A5 2016 - huge RAM usage and system-wide crashes - Galaxy A3, A5, A7, A8, A9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Hi.
So, I bought a Galaxy A5 2016 as my new daily driver. What a beautiful phone, really. Pretty fast, better than I expected, I must say. But things are not going so well.
I have a intense usage pattern. On the morning, I use Spotify (sth like 20-30 min), then e-mail sync through the day (every 5m) + browsing and messaging apps. Then, more 40m of Spotify. Everything seems in pair with other devices with similar price and hardware specs. Until today.
As my usage pattern reports, I always use Spotify for 20-30 mins every morning. Today, I was using it, and the song suddenly stopped. As a coincidence, my 3G connection is limited - so it's not operating on its normal speed, which roams about 3Mbps~5Mbps - so I thought that the connection was dropped. When I pressed the HOME button, nothing happened. The song suddenly stopped, along with the system. 10 seconds later, the song returned to play. Less than 5 minutes later, the same bug happened again - same MO. 10 seconds off, returns, didn't happen again. Tested Spotify on the afternoon (same conditions + SAMSUNG personal music player running together), didn't happen too.
Along with that, my RAM usage is pretty high. Besides my downloaded applications, the RAM is mostly consumed by the system itself - so maybe root will fix it. But I'd like to know if anyone ran into this abnormal RAM usage. I even thought about memory leak, but that seems a bit odd, since the memory leak stopped being reported in Android 5.1.
Has anyone ran into any of this issues before? Thanks in advance.

I have it for two days now, yup, ram is at least 80% when I clean up the memory.
It's also pretty hot during the lightest use, average temperature is 35C. When idle it's at least 28C. Anyway, glass backpanel feels really hot, is it normal?
What's your average temperature?

I also want to report that i have the same problem on my A510F on MM 6.0.1 (no root). I have disabled many apps like Skype, S-voice, all the microsoft apps and some system apps that could be disabled but pretty much nothing changed... My ram usage is always around 70%, if i clean it it goes down to 55%-60% but then it gets full again. This does have an impact on the overall performance since on heavy games and generally heavy usage, the phone lags and gets hot. I want to know if ROOTING the device and installing xposed modules and/or uninstalling much of the samsung crap will help the phone breath normally. Any answer or tip is welcome

I have at least 70% of RAM usage and i think it is ok... but there ia a problem over 85-90%: then I have almost same problem as you. It's my second A5 16 and still have this problem. I don't know what to do. This issue happens increasingly. I have 5.1.1 and still hope for removing this problem with marshmallow update.
Anyone more has this problem?
Any ideas what to do?
It makes this phone useless when happens so often![emoji35]
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konar02 said:
I have at least 70% of RAM usage and i think it is ok... but there ia a problem over 85-90%: then I have almost same problem as you. It's my second A5 16 and still have this problem. I don't know what to do. This issue happens increasingly. I have 5.1.1 and still hope for removing this problem with marshmallow update.
Anyone more has this problem?
Any ideas what to do?
It makes this phone useless when happens so often![emoji35]
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Same problems on MM too, 70-85% RAM usage...hope to solve in feature updates.
Sent from my SM-T560 using XDA-Developers mobile app

I don't see anything bad in usage above 85%, the problem is closing, crashing and lagging apps.
If MM (update for Europe/Poland) doesn't fix it I will probably sell this phone. It's unbelievable to crash apps during using just a 2 of them (in my case Spotify and instagram at top and a few used before).
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Did anyone try to fix this problem by "turning off apps in background" in programist options?
I would really like to do that, but every time when I turn this option ON and go back to settings and again go to programist settings it is turned off again - can anyone try to do it on yours phone?
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Mine is always around 55~60% but free RAM = wasted RAM in Android
More free RAM =/= Smoothness
My A5 2016 can multitask very well (Even with games!) and not much lags

So why some of A5's has so huge problems with ram managing?
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Is there any stock Android like ROM available for Galaxy a5?

