I'm sorry about the title, it's probably a bit too vague but basically I would like to put a custom rom on my 6p and I'm not exactly sure what are the advantages and disadvantages of a CM based rom vs stock based rom.
So was hoping someone could enlighten me a bit and make my decision easier.
CM based ROMs:
-Advantages-
*Customizable
*More frequent updates, latest patches (Android version/GApps/bugfixes)
-Disadvantages-
*Sound mods won't work (V4A, XTREMEMusic etc.)
*Worse sounds compared to Google based roms, also worse music playback on headphones.
*Bit instabil
*Because of Deodex, it's a bit slower. (app opening, not really noticeable)
Google based ROMs:
-Advantages-
*Every mod should work
*Not as buggy as CM based ROMs
*Because of Odex, it's faster (app opening, not really noticeable)
*Better music playback
-Disadvantages-
*Nearly no customization
*Less frequent updates
These are only my opiniion! Hope i helped (Sorry for my english)
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_MartyMan_ said:
More frequent updates, latest patches (Android version/GApps/bugfixes)
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Not true. ROMs based on Google releases are updated just as frequently and contain the same patches.
_MartyMan_ said:
Because of Deodex, it's a bit slower. (app opening, not really noticeable)
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Not all CM based ROMs are deodexed.
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_MartyMan_ said:
Because of Odex, it's faster (app opening, not really noticeable)
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Not all Google based ROMs are odexed.
_MartyMan_ said:
Nearly no customization
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Nearly no customisation on Google based ROMs? What? That's just plain wrong, sorry. The majority of ROMs available for this device are based on the Google releases and are also some of the most customisable ROMs available. Google based ROMs and CM based ROMs contain the same level of potential customisation.
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Nearly no customization
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As above, not true. ROMs based on Google releases are updated just as frequently and contain the same patches.
Heisenberg said:
[size=+2]In regards to your comments about CM based ROMs:[/size]
Not true. ROMs based on Google releases are updated just as frequently and contain the same patches.
Not all CM based ROMs are deodexed.
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Not all Google based ROMs are odexed.
Nearly no customisation on Google based ROMs? What? That's just plain wrong, sorry. The majority of ROMs available for this device are based on the Google releases and are also some of the most customisable ROMs available. Google based ROMs and CM based ROMs contain the same level of potential customisation.
As above, not true. ROMs based on Google releases are updated just as frequently and contain the same patches.
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@Heisenberg which rom (if any) are you running on your 6P?
kingmikel said:
@Heisenberg which rom (if any) are you running on your 6P?
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Pure Nexus.
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Can google edition roms be customizable? For instance on AOSP roms pretty much everything can be customized? Thank you in advance.
Check out this great thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343938
Your question may already be answered within its pages. Cheers
STVERDI said:
Can google edition roms be customizable? For instance on AOSP roms pretty much everything can be customized? Thank you in advance.
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GE ROMs still have a TouchWiz backbone, so you will not see the level of customization that ROMs based on AOSP and / or CM have. Maybe in the future.
there is a thread below this one for google questions.
Hey XDA,
So I came from the Toro GNex and really enjoyed both Muzzy and Shiny's roms since they were both a very vanilla version of AOSP.
Does anyone know of any roms, specifically for Verizon, that are pretty close to vanilla AOSP? I would prefer stability over custom features that many devs have added to their versions of AOSP.
Thanks in advance for your help!
FatHeadBob said:
Hey XDA,
So I came from the Toro GNex and really enjoyed both Muzzy and Shiny's roms since they were both a very vanilla version of AOSP.
Does anyone know of any roms, specifically for Verizon, that are pretty close to vanilla AOSP? I would prefer stability over custom features that many devs have added to their versions of AOSP.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Since the G2 didn't come with an AOSP, people have mostly been using AOKP or CM to make their vanilla-ish ROMs. I haven't seen anything that's just plain AOSP.
Have you tried other ROMs?
ddzado said:
Since the G2 didn't come with an AOSP, people have mostly been using AOKP or CM to make their vanilla-ish ROMs. I haven't seen anything that's just plain AOSP.
Have you tried other ROMs?
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I've been pretty swamped at work, so I haven't had a lot of time for crack flashing any AOSP roms. Currently I'm running debloated stock.
