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I've got the 16gb nexus 7 (non 3g).
I've had it for less then a year and the battery life had been great. But starting over the last few days the battery is horrible. After a full charge over night my battery was down to 50% today. And that's with hardly any use. I used it for maybe an hour total and at least half of that time was just reading reddit.
I haven't changed any settings recently. This is all stock, no mods, not even rooted.
The battery usage right new says it's been 13 hours, and it's down to 48% and Android os accounts for 27% Followed by screen at 18% and WiFi at 9%. Those are the top 3 showing for battery usage.
Any suggestions as to what's going wrong it how to diagnose be fix it?
Thanks
Either your battery is bad or you have a stray process running somewhere.You might want to factory reset it, possibly even reflash your image.
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Either your battery is bad or you have a stray process running somewhere.You might want to factory reset it, possibly even reflash your image.
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Would the battery go bad that fast though? In my experience batteries usually gradually get worse. This went from losing a few percent of power to losing half power in the span of a day.
I might try the factory reset - just have to make sure everything is backed up. This tablet isn't rooted so i dont have titanium backup on it.
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I've got the 16gb nexus 7 (non 3g).
I've had it for less then a year and the battery life had been great. But starting over the last few days the battery is horrible. After a full charge over night my battery was down to 50% today. And that's with hardly any use. I used it for maybe an hour total and at least half of that time was just reading reddit.
I haven't changed any settings recently. This is all stock, no mods, not even rooted.
The battery usage right new says it's been 13 hours, and it's down to 48% and Android os accounts for 27% Followed by screen at 18% and WiFi at 9%. Those are the top 3 showing for battery usage.
Any suggestions as to what's going wrong it how to diagnose be fix it?
Thanks
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merkk said:
Would the battery go bad that fast though? In my experience batteries usually gradually get worse. This went from losing a few percent of power to losing half power in the span of a day.
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Doubtful it's the battery... my money is on a rogue app!!!
Hi, merkk...
It's possible, that as the previous poster suggests, some rogue app is 'eating' your battery.
The biggest consumer of power is the screen, so ensure you haven't got it set it maximum brightness... and ensure auto-brightness is enabled in settings.
Another thing you can check, is your WiFi setting... on my Nexus 7, I have 'Keep WiFi on during Sleep' set to 'Never'... it's not a setting that is easily found - it's buried in SETTINGS>>Wi-Fi>>overflow MENU (three dots, top right hand corner)>>ADVANCED>>Keep WiFi on during Sleep.
It also might be worth checking if the SYNCING of your respective accounts (Google, Twitter, etc.), haven't been inadvertently changed. Particularly the SYNCING of your Google account... which by default, SYNCs a lot of stuff and frequently. This will keep WiFi awake, and may cause battery drain. Go to SETTINGS>>ACCOUNTS>>GOOGLE and disable what you don't need to be SYNCed.
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It's unfortunate that your Nexus 7 isn't rooted, because there are a couple of excellent diagnostic apps available (GSam Battery Monitor and BetterBatteryStats) which provide more granular and finely detailed battery info/history than the standard Android battery info screen... and are useful for tracking down problematic apps that might be keeping the device unnecessarily awake ('wakelocks', etc.).
However, due to changes in Android 4.4 (KitKat), these apps now require root access to read and report battery stats info.
If your Nexus 7 is running any version of Android BEFORE 4.4 KitKat (and some haven't updated yet), then you don't need root to run these diagnostic apps.
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It's sometimes the case, with Android, that there will be occasional peculiarities with battery performance... and in my experience, it's almost always the case, it's due to something the user did... some app or widget installed. I'm currently experiencing similar battery issues on my Samsung Galaxy S3, but having run GSam for a couple of days, I think I have the culprit identified. If I can't eliminate the problem, I'll uninstall the app.
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Hope my ruminations are of some use.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Gedblake, thanks for the suggestions. For whatever reason, today it seems to be back to normal. The only thing i did last night was drain the batter to around 10%, turn it off, and let it charge while turned off.
Turned it back on today,used it for about 15 minutes or so playing a game. And now just about 5 hours after turning it on, it's down to 92% which is what I'd normally expect.
I'll try some of your suggestions if the problem re-occurs.
I noticed that my N7 (2012) has been draining quite a bit lately. Watching the battery stats, it seems Google Wallet was eating up some major battery. It was 2nd at 29% with the screen number 1 at 38%.