I get MM update yesterday, after 24 I can say my problem stops. Phone seem to be faster and don't get above 87% ram usage.
I didn't restore A5 16 to factory settings.
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I have problem with level battery when Reach 5% my mobile trun off ??? Plz slov

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First thing which you should do is restoring to factory settings and then we will see.
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did this happen after u do an update?
im using A5 (2016) for my daily driver.. using spotify a lot too when comutting. never failed me until now (4 month). in my region A5 still dont get MM yet. so i manually upgrade to ROM everymonth with russia region (MM). suprisingly samsung do apply 'android security update' every month for A series.
is ur device is locked by some carrier? AT-T /other? if not try flashing with Russia ROM. u can flash with odin. fear not, ur data & apps still intact. if u flash official fw with odin.
for ram usage, i think this is not a problem. the multitasking still flawless for 2GB of ram. the feature i like from this phone is the GPS. lock very fast. im glad buying this phone. the only downside for me is 'no notification led'

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I am new to android is the Arc meant to be so laggy and buggy??

My Arc keeps crashing asking me to force close apps and the homescreen it lags like hell and it is getting worst all the time so bad that even opening my texts takes a couple more than 10 seconds... (I do have around 2000 texts though)
Unlocking the screen is laggy scrolling on threw the 5 homescreens is laggy...
Sync turned off.
No timespace widget.
Even after removing all widgets to test it it was laggy
I used advanced task killer to kill all the apps to try the quadrant test
and I only got 850-950 MAX!!
Compared to youtube videos that seem to get almost double scores why is my
Arc is slow is it faulty?
Is it because I only have 40mb of phone memory and about 500mb sd card memory left?
Will I just have to flash my phone and does that mean I will need to flash every 2 weeks???
I think you have installed some applications which caysing this problem I had this problem, then i flashed my phone again & installed apps again (didn't restore).. But i didn't installed all apps at once, i spent time & installed 2, 3 apps everyday to check if the app would make phone laggy or slow. Since then my phone is working awesome, my 16GB memory card is almost full, 400 MB internal memory is full (After root i have removed many useless system apps)... I have more than 4000 sms & there is no lag or slowness Quadrant score is 1650
the only time i experienced lag was with adw launcher and no fc's yet, other than that the phone has been fast - then again i don't have as many apps or data on my phone as you. one thing i did notice is that my lcd's touch sensitivity seems to be lower than other arc's, maybe a defect, but it's pretty maddening in addition to all the reboots i've been having. i've been reading about others that have issues with the battery staying in place and like me, the random reboots, this is my first android phone, so not sure if these things are normal or if it just the arc.
It's definitely apps.
Mine is superfast...
Apps and possibly task killing the wrong things.. you need to make sure that if you're going to use a task killer, you really shouldn't us it on Auto.. and you should make sure to IGNORE anything that is a system task, or anything which persistently restarts.. killing those only wastes battery.
Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
Hi,
It seams that sometimes Android must be reflashed on a Device, especially on Tmobile Devices it will fix most of the problems.
Another tip: Uninstall the update of gmaps and reinstall it, on my device it blocks login to gmail and gtalk from one day to another! -.-
Greetings
Alef
Nope the ARC does not Lag very often and i think its ur device's memory thats giving you the trouble along with that huge pile of messages .... or the Corrupt software that might have crept in ...
My advice would be to flash ur ARC ASAP and limit that 2000+ messages and u will see a difference. Avoid putting too many apps as well.
Arc is a Size Zero Lady ... Don't burden it with Heavy Foodstufff ...
Might create Digestion problems. Keep it Light and it'll stay FIT.
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Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
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What do you mean "isn't the most stable"? I've been able to keep my phone on for weeks without a reboot. Seems stable enough to me.
Ok turns out I had 110 apps I deleted al the heavy ones and am down to 60 now!! My phone now got 1200 on quadrant. I dont kill any system ups or have an auto task killer set up I just kill uneeded apps before I run benchmarks?
Plus I noticed I have some orange apps that keep coming up even though I never used them... I might have to debrand and try again but my phobe is much much more stable now thanks!!
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chances are it wasn't the number of apps you had which was causing the problem, but that one of them (or possible several of them!) which you deleted were badly written and hogging the processor when they should have been sitting quietly in the background..
Orange is well known for screwing devices with bloatware also.
Wow!!
That's a lot of apps you've installed and most likely loads of them are badly written like iceman said; I installed a file browser on mine not long after getting the phone which would pause the whole system for up to a minute, plus battery was highly drained.
I guess this is result of massively varied hardware for one mobile OS. (Plus bad programming)

