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Has anyone actually taken off the screen protector?

And put their own, or is the one the Op2 comes with good protection enough?

I took it off to replace with a spigen hd one. But it is a good one. Should have left it. Haha

Yeah I replaced mine with a glass one. The one on it is not to bad though. I just like glass protection and the feel.

Took it off today to replace with tempered glass, but it's OK protection for free.
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Same as everyone else - I replaced it today after maybe 6-7 days and threw tempered glass on there. Smudge-free now.

Same. Replaced with tempered glass after a few days..prefer the feel and protection of tempered glass.
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Guys, i just received my 1+2 yesterday. But i do not see any screen protector with my device.. Am i missing something here?

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mac4rfree said:
Guys, i just received my 1+2 yesterday. But i do not see any screen protector with my device.. Am i missing something here?
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It's already installed. Comes pre installed.
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Well my uncle bough the opt for me, and I bought a tampered glass protector from OP for it, but my uncle says to use this one until it gets dirty then use the protector ;~; I can't argue since he bought me teh phone..
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I have the tempered glass one for it from one plus but will wait a few days. Hard to believe it will be smudge free after I put it on. I was just concerned taking the free one off that it would leave some kind of residue.

It's a piece of cheap plastic which does no favors for either protection or screen clarity. Replace it with tempered glass, the difference is HUGE.
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I have a pthink tempered protector coming, what's the best way to remove the original and replace with the tempered without dust and stuff getting underneath? Last time I tried I failed miserably and frisbeed the glass on into the wall

I just dislike screen protectors. Never had a problem with scratches on any phone in the past.

I ended up taking it off and put on tempered glass, I recommend it.

PhillyFlyer said:
Same as everyone else - I replaced it today after maybe 6-7 days and threw tempered glass on there. Smudge-free now.
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Which one did you install? Really smudge free?

Anyone installed the Non Glass screen protector from OnePlus ?
I have it and I'm wondering if it's better than the factory installed one.

I replaced mine with one of the Orzly tempered glass protectors, and it's WAY better than the stock. The stock one is fine, but it's a fingerprint/smudge magnet, and it's not as smooth as a glass protector. I've used Orzly protectors on all my devices and they're fantastic. The one I had on my 1+1 saved the screen after a drop in a parking lot. The protector took the impact and shattered instead of the screen.

Took off the free one in 24 hours. It was good except it was a fingerprint magnet. So many smudges. Happy with tempered glass.

I removed the stock, then applied the orzly tempered glass right after. Definite improvement!
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The easy way of getting this explained is this. The phone comes with a thin layer that is OK at best. If you have a flip case then you might be happy with that but if your screen is going to be exposed then purchase a tempered glass 1. If your going to invest money in a device and it quite obvious that you will be looking at the screen a lot then protect it. Its not like it's gonna break the bank and you will never worry. ☺
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No screen protector?

Do you guys think that the S7 edge screen is good enough to go without a screen protector?
Asking because I bought one yesterday and the side of it has a lot of dust already. So not sure if I want to have a screen protector on it. Or can someone recommend a good protector for the edge.
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What does dust have to do with not wanting a screen protector?
None of my phones will ever be "naked". I usually get Spigen products but their screen protectors didn't have good ratings for the S6 Edge so now I don't know.

I just want something for my edge don't be so slippery.. I have to figure it out which one ... Some advices ?
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I have a s7 with a film screen protector.. Annnnnddd I hate it. Waiting on my temper glass screen protector.

berfles said:
What does dust have to do with not wanting a screen protector?
None of my phones will ever be "naked". I usually get Spigen products but their screen protectors didn't have good ratings for the S6 Edge so now I don't know.
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The sides of the protector keep raising up and collecting lent and dust. I thought this would probably be more of a problem with the edge since the screen curves. That's why I thought maybe to not have one on it.
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I'm waiting for Zagg glass contour . They claim it'll over from edge to edge!

guaneet said:
I'm waiting for Zagg glass contour . They claim it'll over from edge to edge!
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Link or release days?

is it gonna be rare to see tempered glass with full protection over the curve?

