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Google Services Battery Drain
To all of you having Google Services battery drain, I think I found a fix.
With last Google Services update and the last Google Maps update, sometimes it drains almost half of total battery.
I myself have spent the last week trying to see what is happening with this topic, trying to find in every thread or forum across the internet: XDA, HTCMania, AndroidCentral and even Google official forums for this annoying topic. Posted in every forum I could and tried to find an easy way, but for some people, this bug doesn´t exist.
When I write "No Google Services battery drain", I mean that this is not appearing in the battery graph.
I made a clean install of my ROM with no sync from Google, so I could see what´s the source of such battery drain. I started to disabled the "Location Access" at Settings.
I started to install only Google Search and use device a couple of hours with it. Google Search/Google Now ask for the Google Services, so I installed and used it. The Google Settings app(the one with the green icon) had disabled the "Location History" and "Reporting Location". No Google Services battery drain.
I enabled the last two to see if this could be the culprit of the battery drain and used device for a couple of hours more. No Google Services battery drain.
Then I installed Google Maps and just enabled GPS in "Location Access" and used the device again. No Google Services battery drain.
After that, I enabled "Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location" on "Location Access" and then... Voilà!. Google Services started to appear in the battery graph.
I discovered that the drain come specifically from this option in Location settings: Settings > Location Access > Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location.
I left GPS Satellites checked and even with that, no more Google Services drain. All the drain come from the other option, and is more noticeable when you are connected to WiFi.
No need to disable other Location services nor other settings about locations, just leave that option unchecked and Google Services won´t even appear in the battery graph.
I have been running my device with all Locations settings enabled except the "Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location" and Google Services is not even show on battery graph.
Hope it helps.
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Android System Battery Drain
About Android System battery drains, I have found 2 posts that could help of people who made tests and possibly resolved the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44537106&postcount=7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44541018&postcount=5
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UPDATES
Aug 01, 2013 - I tried to install new Google Play Store and new Google Services framework and still is the same.
Aug 07, 2013 - Updated Google Services Framework to 3.2.25(Although Play Store says 3.0.25 is the last one) to test if enabling WiFi location has impact on battery. Reporting Location and Location History are disabled for this test.
Aug 08, 2013 - The battery drain has decreased a lot with latest update, it is now just 5% of total battery life until now(22hrs since charged). I ´m going to leave battery discharges and then make a new battery cycle with Reporting Location and Location History enabled to see if the problem is totally gone about location battery drains.
Aug 09, 2013 - It´s been 5 hours since I unplugged phone from charger, I have Google Services at 10% of my battery and my Screen with 30 mins. At first, Google Services drain showed 20% on the battery graph for the first hour I think, and then it seems to decrease and stay normal again. I will post tomorrow the final results. Remember that for this test I´m having enabled all the possibly Location settings on phone(both Google Now settings and Location Access settings).
Aug 10, 2013 - The first battery cycle was ok, with all the Location settings enabled both in Settings and in Google Now, gave me a total of 8% battery drain in a full day, most of the time in 3G and not in WiFi like the other tests I did. It seems that new update of Google Play Services helped a lot with this drains, because the drain of Google Services is still below of the System itself. I will report later when the battery life improve, because first cycles are always bad in terms of battery life.
Aug 12, 2013 - It seems that the battery drain problem is fixed with last update. I made 2-3 battery cycles and the drain at the end is the same, around 7%-10%, something that looks normal and below when comparing to the "Phone Idle" or "Android System" battery drain. Of course you can disable the Location options, specially the WiFi Location option to make the Google Services battery drain be lower, but people is reporting Google Now and other apps not working properly. Maybe is the way that Android 4.3 works now. Still the battery is still improved from Android 4.2.2, so I´m quite happy right now with the tests and the results.
Aug 13, 2013 - Here are the results for the tests. I maybe should call these results the final ones, until something else happens. The screenshots are pretty self explanatory. The first one is about the battery drain over night, and the other two about the battery life at the end of the day.
Aug 21, 2013 - I made a full wipe and clean installation of PA 3.97 to test if drain could be also ROM sided fro any reason, but the news is that with a clean installation and latest updates for every Google product, the drain is the same fro Google Services(around 5%-8%). For all the previous test I was using pure AOSP build.
Sep 09, 2013 - Some users reported that latest updates are making the problem reappear, so I link the post with the latest free drain version of Google Now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45332135&postcount=161.