Not sure what the heck Google Wallet was doing, but I killed it and things seem to have stabilized.
battery drain after update?
For years I've had the same routine. I use my Nexus 7 all day for work, mostly notes. In between I play, (youtube, E-reader, etc). Every night I plug it in to charge and in the morning it's fully charged and ready to go. On Tues, I received the OTA update for 4.4.4 I noticed this morning that after a full night's charge, the battery only reports 50% charge. Is this the beginning of the end? What steps should I take from here? I recently bricked by GS3 so I depend on this thing now more then ever, any help would be sooooo appreciated.
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For years I've had the same routine. I use my Nexus 7 all day for work, mostly notes. In between I play, (youtube, E-reader, etc). Every night I plug it in to charge and in the morning it's fully charged and ready to go. On Tues, I received the OTA update for 4.4.4 I noticed this morning that after a full night's charge, the battery only reports 50% charge. Is this the beginning of the end? What steps should I take from here? I recently bricked by GS3 so I depend on this thing now more then ever, any help would be sooooo appreciated.
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I'd just restart it and let it charge again. I've updated mine a while ago and haven't had any issues.
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I'd just restart it and let it charge again. I've updated mine a while ago and haven't had any issues.
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I'm on a custom 4.4.2 ROM and I have had intermittent draining behavior as well.
Sync is off, location services off, I turn off wifi manually, and I always clear recents before I have my tablet sleep. I have greenify installed. I'm using better battery stats.
My issue seems to be similar, but I am also having battery percentages jump around.
Earlier today it went from 26% to 43% in the middle of me using it. Without charging. It frequently does this, both lesser and greater values reported. I've had my tablet shut down in the 30% range. I've had it shut itself off on 4%. I've had it drain all the way to 0% and then some before shutting down. I've had it turn itself off and when I power it back on the tablet is thinking it is at 25% or more.
I haven't been getting much more than an hour of screen time with my tablet lately. Clean fresh install of my ROM.
But I've never, until the last couple of days, had it go from a small percent to a large percent active during use. I took screenshots. I even started a thread to talk about it but nobody has responded yet.
Has anyone else ran into this behavior? Is it a sign of a soon to be dead battery?
mine got almost 30% drained on idle, airplane mode, screen off for 3 hours (tested on stock rom 4.4.3. GApps + Swiftkey + BBM + Facebook only)
my nexus 7 never lasted a day, only half a day max.
trying GSam app, hope it helps in knowing what's eating up batteries.
How much battery life are you guys getting on your Tab Pro 8.4? I bought mine couple of days back and I felt it's disappointing.
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How much battery life are you guys getting on your Tab Pro 8.4? I bought mine couple of days back and I felt it's disappointing.
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Mine has been fine. But, i use it to read and browse the web. I rarely make it down to 50% each day.
Cheers,
Rich
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Mine has been fine. But, i use it to read and browse the web. I rarely make it down to 50% each day.
Cheers,
Rich
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What's your on-screen time in battery stats? Or maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage.
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What's your on-screen time in battery stats? Or maybe post a screenshot of your battery usage.
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It shows 2 hrs 10 minutes. I have 67% battery left.
Cheers,
Rich
What bugged me was the disappointing battery life when the screen was turned off (not completely powered off of course). Even in airplane mode it would die in a day or two just sitting around. Battery stats showed Android System and OS were killing the battery. I never figured out if there was a setting or something to fix it.
Instead I loaded Cyanogenmod 11 on it a week ago and now it uses only 3% of the battery a day when I'm not using it. I don't miss any of the Samsung extras.
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What bugged me was the disappointing battery life when the screen was turned off (not completely powered off of course). Even in airplane mode it would die in a day or two just sitting around. Battery stats showed Android System and OS were killing the battery. I never figured out if there was a setting or something to fix it.
Instead I loaded Cyanogenmod 11 on it a week ago and now it uses only 3% of the battery a day when I'm not using it. I don't miss any of the Samsung extras.
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Something must be keeping it awake. My tab has excellent standby battery life.
Doesnt lose more than 5% in a day. I do have the setting to turn wifi off when in sleep mode though (unless plugged in)
Battery life on the whole varies. Video watching through the stock video player drops about 10% an hour. Surfing would depend on your browsing habits. Gaming drains close to 20% an hour. Pretty standard. That along with the excellent stand by time means I get about 2 days of use on a charge.
