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I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?
I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So which is it? Does anyone know?
I am not sure, but in the fcc documents for the N7105 there's no mention of lte at all.
So I believe that the n7105 is the international without lte.
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If you live in the US, you want LTE. It's awesome in every respect. It's like having a FIOS line in the palm of your hand.
In Singapore, Note 1's model number is GT-N7000 while Note 1 LTE is GT-N7005. I do believe that Samsung's naming format for their international handsets doesn't differ from country to country. Therefore GT-N7105 is Note II LTE. just my educated guess.
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In Singapore, Note 1's model number is GT-N7000 while Note 1 LTE is GT-N7005. I do believe that Samsung's naming format for their international handsets doesn't differ from country to country. Therefore GT-N7105 is Note II LTE. just my educated guess.
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Correct! The models ending with 05 are LTE
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I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?
I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So which is it? Does anyone know?
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
From what I can tell, even if you happen to buy out of country versions that are compatible for some LTE frequencies for example AT&T, it may not be as compatible as phones you would get from AT&T directly because of the mix and match LTE spectrums that AT&T and all other carriers have purchased. I'm guessing the days of importing International versions are over if you care about good LTE coverage.
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
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Negri lists as follows:
Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
here is the lte version from hk web site but not yet official by samsung.
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=145083
according to what you can read here : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
N7105 is LTE for LTE2600 (B7) and LTE800 (B20). Those frequencies have choosen for LTE in France
I wonder if the Korean LTE one released today will work in uk when our 4g is up and running. Anyone know?
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I wonder if the Korean LTE one released today will work in uk when our 4g is up and running. Anyone know?
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Unfortunately not. I believe that South Korean LTE is on 1800MHz. Post auction UK LTE frequencies are 800MHz and 2600MHz (these are the bands to be auctioned off before the end of 2012). However, it will likely work on EE's Interim LTE network.
Everything Everywhere will launch an 'interim 4G' solution, running LTE on some of its unused 1800MHz spectrum (from the T-Mobile/Orange Merger). This will be rolled out to 16 cities before the end of the year. EE 4G is up and running as we speak, but only for dongles, and one cannot yet buy a phone on contract from them.
Aside from that, O2 and Vodafone have lots of spectrum at 900MHz, depending on what they secure at 800MHz, they might ask ofcom to allow them to run LTE on 900MHz, likely siting ofcoms agreement to allow EE to run LTE on 1800MHz as ammunition!
Three (which only had 2100MHz spectrum since its a 3G only provider), has bought some 1800MHz spectrum off EE. They have not yet declared what they will use this for, but one would suspect limited 'interim 4G' like EE.
There are basically no phones out there at the moment that support both post-auction UK LTE frequencies (800MHz and 2600MHz). France apparently uses 800MHz and 2600MHz although only the latter is currently live. There is a note 2 variant on its way that does 800/2600MHz. Lots more will follow.
The problem we have in the UK, is that we might end up with 4 LTE bands: 800MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz and 2600MHz !!! No phones are going to be doing all this lot anytime soon. (I was wrong: Nokia Lumnia 920 does, Samsungs do not yet)
Additionally, what happens post-auction to EE's (and perhaps 3's) LTE network at 1800MHz - are they just going to shut it down (one would assume not!) If not then future phones for that network will need to do 800,1800 and 2600MHz. Will they cover the initial 16 cities with 800/2600MHz as well as 1800MHz to keep the early adopters happy?
UK LTE is a mess. Its partially DSO (TV digital switchover) that's to blame, but ofcom could have sold off the 2600MHz spectrum some time ago, and then done the 800MHz auctions after DSO. This is the way that France chose to run its auctions. If ofcom had done this then we could have had 4G 12-18 months ago, and we could not have ended up with half-way-house 1800MHz LTE from the likes of EE.