Sep 13, 2013 - I have installed PSX ROM with PSX GAPPS(based on BaNkS) and the Google Services drain is the same, around 5%-8% after a normal usage day. I don't report any problem.
Sep 20, 2013 - I have flashed Purity ROM and Purified Kernel and the Google Services drain is a little bit higher, around 10%, but still have good battery and performance.
Sep 24, 2013 - The opportunity now is for PSX v7 with default kernel(SiMa). Google Services drain is behaving normally, around 10%. It seems that the last update from September increased a little the Google Services wakelock. Still is performing well and it is a decent drain.
Sep 30, 2013 - Added some useful information and solution from user 511pf: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46054200&postcount=227
Oct 24, 2013 - I flashed PSX 8.2 with default kernel, a very battery friendly and balanced kernel. Google Services drain is good, around 8%.
Oct 30, 2013 - I make a clean install of PSX 8.5 with new kernel and Google Services still are around 8%. No major problems with them.
Nov 12, 2013 - I came back to stock to wait for the Android 4.4 update, and the Google Services remain the same: around 7%. No major issues presented and battery drain over night is around 5% for 9 hours.
FINAL UPDATE: Nov 23, 2013 - I flashed stock image for Android 4.4 and Play Services drain reappeared. The problem is, after some researching, that KitKat has "modes" for location settings. There are 3 modes: high precision, battery friendly and device only. The first two drain battery as hell, but the third one makes the Play Services drain completely gone. With this in mind, widgets and Google Now are still fully functional, just Near Places is not available as well as some apps that need location, because it will work with just the GPS. My battery has greatly increased after I made this change.
I won't be continuing with this thread because I already sold my Nexus 4 and I got a Nexus 5, so I'm moving on. I will ask a moderator if it possible to make this thread a sticky thread so it will continue to be available to all the Nexus 4 users.
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sweet! i'll test and confirm that soon.
i'll leave the GPS on, but the wifi off. (GPS will stay off even if checked because i barely use it)
and yes, you are right, in betterbatterystats, i get alot of location checking, and my country doesn't even support location reporting
Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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mine no, I'm waiting for the stable versiob of PAC ROM.
So meanwhile, I'm going for this solution
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Srikks said:
Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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Riro Zizo said:
mine no, I'm waiting for the stable versiob of PAC ROM.
So meanwhile, I'm going for this solution
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Yesterday I did a full wipe of my phone(even sdcard) and restored everything from scratch to stock 4.2.2 image, and then update came to 4.3 few minutes later.
As far as I know, the problem still persists because in the time I was making wizard and setting up all the options for every app I have, I was seeing battery drain with the WiFi Location option enabled and when I finished setting up all, the Google Services drain was about 20% in a time of 2 hours.
I disabled the option, and currently I don´t have this drain again, but it is just the first day, so I will enable it today and will report tonight with results.
It is 9:00AM exactly now, I´m enabling the option now.
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Is your device running latest 4.3 ? I remember reading that 4.3 has a fix for this issue.
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mine no, I'm waiting for the stable versiob of PAC ROM.
So meanwhile, I'm going for this solution
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These are the results, the drain is still there although it is not much in 4.3. I have say to say that battery improvement is huge in this new version, so maybe this could matters directly with the drain.
I think still that is better to uncheck that option is not needed, so 10% of your battery or more won't be affected by this wakelock.
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Guys I am facing such extremely annoying Google Services (DownloadManager in BBS) battery drain + mobile/wifi data usage issue and I have been searching for some hours.
First of all I have tried the most answered solution - clearing the data of all those stuffs related to Google Services - well it did not work so well.
Then I don't think freezing download manager / factory reset / restrict background data / disabling google services framework are good solutions as I myself did not make changes related to this recently so a factory reset should not be needed, plus the other mentioned solutions would cause syncing issues with Google and this doesn't suit my lifestyle of heavily depending on various google services.
Many of you have proposed that the massive download / repeated downloads are related to downloading the 4.3 OTA and that might be possible according to the similar file sizes as well as logcats you have found. But on the other hand one of the solution - disabling Network Locations settings has also stopped the "download" triangle from constantly staying there when my wifi is on. Therefore we can conclude that it is partially related to the 4.3 OTA download which cannot be disabled on our custom ROMs, as well as partially about the stock Network Location settings.
