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Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance
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Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance
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Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.
joshua said:
Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Are you suggesting that there can be gained some kind of profit from me(other that transporting expenses to the couriers)? No that's not the case if that is what you are implying; my guarantee makes all repair costs free.
So how would they gain from me?
I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?
Bingoig11 said:
I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?
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probably yes, if its bought for less than a week.
skillz9669 said:
Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.
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probably yes, if its bought for less than a week.
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You wont get one though..You'll get a new wheel
It doesn't even make sense to me that someone would expect a new car if the wheel failed..Even if it was a mile from the lot you bought it from.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.
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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.
"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!
I feel for you dude.... You buy a brand new device expecting it to work, not having to send it back and forth to fix a problem on a brand new product.
But things happen and personally I don't mind getting it fixed if it's guaranteed. At least it's still the one you bought and not a refurbished unit from someone else.
Of course you have the right to be angry. Anyone would after all that you've described.
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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.
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I sent it to Samsung. Samsung has a company here in Greece that fixes them. They send it there for repairs. Now they saw the condition my phone was in, and they made a poor diagnosis(In my view it was a hasty/irresponsible diagnosis in order to get rid of me) that it was a faulty battery. They didn't even bother to check my phone if it was ok after they "fixed" it as it turns out.
Now with Samsung that's the problem, they delegate and compartmentalize their company as much as it is required to shift responsibility and make you feel lost and frustrated.
I hate that kind of shadowy situation they have built around themselves so they won't have to admit "yes we don't give a **** about the consumer, we just want to sell", and that's why i decided to not take from them anymore.
+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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skillz9669 said:
"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!
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The employee of the eshop called them today and was firm on replacing the device, the problem is that they were firm themselves about NOT replacing it.
What can i do against a big company like them?
If they decide i don't get another phone what the hell can i do?
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+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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I bought it from a small electronics online shop here in Greece. They buy the phones from Germany and the guarantee is linked to the German Market. If all else fails i have to take my case there.
But they employee tells me that it's the company's policy(as well as many others besides Apple) that they don't replace devices, end of story.
So again, even though my guarantee is solid, the COMPANY is NOT.
So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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Nobody has made any talk about extra charges, that is covered by the guarantee.
If that was the case i might be convinced to move legally against them.
Its simple, cost of part and installing cheaper then replacement of whole phone then replace part. Logic no?
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This is not a Samsung specific issue all phone manufactures work like this. Next replacing the motherboard is more or less getting a new phone as the phone is roughly motherboard + screen and very little else.
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It might be different in other countries but i work for Ford in the uk and know alittle about the way guarantees and warranty work my note is on contract with 02 and to date i have had 3 new notes from 02 two because i scratched them and just said there was problems with the software on them. Also you have a 28 day no quibble returns policy in the u.k with electronic things. Also if ya good at blagging you can get anything of big companys i upgraded to a nexus in january and the software went into bootloop before i even had time to root it so i kicked off and this happened twice so ended up kicking off and telling them i wanted a note otherwise i was going to trading standards cos they werent fit for purpose and guess what i got a brand new note 3 months after an upgrade. I was always told shy kids get no sweets so try ya luck
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Interesting this .I myself have just taken in my note 3 ( I brought direct from Samsung) which is completely dead into a Samsung approved repair centre. They told me the phone needs to be sent away for a motherboard replacement which will take between 7-10 days. I am a little putout as to the time without my Note but I suppose at least I'll get it back fully functional.
Now last year I took my wife's Iphone into one of there Genius centres with a problem (dead phone again) and guess what we were given a nice new shiny replacement there and then.
They do say you only know how good a manufacture is when you need them most !
Think Samsung may need to up there game.
You pay top dollar or a phone it should come with top dollar service
I would like to say first that I absolutely LOVE my Nexus 7 tablet. Having owned a couple of different Android tablets made by those other people (Samsung...even an iPad Mini), I can honestly say the N7 really is the best. With that being said, I would like to share my experience with them today, and I hope it helps others in being more informed about their decision to purchase in the future. Its kind of a long read, but you will be shocked at the end, so please see it through.
A week or so ago my tablet developed an issue where after waking it from standby I would have to toggle Airplane Mode on and off in order to access the internet. I was off work today so I called Google warranty about the issue. The gentleman I spoke with was very kind and, I believe, as helpful in the situation as he could be. After explaining the issue and running through some standard trouble shooting, the first technician I spoke with from Google concluded it was most likely a hardware issue and that someone from a different department (mind you, I was speaking to the warranty department already) would contact me via email in 24-48 hours.