Every day at work telephony, internet, email, IMO 24hours, 24hours Bluethooth Gear 2 connect. Dinner consists of my tablet battery 55%. For me life is great. My tablet root and frozen Samsung Apps (Bloatware) ... XDA .... Try the Nova launcher from the Play Store to Improve speed. Set it as your default launcher then Disable / Turn Off;
Flipboard, MagazineWidget, S Voice, Samsung Apps, Samsung Apps Widget, SapaMonitor, Screen Saver, World Clock, and (Hancom, Office for Android Share, Hcell, Hshow, Hword, Updater, Viewer Launcher, and Widget) if you do not plan on using it.
We will be adding Quadrant test 24,000 points on the original ROM.
Play google baterry doctor.
Battery life is good its an app thats draining the battery.
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rkial said:
Something must be keeping it awake. My tab has excellent standby battery life.
Doesnt lose more than 5% in a day. I do have the setting to turn wifi off when in sleep mode though (unless plugged in)
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Yes it was using as much battery as watching a movie with the screen on. Something was terribly wrong with it. I think this behavior started after a software update I got from Samsung.
I turned everything off including Wifi and it was still eating the battery while sitting there with the screen off. I have never seen that with any Android device I've ever owned.
But I'm happy with Cyanogenmod. Battery life is outstanding now.
My battery life was mediocre, and then I put cyanogenmod on, and it went to dreadful. With the tablet at 100% and OFF, untouched, it would be 20% down in 10 hours. In contrast, my iPad loses maybe 3% in that time, doing the same thing - tracking email.
I ran a wakelock tracker and noticed that Exchange Services has it awake about half the time. The total time. Like in 10 hours Exchange had it awake (with screen off) more than five hours. Effen ay. Something is seriously screwed up with how Cyanogenmod's Exchange talks to the two Exchange services I use. Switching from Push to "5 minutes" has helped significantly; Exchange is still the worst culprit, but now only by a factor of four rather than a few hundred.
Ideally what I'd like is the new Exchange apks modified to prevent admin and fixed to be less wakelock intensive.
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Something must be keeping it awake. My tab has excellent standby battery life.
Doesnt lose more than 5% in a day. I do have the setting to turn wifi off when in sleep mode though (unless plugged in)
Battery life on the whole varies. Video watching through the stock video player drops about 10% an hour. Surfing would depend on your browsing habits. Gaming drains close to 20% an hour. Pretty standard. That along with the excellent stand by time means I get about 2 days of use on a charge.
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What is your on-screen time during the 2 days?
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I ran a wakelock tracker and noticed that Exchange Services has it awake about half the time. The total time. Like in 10 hours Exchange had it awake (with screen off) more than five hours. Effen ay. Something is seriously screwed up with how Cyanogenmod's Exchange talks to the two Exchange services I use. Switching from Push to "5 minutes" has helped significantly; Exchange is still the worst culprit, but now only by a factor of four rather than a few hundred.
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Cyanogenmod has their own version of Exchange?
Our Exchange servers at work are ridiculously slow and unreliable. They can take two minutes to return your mail which is a major drain on your battery if it's set to check it every five minutes and you get a lot of mail. Sometimes they'll just stop responding and leave you hanging. The IT people just tell you to keep trying and you'll get your mail eventually.
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What is your on-screen time during the 2 days?
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Dunno.. 7-8 hrs I guess. Screen on time really doesnt mean much without any context.
I can get 12hrs+ watching videos on 20% brightness. I can kill it in 4 hrs playing games at 100%.
Like I said, the standby is excellent. Drains less than 10% in 2 days. So for me, I have about 90% to use over 2 days.. and from my experience,
video drains less than 10%/hr
gaming ~20%
reading books drains less than video.
General surfing, mails, social networking uses between 10-15% depending on how you are using it.
My brightness is usually around 40%. Goes up rarely when I'm using it bright conditions. Goes lower when I'm reading late at night
Should give you an indication of what you can expect from the battery depending on your usage..
Mine drains about 10% per hour while constantly using the device for light tasks, such as reading, web surfing, and watching some YT videos here and there. That increases to about 15%/hour when I watch movies. So after watching a 2 hour movie, I expect to see about 70-75% of battery left. Now if I'm listening to music for an hour at the gym with the screen turned off, it only drains about 3%.