Any reviews for Stock Firmware 32.2.A.0.305

Hi
Just wondering how those running Stock Firmware 32.2.A.0.305 have found the phone to be working?
Any issues or improvements with:
- battery life
- overheating
- phone/wifi signal
- fingerprint sensor
- camera photo quality
- Bluetooth music jitter
Or anything else?
Thanks
R
I'm running Heptyle's kernel, .305 Custom DE and debloated with script.
I haven't reached conclusions yet but so far I think my battery life is better than .253
During app installation (clean installation) I got the feeling it ran less hot.
No further differences until now regarding to your other items.
I'm only going to run STOCK I'm not going to root the phone.
Nothing special here.
Volume for notifications got fixed. And security level is aug 2016 (shame on Sony)
The option to enable the google now pane in the Xperia Launcher (beta?) is back. Note that I did join that Google+ group for getting beta updates of the Launcher.
Camera format settings were reset for me after the upgrade. The version of the app is now 1.0.C.2.7 but I didn't check before the upgrade what it was.
So far it's been smooth, but nothing notably new.
Feels just about the same in all regards
I'm running 32.2.A.0.224 and heard bad things about .253 so have not updated.
I upgraded to the latest one (.305) from EE (UK) on Thursday, and accidently bricked the device (took over an hour to upgrade and so I forgot it was upgrading - d'oh) so have ended up with a clean install.
- battery life : At this time of the day I used to be at 52% (.253), currently 80% (has been off charge for 5 hours so far), was pretty poor for the first two days while Google Play music was hammering the WiFi connection downloading music (why can't it see what's already on the SD Card - argh!), but still an improvement of .253 which was appalling.
It used to be that Google Play Services and Android System were the top users by a country mile - today it's Screen (27%) and Beyond Pod (9%)
- overheating : Certainly running cooler
- phone/wifi signal : No issues before or since
- fingerprint sensor : No issues before or since
- camera photo quality : No issues before or since
- Bluetooth music jitter : As solid as it has been since the last upgrade, i.e. Bluetooth is problem free, Wired occasionally jitters approx 20 minutes after losing Wifi.
Or anything else?
WiFi Calling still temperamental (i.e. needing a reboot), less of an issue for me now I have VoLTE and new masts cover work and home better.
Thanks very much for that excellent and detailed response
I hope this will fix things. On .253 I'm having issues with the finger print scanner, saying hardware is unavailable after long periods of not using the phone. Also, the camera crashes when trying to take a video. gifs and videos on apps such as facebook or youtube doesn't play too. Restart fixes things but it's annoying that I have to do it at the start of the day, every single day. Would love to hear from somebody with same issues who upgraded from .253
I updated to this and done a factory reset (I always do this after installing new update). My device for more than 10 hours now has problem with volume.
If I play any music (on full volume) for more than 1 seconds the volume level is reduced dramatically. My phone has never been in contact with water or anything. As of now I have turned the phone off/on and still no difference. I have used Google Play, Spotify and the same problem occurs.
On the other hand it doesn't heat up. Battery life seems a tad better if I recall so far. Other than that no difference apart from a message I got about battery charging.
Seems to be the hearing protection. New build.prop in .305 is without persist.audio.hp entry. Just re-add it to build.prop (persist.audio.hp=false), reboot and should be working again (you need to be rooted).
MiracleMiah said:
I updated to this and done a factory reset (I always do this after installing new update). My device for more than 10 hours now has problem with volume.