Fortunately after many posts that do not provide a feasible answer I have found this xda post which addresses the issue related to the Google Play Store 4.1.6. Some of the users have reported that 4.1.10 has fixed the issue and some even said the newest version 4.2.9 is over the internet since 25/7 together with 4.3 update.
Not sure why such critical update did not roll out to the unluckily bunch of us from Google, but I have found the Android Police source about 4.1.10 fixing the "Network Location bug which hogs the battery" and hopefully this will stop the DownloadManager wakelock as well as the crazy battery drain + data drain by Google Services.
I haven't tested this thoroughly because I will probably need a day to check out whether it stops the crazy behaviour but I would just like to share with you guys my founding as soon as possible so you guys can try it out together with me. The latest Google Play Store 4.2.9 apk can be downloaded from Android Police here.
Hope I have helped! Good luck to you and me!
PS sorry for the duplicating post in the same Q&A forum of N4 but I really want to help as many people as possible.
downloading latest playstore... will test... and btw, greenifying google services won't break sync
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Miasmic said:
Guys I am facing such extremely annoying Google Services (DownloadManager in BBS) battery drain + mobile/wifi data usage issue and I have been searching for some hours.
First of all I have tried the most answered solution - clearing the data of all those stuffs related to Google Services - well it did not work so well.
Then I don't think freezing download manager / factory reset / restrict background data / disabling google services framework are good solutions as I myself did not make changes related to this recently so a factory reset should not be needed, plus the other mentioned solutions would cause syncing issues with Google and this doesn't suit my lifestyle of heavily depending on various google services.
Many of you have proposed that the massive download / repeated downloads are related to downloading the 4.3 OTA and that might be possible according to the similar file sizes as well as logcats you have found. But on the other hand one of the solution - disabling Network Locations settings has also stopped the "download" triangle from constantly staying there when my wifi is on. Therefore we can conclude that it is partially related to the 4.3 OTA download which cannot be disabled on our custom ROMs, as well as partially about the stock Network Location settings.
Fortunately after many posts that do not provide a feasible answer I have found this xda post which addresses the issue related to the Google Play Store 4.1.6. Some of the users have reported that 4.1.10 has fixed the issue and some even said the newest version 4.2.9 is over the internet since 25/7 together with 4.3 update.
Not sure why such critical update did not roll out to the unluckily bunch of us from Google, but I have found the Android Police source about 4.1.10 fixing the "Network Location bug which hogs the battery" and hopefully this will stop the DownloadManager wakelock as well as the crazy battery drain + data drain by Google Services.
I haven't tested this thoroughly because I will probably need a day to check out whether it stops the crazy behaviour but I would just like to share with you guys my founding as soon as possible so you guys can try it out together with me. The latest Google Play Store 4.2.9 apk can be downloaded from Android Police here.
Hope I have helped! Good luck to you and me!
PS sorry for the duplicating post in the same Q&A forum of N4 but I really want to help as many people as possible.
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downloading latest playstore... will test... and btw, greenifying google services won't break sync
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Don't lose your time with that article. Drain happened to me with Google Play Store 4.1.10 and also with Google Play Store 4.2.9. I was a completely week trying to install every Play Store I could and never worked.
Indeed most of test were made with 4.2.9, and the only way I could stop Google Services to appear in the battery graph was unchecking the option I mentioned before. At least for me, this is the only thing it worked to stop this.
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Don't lose your time with that article. Drain happened to me with Google Play Store 4.1.10 and also with Google Play Store 4.2.9. I was a completely week trying to install every Play Store I could and never worked.
Indeed most of test were made with 4.2.9, and the only way I could stop Google Services to appear in the battery graph was unchecking the option I mentioned before. At least for me, this is the only thing it worked to stop this.
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Same here. Only way was to disable the WiFi location. No fix in sight until Google decides to fix it themselves
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Turning this off means Google Now will stop working.
It is useful sometimes though...so if anyone knows of an alternative way...
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aeoveu said:
Turning this off means Google Now will stop working.
It is useful sometimes though...so if anyone knows of an alternative way...
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Google Now won´t stop working, because it still has access to location, but not being pushing and receiving data all the time, what makes the wakelock and the battery drain.
I have only that option unchecked and still having functional Google Now, but just to note that there will be a warning saying that locations settings are not optimized or something like that. Also in Google Maps happens the same, but still we have the GPS if app uses any location.
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Google Now won´t stop working, because it still has access to location, but not being pushing and receiving data all the time, what makes the wakelock and the battery drain.