At first, I thought that was pretty mediocre and felt disappointed. But I've taken my tablet with me on many trips and never had it die (usually just close to 20%). I rarely ever use my external battery pack. I know this will vary depending on how long the trip is and how much you're using it, but I'm just saying that it meets my needs despite having a lower battery life compared to some other tablets. I do all I can to extend it, but I don't have to constantly watch it.
Last night I charged the tab 100% and with Wifi off (sync for 1 min every hour. )
Today the battery is at 71% - On battery 13hours - 44 mins
27% Android OS
24% Google services
13% Android System
8% Onscreen time - 20 mins
Should I flash CM to fix this?
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Last night I charged the tab 100% and with Wifi off (sync for 1 min every hour. )
Today the battery is at 71% - On battery 13hours - 44 mins
27% Android OS
24% Google services
13% Android System
8% Onscreen time - 20 mins
Should I flash CM to fix this?
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CM won't fix that. Install Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to nail down the precise problem. If you're using them, it could be Exchange Services or Google Drive (yeah, that turkey wakelocked me to oblivion!), at which point you at least know what to attack.
You can find BB on XDA here and WakeLock Detector on XDA here, both are also in the Play Store.
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CM won't fix that. Install Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to nail down the precise problem. If you're using them, it could be Exchange Services or Google Drive (yeah, that turkey wakelocked me to oblivion!), at which point you at least know what to attack.
You can find BB on XDA here and WakeLock Detector on XDA here, both are also in the Play Store.
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Google search with 23 mins of wake time and Gmail with 6 mins.
Currently Deep sleep is 14 hr 26 mins. Total time is 17h 5m. Awake is 2h 39m. Screen on time - 27mins.
I added the google now widget a couple of weeks back and that caused some wakelocks and overnight battery drain. Removed it and didn't have the problem.
The battery life is pretty good for me. Was out a lot, so had wifi off for large parts.. watched videos (from device), read some books, played some Asphalt (not much.. around 30 mins) and some browsing/mails..
Got 11 hrs screen on over 2.5 days and still have 15% left.
Yeah was indoors so the brightness was never over a third (~30%) and reading books really doesnt drain much battery(especially if its at night and you turn the brightness further down)..
I'm not saying people will get 10+hrs screen on with their device and usage constantly.. 8hrs would be realistic.. but the point is, the battery is a lot better than I had originally expected.
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I ran a wakelock tracker and noticed that Exchange Services has it awake about half the time.
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I have this same problem - except my GTP is 100% stock, unrooted. I can go into Settings/Battery to see that Exchange Services is chewing my battery. It will die in less than 24 hours, even if I don't use it - as long as it has a WiFi connection. I think if I turn off WiFi, it will stop attempting to sync and the battery will last "normally". I don't know for sure, though, as I haven't tried. I'm not interested in a tablet with no network connection or even without my email.
I'm going to cut a VERY long story short (at least, here) and say that I have spent several hours logging the ActiveSync traffic between my tab and my server, poring over the logs, and I have identified the problem. It's one particular item that is failing to sync, which causes the tablet to retry the sync every 1 second. The sync failure causes the server to log an internal server exception every time - despite the ActiveSync requests from the tablet being correct. I also found a Microsoft KB article that appears to address this exact problem, and MS has a hotfix available for it.
I have talked to Tech Support at my hosted Exchange provider and they have confirmed with their operations staff that my server does not have the MS patch that is referenced in the KB article installed. Unfortunately, they are giving me a bit of the runaround on installing it. I only have one mailbox hosted with them, so I have no pull. They sound like Verizon. "We have to thoroughly test this update in our lab before we can install it on your server." And "nobody else has reported this problem and we can't put too much time into a problem that only one user is experiencing."
So, I am now just waiting for them to install it on my Exchange server and see if it really does fix the problem for me. If it does, I will be posting about it on XDA and the AC forums, as a Google search showed me that a lot of people, with a lot of different Android devices, have this same problem and nobody seems to know what's really going on or how to fix it. I will try to remember to post back in the GTP General subforum specifically, too, so stay tuned.
My battery life seems to be getting better as the battery gets some more charges on it.
Sounds basic / silly, but i simply put mine in battery saver mode and that made a big difference with little effect on performance
If you're looking here you might be struggling with terrible battery life after the mm update. The first couple of days and few complete cycles after my update, I was getting less than 3 hours sot, in less than 12 hours, whereas lollipop treated me much better, approximately 5-6 hours sot in 24 hours. Let me clear some things from the very start: I am not attempting to create perfect battery life by sacrificing radio speed, disabling wifi when asleep etc. I'd rather have lte whenever possible and I only stop the radios at night between 11pm and 6am, using the tasker-like app included with z5.