Anyway to answer your question, if you get any of EE's current phones: iPhone5, SGS3, Lumnia 920, (and, if they announce it, Note 2 - Korean) etc then these ONLY do 1800MHz LTE EE's 'Interim LTE' (and perhaps 700 and 2100MHz LTE - which are useless in UK). Early next year, EE will start to spread coverage outwith those initial 16 cities, but they will do this using the 800MHz and 2600MHz LTE they won at auction.
That phone you got from them wont work on these post-auction LTE frequencies. You'll likely be on a two year contract, paying dearly for the fact that you adopted LTE early since those that waited would enjoy much better LTE coverage from their later-generation phones. On top of that, your phone, not having the right radio's for UK LTE will be worth sweet FA on ebay!
The operator arguments over the 800 and 2600MHz bands have hardly started yet. If O2/Voda get permission to run LTE on their 900MHz spectrum (and are also allowed to bit on 800MHz), you can bet you house that the operators without 900MHz aint gonna be happy!
What really gets me regarding all the arguments, is that neither O2, vodafone nor (to a lesser extent) orange ever bothered to implement 3G properly. It works in cities, thats about it. Only Three and T-Mobile actually implemented a reasonable 3G network that covered most of the UK.
Personally, I would forget about LTE for 18 months until there is a viable network, and some viable hardware that is actually able to take advantage of all the LTE infrastructure no matter what frequency is happens to run on! I certainly would not be signing up with EE (or three if they do 1800MHz LTE) for 2 years, just to be the first - as there's good potential to get caught out 9-12 months down the line.
For the operators, there are other issues at 800MHz. Folk living close to base stations are likely to loose the freeview muxes that are sat in the low 800MHz. In simple cases, this is fixed by a filter, in other cases, it will require a new roof antenna, while for some other folks, it will require a switch from freeview-freesat. One of the conditions attached to the 800MHz spectrum is that the mobile operator needs to fix-up the TV signal's for any customer that is likely to be effected. This will also reduce the radiation patterns, and thus range of the base stations in certain directions. Ofcom will only allow switch-on of the BS once the MO has fixed up all potential TV reception issues. Its going to cost them a fortune!
NB: What what I have seen thus far, Galaxy S3 and Note 2 don't do 1800,800 & 2600 in the same device. BUT Nokia Lumnia 920 does.
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NB: What what I have seen thus far, Galaxy S3 and Note 2 don't do 1800,800 & 2600 in the same device. BUT Nokia Lumnia 920 does.
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I didn't realise just how many Note II variations have been / are being released!
GT-N7105
LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
SGH-i317
LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3826&view=1&c=samsung_sgh-i317_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SHV-E250S
LTE850 (B5)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3851&view=1&c=samsung_shv-e250s_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SPH-L900 (CDMA)
LTE1900 (B2), LTE1900 (B25)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3832&c=samsung_sph-l900_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SCH-R950 (CDMA)
LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2), LTE700 (B12)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3877&c=samsung_sch-r950_galaxy_note_ii_lte
Reading the following suggests that the Korean version (N7105?) supports all three networks - SKT, KT and LG U+:
http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-note-ii-for-south-korea/
... and, according to the following article, the only frequency supported by KT is 1800Mhz:
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/15...e-for-8001800-mhz-lte-service-on-next-iphone/
This would suggest that the Note 2 for Korea supports 800, 1800 & 2600Mhz.
Korean versions:
SK's SHV-E250S Supports Band 3 and 5
KT's SHV-E250K Supports Band 3 and 8
LG's SHV-E250U Supports Band 1 and 5
So basically if I'm on ATT here in the states with my Note 1, I should cool my jets and wait for the official US ATT version comes out instead of jumping the gun and getting an international version. Am I correct?
This GT-N7105 sold on NegriElectronics details these LTE bands:
Code:
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
Unfortunately, I think Negri Electronics is misinformed over the specs of the N7105. Although they list the necessary LTE bands for AT&T, I believe that may be incorrect. According to Android Authority and the FCC, the N7105 does not support USA/Canada LTE bands sadly... I hope we're all proven wrong soon though!
