Hi guys,
If you root the galaxy s7 you will get a triangle how many times you root the phone, but how do you remove that?
Meaning setting / reset the KNOX counter
You can't.
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Simone said:
You can't.
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Not yet? Because it was possible on the early models
aygul12345 said:
Not yet? Because it was possible on the early models
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You have to change some hardware to do that. I have been on my S5 for 2 years and nothing came to reset Knox.
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aygul12345 said:
Hi guys,
If you root the galaxy s7 you will get a triangle how many times you root the phone, but how do you remove that?
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A quick explation:
The triangle you are referring to is a software counter that detected how many unofficial software downloads (flashing) you do to the phone's firmware. That software counter was reset to 0 (zero) by overwriting the right bytes on the right portion of the phones memory, which is what Triangle Away used to do back on the S3, if I recall correctly.
As of the S4 (or S5, not completely sure), flashing any unofficial software file to the phone's firmware activates a hardware fuse that's irreversibly 'burnt'. This system is part of a security feature in the phone known as Knox, which is aimed at the corporate sector to make the phone more secure. That hardware fuse that gets 'destroyed' means that no software can reset the counter (which is now 0 or 1, rather than a counter, depending on whether or not you've burnt it) or repair that fuse, and that's the Knox Counter our friends in earlier posts are referring to.
In short, there is no Triangle Away thingy that can fix the unofficial download count. Once you pull the plug, it stays like that forever.
Knox hide can possible
You can't reset Knox. But you can fake the system to get all Knox features back. You need some knowledge to do this.
1. Backup your device. ( smart switch for pc)
2. Download "SUPERSTOCK KERNEL 2.4.1" to your device and transfer to your pc.
3. Download and flash Twrp recovery to your device by odin. ( if your phone is rooted, then flash the downloaded kernel zip via 'flashfire'.)
4. Click wipe and do a factory reset. ( in this procedure you will lose all of your data.)
5. Connect your phone to your pc and transfer "superstocl kernel" to your device.
6. Select the transferred zip file and flash it.
7. Reboot your device.
Code:
8. Restore the backupped data to your device.
9. Download and install "phone info" app from play store and cheak Knox status.
Now you can enjoy Knox features without any inconvenience or any problems.
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I've made a bit of a mess and I need help please. My s4 is softbricked, but as softbricks go, it's rather hard.
I have an early S4 i9505 bought from Carphone Warehouse (UK, unlocked, pre knox). I rooted it, installed TBackup, greenify and got it how I wanted it. Then I downloaded a stock firmware from Sammobile and tested to see if I could get it back to 'warranty' condition, which was a success.
Confident that I could obtain warranty if I needed it, I re-rooted it, installed TB and greenify, and it ran sweetly for months from that point onwards.
I read about the arrival of updates (and knox) and concluded I didn't need them. It was working, leave it alone.
Then out of the blue, my nice stable machine broke. I didn't change anything I was aware of to cause it.
No normal boot.
No recovery.
Download only.
Using Odin, I tried allsorts, eventually getting the same Sammobile firmware to run.
2 days later, it broke again, same as before, but worse!?
Then I tried all sorts of stuff downloading no end of things trying to get it to boot or even go into recovery. The most promising approach was to reload the firmware along with a .pit file, but still no joy. I've lost track of the other things I tried, but I've been doing it for a week, so a lot has been done. In desperation, I even tried downloading the latest firmware, so I now have signs of knox of the odin page.
I now have the following symptoms:
Booting into recovery brings up the blue 'booting recovery' message then just blackness.
Normal boot is exactly the same as above.
Unpowered conection to my laptop gives a 5 second boot loop featuring the buzz only.
I can reliably boot into download and download stuff with Odin and change the little Odin page status messages. After (foolishly) trying the latest firmware, these messages say
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME GT-I9505
CURRENT BINARY Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS Official
KNOX KERNEL LOCK 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: enable
eMMC BURST MODE enabled
Please can anyone give me some advice on what else I could try?
Thanks
Steve
Wrinklespots said:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME GT-I9505
CURRENT BINARY Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS Official
KNOX KERNEL LOCK 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: enable
eMMC BURST MODE enabled
Please can anyone give me some advice on what else I could try?