I will continue by explaining a little bit more thorough how I did my update and in next post will give the exact steps to follow so if you're in a hurry or only here to find tips on improving battery life, head there right away. Also, if anyone has other ideas on how to improve on battery life, don't be shy and chip in.
So, since this is my first unrooted android phone ever, I had to adjust a little bit. Where previously I was using a combination of apps such as tasker, secure settings, greeenify, logcat and BBS to diagnose wakelocks and the like, I found that when I first tried to improve on lollipop battery life with these tools, actually I worseend the battery situation. For instance greenify would stop apps so they would take more cpu cycles to start again, etc. The z5, as it is, it has awesome right from the shelf standby capabilities so I feel root for those reasons only is not that sought for, after all.
Marshmallow update
I installed the nordic combined fw with clean wipe of all options present in flashtool. Afterwards I started the phone and let it restore the apps via google backup. At this step you might want to get rid of unnecessary apps (I had quite a few of them). I let all the updates happen, then I headed back to the pc and sony pcc to restore my backup (I know some people recommend starting fresh with the apps but I am the kind of lazy person, and really spoiled by titanium backup, but well, since i cannot have the latter..). I specifically chose to restore the apps data.
After restore it might take a while for the phone and whatever apps you have to sync with their respective cloud and data. I would only mention that although I kept google photos for now (with no auto sync yet) I am rather using the sony memories cloud, it seems to me faster and more standby and mediaserver friendly. So I had some problems with photos but will try it again, maybe it works better in mm.
I haven't disabled a lot of the bloatware, actually I advise you to go slowly and carefully about that since in lollipop disabling some of the preinstalled apps result in random reboots.
What I did though, after the first (horrible) battery cycle was to clear all app cache: settings/storage/internal storage/cached data
I also disabled location scanning under settings/location menu
I also performed a battery re-calibration which you should do anyways once a month or so by letting the device deplete completely (1-2% really) shutdown, charge in the wall charger up to 100%, start it plugged in charger and verify that battery percentage reads 100%, then unplug.
I didn't take a screenshot of the 3 hours sot I got a few days ago, but here are some screenshots of the much improved battery life, second day of 6+ hours. Let me tell you I didn't go easy on the battery either: few hours of listening to flac from ext sdcard in poweramp or google play over apt-x bt, couple minutes of hangouts, few sms, lots of tapatalk/reddit, a bit of camera, in other words, kept radio lte almost the whole day (while at work), all with adaptive brightness at halfway mark
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If coming from complete firmware reflash, you really got to let the phone 'settle' ie, sync your emails, photos and what not cloud services you sync with. When mediaserver usage decreases in battery usage you should be fine for next step
Delete all apps cache
Optional, if you have root/recovery mode you might be able to delete system cache
Optional, disable location scanning
Calibrate battery (you really gotta do this periodically)
I would add, as some sort of maintenance procedure, don't let your phone become too hot as that not only drains the battery faster but can permanently damage the battery, ie reduce its life/capacity.
There are also other ideas that I am currently trying, however as I am not sure they help or even cause problems of their own, will mention them later on when I'll have tested it more thoroughly: it's about debloating, usage access and others
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Some apps might not very well compatible with MM and draining. After a clean flashed I managed to get a good battery but after installed all apps the battery is a bit worse now.
Same observations here. Not a quality update for the moment. Having some problems with fingerprint unlocking. With lollipop I didn't encounter this kind of problem.
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Same observations here. Not a quality update for the moment. Having some problems with fingerprint unlocking. With lollipop I didn't encounter this kind of problem.
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This is how to improve battery thread so don't start the crap about what you don't like in MM.
I think trickle charge might be an issue for some. When it's been charging for some time and at 100% unplug and plug the charger back in a few times
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lol, try this way dude
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@sajithsajan, are you retarted? Quoting whole first post? Really?
Going to give that a try, but, what was your screen brightness
I could get five hours with the brightness slider at zero.
Pretty much useless if I'm not in dark room all day.
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Going to give that a try, but, what was your screen brightness
I could get five hours with the brightness slider at zero.
Pretty much useless if I'm not in dark room all day.
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The post says brightness halfway brightness slider (with adaptive display).