Alternatively, assuming all other features and hardware of the AT&T/Rogers Note II are exactly the same as the international N7105, then it's likely possible that we can simply flash N7105 firmware out of the box, but continue to use the modem.bin from the carrier firmware for continued LTE functionality. That's what I did with my OG AT&T branded Galaxy Tab, and it worked brilliantly!
So, to recap:
1. Int'l N7105 is likely NOT North American LTE friendly :'(
2. North American carrier branded GSM/LTE Note 2's will likely have 99.9% identical hardware to Int'l N7105 (the .1% difference being the tweaked LTE radio and modem.bin driver file)
3. Possible workaround for North American users would be to get GSM carrier Note 2, retain modem.bin from carrier firmware, flash Int'l N7105 firmware, flash carrier modem.bin, and viola! North American LTE friendly Int'l Note 2!
Hmmm, I may have to contact them for clarification and cancel my order if that's the case.
Will update when I get feedback from them.
Edit: Talked with a Negri CS rep, and he suggested I cancel my pre-order and wait until they receive units to verify compatibility. That's what I have just done.
Engadget have a review up with the lte bands and model numbers. BUT
they don't list the 7105 as having band 1800 which is EEs network yet EE are set to sell the lte variant next week. :-/
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EE's LTE Variant
T-Mobile UK called me yesterday to confirm that they've received stock of the Note 2 LTE. I received a text to confirm that one of these is scheduled for delivery to my home within the next four hours (by midday UK time). Once it arrives, hopefully I can tell you exactly which bands in addition to band 3 (if any) are supported.
I hope the following information is applicable for all countries....
India's mobile frequencies & bands are
2G : GSM 900 MHz, GSM 1800 MHz
3G : WCDMA/HSPA/UMTS 2100 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 1
4G : TD-LTE 2300 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 40
As you all know only Airtel is providing 4G in india in TD-LTE 2300 MHz.
Two types of LTE -- FDD LTE , TDD LTE (NEW China Standard mainly)
TD-LTE -- Time-division Long-Term Evolution
LTE TDD -- LTE Time-Division Duplex
TDD LTE -- Time-Division Duplex LTE
All above 3 are same I guess...
And the main stream LTE is called FDD-LTE - Frequency-Division Duplex LTE
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OPO International Bands are ----
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2G: GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
3G: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
-- Which are equivalent to --- 2100 /1900 / 1700 / 850 / 900 MHz ( Frequencies)
4G: LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
-- Which are equivalent to --- FDD 2100/ FDD 1800/ FDD 1700/ FDD 2600 / FDD 700 b c / TDD 2600 / TDD 2300
OPO Chinese Bands are ----
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2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G: WCDMA: 2100 / 1900 / 850 / 900 MHz
TD-SCDMA：1880-1920/2010-2025MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/2/5/8/39/34
4G: FDD-LTE :2100/1800/2600 MHz
TD-LTE：1880-1920/2300-2400/2570-2620MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/3/7/39/40/38
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So for India Both versions should work with all available telecom providers.
Let me know your thoughts guys...
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No 4G on OPO in India
I thought of buying one, but seeing that it uses FDD LTE instead of TD, 4G will not work on this device in India.
WIND Mobile in Canada uses AWS Bands 1700/2100 in Canada. This phone is compatible with 4G 2100 as it shows, but not 1700. Do you think I will have 4G connectivity? Or 3G?
I bought one one from Lenteen and the 4G works perfectly in France with SFR
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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I would also love to know this thanks
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)
flaming homer said:
I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)
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I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
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I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
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Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash
flaming homer said:
Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash
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Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?
wataru said:
Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?
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Giving me 3G/H+, someone else said I may need a SIM upgrade - will try later
LTE on AT&T USA
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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Has anyone using the OPO on ATT and have no problems with 4G LTE?
I heard some people got it to work but then when it looses LTE connection it doesnt drop to 3G so the connection is lost or the call is dropped.