I have only that option unchecked and still having functional Google Now, but just to note that there will be a warning saying that locations settings are not optimized or something like that. Also in Google Maps happens the same, but still we have the GPS if app uses any location.
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Well, for me, it asked me to enable location settings in order to use maps and Google now (I don't use GPS cause it doesn't work indoors here...we have houses and buildings made of concrete).
Did you enable WiFi location scanning after disabling Google apps location access? I can't get a location in Google now.
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Here's what I get.
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put access to my location on, the untick wifi and keep gps on.
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But for that, GPS needs to work indoors, right?
My GPS chip was fired up. :s
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aeoveu said:
Well, for me, it asked me to enable location settings in order to use maps and Google now (I don't use GPS cause it doesn't work indoors here...we have houses and buildings made of concrete).
Did you enable WiFi location scanning after disabling Google apps location access? I can't get a location in Google now.
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Here's what I get.
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This is correct:
Riro Zizo said:
put access to my location on, the untick wifi and keep gps on.
swipe this away
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But for that, GPS needs to work indoors, right?
My GPS chip was fired up. :s
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About the GPS, you are right in the part that GPS won't easily lock indoors, but this is maybe the price we have to pay to have a really good battery. Remember that this is just a work-around to this bug, not a fix. Google is the one who should make a fix in future releases for this insane battery drain.
With 4.3, I'm able to obtain a full day without a charge leaving all the location settings enabled, but although Google Services drain is around 15%, it constantly keeps the device active and consume battery .
You should consider enabling the Wifi Location option just when you need it, because is what I do. I barely use the location settings for anything, but when I need it for any app, I just enable the option, make what I have to do, and then disabled it to keep battery.
Below I share my battery stats with the tip I just wrote.
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Anyone tried the latest version. It doesn't show on updates so you have to go to direct link. Touch wood it has improved things for me so far.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
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Anyone tried the latest version. It doesn't show on updates so you have to go to direct link. Touch wood it has improved things for me so far.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms
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I´m testing right now the new version and see if there is any change about the drain to make the feedback.
One weird thing I noticed is this link is showing 3.0.25 as the latest, but I have on my phone 3.2.25 installed.
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@stuart0001
It seems that new Google Services update helped a lot with the drain. Right now, the drain is only 5% with 22 hours of battery life.
My phone's battery has been sucked dry way too fast since ~may 25.
I am and have always been on stock rom, and I only rooted the phone this weekend in order to use BetterBatteryStats and Wakelock Detector.
I estimate that during a day of heavy use for me before the end of may, the battery usage cannot have been much above 5%/h
According to BBS the phone used 6.4%/h over 7h30m this morning with less than a minute of screen on-time.
None of these things have helped significantly:
Disabling automatic syncing
Setting location mode to "device only"
Uninstalling EVERY third-party app except these most essential: Authy, Barcode Scanner, BetterBatteryStats, Dropbox, DSB Wildcard, LastPass, Sleep as Android (and addons), SuperSU.
Factory reset
*Upgrading to Android 4.4.3
Disabling WiFi to see if that would make a difference
Disabling mobile network data
Using recovery mode to wipe cache
My conclusions (please correct me if i'm wrong):
The drain is not caused by any third party app that I have removed without seeing an improvement
The drain is not caused by Google's location service or account syncing
The cause is not Android itself. I used 4.4.2 for 6 months without problems, and I only upgraded to 4.4.3 last week
The problem is independent of location (WiFi and cell towers). During the 7h30m when I collected the data below and got the corresponding graph, I was both at home, at work and commuting between the two, and I can't see any difference on the graph.
The problem is not related to the runtime, because i used ART almost since it was released with android 4.4 and after the factory reset I have used Dalvik
My suspects:
The issue started while the new version of Google Play Services was rolling out. Maybe it ****ed something up?
Batteries consist of multiple "cells" right? Maybe one of them (about 50% I think) broke?
I have uploaded a logfile from BetterBatteryStats below. That data was collected with account syncing disabled, location mode set to "device only" and only the third-party apps mentioned above installed.
Please contribute with any relevant insight or idea, and don't hesitate to ask for more info or propose experiments, to narrow down the possibilities.
Thanks
Styrkefuglen said:
My phone's battery has been sucked dry way too fast since ~may 25.
I am and have always been on stock rom, and I only rooted the phone this weekend in order to use BetterBatteryStats and Wakelock Detector.