After I hung up from him, I thought about it and something wasn't quite right. The warranty department should be able to generate a replacement or at the minimum an RMA right then, right? So I called back and asked to speak with a manager. I was transferred to a floor supervisor, explained everything that had transpired up until then, to which he promised to get to the bottom of the issue right then. He asked for my email address, which I provided, when he stated he could not find an order for a Nexus tablet. I proceeded to explain to him I purchased it from GameStop, I had the receipt with the box and date of purchase, when he abruptly cut me off to tell me he could not do anything about my warranty issue because it was bought from a third party. He explained I would have to go through the retailer or through Asus. Now, here is where my trouble with this begins. Is this not manufactured for, branded, and advertised as a GOOGLE Nexus 7 tablet...or is it brand, advertised, and sold as an Asus Nexus 7 tablet. Yes, I understand who actually manufactured it. But that is transparent. There are A LOT of products made by other manufacturers that are sold under a different brand name. In fact, there are actually quite few true "manufactures" in the world but they make and sell products daily under a different name. However, this floor supervisor was unwilling to provide me with any assistance at all. He did offer to connect me to Asus customer support.
Another hold later, and 20 something minutes into the call, I was connected to another very nice customer service rep from Asus. I again (third time) explained the issue and the steps already performed to remedy the situation. After speaking with him for a while, he agreed to issue an RMA so that one of there technicians could diagnose the problem and do a repair or replace. I asked at his point how long this process takes...TWO WEEKS. Mind you, I have only owned the tablet a total of exactly 7 weeks and 2 days. I told him that this was completely unacceptable. He then offered to upgrade my case to priority service. Again I asked for a time frame and was told this time...1-1/2 WEEKS, or 3 days faster. At this point I am furious. I asked if I could have a replacement sent out...NO. I asked if I could have one sent out with a hold on my credit card until my defective unit was received...NO. I asked if I could have a refund arranged...NO. I asked if he would be kind enough to contact GameStop to request an exchange be made...NO. MY ONLY OPTION ON A 7 WEEK OLD TABLET...A GOOGLE TABLET MIND YOU...WAS TO BE WITHOUT FOR 2 WEEKS! You have go to be kidding me! I sincerely thought Google was better than this.
I used the following analogy...you buy a brand new car. It has a warranty issue that needs fixed so you take it to the dealership at which point they say, "sorry but we cant fix it for 2 weeks" and leave you with no car. I honestly can not believe the customer service between these two companies is this poor. As well, I have had cell phones replaced by AT&T under warranty that CERTAINLY were not made by AT&T, yet Google does not share the same mindset although the tablet was clearly a Google product.
So, I write this as a warning for any of you that have purchased your tablet from GameStop, Best Buy, Staples, ect. what challenges you face should you ever need warranty service. And to those who did purchase off the Play Store exactly how Google is treating their customers. I love Google (a lot less now) but I will NEVER buy another Nexus/Google branded product again...not so much as rent a movie or buy a song from the play store. And I will take to any forum I can access to share my experience in an attempt to convince Google/Asus to improve their customer service. They have lost a customer and I implore you to share my experience with as many people as you can that may be considering a Google product or service in the future.
Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
sigaiser said:
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
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For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
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Thanks for the link...I posted there as well. It is cruddy. I would
D have expected more from Google in a situation like this.
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You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
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I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
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Buying direct from Google won't help. When I had to have my Nexus phone replaced, under warranty, I called Google since I bought it on the play store. They gave me a number to Samsung(It was a Galaxy Nexus) and Samsung did exactly the same thing. I had to go to Wal-mart and buy a cheap flip phone to use for 2 weeks while Samsung replaced my 2 month old phone which I had bought from the Google Play Store.
It is definitely nice to go to an apple store and have a replacement in 10 minutes if you have a bad phone... I had an issue with my galaxy s4 and at&t didnt have any in stock to replace it with.... Bad experience.
I actually feel nothing is wrong with the warranty service options the OP mentioned.
It would be above average for the industry.
If I bought a premium car like Lexus then I would expect a nice loaner if my car needs works.
But if I paid for a Toyota, then it's up to the dealer ... a shuttle ride is nice enough.
I even bought my 2012N7 over ebay, haha. Worst case, I just call Asus.
Unless Google promises something and doesn't deliver ... otherwise, it's up to them (that's why I normally
talk nicely to the customer-service people).
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I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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But, I'm only good at smartass comments.
i had my nexus 4 RMA due to faulty screen and i had the most wonderful experience, the lady i spoke to gave me no trouble what so ever promptly sent me an email with the order replacement link, put the hold on my card and 2 days later brand new N4 at my door, i would actually prefer to order directly from them after that experience
Also had a good experience with the nexus 4, screen was super dim, Google sent me a new one and have me a shipping label to send my old one in the same box
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One of the reasons why I always buy from companies with excellent customer service.
Few examples..
