The Wear SDK doesn't appear to have anything similar to the Pebblekit JS Framework. Does this mean that any watch app that wants to access the internet (such as a simple weather app) will need a dedicated companion phone app? Or am I missing something?
The Wear emulator technically looks like Android, but on a small screen, and with a different "launcher".
You can run many existing Android apps on it. I tried one of mine, and it worked, more or less, but the UI was squished as would be expected.
This is why it's called "Android Wear". It's just an Android variant. There may be some "normal" Android APIs it won't support, and there will be watch specific APIs I'm sure.
IMO, it makes sense and is smart of Google to do this. I don't want to deal with 10 different smartwatch OS's.
NOW is the time for a bigger, richer smartwatch OS, because it's now possible to put enough ARM compute power in a watch sized device.
I presume that Google Play will support watch apps at some point. And I'm looking forward to seeing custom watch ROMs. I hope there won't be too much locking down of devices, or at least a Nexus watch or 2 that can be unlocked.
I agree with all of your comments, but I also think the cool thing about pebble is that I can write a watch app that will, for example, get weather from a JSON source on the internet without requiring the user to install another phone app. I don't think you can do that with Wear.
Hi everyone,
I have not found this info so far, so I'm asking here:
Can Android Wear Smartwatches be equipped with custom watchfaces out of the box, like the Pebble? I know that Motorola is planning something like this, but I'd like to know, whether we'd be stuck with whatever Samsung, LG or whoever made the device allows, or if we can install Watchfaces from the Playstore/other sources? This would be a big factor for different screentypes, AMOLED could benefit greatly from Black and White watchfaces for example.
The same goes for the general theme/style. Is that alway "stock" Google Now look, or can we adjust it to fit our needs and/or to conserve power on AMOLED screens?
Thanks.
You can find Google I/O prese.tation on youtube and just find Android Wear presentation. It shows watchfaces, wallpapers etc.
Short answer - Yes you can change everything.
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skraam said:
You can find Google I/O prese.tation on youtube and just find Android Wear presentation. It shows watchfaces, wallpapers etc.
Short answer - Yes you can change everything.
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Thanks,
I was aware of the wallpapers, but not sure about watchfaces, since those are, according to what I read, the only things manufacturers (eg. Samsung, Sony et al) are allowed to customize. Now, just because Sammy is allowed to customized doesn't mean they'll allow me to customize...
I'll rewatch it and see what exactly they say...
UPDATE: I watched the presentaion again, but did not find any concrete evidence either way. Apps can have a custom UI, but I found nothing on 3rd party watchfaces.
Another question just popped up in my brain: What happens when the watch is not connected to the phone? How much functionality remains?
Also, can you actually answer a call on the watch? I'd assume not, since it has no speaker...
CommanderROR said:
Thanks,
I was aware of the wallpapers, but not sure about watchfaces, since those are, according to what I read, the only things manufacturers (eg. Samsung, Sony et al) are allowed to customize. Now, just because Sammy is allowed to customized doesn't mean they'll allow me to customize...
I'll rewatch it and see what exactly they say...
UPDATE: I watched the presentaion again, but did not find any concrete evidence either way. Apps can have a custom UI, but I found nothing on 3rd party watchfaces.
Another question just popped up in my brain: What happens when the watch is not connected to the phone? How much functionality remains?
Also, can you actually answer a call on the watch? I'd assume not, since it has no speaker...
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Regarding 3rd party watchfaces, that functionality isn't available today but has been promised in an upcoming release. Wear devices currently run Android 4.4W so I would assume it will roll out with L (if not before).
Just tested the functionality of the LG watch when not connected to a phone. It has limited functionality. No voice commands (because it normally uses the internet through your mobile device) but you do have access to the basics: steps, agenda, timers, timers alarms, stopwatch, etc and apps that don't require internet.
When you receive a call can answer/decline or decline & send a text (with preset and on the fly voice I think) straight from the watch but I believe you will need to use your phone or another Bluetooth device to actually talk the the person on the other end.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. That does help!
Android Wear watch face
CommanderROR said:
Hi everyone,
I have not found this info so far, so I'm asking here:
Can Android Wear Smartwatches be equipped with custom watchfaces out of the box, like the Pebble? I know that Motorola is planning something like this, but I'd like to know, whether we'd be stuck with whatever Samsung, LG or whoever made the device allows, or if we can install Watchfaces from the Playstore/other sources? This would be a big factor for different screentypes, AMOLED could benefit greatly from Black and White watchfaces for example.