Please let me know if anyone has this situation happening.
Thanks!
i have chinese oneplus one and i havent use 4g in Turkiye
I thought I might post this in its own thread as it might save people time when they get their Chinese OPOs and notice WCDMA doesn't work..
For all those who don't know, the Chinese OPO does not support WCDMA/FDDLTE in its stock software configuration. You need to swap out the modem to a hacked modem in order to get the feature to work.
I believe the modem attached was pulled from a Find 7, I've tested it, it works. It has been running pretty well for the last week or so but I'll have to test it over the coming weeks to see how reliable it is. They claim 2G/3G but no 4G. 3G/2G works.
hacked modem
http://pan.baidu.com/s/1bnAeztt (run through google translate)
For further info (google translate required) :
http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-304186-1-1.html
can you please explain step by step procedure for same?
so your saying that the chinese and world versions of the opo are the same hardware wise and its just a software modem difference?
Deadpool253 said:
Thanks for the info!
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I have chinese OPO using on T-Mobile in Hungary. 2G/3G/4G are working out of the box, just for you information.
So for three in the UK the Chinese opo might not work at it's best?
Edit: did some research for myself and it will work fine.
As I saw in one of threads on OPO forums it was explained that chinese version do not support only WCDMA band 4.
According to the wiki (UMTS_frequency_bands) this band is used only by following operators:
North America: USA(T-Mobile US, Cincinnati Bell, i wireless), Canada (Eastlink, Mobilicity, Vidéotron, Wind Mobile)
Latin America: Chile(VTR, Nextel), Colombia(TIGO, Movistar), Uruguay(Ancel), Perú(Movistar, Nextel)
The question is can the modem be flashed to support missing WCDMA band 4?
I just flashed the modem on my Chinese OPO and it works flawlessly with China Unicom's 4G service.
Has anyone tried to flash the CM11S factory image and see if that radio activated the bands? The CM11S factory image includes radio images, and I believe is flashed together as a whole.
Yes. Would like to know if the 1700 and 2100 frequency are activated after flashing the modem.
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This is the hacked modem for China OPO that supports China Unicom networks.
I have made cwm zip for easiler install as CM would override the modem during OTA upgrades.
This modem comes from the chinese oneplus forum. See link: http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-429139-1-1.html
Code:
http://speedy.sh/ddWNw/OPOHackedModem.zip
I have tried other networks with the modem from the ColorOS or CM rom, seems there is no restriction on WCDMA for other networks.
sasalove said:
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This is the hacked modem for China OPO that supports China Unicom networks.
I have made cwm zip for easiler install as CM would override the modem during OTA upgrades.
This modem comes from the chinese oneplus forum. See link: http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-429139-1-1.html
Code:
http://speedy.sh/ddWNw/OPOHackedModem.zip
I have tried other networks with the modem from the ColorOS or CM rom, seems there is no restriction on WCDMA for other networks.
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A few things,..
1. I've been lead to believe from various sources that the Intl. and Chinese versions of the OPO are in fact almost identical hardware wise.
see: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/06/12/differences-international-chinese-oneplus-one/
2. I don't have a 4G subscription in China so I cannot confirm whether or not it works with this modem hack.
3. I bought my Chinese OPO from a reseller here in China on Taobao. When I received it I immediately flashed it over to CM11s and subsequently had no 3g (I use WCDMA network China Unicom FYI) for a few days until I found the hacked modem on the Chinese OPO forums. As for those of you who are not in China, I've heard that many Int. resellers will complete this process for you so you won't need to do any flashing yourself, but I can't generalise for all of the sellers out there.
4. I cannot confirm is whether or not this is only some kind of restriction for Chinese wcdma networks (China unicom). I haven't as yet taken my OPO out of this country and tried an international sim card so that is yet to be determined.