Bought a Galaxy Nexus from Amazon and after 6months+ it developed a fault.. cant remember what it was. So me being me... its been 6months+ I contact Samsung because its been so long. They told me they can get it fixed within a week. I get it back and its worse then when i sent it. I tried again.. sent it, came back and still as bad. I contact samsung again and explain to them. They said they will contact me within a few days.
While waiting i thought what the heck... Contacted Amazon and explained Samsung has wasted my time and if possible would like a refund. They said ok right away and got my money back! Samsung contact me and I vented out to the manager/supervisor on the line and all he could say was thats great that you got a refund....
Bought a Nexus 4 direct from Google.. Again after 6months+ it starts over heating. Contact google and they said we can replace it for you no problem. They sent out a new one while i still had the faulty one.
I would pay more for a product just to have great customer service then to get it a little cheaper and have next to no customer service.
So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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@ sigaiser
I understand your frustration. I have an old Nexus 7, which I bought in the UK from PC World. It developed a fault where it would not charge. PC World referred me to ASUS, who ran through various ideas to fix it (most of which I had tried after internet forum searches), gave me a code and an RMA, and told me 7 to 10 days. It was picked up by the courier for next day delivery to Triage Services, who do ASUS repairs in the UK. After 4 weeks, it came back and still had exactly the same fault. (Later, I found that Triage had replaced the motherboard.) SO after another couple of days of trying to sort it out again, I rang again and got another RMA and an email telling me to book it in. I was also told that I should have been told "up to 30 days" not 7 to 10. The courier web site this time told me I'd have to pay for the return (different courier first time) though subsequently ASUS complaints told me that that was a courier error. Away it went again, and came back with the battery re-seated. It did not charge up, so off it went again. After another couple of weeks, making a total of 8 1/2 weeks, it came back with a new wall charger - supposedly that was no longer charging (even though when it left, it happily charged my Nexus 4). I HAD told them it was not that, as 3 different chargers would not charge The Nexus 7. It lasted that day, then refused to charge fully overnight, and charging to a lower % each night. All ASUS would offer was another RMA. :crying:
In the end, I threw myself on the mercy of the team at PC World, and asked if there was anything they could do - perhaps a discount on a different tablet. They had a chat, and gave me a new Nexus 7, this time with their "Whatever Happens" replacement insurance. Result. In future I think I will be getting my stuff from them with that guarantee.:laugh:
The current Nexus 7 charges up MUCH faster than the first one ever did, so either something had been changed, or the first was always faulty.
ASUS had been helpful, but they required THREE parts of the tablet replaced before they'd replace the whole thing. I had only had one so even though I'd lost it for more than 2 months out of the 12 month guarantee they would not consider either a replacement, or even extending the warranty for the 2 months I had been without.
Triage services, on the other hand, who supposedly did the repairs, I have no time for. First time round, they booked the tablet in to their workshop 5 days after they got it (thus showing ASUS that they were working on it faster than the truth). Then clearly they never actually tried it any of the three times before returning it.
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So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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No, I'm not mad I have to send it back to the manufacturer. I'm mad because that is the ONLY option to send it back. Google told me on the phone if I bought it direct from them, they would send out a replacement right then and there. So what's the difference? GameStop is an authorized retailer. It's not like it was a black market knock off from Amazon. And as far as Asus goes (who is the manufacturer yet not a reseller), they offer no way to have a replacement sent, even with a credit card hold. So the ONLY option is to go without and wait 2 weeks, or whatever the turnaround time ends up being, without the product you paid for. That's what makes me mad.
And maybe I'm missing something, but what I can't get over is the fact that it's made for Google and sold by Google, yet Google is not supporting products sold by third party retailers although it carries their name.
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I really don't see a 1-1.5 week wait as being that big of a deal, sure it would be nice to get it replaced with a new one but they do not have to offer that to you. The warranty doesn't say that they offer replacements at the first sign of an issue. Since you bought it from a 3rd party retailer I wouldn't expect Google to take care of it since it is an ASUS tablet. If you'd purchased it from the Play Store and they wouldn't help then that would be a problem.
They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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Lol, whatever. Easy to hide behind a screen name. You wouldn't say it to my face so why say it online?
Either way, moderators, just close this thread. Obviously no one has the intelligence to understand the point I was attempting to make so it does no one any good for it to remain open as its only going to turn ugly.
