piece of something abrasive to get stuck between the cover and the screen to scratch it.. I'd use a screen protector with a case like that.
My friend put one on his S8+, screen is scratched too, I'd guess something got in there while it was in his pocket.
My friend has the same issue with his clear view case... He's now using a 3rd party case instead.
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Good day to all S9+ (and S9 for that matter) owners.
3 years ago i posted on this forum about how the Samsung S6 Clear view case causes the screen to scratch very easily. Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
I have now purchased a Samsung S9+ with the latest Clear View case and guess what? Same thing. After 1 day of fitting it, my screen is scratched. Luckily, based on my previous experience with this type of case, i was more aware of potential damage to the screen and kept on monitoring it until the first scratch and tiny hole appeared on my screen. I really had high hopes that Samsung learned from their mistake and manufactured a better case with different materials, which by the looks of it, it does look like it was made using different materials, however, Samsung failed to really put these cases through normal usage tests before releasing them to the public.
Anyone else noticed this?
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galijanach said:
Good day to all S9+ (and S9 for that matter) owners.
3 years ago i posted on this forum about how the Samsung S6 Clear view case causes the screen to scratch very easily. Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
I have now purchased a Samsung S9+ with the latest Clear View case and guess what? Same thing. After 1 day of fitting it, my screen is scratched. Luckily, based on my previous experience with this type of case, i was more aware of potential damage to the screen and kept on monitoring it until the first scratch and tiny hole appeared on my screen. I really had high hopes that Samsung learned from their mistake and manufactured a better case with different materials, which by the looks of it, it does look like it was made using different materials, however, Samsung failed to really put these cases through normal usage tests before releasing them to the public.
Anyone else noticed this?
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That's good to know!
Thanks for the info. Samsung cases are just to pricey.
I bought my note9 together with Samsung clear view case and screen protector. Screen protector applied right after phone unboxing. So, even a clear view case is used, it is good to put as well a screen ptotector.
My first Samsung was Galaxy 7. I got a very good in-store rebate of $250, for a 2 yr old G3! I always keep my stuff for the most part, pristine. I take pride in that. Got a bluetooth speaker, screen protector, and then a cheaper incipio case. I have to say that the incipio is a very durable brand. I have an s9 plus now and still bought one of those. I have dropped my phone a few times where i thought it was going to be cracked, but it came through every time. It is open faced, but i used cellhelmet w/gorilla glass 6, and not one scratch. I also purchased a belt case. Really decent case as well. I could never see getting those bulky cases. If you don't know about the incipio, it comes in 2 pieces. A rubber inner shell, and a rubber coated ceramic outer shell. Sounds like it would be fragile? When snugs around the phone it reinforces the outer. ??
Hello, my original screen protector is coming off
What do you suggest should I do? Samsung does not change it, does it?
I read the glass screen protectors on the market are not so goods, too may problems with fingerprints and so on..
Well just buy a new one from amazon... I. Just order a 2 pack spigen pack 7.99 on amazon... This one has light scratches and the spigen on my note 9 is brilliant...
On the finger print side can't say as haven't put it but will tomorrow. People on the reviews say it works fine so...
Samsung does not replace it but they offer a similar version to the OEM that came on the phone. I remember seeing a lot of talk about them being $29.xx for a three pack. That seemed kind of high to me when for not much more you could do the Dome Glass. There have been mixed reviews of the Dome Glass. The most common complaint seems to be that it is difficult to install. It looks simple and straight forward, watching the videos on YouTube, but in the real world things are never perfect. There is one video on YouTube, 14 screen protectors for the S10+, or something like that and the vlogger puts on, tests and talks about all 14 different screen protectors. If you don't want to watch the whole video, it kind of long, he lists his recommendations in order from the best to the worst in the video notes. Over at Android Central I posted a question about this, https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...dome-glass-stock-something-else-new-post.html, and was surprised how many people are going without anything. I keep watching the front camera area for scratches and have just about convinced myself to go naked too. Mine isn't lifting up but it is pretty scratched up with a few deep enough to feel.
Just use it without the film. The sensivity in fingerprint sensor is amazing!
I am using this one from amazon and found it really good.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07RW748Q4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I saw that some protector are above the camera, others not. I read that it is not good for the lens to have a film over.. Am I right?
Screen protectors don't provide drop protection for phones with edge to edge displays and minimal bezels because the vast majority of the time a phone gets dropped on one of its sides rather than the area the screen protector is covering.
But people who walk around with their phone in their pocket or in a bag will scratch up their displays if they don't use a screen protector. The display doesn't ever have to come into contact with anything as obvious as coins or keys to get scratched--particles of sandlike grit that turn up inside a pocket will scratch a smartphone screen.
Whether or not you need a screen protector pretty much depends on how you carry your phone but people who think they are purchasing drop protection often end up disappointed.
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Well just buy a new one from amazon... I. Just order a 2 pack spigen pack 7.99 on amazon... This one has light scratches and the spigen on my note 9 is brilliant...
On the finger print side can't say as haven't put it but will tomorrow. People on the reviews say it works fine so...
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Spigen neoflex had bad orange peel effect on the note 8 and note 9 series.
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Spigen neoflex had bad orange peel effect on the note 8 and note 9 series.
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Not on mine and to be fair on this one have put it on at around 4 pm is really good now dry and clear...
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Not on mine and to be fair on this one have put it on at around 4 pm is really good now dry and clear...
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Post a pic with the light reflecting of it.
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Post a pic with the light reflecting of it.
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Hope this helps...
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Hope this helps...
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Thanks for taking the time taking pics, their film has too much orange peel for my liking.
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Well I thought that was bad as soon I put it but after a few hrs the marks do go away and its nice... Well the protection vs the original is better to be fair
Also worth mentioning that the blue light filter is on the the pics and is almost all the way up... So maybe why looks orange.