ThExSenatoR> I'm curious about your phone configuration perhaps you could post which modem version you use printed from the about screen??
sasalove> are you saying that the Chinese OPO will work outside of China on other wcdma networks but will not work inside China on China Unicom with the stock modems from coloros and CM?
can anybody who uses China unicom on 4g confirm which modem you use and if you also had to flash a different modem in order to access the service?
With some testing, I'm quite confident to conclude the restriction for 3G is on China Unicom only. I got my CMHK and one2free sim to confirm it. I can use 3G and 4G without issue in HK.
I occasionally travel to mainland and I got both China Mobile and China Unicom 3G sim. Only the hacked modem got China Unicom 3G and meanwhile the CM modem cannot connect to the TD-SCDMA for China Mobile.
I'm still waiting for my 4G China Mobile to test TD-LTE...
So in any case, I decide to flash this hacked modem, as it seem to work for all to date...
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If anyone got some time to test out the difference in modem versions as well as for rolling back, here you go!
Code:
http://speedy.sh/3DuFz/CMModem.zip
Code:
http://speedy.sh/DvQpu/ColorOSModem.zip
Code:
http://speedy.sh/ddWNw/OPOHackedModem.zip
Verizon?
Will this work on Verizon? CDMA bands 4 and 13, 3g.
Thanks!
shwise said:
Will this work on Verizon? CDMA bands 4 and 13, 3g.
Thanks!
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The modem that come with CM11 should have WCDMA band 4 (1700 MHz) and should also have LTE band 4 (1700 MHz) and band 17 (700b MHz). According to the spec, the difference is supporting TD-SCDMA band 34 (2010-2025 MHz) / TD-LTE for band 39 (1900 MHz) for China. Other than that the spec matches both side.
Therefore, if anyone need band 4 and band 17, they should use the modem that come with CM11 which lack in the Chinese modems.
Connectivity [CM]
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
Connectivity [ColorOS]
GSM：850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TD-SCDMA：1880-1920 (39) / 2010-2025 (34)
WCDMA*：2100 (1) / 1900 (2) / 850 (5) / 900 (8)
TD-LTE：2570-2620 (38) / 1880-1920 (39) / 2300-2400 (40)
FDD-LTE*：2100 (1) / 1800 (3) / 2600 (7)
sasalove said:
With some testing, I'm quite confident to conclude the restriction for 3G is on China Unicom only. I got my CMHK and one2free sim to confirm it. I can use 3G and 4G without issue in HK.
I occasionally travel to mainland and I got both China Mobile and China Unicom 3G sim. Only the hacked modem got China Unicom 3G and meanwhile the CM modem cannot connect to the TD-SCDMA for China Mobile.
I'm still waiting for my 4G China Mobile to test TD-LTE...
So in any case, I decide to flash this hacked modem, as it seem to work for all to date...
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If anyone got some time to test out the difference in modem versions as well as for rolling back, here you go!
Code:
http://speedy.sh/3DuFz/CMModem.zip
Code:
http://speedy.sh/DvQpu/ColorOSModem.zip
Code:
http://speedy.sh/ddWNw/OPOHackedModem.zip
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Thanks mate for clearing that up for me! So it seems that this restriction is only for China Unicom, why might that be I wonder? to my knowledge, It's not like the Chinese OPO's are being sold by China mobile directly...
I'd still like to test out 4G for China Unicom but I would like to find a cheap deal to do it. I can never seem to fully understand the mobile plans in China anybody got any suggestions as to how I might find a plan with a decent amount of data (at least 300mb) for less than 100yuan a month ??
sasalove said:
The modem that come with CM11 should have WCDMA band 4 (1700 MHz) and should also have LTE band 4 (1700 MHz) and band 17 (700b MHz). According to the spec, the difference is supporting TD-SCDMA band 34 (2010-2025 MHz) / TD-LTE for band 39 (1900 MHz) for China. Other than that the spec matches both side.
Therefore, if anyone need band 4 and band 17, they should use the modem that come with CM11 which lack in the Chinese modems.