Thanks
Steve
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If anything else is not working (especially, if you're unable to go to recovery) I'd call sammy service center. Your download mode says that you did not rooted your phone, and knox is untouched either.
spamtrash said:
If anything else is not working (especially, if you're unable to go to recovery) I'd call sammy service center. Your download mode says that you did not rooted your phone, and knox is untouched either.
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Thanks for looking spamtrash.
I was wondering if I could get away with that. It does look good from the Odin display, but the flash counter must have a pretty high number in it by now! Won't that show up somewhere?
Do you think it does actually have a fault on it, rather than just some software that's messed up and needs tweaking?
Thanks
Steve
Wrinklespots said:
Thanks for looking spamtrash.
I was wondering if I could get away with that. It does look good from the Odin display, but the flash counter must have a pretty high number in it by now! Won't that show up somewhere?
Do you think it does actually have a fault on it, rather than just some software that's messed up and needs tweaking?
Thanks
Steve
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1. Are you able to go to recovery mode?
2. Assuming that your previous communicates were taken from the screen in download mode - you're clean.
If answer for 1 is: NO, and assuming 2: do not bother the flash counter. Flash counter does not means you messed with custom ROMs, it just means amount of the ROM update tries. As they are unable to prove that the counter was not increased by failed KIES updates, you're safe.
To go deeper, service will have to flash and wipe your phone.
One thing: remove your sd card prior to giving/sending it out.
Try a different usb cable.I was in same boat as you (after stupidly thinking mobile odin pro liked modems).
Luckily I had an unused cable off my tab 3.
My Galaxy S4 just decided to show wavy lines on the screen instead of turning on - as far as I can tell the screen and digitiser are no longer working.
**I CANNOT SEE OR DO ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN**
I have a 4.2.2 i9505 UAMDE -Stock Rom- that is rooted.
I have never flashed any other firmware to it - just rooted it.
I have Kies access and backed up my phone. Kies prompted for a firmware upgrade when I plugged in the phone.
I want to return it to stock/unroot etc so Samsung will warranty the phone without fuss (it was not dropped, just stopped working).
Some questions:
Most important:
1. Is it possible to get the phone to a state that will be warranty-ready without having a screen?
2. Do I need to Triangle away if all I have done is rooted? If so, can I do this without a working screen?
3. What is the best way to return to stock? ODIN or should I just let Kies update to latest firmware? (If either will it be enough to satisfy the first question)
4. If Kies does the update will I need access to the screen to complete it?
Thanks in advance!
1. You can flash same firmware with ODin. It will delete root access, but app will stay, so you have to uninstall it through https://play.google.com/store
2. You don't need to, unless you've made a root through Oding flash?
3. Odin
4. No, but it will udpate it to 4.3 with KNOX?
mar10o said:
1. You can flash same firmware with ODin. It will delete root access, but app will stay, so you have to uninstall it through https://play.google.com/store
2. You don't need to, unless you've made a root through Oding flash?
3. Odin
4. No, but it will udpate it to 4.3 with KNOX?
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Thanks for the quick reply.
1. not sure which 'app will stay' you mean?
2. Actually I cannot remember how I rooted - I will have to look this up again. Something tells me cf-autoroot and maybe ODIN... All I can remember it that I still have stock ROM just with root.
4. Agree that this might not be the best idea as I am trying to stay away from KNOX but I wonder if Samsung will automatically update to the latest ROM as part of the fix?
Kies is currently sitting on backing up "preparing" for ages and ages... hope it works in the end.
Looking back I suspect I used CF-autoroot which probably mean my counter has gone up.
Any way of resetting this without a screen?
I've managed to get some screen control using adb, screencast and teamviewer.
Triangle away says:
Counter: 0
Binary: Official
System: Official
I suspect the Official comes from the fact I was running Wanam Xposed and spoofing official.
One last question -
Given all that information I should just be able to flash
4.2.2 UAMDE Stock rom from sammobile with odin
and everything will be warranty-ready?
(will this wipe all my data and programs as well? - something I WANT to happen)
It will not wipe it. On the older devices like S3, there was a special ROM for cleaning purposes with PIT file, that was repartitioning your memory. Maybe there is something like that for S4?
So I initially rooted my Sprint S5 using the old fashioned way, which tripped my Knox flag seen at bootup in Odin mode. That part I cannot seem to get reset (going to try Triangle Away shortly).