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My Moto X pure's charging pins broke on my phone. Literally $440 down the drain, and there's nothing to do but buy another one, but what the hell do I do with this thing? my warranty is voided because I unlocked my bootloader (Thanks Motorola, thanks.) and every year there is a new problem with a smartphone I buy. I literally buy a phone every year because something stupid happens to the ones I buy. My Find 7a? Screen cracked, and there is literally no such thing as a how to guide to replace the screen. My Mate 2? 100% garbage phone that I sold to my friend, which was stolen from him. The only thing I have left is this garbage iPhone 5 that is more of a burden that it is a benefit. I've been contemplating to just say screw it and buy an iPhone 6/6s, but I would rather use a Nokia n900 than to touch one of those normie devices. I've been thinking of buying one of those Meizu phones but support and root instructions for those things is nearly impossible to find. Right now I am super pissed off and I need my phone to continue with my work. I cant even swap sd cards to my iPhone 5 because its a CDMA abortion model and wont work with my metro PCS sim. I have literally little to no money right now, and there isn't a phone out there that can compete with this thing. Samsung? Garbage. Huawei? Shady. HTC? dead on arrival. Apple? Next. If there is anything I can do I would greatly appreciate the options.
First, make sure the charging problems is because of the phone, not the cord or the power supply. If it is the phone here's some ideas:
-Try the warranty. Even though the bootloader's unlocked, being that it's a hardware problem, they might still fix it. Doesn't hurt to try
-If you can't use the warranty, pay to get it fixed
-If you're buying a new phone but don't have money, some companies allow you to pay over some time, like 6 months
-Huawei isn't shady
-Sell the phone. Someone may buy it to repair it. But you'll be losing by doing this and not getting it repaired yourself, as I doubt it'll sell for much.
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First, make sure the charging problems is because of the phone, not the cord or the power supply. If it is the phone here's some ideas:
-Try the warranty. Even though the bootloader's unlocked, being that it's a hardware problem, they might still fix it. Doesn't hurt to try
-If you can't use the warranty, pay to get it fixed
-If you're buying a new phone but don't have money, some companies allow you to pay over some time, like 6 months
-Huawei isn't shady
-Sell the phone. Someone may buy it to repair it. But you'll be losing by doing this and not getting it repaired yourself, as I doubt it'll sell for much.
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-Currently I am at the Repair & Return page on the Motorola site, and they are asking for $111 for a repair. There is no mention of the warranty, other than the "My Device" site where it stated my warranty wont end until October 2016.
-I believe those companies are carrier companies. Carrier locked, bloated devices that aren't factory unlocked.
-Huawei did some dodgy things when it came to the Mate 2 getting its Lollipop update, and same with the mate 7. Currently the HAM 2 is still a burden to use.
I am planning to sell the phone for a good 300, along with the find 7 for a 300/250 price tag. With that money I could get a whole new phone, probably the Meizu Pro 5 or Mate 8, but, of course, there is Abosolutely no support for the Pro 5, and the Mate 8 is like $800. Probably might get the Oppo R7 Plus, its the holy grail of Phablets imo.
EDIT: How much do you think the X Pure would sell for in its current state? Nothing else (Literally nothing) is wrong with the phone, its on Marshmallow and its rooted.
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-Currently I am at the Repair & Return page on the Motorola site, and they are asking for $111 for a repair. There is no mention of the warranty, other than the "My Device" site where it stated my warranty wont end until October 2016.
-I believe those companies are carrier companies. Carrier locked, bloated devices that aren't factory unlocked.
-Huawei did some dodgy things when it came to the Mate 2 getting its Lollipop update, and same with the mate 7. Currently the HAM 2 is still a burden to use.
I am planning to sell the phone for a good 300, along with the find 7 for a 300/250 price tag. With that money I could get a whole new phone, probably the Meizu Pro 5 or Mate 8, but, of course, there is Abosolutely no support for the Pro 5, and the Mate 8 is like $800. Probably might get the Oppo R7 Plus, its the holy grail of Phablets imo.
EDIT: How much do you think the X Pure would sell for in its current state? Nothing else (Literally nothing) is wrong with the phone, its on Marshmallow and its rooted.
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The repair and return page might be talking about damage where your at fault, like a broken screen. Contact Motorola and tell them your problem. Don't mention that it's unlocked. The most you'll lose is the money spent on postage if they don't fix it because of the bootloader.
Some large retailers allow you to pay over 6 months for any purchases over a certain amount. You'll need to check what there is in your country.
I'm not sure how much it'll sell for, but keep in mind, some people aren't gonna pay too much for a phone which they can only assume that the seller is trustworthy and there's no other problems
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The repair and return page might be talking about damage where your at fault, like a broken screen. Contact Motorola and tell them your problem. Don't mention that it's unlocked. The most you'll lose is the money spent on postage if they don't fix it because of the bootloader.
Some large retailers allow you to pay over 6 months for any purchases over a certain amount. You'll need to check what there is in your country.
I'm not sure how much it'll sell for, but keep in mind, some people aren't gonna pay too much for a phone which they can only assume that the seller is trustworthy and there's no other problems
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Wont Motorola instantly send the phone back to me once they realize it is factory unlocked?