If I play any music (on full volume) for more than 1 seconds the volume level is reduced dramatically. My phone has never been in contact with water or anything. As of now I have turned the phone off/on and still no difference. I have used Google Play, Spotify and the same problem occurs.
On the other hand it doesn't heat up. Battery life seems a tad better if I recall so far. Other than that no difference apart from a message I got about battery charging.
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Di you have Root?
Ever have problems before?
Yes, I'm rooted (just check tobias waldvogels rootkernel thread), but you need to have unlocked bootloader first (don't forget to make TA backup!).
i found that the phone gets warm (more than previous firmware) when browsing the web using chrome.
i noticed that the sony email client doesnt check/update as quickly enough compared to previous firmware.
i did notice couple of things have been fixed, but my overall suspicion of this firmware is that it introduces more issues than it fixed.
also some kind of security has been introduced to stop you from hiding apps such as the quick apps bar.
im also curious why sony introduced that "battery optimization"? has it to do with maybe the batteries starting to bubble hence causing the back cover to crack? so by reducing the charge amount it sort of stops that from happening?
im also running stock firmware.
I would appreciate you come back w/ a review after a month of usage. If you have been using Android for a significant amount of time, then you know that it's always good in the beginning. I don't think much stock should be put in a review done after a day besides ease of installation and (maybe) initial impressions, imho
ive gone back to .253 firmware. this previous version seems to work much better on my australian z5 compact.
no heating issues. battery is better. email app works better etc. etc.
yes it does have the annoying low volume and a issue with the sms app (when trying to add certain photos). but overall to me it works better than .305 version.
harry_turtle said:
I'm running Heptyle's kernel, .305 Custom DE and debloated with script.
I haven't reached conclusions yet but so far I think my battery life is better than .253
During app installation (clean installation) I got the feeling it ran less hot.
No further differences until now regarding to your other items.
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Which Script you are using to debloat?
Baron1971 said:
Which Script you are using to debloat?
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A few weeks ago, I tried this. From @FcukBloat
But for me it didn't work. When I flashed, I got a message that the zip was corrupt (which I can't believe, and it's not the first time this happened). And I also had a problem with Online Nandroid, so in the end I had to redo it.
This time, I just did manually what the script should automate. Next time I'll figure out how to build it myself, if I'm smart enough.
So after a week of 305 vs 253 - I've managed to get through to the end of the day without needing to charge one or twice throughout the day every single day, the phone is running much cooler (i.e. most of the time there is no heat detectable), and is also less laggy, especially when launching the camera. Battery life is getting better by the day too - now at 60% (after being off charger for 12.5 hours) with Google Play Music, twitter, and an hour of MapMyWalk (so GPS usage) - on 253 I'd have been below 20% at this point of the day.
rossyl said:
I'm only going to run STOCK I'm not going to root the phone.
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im also going pure stock unrooted locked bootloader ,at least till warranty void anyway\ OR the phone become really slow for some reason, and root will help
example: this phone got only 2GB RAM which very bad multitasking , and heavy apps like CSR2 left my phone with only 200MB .
so i guess il need more Swapfile\Z-ram @1s
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BTW
305 still didn't released in my state anyone got idea how to check when it will come out? it is possible?