Connectivity [CM]
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
Connectivity [ColorOS]
GSM：850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TD-SCDMA：1880-1920 (39) / 2010-2025 (34)
WCDMA*：2100 (1) / 1900 (2) / 850 (5) / 900 (8)
TD-LTE：2570-2620 (38) / 1880-1920 (39) / 2300-2400 (40)
FDD-LTE*：2100 (1) / 1800 (3) / 2600 (7)
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Are we certain that the Chinese OPO has the EXACT SAME hardware as the international OPO sold by One plus?
I remember reading people claiming either side.
Just want to make sure that they indeed have the exact same hardware ie. Radio/modem and just need to have different ROM/modem firmware flashed to enable different bands ie. Band 4 (1700) in my case.
There is a newer hacked modem available. The author states the modem is based on CM12S while supporting all 3G/4G in China. Another user claims to test all of the network modes.
Original Link: http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-392257-1-3.html
User confirming all network modes: http://www.miui.com/thread-1832939-1-1.html
Code:
http://speedy.sh/vnvZQ/CMHackModem.zip
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dhaub said:
A few things,..
1. I've been lead to believe from various sources that the Intl. and Chinese versions of the OPO are in fact almost identical hardware wise.
see: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/06/12/differences-international-chinese-oneplus-one/
2. I don't have a 4G subscription in China so I cannot confirm whether or not it works with this modem hack.
3. I bought my Chinese OPO from a reseller here in China on Taobao. When I received it I immediately flashed it over to CM11s and subsequently had no 3g (I use WCDMA network China Unicom FYI) for a few days until I found the hacked modem on the Chinese OPO forums. As for those of you who are not in China, I've heard that many Int. resellers will complete this process for you so you won't need to do any flashing yourself, but I can't generalise for all of the sellers out there.
4. I cannot confirm is whether or not this is only some kind of restriction for Chinese wcdma networks (China unicom). I haven't as yet taken my OPO out of this country and tried an international sim card so that is yet to be determined.
ThExSenatoR> I'm curious about your phone configuration perhaps you could post which modem version you use printed from the about screen??
sasalove> are you saying that the Chinese OPO will work outside of China on other wcdma networks but will not work inside China on China Unicom with the stock modems from coloros and CM?
can anybody who uses China unicom on 4g confirm which modem you use and if you also had to flash a different modem in order to access the service?
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I can confirm China Unicom 4g is working with the hacked modem.
sasalove said:
There is a newer hacked modem available. The author states the modem is based on CM12S while supporting all 3G/4G in China. Another user claims to test all of the network modes.
Original Link: http://www.oneplusbbs.com/thread-392257-1-3.html
User confirming all network modes: http://www.miui.com/thread-1832939-1-1.html
Code:
http://speedy.sh/vnvZQ/CMHackModem.zip
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Cheers mate! On another note, can anyone confirm what their wifi/cellular peformance is like with either the original or hacked modems? Since I've pretty much only used the hacked modem (the one I posted at the start of the thread), I can add that performance wise, it's significantly worse than my computer and old iPhone 5 when using the wifi from my bedroom. Where I sit in my bedroom I get consistent full reception on my computer and used to get the same on my iPhone 5, on my OPO I get 1 or 2 bars at most irrespective of whether or not I use 2.4ghz or 5ghz...
Anyone else experience similar?
I'm going to buy the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910W8 from amazon.com, I seen that's the canadian version. The buyer says that's compatible with all GSMs worldwide, not only in North America. As I'm from Argentina, and the bands in Argentina are GSM-850 and 1900 MHz, does it work here? Also, the 4G LTE is coming to my country by the end of next year, with 1700/2100 Mhz and 700 Mhz bands for it. Does it work here?
GSM Arena says that the SM-N910W8 is compatible with:
3G- HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - N910W8
4G LTE- LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17) - N910W8
As I don't know about this (never seen the compatible bands when I buy a phone as it's the first time I buy one from USA), I don't understand if that means that's compatible or not.