And Retailers meaning Sony, Huawei, etc? I live in the US, could you tell me some retailers that have that option available?
And I was thinking on selling the phone to one of my friends, not online or anything like that.
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Wont Motorola instantly send the phone back to me once they realize it is factory unlocked?
And Retailers meaning Sony, Huawei, etc? I live in the US, could you tell me some retailers that have that option available?
And I was thinking on selling the phone to one of my friends, not online or anything like that.
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If it's clearly a hardware problem, they MIGHT fix it. Can't say for sure, but there's a chance.
I don't live in America, but this is what we have in Australia https://www.kogan.com/au/interest-free/ . Good Guys also do it for some items.
I'm sure there must be some stores in America that do it.
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I purchased a Nexus 6P through Best Buy (US) during May of last year and just recently have encountered a problem with the volume up button being stuck and the power button not locking the phone. These weren't caused by dropping the phone or any specific occurrence like that as far as I can remember. My screen has also been cracked for a while, but that was a separate issue. I called Huawei to check if the button issue is covered by the warranty and they said to fill out a ticket and send pictures and they would let me know. The problem is that I also have a one year warranty through Best Buy, but it would have a service charge attached and I wouldn't be getting a 6P; they would send me a gift card instead. I'd rather have the 6P repaired or replaced than have to buy a different phone through Best Buy, but if it takes too long for Huawei to assess whether or not the phone is under warranty, then the warranty for both will expire and I won't have either. Does anyone have any advice regarding this situation or experience with what Huawei will cover under their warranty?
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I purchased a Nexus 6P through Best Buy (US) during May of last year and just recently have encountered a problem with the volume up button being stuck and the power button not locking the phone. These weren't caused by dropping the phone or any specific occurrence like that as far as I can remember. My screen has also been cracked for a while, but that was a separate issue. I called Huawei to check if the button issue is covered by the warranty and they said to fill out a ticket and send pictures and they would let me know. The problem is that I also have a one year warranty through Best Buy, but it would have a service charge attached and I wouldn't be getting a 6P; they would send me a gift card instead. I'd rather have the 6P repaired or replaced than have to buy a different phone through Best Buy, but if it takes too long for Huawei to assess whether or not the phone is under warranty, then the warranty for both will expire and I won't have either. Does anyone have any advice regarding this situation or experience with what Huawei will cover under their warranty?
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Personally I'd go the Best Buy route and get a different phone.
I had a bootloop of death - Google turned me down because I was out of warranty, I was transferred to Huawei, who said I was also out of warranty with them as well. They offered a "repair/replace" service for $164.00 since this has been a known and problematic issue. They told me I would have the phone in 10 business days - for which it would be repaired or, they would just send me a new one to replace it. I just got the device today; its brand news. Battery is good capacity, so far no bugs - we will see though. All and all - if you end up getting the repair/replace option and you can afford to pay the extra cash for a phone you already spent a bunch of extra cash on.... it was worth it.
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I purchased a Nexus 6P through Best Buy (US) during May of last year and just recently have encountered a problem with the volume up button being stuck and the power button not locking the phone. These weren't caused by dropping the phone or any specific occurrence like that as far as I can remember. My screen has also been cracked for a while, but that was a separate issue. I called Huawei to check if the button issue is covered by the warranty and they said to fill out a ticket and send pictures and they would let me know. The problem is that I also have a one year warranty through Best Buy, but it would have a service charge attached and I wouldn't be getting a 6P; they would send me a gift card instead. I'd rather have the 6P repaired or replaced than have to buy a different phone through Best Buy, but if it takes too long for Huawei to assess whether or not the phone is under warranty, then the warranty for both will expire and I won't have either. Does anyone have any advice regarding this situation or experience with what Huawei will cover under their warranty?
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Hello,
I don't really want to read all the page, so I'll leave it to you: http://consumer.huawei.com/us/support/warranty-policy/mobile-phone/index.htm
Considering your N6P is almost one year old and all the problems surrounding​ the device at the moment:
Bootloop of death
Defective batteries
I'm not sure if it's worth it. It could last forever, but also fail next month when your warranty will be over...
If you don't loose much between the "service charge" and the Best Buy gift card, I would go that route and start looking for a new device. But that's just me...
Good luck...
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I had a bootloop of death - Google turned me down because I was out of warranty, I was transferred to Huawei, who said I was also out of warranty with them as well. They offered a "repair/replace" service for $164.00 since this has been a known and problematic issue. They told me I would have the phone in 10 business days - for which it would be repaired or, they would just send me a new one to replace it. I just got the device today; its brand news. Battery is good capacity, so far no bugs - we will see though. All and all - if you end up getting the repair/replace option and you can afford to pay the extra cash for a phone you already spent a bunch of extra cash on.... it was worth it.