Lg v20 multiple app installation is frustrating

So just got my v20 and it seems great in most ways but one thing that has really started to bug me is when I try to install 2 or more apps at the same time the phone runs incredibly sluggishly. Otherwise, the phone is snappy: browsing the internet, switching between apps, messaging, etc.
But whenever I install an app, no matter what size, during the download of the app and during the installation phase the phone can barely function. Every other phone I had would be just find (Sony Xperia x compact with less ram and an inferior processor, definitely my galaxy $7, moto z play, etc.). It's like those phones would dedicate 1 core to the app download/installation and the other 3 or 5 would be for all other phone functions.
Do I just have a randomly borked v20? It would seem weird to me that the ohine would function fine in every other circumstamce though....
It's as if the v20 is using all the power of its SD 820 to install an app as fast as possible. I also noticed that my Play Games app that shows all the games I've ever installed runs like molasses. Maybe that is what's screwing things up. After 3 restarts the installations seem to be working a little bit better.
Are you charging while doing this? Maybe you're hitting the thermal limit
This happened to me after I upgraded my H918 from 'I' to 'J'. After I factory reset it hasn't done it.
Was not charging while doing it. Didn't factory reset yet. I MIGHT have found the culprit and that was an icon pack called shadow something that was eating up cycles like crazy and draining the battery. Since uninstalling yesterday, phone has had great battery (8 hour screen time) and no sluggishness when installing multiple apps.

Moto x force lags

Hello,
I have a stock Moto X force for about 20 months.
I've been suffering from lagging lately (sometimes it takes a few seconds when trying to switch between apps or the keyboard becomes unresponsive). I think it got worse after the 7.0 update.
I've downloaded an app for system monitoring and I've noticed that at times of lag the internal disk activity is maxed (Read & Write are 100% (not sure exactly what that means)) (Can't add attachments). But, cpu performance and ram usage seems fine. I assume some app is causing this but have no suspects at the moment. How should I continue my debug from here ?
Thanks
Hello Juvesss,
Exactly the same phone with the same problem since one week ago... If you solved it please explain me, this is a pain!
No OS upgrade was involved in my case, I have Nougat since a long ago.
Cache wipe did not help. Limiting background processes to 3 helped just a little (developer menu).
juvesss said:
Hello,
I have a stock Moto X force for about 20 months.
I've been suffering from lagging lately (sometimes it takes a few seconds when trying to switch between apps or the keyboard becomes unresponsive). I think it got worse after the 7.0 update.
I've downloaded an app for system monitoring and I've noticed that at times of lag the internal disk activity is maxed (Read & Write are 100% (not sure exactly what that means)) (Can't add attachments). But, cpu performance and ram usage seems fine. I assume some app is causing this but have no suspects at the moment. How should I continue my debug from here ?
Thanks
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I've been noticing this problem too.
Not sure what the cause is.
I've factory reset and that seems to fix the problem for awhile, but it seems to come back over time.
Something in the stock rom must be cluttering the phone.
Dear roweboat56,
It happened to me after 12 months of having it, so for my experience it is not so frequent. How often happened it to you? (To understand better how long will I "enjoy" the factory reset solution...)
Move to a custom rom!
I faced that issue too! The last update was buggy maybe..and the moto services and rest apps by moto are eating a lot of ram and using a good amount of I/O
.
Try this rom by me (on the latest 7.1.2 build with 5th February 2018 security patch)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/general/lineageos-14-1-build-7-1-2-heating-t3757565
Change battery profile to power save, and see the magic
No heating at all!
oniscidea said:
Dear roweboat56,
It happened to me after 12 months of having it, so for my experience it is not so frequent. How often happened it to you? (To understand better how long will I "enjoy" the factory reset solution...)
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Hm I noticed after maybe 2 months of use or so?
Im on Latest Stock FW Android N ,using the device since 8months and not find any lag, in my case it lacks a bit when heated a lot.
I didnt disable any of the Moto Services though.
Try using Greenify if it solves the issue. I will not unlock my phone till it gets 14-15month old and see whether the same happens to me
It is strange... In my case the phenomenon suddenly disappeared some weeks ago, so I think some system update messed it all and later another update solved it. I have the impression it was a system problem and not a particular app, because I tried to uninstall the more suspicious apps without appreciating any change.