However I now have it reloaded using the Samsung Kies Windows program with the latest firmware, and in the phone settings Device Status where it used to say "Custom" it now again says "Official". I first tried to use Odin to put the stock firmware image back on, which did not help at all.
I went into Kies version 3.2.14072_12 with my S5 plugged in and clicked Tools menu -> Firmware upgrade and initialization". It may ask you for model and serial number, which I put in for mine just fine, and then it launched saying the device will be initialized to original settings. However this is different from doing factory reset from within the phone. It reboots to odin and then recovery and performs a handful of things. When it completed I had to re-setup a bunch of things, but the phone basically unrooted itself without me telling SuperSU to do an unroot. I ran supersu and it said it couldnt run on an unrooted phone... So I checked the About info in settings and voila, back to Official status, and OTA updates work again!
Unfortunately the knox flag didnt un-set, but Im less worried about that and more worried about missing enhancement OTA patches and updates - well I was before I will update here if that Triangle program can reset the counter. I thought that counter was a hard-wired fuse piece of hardware, not flash memory, so Im not sure that it can be done, but worth a try. Hope this works for everyone and Good Luck!!
This is already known.... And FYI no known method can reset the Knox counter.
Sent from a Galaxy 5 light years away
Herby6262 said:
So I initially rooted my Sprint S5 using the old fashioned way, which tripped my Knox flag seen at bootup in Odin mode. That part I cannot seem to get reset (going to try Triangle Away shortly).
However I now have it reloaded using the Samsung Kies Windows program with the latest firmware, and in the phone settings Device Status where it used to say "Custom" it now again says "Official". I first tried to use Odin to put the stock firmware image back on, which did not help at all.
I went into Kies version 3.2.14072_12 with my S5 plugged in and clicked Tools menu -> Firmware upgrade and initialization". It may ask you for model and serial number, which I put in for mine just fine, and then it launched saying the device will be initialized to original settings. However this is different from doing factory reset from within the phone. It reboots to odin and then recovery and performs a handful of things. When it completed I had to re-setup a bunch of things, but the phone basically unrooted itself without me telling SuperSU to do an unroot. I ran supersu and it said it couldnt run on an unrooted phone... So I checked the About info in settings and voila, back to Official status, and OTA updates work again!
Unfortunately the knox flag didnt un-set, but Im less worried about that and more worried about missing enhancement OTA patches and updates - well I was before I will update here if that Triangle program can reset the counter. I thought that counter was a hard-wired fuse piece of hardware, not flash memory, so Im not sure that it can be done, but worth a try. Hope this works for everyone and Good Luck!!
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Thanks for th3 info. When I need ota then I know what to do. Its pretty obvious that I am new to this but I'm learning
Where can I find the numbers required for kies update ? SN is no where on the phone or under battery
MagnumPOS said:
Where can I find the numbers required for kies update ? SN is no where on the phone or under battery
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phone info.apk
I tried to root with towelroot=not support?:crying:
I tryied vroot and it support,no dare to click, will it trip knox?
Others like geniusroot,kingo root support n trip knox?
Any chances to root without trip knox?
Thank you.
Hello.
I had rooted my Galaxy S4 (i9505), 4.4.2, without triggering the Knox Flag, using CF-Auto-Root, via Odin. The Flash Counter is now 1, due to flashing something, but Knox is 0x0. Flash counter can be reseted by using Triangle Away,
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
Proof:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkjnmpwcq6pz2se/DSC_3831.JPG?dl=0
(no 0x1 flag)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gctx9ejiin47rrp/Screenshot 2014-10-04 17.08.39.png?dl=0
(device supported by Kies)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8hpbmo815ltn1w/2014-10-04 14.09.39.png?dl=0
(SuperUser working)
Mind that you have to install BusyBox from Google Play, cause it does not come with it.
Have fun
costin96 said:
Hello.