Not using one, saw a few drop and scratch tests, and it seems to be scratch resistant. Just using a case.

AngioNicholai said:
Link or release days?
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http://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/shop-by-device/galaxy-s7-accessories

guaneet said:
http://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/shop-by-device/galaxy-s7-accessories
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In another thread someone reached out to zagg. There estimating sometime in July lol so yeah I wouldn't wait too long for that to happen

I've ordered some dirt cheap tpu screen protectors but not too sure how well they fit until they arrive. The reviews were really good but they could be fake seeing as not many people have the phone. I'll wait and see.

They will be coming. For the S6E, it took a while b/c of the learning curve. The S7E glass should be coming out much faster.
I've been using glass on my S6E for about 7 months now.
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I got a plastic one on right now but have a colour matched glass one arriving today
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I havent decided on a screen protector yet, maybe i'll just use a slim case, or tempered glass on the back, but not sure about the screen tbh...

I remember taking nails and trying to scratch the old iPhone when they first came out with gorilla glass just to show people how tough it was... We are on gorllia glass 4 now. I'd be far more worried about cracking the glass than scratching it...

Well, I own the s6 edge plus and I managed to get a ton of microscratches on the screen. That said, I only see the scratches in direct sunlight with it not really being visible indoors. This time around, I might go with a screen protector to avoid those microscratches. I'm assuming this is the same GG4 used on the front of the edge plus.

I just want something for my edge don't be so slippery.. I have to figure it out which one ...?

optimummind said:
They will be coming. For the S6E, it took a while b/c of the learning curve. The S7E glass should be coming out much faster.
I've been using glass on my S6E for about 7 months now.
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Now i must say, thats one gorgeous Galaxy... I'm impressed

If you want some extra grip, look at slickwraps or dbrand skins for front and back coverage.
https://slickwraps.com/devices/phones/android/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html

screen protector - Armorsuit VS IQ Shield VS Zagg (Glass) - What is the best?

Hello everyone
I have a feeling that these are the best screen protectors on the market (am I wrong? I read hundreds of reviews..)
Of the three I mentioned in the title.. What do you think best screen protector?
Can you also information why? And specify a specific model?
Thanks!!!

TGSP - GPEL Version 2
- If you dont plan on using any case, then this is best option.
Screen protector : BestSkinsever
Case fit version (Glossy/Matte)
- This seems to better than skinomi and IQ Shield.
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iamansar said:
TGSP - GPEL Version 2
- If you dont plan on using any case, then this is best option.
Screen protector : BestSkinsever
Case fit version (Glossy/Matte)
- This seems to better than skinomi and IQ Shield.
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And if I plan to use in case? :good:

FreedomLife said:
And if I plan to use in case? :good:
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Then buy BestSkinsEver case fit version
If you apply tempered glass and then once u put case, it will lift off and well rest will be history.
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iamansar said:
Then buy BestSkinsEver case fit version
If you apply tempered glass and then once u put case, it will lift off and well rest will be history.
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thank you :good:
I would be happy more Comments :highfive:

Interested in this as well. Atm I have a foil that has been manufactured in Germany. Fits the screen perfectly, but doesn't feel as good as glass.

Zagg HD Dry would be my vote. No longer rubbery like they used to be (the one I had on my old Galaxy S2 was terrible), and it feels very much like glass. Also doesn't curl at the edges with a proper fitting cover. Also comes with a lifetime replacement guarantee.
Avoid all the glass protectors on curved screens. It doesn't matter how much they cost, they never fit correctly and raise on the edges resulting in touch screen issues until they're removed. They're a complete waste of money and I'm amazed people still bother with them.