It's been a while since this post and a couple MM builds. I think that the battery calibration is still a good procedure towards experiencing better battery life, so I'd do that every month or so. Otherwise, look for more obvious issues. Just the other day I noticed a new --and very well rated-- social app I used for a few moments then, half an hour later it didn't let go of the location, even in background, exited with back button.
Did you notice a worsening in battery life on 6.0.1?
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Did you notice a worsening in battery life on 6.0.1?
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Without having timed it precisely, my ballpark numbers put it within same previous battery performance.
IMO, z5 is good enough for light to moderate usage, even some gaming although not expert on that.
It is good also for standby time (I keep on all location scanning that you might have, google now active etc), music listening ,etc.
What depletes the battery pretty fast though are any camera-related action/video recording, hangouts videochat. The camera also overheats quite rapidly so there's that.
hi everyone,
I'm hearing praise everywhere about how great this battery has been with people getting at least 8 to even 12 hours of SOT (average seems to be 10).
so how come my device clearly is much worse in this regard?
I activated black theme wherever I can, turned of scanning for BT and WiFi , use low brightness, the apps I use are not intensive AT ALL (no gaming, no Facebook) , I wiped the device cache, I resteicted battery usage of 155 apps .
it seems that Google play services is somewhat of a problem (which is why I cleared play services , Google and play store cache, as well as resteicted play services usage data), however it isn't even the biggest battery drain . also turned off face unlock.
I tried turning adaptive battery as well as advanced optimisation options on and off but it didn't seem to make a difference.
What could be the reason for the bad battery life?
can you help me? I want to like this phone but it's impossible when I get consistently less than 6h SOT when already making so many compromises (whereas other people seem to be doing no tweaking and get 11 hours)
http :// imgur.com/a/wCjd3kR (no other format available BC I'm a new member)
Also: why does my wallpaper change every time I reboot my phone?
I wasn't doing to well, then I reset my phone and it has been insanely good. I would say I started stock with adding limited apps. I suspect myfitnesspal was hurting my battery so I use the browser version. Right now I have 60% left, been on for 30 hours with 3 SOT. Aiming for 3 days which I have never done on a stock phone.
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I wasn't doing to well, then I reset my phone and it has been insanely good. I would say I started stock with adding limited apps. I suspect myfitnesspal was hurting my battery so I use the browser version. Right now I have 60% left, been on for 30 hours with 3 SOT. Aiming for 3 days which I have never done on a stock phone.
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So what you're suggesting is that I should do a factory reset and then don't use the OnePlus Switch app (like I previously did) to restore my apps but instead install one by one?
I mean I get it that apps like Strava use up a lot of battery but I don't use it very often and with this light usage I expected twice the SOT tbh..
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So what you're suggesting is that I should do a factory reset and then don't use the OnePlus Switch app (like I previously did) to restore my apps but instead install one by one?
I mean I get it that apps like Strava use up a lot of battery but I don't use it very often and with this light usage I expected twice the SOT tbh..
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Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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Thank you. I will try that on the weekend after monitoring battery life for the days till then. Maybe it randomly resolves itself?
But drag-and-dropping music from my PC (or from my phone to the PC) on the device shouldn't cause corrupt data, right?
Also restricting all these apps and using different kinds of in-built battery savers shouldn't cause reduced battery either, I suppose ? It would be quite counterintuitive.
Sry for asking such naive questions, I'm not very tech-affine
when play services show up as battery hogs the problem is often not within play services but some app using play services.
to save battery many connections (like push notifications) are handled by Google services instead of all apps keeping separate listerners/connections alive. This saves tremendous amounts of battery but makes troubleshooting harder, as the app causing the drain is not showing up under battery stats.
I would also recommend a fresh start.
Don't worry about it so much. 6h SOT is amazing. Set your phone up the way you want it, with the widgets, apps, screen brightness that you want. When was the last time you needed a phone to last three days? I use my phone whenever I want throughout the day: some navigating, some calling, have the screen on for 3-4 hours, and have 30% left when I get home in the evening after 12+ hours off of the charger. Just enjoy the phone.
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Don't worry about it so much. 6h SOT is amazing. Set your phone up the way you want it, with the widgets, apps, screen brightness that you want. When was the last time you needed a phone to last three days? I use my phone whenever I want throughout the day: some navigating, some calling, have the screen on for 3-4 hours, and have 30% left when I get home in the evening after 12+ hours off of the charger. Just enjoy the phone.
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The last time a phone lasted me three days was my Oneplus One, it had better battery life than this.