I had rooted my Galaxy S4 (i9505), 4.4.2, without triggering the Knox Flag, using CF-Auto-Root, via Odin. The Flash Counter is now 1, due to flashing something, but Knox is 0x0. Flash counter can be reseted by using Triangle Away,
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
Proof:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkjnmpwcq6pz2se/DSC_3831.JPG?dl=0
(no 0x1 flag)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gctx9ejiin47rrp/Screenshot 2014-10-04 17.08.39.png?dl=0
(device supported by Kies)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8hpbmo815ltn1w/2014-10-04 14.09.39.png?dl=0
(SuperUser working)
Mind that you have to install BusyBox from Google Play, cause it does not come with it.
Have fun
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Thanks to you.Still can not root at the moment fir I9500
Not included - Triangle Away - ! NOT OPERATIONAL ON THE GT-I9500 !
Triangle Away can be used to reset the flash counter after installing CF-Root. The flash counter keeps track of how many custom firmwares you have flashed, as this voids warranty. (No idea what this about ? Read up on it, you will want to use this !)
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Thanks to you
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Bear in mind, that I am not 100% sure that it will work on ALL Galaxy S4 devices (I mean not trigger it).
Also bear in mind that OTA (Over the air update) will NOT work, it will return the message "Phone was been personalized."
Although, Kies sees it. Also make sure you don't have Knox mode activated or installed.
LATER EDIT:
I see that Triangle Away is only for the Qualcomm Galaxy S4 (9505). That means that you can't, at this moment, reset the flash counter. There are basically two things to worry about:
- Knox Flag -> as which seems so, I avoided it by installing that CF-Auto-Root on my 9505. I am not sure about avoiding it on 9500, but it should work.
- Flash Counter -> it raises everything you flash something via download mode. If it's 0, in Settings > About Phone > Status >Phone Status, it will return "Original" or something. If it's anything else than 0 (like 1, which I currently have cause I re-flashed root due to some tiny problem), it will return "personalized" or something like it. That will still void warranty IF the phone is sent to warranty like that, but will NOT trigger Knox. Also that will stop OTA Updates from working, but Kies updates will work (for some reason, samsung bug, use it ).
I have no idea how to help you regarding that Flash Counter on the 9500.
costin96 said:
Bear in mind, that I am not 100% sure that it will work on ALL Galaxy S4 devices (I mean not trigger it).
Also bear in mind that OTA (Over the air update) will NOT work, it will return the message "Phone was been personalized."
Although, Kies sees it. Also make sure you don't have Knox mode activated or installed.
LATER EDIT:
I see that Triangle Away is only for the Qualcomm Galaxy S4 (9505). That means that you can't, at this moment, reset the flash counter. There are basically two things to worry about:
- Knox Flag -> as which seems so, I avoided it by installing that CF-Auto-Root on my 9505. I am not sure about avoiding it on 9500, but it should work.
- Flash Counter -> it raises everything you flash something via download mode. If it's 0, in Settings > About Phone > Status >Phone Status, it will return "Original" or something. If it's anything else than 0 (like 1, which I currently have cause I re-flashed root due to some tiny problem), it will return "personalized" or something like it. That will still void warranty IF the phone is sent to warranty like that, but will NOT trigger Knox. Also that will stop OTA Updates from working, but Kies updates will work (for some reason, samsung bug, use it ).
I have no idea how to help you regarding that Flash Counter on the 9500.
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Thanks again.
I just hav to avoid to take the risk and prevent warranty void,the answer is not to root at the moment.
Thanks gain:good:
I just installed a official firmware from sammobile.com (I think I changed the CSC but I am not sure. However that should not trip KNOX), everything went well with odin (using the method described in the same page) but when I turn on the phone and try to use myKnox app it says that it detected a non authorized software change, same with Secure Folder and S Health.
(Never rooted the phone or installed a custom rom or TWRP)
In download mode the warranty says: 1 (0x0600)
I tried clearing the cache and doing a factory reset.
Have this happened to anyone here? Could you solve it? (without using the method of flashing a new kernel via TWRP)
If you could help me I will be very thankful!
What's you current Android Version?
Once Knox is tripped, there's just no way back - it's a hardware thing. I hear there are ways to emulate Knox 00 in Android for some apps, but the bootloader will forever give the real status.
The only way around it is physically replacing the mainboard, or getting a be phone.
I haven't encountered any cases of official FW causing this. Most likely you got hold of a damaged file (always be sure to check md5), the file you got was for a different phone (S7 instead of s7 edge?), or someone tampered with the file before uploaded it to samobile