I estimate that during a day of heavy use for me before the end of may, the battery usage cannot have been much above 5%/h
According to BBS the phone used 6.4%/h over 7h30m this morning with less than a minute of screen on-time.
None of these things have helped significantly:
*Disabling automatic syncing
*Setting location mode to "device only"
*Uninstalling EVERY third-party app except these most essential: Authy, Barcode Scanner, BetterBatteryStats, Dropbox, DSB Wildcard, LastPass, Sleep as Android (and addons), SuperSU.
*Factory reset
*Upgrading to Android 4.4.3
Disabling WiFi to see if that would make a difference
Disabling mobile network data
My conclusions (please correct me if i'm wrong):
The drain is not caused by any third party app that I have removed without seeing an improvement
The drain is not caused by Googles location service or account syncing
The cause is not Android itself. I used 4.4.2 for 6 months without problems, and I only upgraded to 4.4.3 last week
The problem is independent of location (WiFi and cell towers). During the 7h30m when I collected the data below and got the corresponding graph, I was both at home, at work and commuting between the two, and I can't see any difference on the graph.
My suspects:
The issue started while the new version of Google Play Services was rolling out. Maybe it ****ed something up?
Batteries consist of multiple "cells" right? Maybe one of them (about 50% I think) broke?
I have uploaded a logfile from BetterBatteryStats below. That data was collected with account syncing disabled, location mode set to "device only" and only the third-party apps mentioned above installed.
Please contribute with any relevant insight or idea, and don't hesitate to ask for more info or propose experiments, to narrow down the possibilities.
Thanks
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Have you tried wiping cache and dalvik cache in recovery? Give them a wipe and let's hope that stop the battery drain.
taodan said:
Have you tried wiping cache and dalvik cache in recovery? Give them a wipe and let's hope that stop the battery drain.
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Hey taodan, thanks for the suggesion. :good:
I forgot to mention that I have used ART almost since it was released with Android 4.4, but I haven't changed the runtime since i did the factory reset.
So I have had the battery draining issue with both runtimes, which makes me think that the it is not related to the runtime I'm using.
I have tried wiping cache from recovery at least once, but I can't remember if I did that before or after the factory reset.
Do you still think that wiping dalvik cache will help?
I will update the original post with the info I forgot here.
Hi guys I'm really depressed because my phone is not working as it should be. There is a problem that appeared two weeks ago, my battery is having a massive drain with no apparently reason. I already tried everything, from installing a custom rom, deactivate all bloatware and Google Apps, installing different firmwares from Samsung, made several factory resets, changed my sim card, among other things. Even if I keep WiFi, mobile data, GPS, sync and all other things off, or even if I put on airplane mode and ultra power saving, that doesn't avoid my phone's battery to drain about 30% on a single night when I go to sleep and at a rate of 10% per hour in the morning. Looking at the battery usage the process that is giving me problems is gpsd which I don't know what it is. The rare thing is that if I remove my sim card this doesn't happen, or when I reset the phone with the sim in and don't activate mobile data my phone behaves normally but when I turn on data this starts happening again. Also I notice that almost never goes to deep sleep. The phone's model is G900h by the way. Here are some screens I took so you can look at this problem. I would really appreciate if you could help me because I am dying here, I rooted the phone and triggered Knox counter so I sadly lost my guarantee.
Anyone?
Do you use Google maps? It may be running in the background and draining your battery. Try disabling maps in settings and see if that fixes it
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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4886
This link has some info on the problem, have you gone to location settings in your phone and Google settings and turned everything off related to location such a location reporting?
Yes I did turned everything off regarding location settings. I disabled maps and everything that may be using GPS. I'm sure it's not an app I have installed because I made a factory reset and disabled several bloatware and Google Apps. But I tried something drastic, with root manager I made a copy of the gpsd file on my SD and erase it from my phone. I hope that would solve this hirritating problem
steppenwolf1984 said:
the process that is giving me problems is gpsd which I don't know what it is.
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Anyone?
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How can you not know what gpsd is when the simplest Google search would tell you? A reasonable person would have tried a search before posting as one would reasonably expect that there is a wealth of information in existing threads for most subjects. A ten second search will answer most questions (including this one).