The same goes for the general theme/style. Is that alway "stock" Google Now look, or can we adjust it to fit our needs and/or to conserve power on AMOLED screens?
Thanks.
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I dont see any watch face yet for Android Wear but there are already watch faces in the Android Wear itself available for you..
Custom Watch Faces for Android Wear
Yes I dont see any watch faces yet hope they will have an app for editing and creating your own watch face for Android Wear..:cyclops:
senseijuan said:
Yes I dont see any watch faces yet hope they will have an app for editing and creating your own watch face for Android Wear..:cyclops:
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Custom watch faces for Android Wear start appearing in the Play Store
Hi there,
For now, Android Wear only supports swipe gestures on the touchscreen.
It would be awesome to be able to - for example - turn your wrist to trigger actions.
Does anyone have any information to share regarding gesture detection using wrist movements with Android Wear?
If official support won't be available anytime soon, do you think this can be enabled via custom ROMs?
How hard do you think it would be to implement gesture detection from the moment a custom ROM for a certain smartwatch is available?
Considering Android Wear is... well, Android, and Android has all the API functions to get data from the accelerometer (And lots of helpful development sources), I assume it wouldn't be too hard?
Or am I overlooking something?
Best regards
Use asus remote camera app for android wear. If you twist your watch it will take a picture with your smartphone camera!
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Use asus remote camera app for android wear. If you twist your watch it will take a picture with your smartphone camera!
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Thanks for the fast reply!
So wrist gesture detection is perfectly possible it seems?
But can you or anyone else give me some additional background about Android Wear:
Should I see Android Wear as a simple extension of the Android API? By which I mean: can I utilise all the Android API functions related to interpreting smartphone/tablet sensor data, provided the smartwatch has that sensor? (e.g accelerometer)
Since I was looking in this particular section related to Wearables (Remove the spaces: developer . android . com/training/building-wearables.html ) and I couldn't find any information about wrist gesture detection.
Is that simply because everything else from the Android API is automatically also applicable to smartwatch development?
(As one can tell, I'm quite new to mobile development.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiwiwearables.app&hl=sv
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play.google.com /store/apps/details?id=com.kiwiwearables.app
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Thanks, will check this out!
Though from looking at the reviews, it seems there is still a lot to improve.
Also, I found the answer to my question in the meantime. In short: yes, you can access the accelerometer on your Android Wear smartwatch using the API functions originally intended for the accelerometer on Android smartphones.
Source: (remove the spaces) stackoverflow . com/questions/26473621/android-wear-accelerometer-gyro-sensor
The Bing app uses a wrist twist to activate
Should be possible soon!
Asgaro said:
Hi there,
For now, Android Wear only supports swipe gestures on the touchscreen.
It would be awesome to be able to - for example - turn your wrist to trigger actions.
Does anyone have any information to share regarding gesture detection using wrist movements with Android Wear?
If official support won't be available anytime soon, do you think this can be enabled via custom ROMs?
How hard do you think it would be to implement gesture detection from the moment a custom ROM for a certain smartwatch is available?
Considering Android Wear is... well, Android, and Android has all the API functions to get data from the accelerometer (And lots of helpful development sources), I assume it wouldn't be too hard?
Or am I overlooking something?
Best regards
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Android wear is a new platform and is a hell lot fun to develop though when it packs so good specs then definetly some gestures may come. Even the 2015 launch of the apple watch doesnt seem to deliver a perfect gesture. Leaving the digital crown and the electrode on screen taps but i used the asus remote camera app its a lot easier and upholding the wrist wakes the watch u shuld give it a try!
Asgaro said:
It would be awesome to be able to - for example - turn your wrist to trigger actions.
Does anyone have any information to share regarding gesture detection using wrist movements with Android Wear?
If official support won't be available anytime soon, do you think this can be enabled via custom ROMs?
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Hmmmm.... I just created an AccessibilityService that does exactly what you are describing: it gives you the ability to completely control your smartwatch using wrist gestures.
I created it for my own use (I can only use one of my hands, the one in which I wear the watch) and I can fully control it using wrist gestures.
description: https://jsalatas.ictpro.gr/handsfre...-input-method-for-android-based-smartwatches/
source code: https://github.com/jsalatas/HandsFreeWear
playstore: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gr.ictpro.jsalatas.handsfreewear
notice that in the current phase I'm not sure if the model that recognizes the wrist gestures can generalize or if it just recognizes my wrist gestures only.