Other question: What SoC does it have? Snapdragon 805 or Exynos? If it's Snapdragon, does it means that's compatible with Roms of other models?
Help please! Thanks!
If you can live with (potentially) reduced lte coverage then no reason you shouldn't go for it.
If you want to ensure maximum coverage then you should really find out what 700mhz band is to be used in your country (band 17 or 28).
Acording to Wikipedia 700MHz band 28
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Which version of Samsung Note 4 phone is a better buy? SM-N910A vs SM-N910W8 [Moved
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
Thanks to everyone, I just decided to buy the N910C version due to I'm sure that it will work in my country (as it's the model that will come here officially). "Preparing for Shipping" says Amazon, I cannot wait!
NYCgirl said:
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
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According to the data, your statement should be correct.
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According to the data, your statement should be correct.
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Yes, I just want to verify that I'm not missing anything.
the 910U is better for you. its exynos and works well in north america and europe and most of asia.
That's right. According to Samsung, SM-N910U supports LTE on "B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B28(700)". In Europe, bands 3, 7 and 20 are commonly used.
I bought an SM-G950U1 (US Unlocked) from Best Buy. Does any one know if it supports TDD LTE Band 40 (2300 MHz)?
There is conflicting information on this! Answers given in various specs vary as follows:
YES (it supports LTE Band 40) --- according to specs given by sellers like Best Buy, B&H, and many online sites like gsmarena, phonearena, frequencycheck.com, etc.
NO (does not support LTE Band 40) --- according to the Samsung support person I talked to over the phone. Also, the FCC filings for SM-G950U do not list TDD LTE Band 40 (they have only one TDD band listed, Band 41, presumably for Sprint). On the other hand, although TDD LTE Band 41 is actually known to work with the SM-G950U1, the official Samsung SM-G950U webpage does not list any TDD band at all, not even Band 41 (it lists only FDD LTE bands).
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s8-64gb--unlocked--sm-g950uzkaxaa
Does anyone know the real answer here? Has anyone actually tested the SM-G950U1 for Band 40 support in a suitable country (Peru, South Africa, India, Australia)?
adg2012 said:
I bought an SM-G950U1 (US Unlocked) from Best Buy. Does any one know if it supports TDD LTE Band 40 (2300 MHz)?
There is conflicting information on this! Answers given in various specs vary as follows:
YES (it supports LTE Band 40) --- according to specs given by sellers like Best Buy, B&H, and many online sites like gsmarena, phonearena, frequencycheck.com, etc.
NO (does not support LTE Band 40) --- according to the Samsung support person I talked to over the phone. Also, the FCC filings for SM-G950U do not list TDD LTE Band 40 (they have only one TDD band listed, Band 41, presumably for Sprint). On the other hand, although TDD LTE Band 41 is actually known to work with the SM-G950U1, the official Samsung SM-G950U webpage does not list any TDD band at all, not even Band 41 (it lists only FDD LTE bands).
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s8-64gb--unlocked--sm-g950uzkaxaa
Does anyone know the real answer here? Has anyone actually tested the SM-G950U1 for Band 40 support in a suitable country (Peru, South Africa, India, Australia)?
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I don't have a carrier that would have Band 40, but here is the thread which lists all bands for different versions of S8. You can try asking there as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/samsung-galaxy-s8-compare-network-t3597705
Thanks. I have posted to the thread you mentioned. It is surprisingly hard to find the answer to such a simple question for such a flagship device!
adg2012 said:
Thanks. I have posted to the thread you mentioned. It is surprisingly hard to find the answer to such a simple question for such a flagship device!
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Band 40 LTE is there. Open phone and dial *#2263# and it will list all bands active in the phone, including 40. It is in mine.
Thanks Danny Noman! The *#2263# code did work and showed Band 40. Wonderful!
One question: The *#*#4636#*#* info menu does not seem to work on the S8 (works on many other android phones). Any idea what might be an equivalent for the S8?