Beefheart said:
Zagg HD Dry would be my vote. No longer rubbery like they used to be (the one I had on my old Galaxy S2 was terrible), and it feels very much like glass. Also doesn't curl at the edges with a proper fitting cover. Also comes with a lifetime replacement guarantee.
Avoid all the glass protectors on curved screens. It doesn't matter how much they cost, they never fit correctly and raise on the edges resulting in touch screen issues until they're removed. They're a complete waste of money and I'm amazed people still bother with them.
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Agree, I read about it a lot.
However, I bought a screen protector - iq shiled friendly case..
Hopefully, he'll fit 100%. :good::good:

HELP!!!!!Best tempered glass protection to use with zerolemon s7 edge case?

hi guys,
was wondering if anyone has found a good tempered glass to use with the s7 edge zerolemon case. all the one's i have tried keep peeling up once i place the phone back into the case. Please help if anyone has successfully been able to use tempered glass with this case. Thanks in anvance

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hi guys,
was wondering if anyone has found a good tempered glass to use with the s7 edge zerolemon case. all the one's i have tried keep peeling up once i place the phone back into the case. Please help if anyone has successfully been able to use tempered glass with this case. Thanks in anvance
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As far as I'm aware, the consensus is that tempered glass protectors with the S7 Edge and the majority of cases simply don't work.
FYI, I've tried quite a few different protectors and cases here in the UK with next to no luck.
Just thought I'd inform you of my experience

So here's what I'm using.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZ02Y2I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It was easy to install and hardly noticeable.
The screen looses sensitivity and makes texting slightly difficult at times but still tolerable after you get used to it.
I also have an Otterbox Defender. I peeled the annoying screen protector off of that and installed this tempered glass protector then installed the case.
Flawless fit! Don't know anything about Zerolemon cases though.
Nevertheless, I'm very satisified with my tempered glass protector.
Also... perhaps your inquiry would have been better posted here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/curved-tempered-glass-screen-protector-t3320688

I used the original zagg glass and trimmed a bit off of the zerolemon case at the bottom chin.
It fits fine without modification with the new zagg glass.

I went to the extreme on this case because I been through more screen protectors than I should have. What I did was trim down the inner lip of the case that touches the screen. I used a slightly sharp exacto knife and slightly trimmed away all the hard edges surrounding the phone a little at a time. Doesn't take much trimming to get it to work. Mine looks not all that perfect but now my screen protector is good no problems

I'm on the same boat and unless there's a screen protector that only covers the screen and doesn't go up to the four corners, I don't think there are any screen protectors out there right now that won't get pushed in by a case.

How is it that no one has ever heard of GPEL tempered glass
(GEN 2) for the s7 edge. its amazing!!!
mine broke once & they even sent me a free replacement too!

grem323 said:
How is it that no one has ever heard of GPEL tempered glass
(GEN 2) for the s7 edge. its amazing!!!
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Here's a review of the GPEL one. It's not a positive one.
"Review of the GPEL Tempered Glass Screen Protector for the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge"
https://youtu.be/FZxTsYOQdak

i've had this tempered glass for about 2.5 months now. I use it with the samsung leather case & the ringke slim case.
as long as you dont use a case that extends/overlaps over the edges this works beautifully!!
i wouldnt mind buying this again! Highly recommended!
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the glass reviewed in the above video is gen 1 which i admit did have issues.
they had fixed most gripes with gen 2 since!

Zagg Invisible Shield glass curve for S7 Edge rocks!
mutiny said:
I'm on the same boat and unless there's a screen protector that only covers the screen and doesn't go up to the four corners, I don't think there are any screen protectors out there right now that won't get pushed in by a case.
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I ran into the same thing, but I found the Zagg Invisible Shield glass curve for S7 Edge. It is expensive, but it is a bit smaller than the others so most cases don't affect it and work fine. I'm currently using it with the SUPCASE Unicorn Beetle Hybrid case.
So far this is the only curved glass screen protector that works with anything more than a minimal case.
Here's the link to the screen protector:
https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invis...xy-s7-edge/glass-curve-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge
and the case:
https://www.amazon.com/SUPCASE-Unic...s=Galaxy+S7+Edge+Case,+SUPCASE+Unicorn+Beetle

[Question] What is a good brand of tempered glass that works and effective?