I'm enjoying the phone but I want what I paid for and it is not such ****ty battery life.
Bäcker said:
when play services show up as battery hogs the problem is often not within play services but some app using play services.
to save battery many connections (like push notifications) are handled by Google services instead of all apps keeping separate listerners/connections alive. This saves tremendous amounts of battery but makes troubleshooting harder, as the app causing the drain is not showing up under battery stats.
I would also recommend a fresh start.
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I practically restricted all apps in both battery and notifications, could that be an issue?
When I factory reset should I not restrict so much this time around (as well as not use OP switch)?
I do not have any app restricted and get during 2 days with 6+h sot.
Also restricting location to GPS only does help save battery. Google now on always listening also drains faster. If you want to use all comfort features that is fine, but you will not get as long battery life and sort compared to ppl not using that stuff
Do a factory reset and then only install the minimum apps you need. when after two days your battery stats do look nice you now know that the device is fine, you can then add more of your apps and monitor what happens.
I personally use titanium backup instead of switch but that requires root.
Bäcker said:
I do not have any app restricted and get during 2 days with 6+h sot.
Also restricting location to GPS only does help save battery. Google now on always listening also drains faster. If you want to use all comfort features that is fine, but you will not get as long battery life and sort compared to ppl not using that stuff
Do a factory reset and then only install the minimum apps you need. when after two days your battery stats do look nice you now know that the device is fine, you can then add more of your apps and monitor what happens.
I personally use titanium backup instead of switch but that requires root.
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I don't really have "a lot of comfort features". I battery restricted most of my apps, use blackmode everywhere, hardly receive notifications anymore, and only use low brightness. I'd expect more than 5h SOT.
I just hope it's not the device
hartleyshc said:
Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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I also forgot to mention, I have it set on battery saver, but I mean, I have listened to music thru the speakers for 40 mins, listened to music for about 45 mins over bluetooth, I have a garmin watch that syncs texts and calls, I have real no major compromises (also not rooted, which I have always been a root junky) and I am at 51% with 3.5 SOT with 1.5 hours of voice calls to. I will mention, I froze Chrome and am using Via as my browser, not sure if that is helping or not either.
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Methylglyoxal said:
I don't really have "a lot of comfort features". I battery restricted most of my apps, use blackmode everywhere, hardly receive notifications anymore, and only use low brightness. I'd expect more than 5h SOT.
I just hope it's not the device
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Before I reset, I was getting like 3 SOT... Lol
Give the reset a go.
Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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EspElement said:
I also forgot to mention, I have it set on battery saver, but I mean, I have listened to music thru the speakers for 40 mins, listened to music for about 45 mins over bluetooth, I have a garmin watch that syncs texts and calls, I have real no major compromises (also not rooted, which I have always been a root junky) and I am at 51% with 3.5 SOT with 1.5 hours of voice calls to. I will mention, I froze Chrome and am using Via as my browser, not sure if that is helping or not either.
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Before I reset, I was getting like 3 SOT... Lol
Give the reset a go.
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Insane usage, can't really imagine that rn. Thanks, I maybe will do that on the weekend and report back if I remember. Again, drag-dropping music files from my PC shouldn't be an issue right?
duvee said:
Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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Thank you. That's the usage I dream of lol. I hope a reset can fix it.Do you have mobile data/cellular active?
Methylglyoxal said:
hi everyone,
I'm hearing praise everywhere about how great this battery has been with people getting at least 8 to even 12 hours of SOT (average seems to be 10).
so how come my device clearly is much worse in this regard?
I activated black theme wherever I can, turned of scanning for BT and WiFi , use low brightness, the apps I use are not intensive AT ALL (no gaming, no Facebook) , I wiped the device cache, I resteicted battery usage of 155 apps .
it seems that Google play services is somewhat of a problem (which is why I cleared play services , Google and play store cache, as well as resteicted play services usage data), however it isn't even the biggest battery drain . also turned off face unlock.
I tried turning adaptive battery as well as advanced optimisation options on and off but it didn't seem to make a difference.
What could be the reason for the bad battery life?
can you help me? I want to like this phone but it's impossible when I get consistently less than 6h SOT when already making so many compromises (whereas other people seem to be doing no tweaking and get 11 hours)
http :// imgur.com/a/wCjd3kR (no other format available BC I'm a new member)
Also: why does my wallpaper change every time I reboot my phone?
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Another factor to battery life is your carrier connection. Who do you use? And how is your reception? Bad reception can easily drain a battery.