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Hello,
I would have kept trying and call Google/Huawei. A lot of people got it repaired/replaced even though their warranty ended...
Cheers...
I agree, to keep hammering them for a replacement is the right move. One thing to keep in mind is many of the recent reports about interactions with Huawai have indicated they seem to be trending towards playing hardball. Sooner than later would be my advice on working them for a replacement.
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I did hammer google for a couple weeks to no avail - now that I have charged the new Nexus 6p from Huawei I have am pleased to report the replacement device they sent me is as good as it was when it was brand new. The device has zero battery degradation, and hasn't had a battery shutdown problem at all even though I was trying to trigger it through going on a walk in the cold this morning while suddenly using the camera. Other than the headache of losing a few pictures and spend $164 that I shouldn't have had to spend in the first place for a hardware malfunction...... I am very pleased to be rocking a solid Nexus 6p
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I agree, to keep hammering them for a replacement is the right move. One thing to keep in mind is many of the recent reports about interactions with Huawai have indicated they seem to be trending towards playing hardball. Sooner than later would be my advice on working them for a replacement.
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Huawei was nothing but quick and efficient with my order. They didn't grant me an out of warranty replacement, but they did get me a new device within a week of their shop receiving it. Also, for posterity, they sent me a Huawei brand pen. HAHAHA. That kinda added insult to injury - just the same - I wouldn't believe all the complaints about Huawei's lack of costumer service - they were quick in all my interactions with them.
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I did hammer google for a couple weeks to no avail - now that I have charged the new Nexus 6p from Huawei I have am pleased to report the replacement device they sent me is as good as it was when it was brand new. The device has zero battery degradation, and hasn't had a battery shutdown problem at all even though I was trying to trigger it through going on a walk in the cold this morning while suddenly using the camera. Other than the headache of losing a few pictures and spend $164 that I shouldn't have had to spend in the first place for a hardware malfunction...... I am very pleased to be rocking a solid Nexus 6p
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Huawei was nothing but quick and efficient with my order. They didn't grant me an out of warranty replacement, but they did get me a new device within a week of their shop receiving it. Also, for posterity, they sent me a Huawei brand pen. HAHAHA. That kinda added insult to injury - just the same - I wouldn't believe all the complaints about Huawei's lack of costumer service - they were quick in all my interactions with them.
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Hey,
They were just "quick" to ask you some money and nothing else... For something you shouldn't have had to pay for. That's all I see here.
Did you get someone/something telling you it won't ever happen again? Or did they/it also said: goodbye, see you next year? Since they didn't acknowledge the issue, no one knows if they ship crappy batteries/motherboards/phones or if they manufactured new batteries/motherboards/phones which is unlikely.
And this is supposed to be a good customer service? Damn it...
May I ask you what is your build date in bootloader > barcodes? Just so you know what to expect? Also we can have an idea...
Thanks...
I had bought the Nexus 6P from a friend. No receipt or anything. Since my phone bootloop like everyone else , I decided to go into the main boot screen and chose " barcode ". in that screen , it will show seriel # , IMEI # , model # and build date of the phone, which was 03/04/2016. Knowing that the phone was produced back in march , I know that the warranty can't be expired. I decided to call Huawei. The warranty did not expired yet. I was lucky to call in and inquire about getting it repaired.
So if you bought a phone , and not sure of the warranty , go into the recovery screen , toggle through the menu ( recovery, bootloader , start , barcode )and choose barcode to see the detail of the phone and check the production date.
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I had bought the Nexus 6P from a friend. No receipt or anything. Since my phone bootloop like everyone else , I decided to go into the main boot screen and chose " barcode ". in that screen , it will show seriel # , IMEI # , model # and build date of the phone, which was 03/04/2016. Knowing that the phone was produced back in march , I know that the warranty can't be expired. I decided to call Huawei. The warranty did not expired yet. I was lucky to call in and inquire about getting it repaired.
So if you bought a phone , and not sure of the warranty , go into the recovery screen , toggle through the menu ( recovery, bootloader , start , barcode )and choose barcode to see the detail of the phone and check the production date.
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Hello,
Actually it's the bootloader, not the recovery screen... :good:
You can also go on Huawei site and enter your IMEI. It will give you the warranty's period.
Also, you are lucky. Depending on who answer the call at Huawei, they refuse to repair/replace the phone without the receipt.
Cheers...
Sorry for hijacking the thread but I'm suffering from the early shut down and have contacted Huawei who have confirmed the phone is still in warranty until end of this year and have created an RMA.
However they've sent me the envelope to post the phone back but state you need to return with the a copy of the receipt which I don't have as I purchased it from eBay. It was originally purchased from CPW and was unlocked! Can someone please confirm if Huawei accept warranty returns without the receipt?
