Okay guys, I tried to come up with an idea for Android and I finally came up with one and I'd like to ask what you think of it before I publish to the public. So, I've had a lot of files on my computer in a folder called "Copy later" and I haven't had the time to sit down, connect my phone, and wait for it to sync all the files. I also am aware of many different apps which sync through WiFi but if I travel to places, I don't have the time to wait for it to copy. So, I decided to come up with a solution...Basically, you would turn on your computer, run this super lightweight app which takes your files in a specific folder (or a system folder like "My Documents of My Music") and send it to a remote server. Now, the remote server would wait for your phone to be available (like connected to the internet and to the server) and it will negotiate a connection with it. Once the connection has been built, the remote server will start transferring the files to the phone. When the files have been processed to the phone, the server will delete its "Temp container" and will wait for the computer to tell it to copy more files.
Now, people will also want to backup the contents of their phone and sync up their files. The same process also applies for the phone's data but slightly more efficient. Essentially, you can setup (optionally) some "zones" at which you can sync the corresponding data. For example, when you are at work, you can sync up your contacts and your "Work" folder. When you're at home, it can sync up your music files and maybe your Facebook updates. This is great because it takes in your GPS location and you can set a radius so that if you are within that radius, you can be syncing up some specific folder(s) with your computer. Also, in the event you lose your phone, you would still have the last synced files. This makes your syncing much more efficient.
If you like this idea, I have already started working on it so please tell me if you want to be a beta for it. Right now, it's invite only so post in this thread if you want me to send you a link. I personally think it is useful for me because switching from school to home, to friends' house, it is handy to sync only the stuff I change. Also, Im looking for a name for this app (still haven't thought of one). A good name will get a prize....
UPDATES
-Removed the middle server - Direct pc to android connection
-Encrypted transfers
-Connects through port 4000 so if you have port forwarding done for this, you can connect from anywhere in the world!
-Sends the data encrypted now
Alpha Program 1:
-This simply transfers data from pc to android and establishes a secure connection.
Alpha program 2:
-After long hours of work, I finally got it to transfer the data safely through the web.
-It doesn't send ANY data without encypting it first and this took a while to make but it finally does conversion without much lag.
-Basically, you choose an mp3 from your computer and send it over. Once it completes, it will play on device. Check out the quality...its equal to that on the computer...
Sign me up for the beta.
I don't quite understand.
What files would you be syncing?
How is this different than using DropBox, where I already have 2GB of space?
Who controls this 'remote server'?
dropbox is different because the files "stay" in the server, but in this the server is only a middle means for data transport. The files are deleted from server once the sync is performed. You can sync whatever you want, like music/videos/data/whatever other folder you choose.
Also, dropbox is basically a "file storage"/backup solution. This just transfers the files from desktop to device and back.
Alright. I have begun work on this project. Firstly, I have now eliminated the idea of needing a 3rd party remote server. Now, it will connect directly to the phone using wifi networks and direct tcp/ip protocol. However, the difference is that data will be transfered in ssl. This way, it will be very secure.
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... I have now eliminated the idea of needing a 3rd party remote server. Now, it will connect directly to the phone using wifi networks and direct tcp/ip protocol. However, the difference is that data will be transfered in ssl. This way, it will be very secure.
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My interest is piqued now I'm liking this alot! Would come in very handy.
im down for this!
Okay. Firstly, I would like to get a beta out today. This beta will simply send a file to and from your device and tell you if it was successful. There is a windows app and an android app which runs on your phone. Both are light but the point is to encrypt/decrypt the data sent.
I Like The Idea.... Also, If Your Open To Suggestions, I Think A Few Useful Features Would Be:
If You Had A Optional Folder On Both Your Sdcard, And Also Your Desktop, That Can Be Set To AutoMatically Send From Either End (Sdcard Or Desktop) Or Even Send To Email, Or Wherever Else When Files Are Dropped Into Either Optional Folder!!
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Ok so you're saying it should automatically sync whenever things have been updated right? I think that would be easy enough. Problem now is that the computer has to stay on when you want to sync. Is that okay?