Methylglyoxal said:
The last time a phone lasted me three days was my Oneplus One, it had better battery life than this.
I'm enjoying the phone but I want what I paid for and it is not such ****ty battery life.
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I guess everyone's definition of "****ty battery life" is different. What you described sounds like pretty awesome battery life at that much SOT and a full day's battery life.
nory82688 said:
Another factor to battery life is your carrier connection. Who do you use? And how is your reception? Bad reception can easily drain a battery.
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Telekom, ie T-Mobile in Germany. I have great reception.
pkadavid said:
I guess everyone's definition of "****ty battery life" is different. What you described sounds like pretty awesome battery life at that much SOT and a full day's battery life.
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Yeah, that was my OnePlue One though. My OP6T has worse battery life now. How is 5h awesome when the average user of the same phone gets twice the amount without restricting all of their phone functionality?
I am also getting around 5 to 6 SOT... so i decided to facory reset and then just add my daily apps ... hopefully it will get better
I work 8 hours a day, during that time im using wifi, then i drive home and do some things outside sow i use 4g connection.. Then im back home and using wifi again.
I think the biggest difference with you guys and me is, i deleted all the system bloatware apps.. I only kept google calandar and play store. It could be that all theae apps i deleted, is causing you guys a poor batt life, because i havent read anybody saying they did the same.
Drag dropping music from your pc is no prob.
Hello all,
So I know there's various discussions all over the web about the Galaxy s10 and battery issues on both Snapdragon and Exynos variants. It seems people are experiencing a wide margin of difference in avg battery life..
So here's my situation. My wife and I both have S10+'s through AT&T. We got them the first week they came out. I looked though the forums and performed several battery optimization tweaks on both phones and since then the battery life has been really impressive... No complaints really. Until this last week.
We both recieved the March security patch and fingerprint scanner fix about a week ago. My wife's phone seems unchanged by this. Everything working as expected. My phone however has been draining battery MUCH faster both in SOT and standby time. I'm losing 2-3x more battery % overnight. In the last 20 mins of just reading through threads on the XDA forum app, I've lost about 10% battery. I'm sitting in the dark with my screen brightness very low too. (down another 5% since I started typing this!)
My wife and I have very similar phone habits. Since both our phones are optimized identically, and we used most of the same apps a play the same games, I started looking through everything different I've done in my phone since this problem started. I installed Adhell3, which seems to be setup properly and working. Mike B. from Adhell's Discord assured me that Adhell shouldn't be draining my battery. I'm mostly using it just to remove a bunch of basic bloatware and block some ads.
The update seems to have worked fine otherwise. My FP scanner is much better now, but something is definitely wrong. I've tried wiping the partition cache afterwards. I've tracked down others experiencing issues after this particular update, but cant seem to find a way to fix this problem yet. I saw something about Deep Sleep problems after the update when someone uses a VOIP service like Skype or WhatsApp, but I dont use anything like that. I can't even find a good tool to use to see more information about my battery usage, as the built-in battery monitor lacks a good deal of information. CPUspy doesn't work on my version.
If anyone has any ideas of what could be the culprit, what else I could try, or what tools I could use to try and track down what exactly is causing this sudden increase in drain, I'd really appreciate it.
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
clear cache helped a lot of people
Update 1
Reset all phone settings to factory. Don't do full factory reset, just all the settings, fixed my post update battery drain issues
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Hrrm. It seems I don't have ASBA or ASCA, I have ASD3. The March update.
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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Well that seems rather strange to be honest, you can eliminate possibilities by just testing and see what works. Last possibility can be that factory resetting and installing all new, but then again, it could be that it solves your issues or not. You should be having rather horizontal lines to prove your phone is truly going into deep sleep in my opinion, but also you can check with CPU Spy
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Try to log too safe mode and check the battery drain
If stopped then it was from an application that have a problem
If not I think it might be a system app or something
So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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You can look at this thread and see if you can install the app without being root or not
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
aromerodaniel said:
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
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10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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I have done it before, I can look for the image, if you would like. That was a full day of wifi actually.
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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Here is the pic
Also you can look at this thread
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You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
da1e8 said:
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
da1e8 said:
I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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Then I don't what you can do, either do a factory reset and so not restore anything from backups and see if that works. I usually set my phone that way, clean no restoration from any backup all apps are installed manually, and I do not even use adhell to disable most of Samsung crap apps and services.