I didn't realize PA or CM were close to vanilla AOSP, do you recommend giving them a shot/are they stable at this point?
FatHeadBob said:
I've been pretty swamped at work, so I haven't had a lot of time for crack flashing any AOSP roms. Currently I'm running debloated stock.
I didn't realize PA or CM were close to vanilla AOSP, do you recommend giving them a shot/are they stable at this point?
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So I'm on CM11 using the nightly build from 1/31. You can try the latest nightly, but there' have been reported issues. I'm not familiar with them though. There's a lot of talk on the G+ CM community. I'd join that anyway.
Whatever you do, do a complete backup so you can just revert back if something isn't to your liking.
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So I'm on CM11 using the nightly build from 1/31. You can try the latest nightly, but there' have been reported issues. I'm not familiar with them though. There's a lot of talk on the G+ CM community. I'd join that anyway.
Whatever you do, do a complete backup so you can just revert back if something isn't to your liking.
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Thanks for the advice, very helpful!
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Thanks for the advice, very helpful!
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I'm on PA 4.0 Beta 6 and I really like it. There is a new 4.1 version out that I think is good, but it took out some of the customization (so it's probably worth trying both to see which you like). PA is vanilla I think...I've ran it for so long I don't have a reference point any more haha. I came from a Toro GNex on PA 3.99.
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I'm on PA 4.0 Beta 6 and I really like it. There is a new 4.1 version out that I think is good, but it took out some of the customization (so it's probably worth trying both to see which you like). PA is vanilla I think...I've ran it for so long I don't have a reference point any more haha. I came from a Toro GNex on PA 3.99.
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Also came from toro Gnex and used vanir there. Now I use PA.:good:
For the record, ParanoidAndroid is normally FAR from pure vanilla AOSP, it's only vanilla-ish now because the main features(hybrid engine, Hover(the Halo replacement), per-app dpi, etc.) are not finished yet. That being said, stability is never really an issue(all ROMs have issues at the moment, at least until the new 4.4 kernel sources can be implemented). I factory flashed my manta last weekend, and I forgot how bare pure AOSP really is. Most custom features add to the experience, and if you don't like them you can just turn them off. :good:
Still, the G2 is lacking a true AOSP ROM. Again, PA doesn't count because eventually it will re-add all the features in a few months time. There's nothing like Purity or RastaKat for the G2. I was contemplating learning how to port Purity over to the G2 earlier, seeing as how Purity has a hammerhead version. I just don't have the time at the moment.
Why are not we seeing Oxygen OS based custom ROM development like those seen for Touchwiz etc? Till the time stable CM comes out for OP2, Oxygen isn't that bad. With xposed you can get enough features of CM. But the one thing where Oxygen lacks is that it doesn't have all the commits for proper functionality of RRO layers themes. May be developers can add those commits.
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lalit.kultham said:
Why are not we seeing Oxygen OS based custom ROM development like those seen for Touchwiz etc? Till the time stable CM comes out for OP2, Oxygen isn't that bad. With xposed you can get enough features of CM. But the one thing where Oxygen lacks is that it doesn't have all the commits for proper functionality of RRO layers themes. May be developers can add those commits.
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Flash a different ROM if you want all the layers commits (SlimRom).
OmegaBlaze said:
Flash a different ROM if you want all the layers commits (SlimRom).
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Still this does not answer the main question. Why there are no Oxygen based Roms? There are bunch of ToutchWiz or Sense based roms and they are really great, in some cases even better then CM,AOSP,AOKP .. like i had HTC One X, every Sense ROM had better camera performance and even battery life, sound quallity and so.. Like Android Revolution HD.
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Still this does not answer the main question. Why there are no Oxygen based Roms? There are bunch of ToutchWiz or Sense based roms and they are really great, in some cases even better then CM,AOSP,AOKP .. like i had HTC One X, every Sense ROM had better camera performance and even battery life, sound quallity and so.. Like Android Revolution HD.
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Because there are no oxygenos sources out there.
They've released only kernel sources, not ROM sources, like most OEMs do.
Hetalk said:
Because there are no oxygenos sources out there.
They've released only kernel sources, not ROM sources, like most OEMs do.
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Those bastards.. i really had hope for OP team for being open to developers .. as it seems i was wrong.
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Those bastards.. i really had hope for OP team for being open to developers .. as it seems i was wrong.