Having used Reno 10X China Version (PCCM00) for almost 6 months now, I must say overall it's a great device, but with some flaws in OS design that needs to be tweaked in order to make it usable. Few days ago, I was lucky enough to buy a used Reno 10X Global Version (CPH1919, my phone is a Taiwan version CPH1919TW to be more precise, but it shares the same rom as global version CPH1919EX) at reasonable price. Since it’s not often to own both China and Global version, I would like to share my comments on PCCM00 VS CPH1919. Since the main difference is the implementation of ColorOS, I think below applies to any Oppo / Realme phone comparing their China / Global version as well.
The PCCM00 has been upgraded to Android 10 beta, but I had used Android 9 for enough time before the upgrade.
Hardware:
Both shares the exact same hardware, no notable difference in size/weight nor screen/camera quality.
Preloaded software:
PCCM00 comes with a lot of bloatware, some of which is not removable without using ADB. It has Google framework, you can easily install Google Play APK and other Google services. (Making them usable is another story, see below). There’s no Google App and thus no Google Assistant, you get Breeno which is useless for non-Mandarin speakers or users outside China.
CPH1919 comes with all Google services preloaded as system app, you can also press power button for 0.5s to activate Google Assistant. There are still some bloatware, but most of them can be uninstalled directly.
Notification icon on status bar
PCCM00 has no option for displaying notification icon on status bar until very recent A44 firmware or Android 10 (ColorOS 7) beta. CPH1919 on the other hand, has this feature from day 1.
Application / Power management
The biggest downside for PCCM00 is its application / power management. Its application management is way too aggressive that by default, no application is allowed to be running in background, except for some common Chinese apps like WeChat. As a result, no application will be showing any notification or push message, or receiving any updates. To fix this, you must select custom power management, set each app to allow running in background, plus setting each app to allow auto-start. However, you are only allowed to set a maximum of 5 Apps auto-start, setting Gmail and Google App already takes you 2 (If you don’t set this, Google Assistant will be reset every time you run, as the system expects the Google App to be always running in the background), and you need to be very careful on the 3 quotas left. Even you have set all of the above for your IM / e-mail / news APP, the system will still sometimes not sending any update all of a sudden (it’s always too late when you discovered it), and you need to restart your phone to get it working again. The ColorOS 7 Beta seems to be a little bit better with more Apps included in the auto-start white list as default (like Facebook and WhatsApp), so you have more freedom on your own choice of 5 auto-start apps.
CPH1919, on the other hand, behaves much like a regular functioning phone. I get notification from all my apps without changing any settings in power management, yet I don’t see any big difference in battery life between the two phones.
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
Thanks a lot pal, your review deserves many likes, I'm using a domestic Oppo Reno 10x and I have to say that what you said was all truth
Buy the way if you're a chinese guy than I have to be admired your english
squallho1 said:
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
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Yes...the global device is clearly a superior device. The Chinese device has many impositions due to he Chinese infrastructure and direction of authorities. That can't be changed out-of-the-box, which is probably the reason behind the PCCM00 having a different internal partition table to restrict interchanging firmwares.
moozer said:
Yes...the global device is clearly a superior device. The Chinese device has many impositions due to he Chinese infrastructure and direction of authorities. That can't be changed out-of-the-box, which is probably the reason behind the PCCM00 having a different internal partition table to restrict interchanging firmwares.
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We can not blame Oppo for not having Google Apps on China version, what really kills the phone is not allowing any background apps on default (thus no push notification for all apps). From what I've herad Oppo is not the only manufacturer doing this on their China version. I was told the reason is that unlike Google Play store which imposes very strict requirment and check for Apps listed in her store, which includes Apps' power consumption when running in background, China phones rely on 3rd party App store, and there are many junk local apps that eat a lot of battery life in background. In order to maintain reasonable battery life, manufacturers make such decision while only allowing a small number of well known local apps to be running in background.
I think a better alternative is to at least allow the user to choose the power managment behaviour, not only allowing 5 auto-run Apps. There are work-arounds (like disabling Athena process), but it just takes so much effort to make the phone usable.
Unlike Xiaomi, Oppo never values the enthusiast community (just see how hard it is to apply for "deep test" and unlock bootloader), however it seems they are changing their thinking with Realme, at least it is easier to unlock on Realme devices and there are increasing number of developers and 3rd party Roms for Realme devices.
3597dxta said:
Thanks a lot pal, your review deserves many likes, I'm using a domestic Oppo Reno 10x and I have to say that what you said was all truth
Buy the way if you're a chinese guy than I have to be admired your english
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Actually I'm from Hong Kong
Yeah, I've been pretty disappointed with my Chinese model.