So the question is probably familiar from past phones from Sammy such as Note8 or S8/s8+ lol... The consensus from previous reads on XDA and reddit seems to be Whitestone Dome but a lot also gave negative reviews of it due it either lose touch response, or peeling off too easy. I had purchased a full adhesive from aliexpress for my Note8 but could not really use it since I sold the phone to get the S9+ . Anyone has any good recommendation for a tempered glass based on the brands they got for their previous Sammy? I mean recommendation as in, they dropped the phone with it on, like on the corners and the screen survived even though the glass shattered? Case would be great too, as I have a Supcase on the way. Thanks!!

Not the Whitestone then? I was almost about to pull the trigger on getting one for the S9+ but I'm hesitant now.

I've been using Whitestone for myself and my kids, although it has it's fragilities (cold, an snow can alter it) its the best i've tried. I've already ordered mine for the S9+... If i were you get a couple... just in case. As once you've tested it, you won't go back on the side glued ones. You just need to glue it well, and don't be in a hurry.
I've never had issues with touch sensitivity or peeling off (that's even nuts as it's literally glued to the screen, if you break the dome and need to peel it off you should be careful as it's glued it shatters and pieces can jump).

There may be another option now and as upset as I was with the first interation of Zagg's tempered glass screen protector for the s8+, they have come out with the glass curve elite. https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invisibleshield/glass-curve-elite-samsung-galaxy-s9-plus/ They say that it has full adhesion. So if it actually works well they supply a lifetime warranty. It is 49.99 so it's expensive but I'm going to give it a shot.
Whitestone was great but with a long installation process, I went for it twice, I'm going to (no offense) pass on Whitestone for my s9+. If there was a tempered glass product for curved screens that was as easy to install as a flat screen tempered glass screen protector, and like a conventional screen protector has good full glass adhesion I'm going to go for that option.

I have tried almost 5 brands but still did not get satisfactory result.

Just pre ordered the white stone. It was the best on the note 8.

Upgrading from two S7 edge to two S9+ (already pre-ordered) I never tried tempered glass on my smartphones because I found them a little too expensive to justify given that I have to buy two glass protectors. The OTAO 3D glass protector looked to be an "inexpensive" way to give tempered glass a try, but someone on the S9 thread about Screen Protectors complained about the OTAO falling off his phone whenever he took it out of his pocket. Some folks have also mentioned that this protector doesn't fully cover the curve edge which makes it "case friendly", but this also make it less appealing. These two negative findings put some doubt in my mind about ordering this specific protector for now. Folks using the S8+ have given this protector a "good" review on Amazon. But I also don't know if most of these reviews are for the "old" version or for the "Updated" version on this protector for the S8+. If there's someone here that has used the "Updated" OTAO protector on a Galaxy phone with a curved screen (preferably the S8+)... can you tell us about your experience? I guessthe "Updated" version is the one being used for the S9+.
I have used Zagg's Invisible HD shields on all my smartphones. I found them to be durable and compatible with many cases. Including cases for the S7 edge.Installing them is a little complex and you need to get it right the first time in order to avoid bubbles and the edges from lifting. I had to return the one that I installed on my wife's S7 edge once because a corner kept lifting and getting dust under it. All I had to do was return the old one and they send me a new one. Once I installed the replacement correctly, it has stayed on her phone for over a year without any issues. I'm waiting for it to be available in Amazon as they're usually discounted. The Zagg website indicates that they're sold out of their Invisible HD shield for the S9+