Google search: android gpsd
Gpsd is as you would expect from the name is probably a GPS daemon. And it's unlikely to be the culprit. Rather whatever process calls gpsd will be at fault. That is probably some program that tries to frequently check it's location or otherwise poll the GPS status. Which is supported by your observation that the problem disappears if you remove your SIM card. At the top of the list is Google now or related Google programs that are infamous for this behaviour.
Google cares a lot more about tracking your location and targeting ads at you than your battery life. A forum search will find detailed information about how to fix the issue to markedly reduce battery use in existing threads. In short by restricting the Google app's permissions. Or search my post history, I wrote about this at length a hundred or so posts back.
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I'm sure you've already done that, but take a look at what apps/processes are running on your phone. Perhaps one of them is (part of) the problem?
Check your wakelocks,
Go get wakelock detector and let it run and see whats triggering your phone.
Never had the gpsd issue.
18 hours with 37 percent left?
You're doing pretty well,
did you manage to solve that problem? i have the same problem, even when i disable all location services it keeps draining my battery. I installed wakelock detector but it says it doens't work on kitkat.
Yes I did, thanks very much to all of you for your help. The culprit for this problem in my case was one of the Google apps. I only root my phone so to be able to uninstalled every gapp with titanium backup and then download the ones I needed from the play store
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Yes I did, thanks very much to all of you for your help. The culprit for this problem in my case was one of the Google apps. I only root my phone so to be able to uninstalled every gapp with titanium backup and then download the ones I needed from the play store
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did you find out wich of the gapps was the culprit? did you try disabling it instead of rooting to uninstall?
I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.
battery sucks. drain to much.
Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.
We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.
Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
facelessloser said:
Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
marcof93 said:
I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!
toebus said:
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too
Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
Sammaul said:
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one
Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.
Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.
Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.
Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can
Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
Not here...
Full charge at 9:00pm and by 6:00am I only see 3% drop, I don't call it a drain
(no root, latest Android Q update, location on, cell data on, bluetooth and NFC off)
Yes there is definitely higher drain on Android 10 overall.
Currently I am on AOSiP10 and getting 3-4% idle drain and about 2-3 SOT less than on AICP Pie. My friend on Stock 10 @ZeroInfinity has noticed a higher drain than Pie as well.
I'm in the process of figuring out what is causing the higher drain.
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Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
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No mine is about the same as with Pie (I haven't noticed any difference ... apart from once when I ran it right down I only got about 8hrs of sot (screen on time whereas on pie I'd get about 9 but it wasn't scientific not sure if I had the exact same settings).
Is an app showing high battery usage (Also use hamburger menu to show full system usage which incl standby)(might even be worth also looking at memory usage for each app under developer settings, if nothing stands out under battery for some reason). If very high usage suddenly maybe an app conflict with latest update. Or possibly even a crypto miner or some other malware. You can also check battery usage when booted into safe mode so no third party apps run.
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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Custom is always better than stock on this phone.
Wait for the AOSP ROMs to arrive and you will be able to easily get double that SOT time!
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only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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I did notice somewhat higher drain on A10, but not too much to worry about. My SOT on a single charge is usually about 5+ hours. Full stock, rooted. I am using WiFi Automatic to disable WiFi when the phone is inactive, so that might be helping, not sure how much...
On AOSiP10 there is no wild battery drain.
My device sleeps like a baby.
My advice? Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
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only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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something must be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
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What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
Also, my phone was ported from Sprint to T-Mobile and I've only recently got a better grip on changing tower conditions with this APN guide from T-Mobile. I had redundant APNs that may have been slowing connection to changing conditions while in motion or changing towers. Support wasn't much help anytime I called. Vacationing in a rural area with limited and slow data had me looking for a better solution. Even better than before coming back home and surfing internet in a passenger car on the freeway. Deleting the redundant ones was key, I believe.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
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samep said:
What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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I haven't tried WiFi disabling in years (Juice Defender and profile apps) but I do limit apps' access to Internet with Adguard (unlocked licensed version).
I'll give the WiFi Automatic app a try and see how that goes. I have little use for WiFi outside of those saved networks that auto connect.
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.
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IronRoo said:
something muscat be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & then go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
PS. You can boot to the recovery and wipe the whole cache partition from there
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & thin go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
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clearing data is the last method for me. if it is possible, i would not do it.
actually, the Google play services don't play to much, the battery just drain when the screen is on. however, i have tried to clear the cache of google play service before, it doesn't help.
there is an update today, just see whether it would improve it or not. would it be the issue of the battery indicator?