Smart doctor-conserve memory setting missing

Hello
After i updated to oreo i did a factory reset then i installed all my apps .I wanted to use the conserve memory in smart doctor (smart doctor->tap memory->tap three dots->conserve memory).This saved a lot of ram and battery.What can i do?
Oreo does already a preaty good job managing the memory. No need for that setting (even in Nougat there is no real reason).
You can use greenify for that, or even Servicely - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.servicely
DJPRMF said:
Oreo does already a preaty good job managing the memory. No need for that setting (even in Nougat there is no real reason).
You can use greenify for that, or even Servicely - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.servicely
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Idk why but It got significantly slower since the update.The big problem is that is slower in the ui.Before the update hearthstone was lagging a lot but now everything with this phone is lagging.I honestly don't know what to do.Maybe the phone is faulty?
Check you backgroud apps... Maybe is one there that is using more resources.
Interesting... as far as I know on Nougat, disabling some crucial system apps (or even using adb to uninstall them without root) was causing this option to disappear. Yesterday I started disabling some bloatware on my Oreo H870 and I was like "hey, does this option already disappeared?" and yes... it was gone... so I proceed to disable more stuff
But you say that it's gone anyway... As DJPRMF mentioned - Oreo does really good job with memory management. You can also disable background activity for some apps so it's better than on Nougat in my opinion.
romcio47 said:
Interesting... as far as I know on Nougat, disabling some crucial system apps (or even using adb to uninstall them without root) was causing this option to disappear. Yesterday I started disabling some bloatware on my Oreo H870 and I was like "hey, does this option already disappeared?" and yes... it was gone... so I proceed to disable more stuff
But you say that it's gone anyway... As DJPRMF mentioned - Oreo does really good job with memory management. You can also disable background activity for some apps so it's better than on Nougat in my opinion.
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Idk but i think that is something wrong with my unit.I mean after the update and factory reset i started to witness freezing and stuttering and not in games because i even deleted them (hearthstone is just so laggy on my phone idk why) my phone froze in the home screen and in youtube. When i checked to see if there is a misbehaving app in the battery usage setting there was nothing everything was normal. I honestly don't know what to do.I can't send it on warranty right now because i need the phone. Any advice?
ThE J0K3r said:
Idk but i think that is something wrong with my unit.I mean after the update and factory reset i started to witness freezing and stuttering and not in games because i even deleted them (hearthstone is just so laggy on my phone idk why) my phone froze in the home screen and in youtube. When i checked to see if there is a misbehaving app in the battery usage setting there was nothing everything was normal. I honestly don't know what to do.I can't send it on warranty right now because i need the phone. Any advice?
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It's really hard to tell what's the real cause. I also have problems on Oreo but they're not that annoying (practically only related to battery life but NOT standby time which is perfect now). About the stuttering - I also can't say anything, I have absolutely no games installed on my phone.
Try enabling Developer Options (tapping build number 7 times on About Phone) and there is an option to see running services / active services (idk how it's named in English) which is old-style Android task "manager" where you can see RAM usage for currently running and cached-in-memory apps. Maybe you'll find something there?
romcio47 said:
It's really hard to tell what's the real cause. I also have problems on Oreo but they're not that annoying (practically only related to battery life but NOT standby time which is perfect now). About the stuttering - I also can't say anything, I have absolutely no games installed on my phone.
Try enabling Developer Options (tapping build number 7 times on About Phone) and there is an option to see running services / active services (idk how it's named in English) which is old-style Android task "manager" where you can see RAM usage for currently running and cached-in-memory apps. Maybe you'll find something there?
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I looked in that setting but all was normal.I just saw the apps like google and twitter,facebook and mostly things i know i use. The thing is that when i was scrolling to see the list of apps there the scrolling motion was just so laggy. I forgot to mention the battery life that dropped from 5-6 hours sot to barely 4 hours and it's not that i have stopped using it. Idk why this phone is behaving like this.I don't even have it for a full year(just 7 months).I honestly don't know what to do.I have a friend who owns a honor 7 lite and it runs hearthstone perfectly my g6 just lags in it.

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