tamanaco said:
Upgrading from two S7 edge to two S9+ (already pre-ordered) I never tried tempered glass on my smartphones because I found them a little too expensive to justify given that I have to buy two glass protectors. The OTAO 3D glass protector looked to be an "inexpensive" way to give tempered glass a try, but someone on the S9 thread about Screen Protectors complained about the OTAO falling off his phone whenever he took it out of his pocket. Some folks have also mentioned that this protector doesn't fully cover the curve edge which makes it "case friendly", but this also make it less appealing. These two negative findings put some doubt in my mind about ordering this specific protector for now. Folks using the S8+ have given this protector a "good" review on Amazon. But I also don't know if most of these reviews are for the "old" version or for the "Updated" version on this protector for the S8+. If there's someone here that has used the "Updated" OTAO protector on a Galaxy phone with a curved screen (preferably the S8+)... can you tell us about your experience? I guessthe "Updated" version is the one being used for the S9+.
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OTAO have two versions, a case-friendly one, which has to leave a couple of areas exposed for the case to fit, and a full cover one. I have had the case friendly one on my S8 and been very pleased with it. Never popped off. One person complaining his came off should not be taken to be evidence that there is something inherently wrong. There could be two reasons - either his was slightly faulty with not enough glue - no company has 100% quality control - or maybe he didn't press it on hard enough when he fitted it.
I've had two. The first one cracked when I dropped the phone on a marble floor but the phone screen was unmarked. Even though it cracked, it did not pop off. The edges still stuck. The second one is still on the phone.

Peanuttree said:
There may be another option now and as upset as I was with the first interation of Zagg's tempered glass screen protector for the s8+, they have come out with the glass curve elite. https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invisibleshield/glass-curve-elite-samsung-galaxy-s9-plus/ They say that it has full adhesion. So if it actually works well they supply a lifetime warranty. It is 49.99 so it's expensive but I'm going to give it a shot.
Whitestone was great but with a long installation process, I went for it twice, I'm going to (no offense) pass on Whitestone for my s9+. If there was a tempered glass product for curved screens that was as easy to install as a flat screen tempered glass screen protector, and like a conventional screen protector has good full glass adhesion I'm going to go for that option.
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Will be interested to hear how this full adhesive version stacks up against the LOCA types.
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n-j-f said:
OTAO have two versions, a case-friendly one, which has to leave a couple of areas exposed for the case to fit, and a full cover one. I have had the case friendly one on my S8 and been very pleased with it. Never popped off. One person complaining his came off should not be taken to be evidence that there is something inherently wrong. There could be two reasons - either his was slightly faulty with not enough glue - no company has 100% quality control - or maybe he didn't press it on hard enough when he fitted it.
I've had two. The first one cracked when I dropped the phone on a marble floor but the phone screen was unmarked. Even though it cracked, it did not pop off. The edges still stuck. The second one is still on the phone.
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Thanks for your reply... The complains put "some doubt" in my mind about the protector, I had not concluded that there was something inherently wrong with the OTAO. I posted here because I wanted to hear comments from other folks before I made my decision.
I didn't know that OTAO also made a protector that fully covers the screen, but after you mentioned it... I searched further and also found the OTAO Full Screen Coverage - Double Strong 3D in Amazon. At the same $12 price as the Case Friendly. At this price point, I might get one of each and test them with the case I'm going to use. I'm looking for a slim TPU cases from Spigen, EasyAcc, ESR and Caseologic. Currently, I use a Ringke Slim case with my S7 edge, but given the larger screen size of the S9+; I'd like a more protective setup. What case are you using on your S8 with the OTAO case friendly protector?... Thanks again.