Note... I'm in the UK and the phone was purchased from CPW in the UK.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread but I'm suffering from the early shut down and have contacted Huawei who have confirmed the phone is still in warranty until end of this year and have created an RMA.
However they've sent me the envelope to post the phone back but state you need to return with the a copy of the receipt which I don't have as I purchased it from eBay. It was originally purchased from CPW and was unlocked! Can someone please confirm if Huawei accept warranty returns without the receipt?
Note... I'm in the UK and the phone was purchased from CPW in the UK.
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Hey,
It seems like it depends who you talk to at Huawei. Some have been asked for a copy of the receipt, some others haven't. Will they repair it if you send it without the receipt though they have asked for one..?
Not sure, as so much people must have sent them N6P lately due to bad batteries and bootloop... I think they are actually trying to find anything they can to refuse the repair for those who are not original owners. At least people who don't own the receipt.
Hoping I'm wrong and you'll get your phone back, up and running..!
Good luck...
My 6p shut down at approx 40% twice last week (on Dirty Unicorn) and according to Huawei, I only have 1 more month of warranty left. I just sent in the pictures, imei and s/n and now they'll send me a label. I plan on flashing the August factory image and locking the bootloader before sending it in, of course.
so...how long will I be without a phone? I don't have a backup.
i have nexus 6p bootloop and iy is in waranty how i can replace it
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I had a bootloop of death - Google turned me down because I was out of warranty, I was transferred to Huawei, who said I was also out of warranty with them as well. They offered a "repair/replace" service for $164.00 since this has been a known and problematic issue. They told me I would have the phone in 10 business days - for which it would be repaired or, they would just send me a new one to replace it. I just got the device today; its brand news. Battery is good capacity, so far no bugs - we will see though. All and all - if you end up getting the repair/replace option and you can afford to pay the extra cash for a phone you already spent a bunch of extra cash on.... it was worth it.
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i have nexus 6p bootloop and iy is in waranty how i can replace it
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i have nexus 6p bootloop and iy is in waranty how i can replace it
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Have you tried speaking to Google or Huawei about it? Thats really the first and only step. Like I said before I mine was OUT of warranty so I just paid the money for Hauwei to fix or replace the device. Call them! They will ask you questions and take you through the whole process.
Well, it's happened on Monday. Was using my phone and bloop....screen goes off and that's the last time it worked. Gradually got to the stage where it wouldnt even loop but my 5x is dead. RIP.
So, being out of warranty and all I sent an email to LG to see how much it would cost to repair. Reply came back with a series of questions but no "reply to" address. That's one way of hiding from the problem I suppose. For a company to try and avoid their responsibilities for a screamingly obvious hardware flaw is way out of order. At least Samsung had the guts to put their hands up.
Sharing this as part of the grieveing process in a way for the old Nexus devices. Had a 4, a 7 and then a 5x. The Pixels came out but when I saw their price tags and the setups it just reeked of apple (excuse the bad swearing language). Very sad really for someone who rarely went a whole week without the simple process of changing rom or setup or kernel but that was the beauty of the Nexus ethos.
Since Monday evening I have been the owner of a Moto G5 Plus. Only charged it three times since getting it. Ads are part blocked in stock, it's nippy and am moving on with my life post nexus. Trouble is it's still on 7.0 but not a big issue for me.
Anyway, thanks guys and gals for the good times. LEarnt a lot about android, poor customer service and build quality from LG and made some good friends (and enemies) on here.
Keep happy
My 5X also died from last Sunday.... I sent my phone to authorized service (Procordia in Greece). I'm waiting now when the phone will be fixed (changing motherboard).
So I know you already moved on to the G5 plus, but you should see about getting it repaired. Then you could always keep on hand as a .spare device. Mine bootlooped (a second time) well out of warranty but I filled out the RMA request on LG's website (didn't talk to anyone, just like I did the first time) and they fixed it a second time for free. I don't recall how long they did it for, but they extended the warranty
edit: should point out I'm in the US and it might not go as well in other countries
My nexus died on me yesterday, still have 3 days left in warranty. Filed 2 reports to LG to request a repair and have had no email or anything, its as if my request has vanished. This is utterly ridicolous as I need a phone and I'm currently without one and can't afford anything worth buying. Will have to resort to using my Nokia 1600. Shame on LG for being like this
You should try contacting LG via phone and that might work better. The 5X warranty has been extended to 18 months on a case by case basis since this is a hardware problem. If they won't fix it, all you did was spend time on the call, but if you are eligible to have it fixed, you'd have a spare phone.
These bootloops are getting more and more common as our phone ages. Mine froze and shut down randomly and bricked while using it a few months back. Thankfully I bought mine here in the UK from Carphone Warehouse where I sent it for repairs, got the motherboard replaced, and fixed in one week, for free with the 2-year warranty. It sucks that LG aren't willing to help you guys though.