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Ok so you're saying it should automatically sync whenever things have been updated right? I think that would be easy enough. Problem now is that the computer has to stay on when you want to sync. Is that okay?
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Yes That Would Be Ok, But....
What Do You Think Of A Feature (If Possible?) That Can Detect If Its First Destination (Computer) Is Off, & If So More Or Less Have A Secondary Destination, (Email) Maybe?
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Thats great. When it does a handshake, if it fails, it can resort to a secondary target....email? Isn't that too small of a space to store large files?
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dropbox is different because the files "stay" in the server, but in this the server is only a middle means for data transport. The files are deleted from server once the sync is performed. You can sync whatever you want, like music/videos/data/whatever other folder you choose.
Also, dropbox is basically a "file storage"/backup solution. This just transfers the files from desktop to device and back.
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I think you're trying to compete with dropbox by offering a service that doesn't require users to trust dropbox's security. I've looked at what they say about security here:
dropbox.com/help/27 (sorry, forum doesn't let me post actual links)
Reading that makes me feel safe about storing my files there. Then again, if I had data that would put millions of dollars or lives in risk if it got in the wrong hands, I'd want more security.
If you want a successful product, I think you should target it to this latter crowd -- users who take the security of their data very seriously.
right. Which is why i decided to eliminate the idea of needing a middle server.
Great idea. I was ( just like many others) have been looking for way to sync files over the net with no server in between.
It would be even better if the app in the Phone would auto detect any file chnage and sync with the computer.
Gud luk and let me know u need another tester.
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ok. an aplha has been posted and this is merely a test to see if my method of transfer works. Please try it and reply here if it works properly. It seriously takes only 60 seconds to test it out.
This app looks great! If you need some servers for temp. file storage hit me up via PM.
Keep up the great work
Thanks, but I think I am going to not do the temp file storage thing, as some people are concerned with the security of it. Anyway, I may however make a web based login thing where you can access the files in the computer remotely. This web client will act as if it were mimicking a device. Also, how did the app go? Did the transfer work?
Wow...this actually works...
vision
Great then. I will now make one which transfers a sound file (mp3 of your choice), transfers it, then plays it on the phone.
-Another alpha may come out tomorrow or tonight....
The answer to my own question is Sharepoint apparently. I just found out about it. My mistake.
Original question:
I bought a data usb cable for my Focus hoping to set up a way to transfer files from my Windows 7 computer to the phone. I mostly want to put Office files on my cell phone, not videos or music. Business use. So Zune isn't what I need.
I can't get the computer to recognize the phone for file transfer. I tried both the Win7 Synch and the Win Mobile Device Center software.
The computer does know that the phone is hooked up and is ID'd as the Focus.
Is this not possible to do on the Focus?
Thanks.
Alan
Try using Skydrive (it's available via your Hotmail/Live/MSN account). I have everything synced via Skydrive and it works great. There's another solution, Homepipe, which I haven't yet tried. There's also a registry hack you can do on your Windows PC that will allow you to drag and drop files (again, not something I've tried, yet, because Skydrive works well for my needs).
Hope that helps.
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Try using Skydrive (it's available via your Hotmail/Live/MSN account). I have everything synced via Skydrive and it works great. There's another solution, Homepipe, which I haven't yet tried. There's also a registry hack you can do on your Windows PC that will allow you to drag and drop files (again, not something I've tried, yet, because Skydrive works well for my needs).
Hope that helps.
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How do you sync with Skydrive? Aside from using the browser and downloading the file? Is there a way to actually set up a sync aside from just OneNote?
something that i was searching for a while now and i think might be useful for others too
Sweet Home WiFi
wht it does:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/auto-upload-sync-android-camera-photos-and-videos-to-computer/
little info from that site:
"Users who frequently use their Android device’s camera, transferring or backing up photos and videos to a computer becomes a regular hassle that they would rather avoid. Sweet Home! for Android (2.1 and higher) is a handy application that automatically connects to a user-specified Wi-Fi network when it is in range and starts uploading pictures and videos taken using the camera to the network drive, media center, or home computer. Suppose every time you return home with new photos or videos in your Android phone, this app will start uploading them to a shared directory as soon as it is connected to your local Wi-Fi network."