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No OEMs do that. Nothing wrong in that.
Hetalk said:
No OEMs do that. Nothing wrong in that.
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So why there are like custom Sense or TouchWiz roms?
redh4t said:
So why there are like custom Sense or TouchWiz roms?
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They might be ported ROMs, not ROMs built from source.
redh4t said:
Still this does not answer the main question. Why there are no Oxygen based Roms? There are bunch of ToutchWiz or Sense based roms and they are really great, in some cases even better then CM,AOSP,AOKP .. like i had HTC One X, every Sense ROM had better camera performance and even battery life, sound quallity and so.. Like Android Revolution HD.
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OXYGEN OS IS CLOSED SOURCE! GOOGLE IT, rather than start a thread.
I think those Samsung and sense roms are "kitchen" roms someone modified from stock firmware images, oneoplus hasn't release firmware images
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After the April Fools prank (MOD), I started looking for an alternative to CM and I not found any pure AOSP.
I wonder how many people would like to have AOSP ROM?
Is there any developer willing to build for us? Thanks
Rangell11 said:
After the April Fools prank (MOD), I started looking for an alternative to CM and I not found any pure AOSP.
I wonder how many people would like to have AOSP ROM?
Is there any developer willing to build for us? Thanks
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Check out Exodus ROM. It's AOSP based and in the early stages of development, so it's fairly vanilla until now.
Rangell11 said:
After the April Fools prank (MOD), I started looking for an alternative to CM and I not found any pure AOSP.
I wonder how many people would like to have AOSP ROM?
Is there any developer willing to build for us? Thanks
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google edition is stock based on aosp rom..
sh1bby said:
Check out Exodus ROM. It's AOSP based and in the early stages of development, so it's fairly vanilla until now.
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Thanks. I try but they changed the soft buttons and animation of transition and other things.
raptorddd said:
google edition is stock based on aosp rom..
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Google edition is android 5.0.
raptorddd said:
google edition is stock based on aosp rom..
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nope...
google edition rom is just a skinned stock 5.0.2 rom, debloated and with a google apps instead of some LG stock ones (i.e. google dialer, google contacts,...)
I found one ROM almost pure AOSP but dont have for our G2.
github.com/AOSPB
That plus CM device tree, I dont think it would be very difficult.
I would like to try, but I have an old PC.
If i remember correctly, orion os is aosp
migueldbr said:
If i remember correctly, orion os is aosp
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Orion os is based on AOSPB with a lot customizations. But I will try. Tks
Hey!
I was wondering which ROM available for lux isn't based on Cyanogenmod? With the current situation, I don't know if anything based on CM is good in the long run (although I may be wrong). Until LineageOS for lux comes out I'd like to try that.
Thanks
Prosis said:
Hey!
I was wondering which ROM available for lux isn't based on Cyanogenmod? With the current situation, I don't know if anything based on CM is good in the long run (although I may be wrong). Until LineageOS for lux comes out I'd like to try that.
Thanks
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AOSP roms
pijes said:
AOSP roms
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On the AOSP Extended ROM they thank Cyanogenmod. I thought that meant it was based on it.
I found no mention of CM on the Validus ROM. Is that one?
Prosis said:
On the AOSP Extended ROM they thank Cyanogenmod. I thought that meant it was based on it.
I found no mention of CM on the Validus ROM. Is that one?
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It's not based on CM, but it has features cherry-picked from CM sources. It's still an AOSP base though.
xDroid4Lifex said:
It's not based on CM, but it has features cherry-picked from CM sources. It's still an AOSP base though.
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Does that mean its development is in jeopardy?
Prosis said:
Does that mean its development is in jeopardy?
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No. CM development has ceased but the team has moved on to create LineageOS, which is a fork of CM afaik. AOSP will never be in jeopardy in the foreseeable future as that is Android OS itself without google services.
xDroid4Lifex said:
No. CM development has ceased but the team has moved on to create LineageOS, which is a fork of CM afaik. AOSP will never be in jeopardy in the foreseeable future as that is Android OS itself without google services.
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Oh that's right! They can just use the updates from LineageOS to update the features they got from CM.
Thanks
In the meantime I've read that it's best not to use CM until LineageOS comes out (thus my question). Is that exaggerated?