I didn't know I was going to get a Chinese model when I bought the phone to use in the USA. At least I only paid $400 for it. :/
nerdydesi said:
Yeah, I've been pretty disappointed with my Chinese model.
I didn't know I was going to get a Chinese model when I bought the phone to use in the USA. At least I only paid $400 for it. :/
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My sentiments EXACTLY!! I can't decide whether to just keep it until something better comes out or to go ahead and find a Global model to replace it...
Hey,
this is my first post and i just have a quick question.
I just bought the chinese version since it just cost me about 370€.
It didn´t arrive yet but i´m wondering if i could just download the global rom from the official oppo website and flash it onto my device?
Edit: yeah not possible. Too stupid to read the whole text
Boss_Baby said:
Hey,
this is my first post and i just have a quick question.
I just bought the chinese version since it just cost me about 370€.
It didn´t arrive yet but i´m wondering if i could just download the global rom from the official oppo website and flash it onto my device?
Edit: yeah not possible. Too stupid to read the whole text
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I've managed to make mine at least "workable" with this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...e-launcher-t4067849/post82030819#post82030819
squallho1 said:
Having used Reno 10X China Version (PCCM00) for almost 6 months now, I must say overall it's a great device, but with some flaws in OS design that needs to be tweaked in order to make it usable. Few days ago, I was lucky enough to buy a used Reno 10X Global Version (CPH1919, my phone is a Taiwan version CPH1919TW to be more precise, but it shares the same rom as global version CPH1919EX) at reasonable price. Since it’s not often to own both China and Global version, I would like to share my comments on PCCM00 VS CPH1919. Since the main difference is the implementation of ColorOS, I think below applies to any Oppo / Realme phone comparing their China / Global version as well.
The PCCM00 has been upgraded to Android 10 beta, but I had used Android 9 for enough time before the upgrade.
Hardware:
Both shares the exact same hardware, no notable difference in size/weight nor screen/camera quality.
Preloaded software:
PCCM00 comes with a lot of bloatware, some of which is not removable without using ADB. It has Google framework, you can easily install Google Play APK and other Google services. (Making them usable is another story, see below). There’s no Google App and thus no Google Assistant, you get Breeno which is useless for non-Mandarin speakers or users outside China.
CPH1919 comes with all Google services preloaded as system app, you can also press power button for 0.5s to activate Google Assistant. There are still some bloatware, but most of them can be uninstalled directly.
Notification icon on status bar
PCCM00 has no option for displaying notification icon on status bar until very recent A44 firmware or Android 10 (ColorOS 7) beta. CPH1919 on the other hand, has this feature from day 1.
Application / Power management
The biggest downside for PCCM00 is its application / power management. Its application management is way too aggressive that by default, no application is allowed to be running in background, except for some common Chinese apps like WeChat. As a result, no application will be showing any notification or push message, or receiving any updates. To fix this, you must select custom power management, set each app to allow running in background, plus setting each app to allow auto-start. However, you are only allowed to set a maximum of 5 Apps auto-start, setting Gmail and Google App already takes you 2 (If you don’t set this, Google Assistant will be reset every time you run, as the system expects the Google App to be always running in the background), and you need to be very careful on the 3 quotas left. Even you have set all of the above for your IM / e-mail / news APP, the system will still sometimes not sending any update all of a sudden (it’s always too late when you discovered it), and you need to restart your phone to get it working again. The ColorOS 7 Beta seems to be a little bit better with more Apps included in the auto-start white list as default (like Facebook and WhatsApp), so you have more freedom on your own choice of 5 auto-start apps.
CPH1919, on the other hand, behaves much like a regular functioning phone. I get notification from all my apps without changing any settings in power management, yet I don’t see any big difference in battery life between the two phones.
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
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If you still have the Chinese variant with you , can you please share the default calendar and notes app . And it would be really nice if you can change the permissions of the said apps before posting . With default permissions the apps won't install . Someone has already shared the app in another thread but that one does not install because of the default permissions.
Thanks for sharing :good: I'm also an owner of PCCM00 which I bought while in Shanghai.