Mine died on me earlier this year. Luckily I had some backup phones. Using my old 2013 Nexus 5 currently. I can get life from my phone here and then but it freezes and shuts down during the boot animation. I bought mine from someone off craigslist so I doubt I'd have any luck getting it fixed by Google or LG. Too bad parts are hard to come by or I would try and buy a new motherboard and replace it myself. I really do miss using the 5X though. Just got to hold off until the end of the year for the next Pixel.
My Nexus 5X also bootlooped itself to death yesterday. I purchased it January 2016 when my Nexus 5 decided to kill itself. Unfortunately I also bought a 5X for my girlfriend at the same time which I'm expecting to go anytime now. I'm currently using my Samsung Galaxy S II that I bought at launch and is still alive 6 years later. Sucks because the only new phone that looks good to me right now is the LG G6, but I don't trust LG anymore so I don't know what to replace it with. Galaxy S 8 is purdy but I don't want to deal with burn in (like on my GS2). Essential also looks nice but doesn't have a headphone jack so that's out. Might have to go Sony with it's gigantic bezels. :-\
Update: Getting a refurbished replacement from Google. Hopefully by the time this one dies there will be some more appealing replacement options.
My second 5X died few days ago. Good phone bad quality
Mine died today. Warranty expired last October but they are sending me a refurb replacement. I've had it since November 2015 and even Bought it off swappa so I feel fortunate in one way but a phone should last a lot longer than that.
Tulsadiver said:
Mine died today. Warranty expired last October but they are sending me a refurb replacement. I've had it since November 2015 and even Bought it off swappa so I feel fortunate in one way but a phone should last a lot longer than that.
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Who did you go through? Google or LG? I bought mine from someone off Craigslist but haven't tried asking for a replacement since I've never had any type of warranty. Did you have to show any kind of receipt of buying it or anything or did they just simply say "Ok" and send you a refurbished one? Also, did you call them or email them?
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Who did you go through? Google or LG? I bought mine from someone off Craigslist but haven't tried asking for a replacement since I've never had any type of warranty. Did you have to show any kind of receipt of buying it or anything or did they just simply say "Ok" and send you a refurbished one? Also, did you call them or email them?
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I went through Google. All they did was ask for and run the lME number. I did not expect anything to come of it but I thought it was worth a try. I chatted online.
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I went through Google. All they did was ask for and run the lME number. I did not expect anything to come of it but I thought it was worth a try. I chatted online.
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Well I just might do the same. If you bought it from a third party and it died yesterday and your already getting a refurbished one, I think I may have a shot. Good to know. Thanks
Well. Some progress here too.
Decided to give LG a go but as I bought it over ebay they wouldnt entertain any warranty work but gave me their out of warranty people called SBE here in the UK.
Contacted SBE and without any commitment on their behalf the fella said that they would look at it and if its not showing signs of damage and water etc then it should be covered as they have permission to replace faulty motherboards with only postage costs.
So am packing the phone off to them and see what happens. Anybody else experienced this route? Would be worth getting it fixed just to sell the damn thing afterwards.
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Well I just might do the same. If you bought it from a third party and it died yesterday and your already getting a refurbished one, I think I may have a shot. Good to know. Thanks
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Sure,
the verbage is a bit intimidating saying that they are putting full price for refurbished on hold on your account to see if it is covered by warranty but what they want to do is make sure you didn't run over it or drop it from a ten story building.
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Sure,
the verbage is a bit intimidating saying that they are putting full price for refurbished on hold on your account to see if it is covered by warranty but what they want to do is make sure you didn't run over it or drop it from a ten story building.
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So you have to send the broken phone to them I assume?
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So you have to send the broken phone to them I assume?
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Yes, and then when they receive it and see it's not physically damaged (water, smashed screen) they refund you back the price of the phone. I didn't have to pay shipping either way.
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Yes, and then when they receive it and see it's not physically damaged (water, smashed screen) they refund you back the price of the phone. I didn't have to pay shipping either way.
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It's kind of funny they would even hold onto the price of the phone seeing as the device isn't under warranty and it would be no loss to them. I mean, what would be the scenario where they would actually charge you the amount of the phone?
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It's kind of funny they would even hold onto the price of the phone seeing as the device isn't under warranty and it would be no loss to them. I mean, what would be the scenario where they would actually charge you the amount of the phone?
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They send you the phone right away and give you 21 days to get the bad phone back to them. The hold is to make sure they get an undamaged phone returned to them.
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They send you the phone right away and give you 21 days to get the bad phone back to them. The hold is to make sure they get an undamaged phone returned to them.
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Ah, ok. Well that makes sense then. I thought they would send it to you after they analyzed the damaged one.