P.S.:
this is not made by me... i just found this info and shared it as i thought it might be useful to others... any apps as alternatives that u guys have tried?
I have to try this out after trip uploads his latest masterpiece. I don't know how many times I have forgot to backup drunking pictures of the mates. Plus I'm on my 3rd sd card, the others just stopped working.
I will give feedback later
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My phone explorer is also good....
this software had been developed for SE phones for many years now and is an excellent alternative to pc companion.
You can get it to connect to your home network via wifi and automatically sync contacts, messages, photos etc....
I have been using this for a couple of days on android now....seems very good.
EDIT: This is also very good to use a multi mount option on the SD card. It lets you browse the internal (If rooted) and external memories of the phone whilst still having the SD card mounted on the phone....
the whole point is that i dont want to manually connect my phone/sdcard everytime... want it to sync over home wifi... i dont want to use dropbox its unnecessary waste of internet bandwidth from phone to dropbox server then back from dropbox server to my desktop....
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FANTASTIC! love this app. Had to use ip address and drop workgroup name. Uploading 176 photos now. I always forget to dump the phone when I do my regular digital camera. Shame it doesn't create folders by date or upload into some date parameter named folder.
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Are there any apps that do the same, but to for example dropbox over the mobile internet instead of Wifi?
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Are there any apps that do the same, but to for example dropbox over the mobile internet instead of Wifi?
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you can configure Titanium Media Sync; lets you backup to the cloud or your own servers via FTP, SFTP,FTPS. It also supports dropbox too.
hi all,
for a while i am looking for a way to automatically sync files between my tablet (on dock) and my windows XP sp3 pc over usb. Looking for a trick to sync over the contents of one specified folder (includng subfolders) on connecting and on changes to the files, very much like windows sync or dropbox but then usb.
reason for usb is that i dont want docs in the cloud, nor can the pc and the tablet be on the same wifi (pc on lan). For some other reason, BT doesnt work either (although paired, no connection can be established). USB should be possible though, at least i thought.
I am aware of the MTP issue, which makes it hard just to use regular sync programs. I found only one windows program that reads mtp stations: pure sync. But that doenst really work, messes up everything this far by making additional copies of the files, trashing others, looping in syncs etc.
Here are some other things i tried and noticed:
- docs to go offers syncing for the full version, however thats one way and doesnt work automatically.
feedback from the guys of docs to go:
Unfortunately, Lenovo tablets are not supported on XP machines. On XP, Lenovo devices fail to provide file/directory names and modification dates for some reason.
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- the way it is demonstrated at the lenovo website does not work, probably only does so when connecting to a lenovo laptop. No lenovo utility showing up and cant find a download.
support.lenovo.com/en_NZ/guides-and-manuals/detail.page?DocID=UM014085
(sorry, newbe so no outside links allowed)
- last thing i am tryin but struggling to get working is the app and desktop companion myphoneexplorer (fjsoft.at/en/) I cant get a connection although according to the app my tablet is properly connecter over usb.
- connecting and transferring each file via explorer is a burden. No bookmarks or shortcuts are possible, one has to look for the sub sub sub sub folder every time after reconnection and transferring is not easy as well, often not allowing copy past or accesssing the folder within applications that do not use the windows explorer (e.g. Total commander, sync apps)
- i have read a trick somewhere to connect the tablet using the PTP setting, whereby the DCIM folder is displayed. You allegedly could transfer files (also other than pics) to this folder and after disconnecting you would be able to read them out. But tht didnt work for me, plus the folders were not always accessible nor could i ad a shortcut or bookmark/favourite etc.
Anyone any thoughts on this? would be much appreciated.
additional info; running android 4.03
let me know if you need additional info.
tnx
Hello xda community.
Today i've realized that i'm not able to transfer music files via S Beam(i'm able to transfer files like pictures and videos), i thought that S Beam was supposed to transfer any files. Is this a bug? If it is, is there anyway to solve this problem? or are music files just unsupported on GS4? This is very weird cuz my friend's galaxy s3 can transfer me music files via s beam, but i'm not able to do that with my GS4
Thanks you in advance.