Overall I'm quite OK with this version since I don't use google related apps as often as I was back in US, one thing that bugs me the most is the the security measure on this phone. For example, PCCM00 doesn't come with "touble tap turn off screen" feature, and I didn't feel like changing the launcher with ADB since that breaks the full screen hand gesture. So installing a third-party app with this feature will ask you to turn on "Accessibility Service", but after a while the phone will automaticaly turn this feature off again without you knowing. After consulting on OPPP forum I find out this is how they protect and secure the phone and there's no other way to change it. Well this sucks, I still can't figure out a way or if there will ever be a way.
By the way, did you buy CPH1919 within China or elsewhere? I'm looking to replace my with the global version, still trying to find a seller but I'm stuck in Shanghai.
squallho1 said:
Having used Reno 10X China Version (PCCM00) for almost 6 months now, I must say overall it's a great device, but with some flaws in OS design that needs to be tweaked in order to make it usable. Few days ago, I was lucky enough to buy a used Reno 10X Global Version (CPH1919, my phone is a Taiwan version CPH1919TW to be more precise, but it shares the same rom as global version CPH1919EX) at reasonable price. Since it’s not often to own both China and Global version, I would like to share my comments on PCCM00 VS CPH1919. Since the main difference is the implementation of ColorOS, I think below applies to any Oppo / Realme phone comparing their China / Global version as well.
The PCCM00 has been upgraded to Android 10 beta, but I had used Android 9 for enough time before the upgrade.
Hardware:
Both shares the exact same hardware, no notable difference in size/weight nor screen/camera quality.
Preloaded software:
PCCM00 comes with a lot of bloatware, some of which is not removable without using ADB. It has Google framework, you can easily install Google Play APK and other Google services. (Making them usable is another story, see below). There’s no Google App and thus no Google Assistant, you get Breeno which is useless for non-Mandarin speakers or users outside China.
CPH1919 comes with all Google services preloaded as system app, you can also press power button for 0.5s to activate Google Assistant. There are still some bloatware, but most of them can be uninstalled directly.
Notification icon on status bar
PCCM00 has no option for displaying notification icon on status bar until very recent A44 firmware or Android 10 (ColorOS 7) beta. CPH1919 on the other hand, has this feature from day 1.
Application / Power management
The biggest downside for PCCM00 is its application / power management. Its application management is way too aggressive that by default, no application is allowed to be running in background, except for some common Chinese apps like WeChat. As a result, no application will be showing any notification or push message, or receiving any updates. To fix this, you must select custom power management, set each app to allow running in background, plus setting each app to allow auto-start. However, you are only allowed to set a maximum of 5 Apps auto-start, setting Gmail and Google App already takes you 2 (If you don’t set this, Google Assistant will be reset every time you run, as the system expects the Google App to be always running in the background), and you need to be very careful on the 3 quotas left. Even you have set all of the above for your IM / e-mail / news APP, the system will still sometimes not sending any update all of a sudden (it’s always too late when you discovered it), and you need to restart your phone to get it working again. The ColorOS 7 Beta seems to be a little bit better with more Apps included in the auto-start white list as default (like Facebook and WhatsApp), so you have more freedom on your own choice of 5 auto-start apps.
CPH1919, on the other hand, behaves much like a regular functioning phone. I get notification from all my apps without changing any settings in power management, yet I don’t see any big difference in battery life between the two phones.
Conclusion
I’m very surprised when receiving the CPH1919, that the phone is just so much better out of the box. This also shows Oppo software developers actually know how to properly configure a phone (at least for their Global Rom department). Giving that it’s still impossible to flash the global ROM on a PCCM00 (you can unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and Root, but there’s no 3rd party ROM available, and you can’t flash global ROM on it. The two phone’s partition size are different, see other posts for discussion), I would strongly advice anyone who is interested in buying an Oppo / Realme phone, to stay away from China version. You probably have to pay more for global version, but it’s definitely worth it.
(please forgive me for the screen showing Chinese UI, I was just too lazy to swtich them to English, but you can still see all important info)
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I got mine used from 'idlefish', also developed by Alibaba but specifically for buy and sell used items.
Global version phone doesn't come up too often, but when they are they often come with discount (since to mainland users global versions are inferior).
Recently I saw a lot of sellers selling new Reno 5G UK version (CPH1921EE) at a discount, however it's still uncertain whether the 5G version will receive ColorOS 7...
Any help to unlock bootloader in global varient ?
Themes and theme store are an issue on global rom (depending upon region unless Asia/Australia from what I have heard). No such issue with the China device.
is that possible to set default browser of china version to chrome.
vidsava said:
is that possible to set default browser of china version to chrome.
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You have to use ADB to disable or completly uninstall the default browser, setting the default brower doesn't help much.