xterminater07 said:
So the question is probably familiar from past phones from Sammy such as Note8 or S8/s8+ lol... The consensus from previous reads on XDA and reddit seems to be Whitestone Dome but a lot also gave negative reviews of it due it either lose touch response, or peeling off too easy. I had purchased a full adhesive from aliexpress for my Note8 but could not really use it since I sold the phone to get the S9+ . Anyone has any good recommendation for a tempered glass based on the brands they got for their previous Sammy? I mean recommendation as in, they dropped the phone with it on, like on the corners and the screen survived even though the glass shattered? Case would be great too, as I have a Supcase on the way. Thanks!!
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For my gs8+, I've had good experiences with both the Otao TGSP and the newer full-adhesive ones.
Until a full-adhesive TGSP comes out for the gs9+ from a company I recognize, I'm gonna start with the Otao gs9+ TGSP.
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optimummind said:
For my gs8+, I've had good experiences with both the Otao TGSP and the newer full-adhesive ones.
Until a full-adhesive TGSP comes out for the gs9+ from a company I recognize, I'm gonna start with the Otao gs9+ TGSP.
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https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invis...protector/glass-curve-elite-samsung-galaxy-s9

optimummind said:
For my gs8+, I've had good experiences with both the Otao TGSP and the newer full-adhesive ones.
Until a full-adhesive TGSP comes out for the gs9+ from a company I recognize, I'm gonna start with the Otao gs9+ TGSP.
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How's the adhesive on the OTAO full adhesive for the s8+ that u got?

xterminater07 said:
How's the adhesive on the OTAO full adhesive for the s8+ that u got?
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I'm using this one:
EyeO2 Screen Protector for Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus 9H Full Adhesive 3D Curved Tempered Glass Guard High Sensitivity HD Full Cover Edge Protector S8+ Protective Film Replacement Accessories Black 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074QN6ZB5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jPHNAbDN9V2VR
And it's good.
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Well I've gambled on the zagg + defender combo, I hope they play nice.....
Will report back......

i've just ordered this can anyone recommend a decent case please.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Protector-...=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1520177568&sr=1-3

I just ordered the Zagg. Saved £4 using promo code zagg10 at checkout. £36 felt easier to swallow then £40!
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n-j-f said:
OTAO have two versions, a case-friendly one, which has to leave a couple of areas exposed for the case to fit, and a full cover one. I have had the case friendly one on my S8 and been very pleased with it. Never popped off. One person complaining his came off should not be taken to be evidence that there is something inherently wrong. There could be two reasons - either his was slightly faulty with not enough glue - no company has 100% quality control - or maybe he didn't press it on hard enough when he fitted it.
I've had two. The first one cracked when I dropped the phone on a marble floor but the phone screen was unmarked. Even though it cracked, it did not pop off. The edges still stuck. The second one is still on the phone.
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I also have an OTAO on my Note 8 - fits beautifully - holds very well - smooth - full responsiveness - no issues at all.

Geekser said:
I also have an OTAO on my Note 8 - fits beautifully - holds very well - smooth - full responsiveness - no issues at all.
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What version of the OTAO are you using on your Note 8 [Case Friendly] or [Full Screen Coverage]? Are you using the "Updated" version that I believe has "full-adhesive"? Are you also using a case and if so... which one?

xterminater07 said:
So the question is probably familiar from past phones from Sammy such as Note8 or S8/s8+ lol... The consensus from previous reads on XDA and reddit seems to be Whitestone Dome but a lot also gave negative reviews of it due it either lose touch response, or peeling off too easy. I had purchased a full adhesive from aliexpress for my Note8 but could not really use it since I sold the phone to get the S9+ . Anyone has any good recommendation for a tempered glass based on the brands they got for their previous Sammy? I mean recommendation as in, they dropped the phone with it on, like on the corners and the screen survived even though the glass shattered? Case would be great too, as I have a Supcase on the way. Thanks!!
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I'll be working on a buyers guide today and tomorrow it will be on my channel.. In the mean time I posted a thread about a 10 dollar dome glass copy from the supplying factory and their are a few full adhesive glass protectors I'm tested.. All the others are the same generic ones just like the S8/N8