Any comments from a Moto X pure user to this? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Like the title states, I have a friend thats interested in my current phone, a Moto X pure. Of course, if he buys it, thats less I have to fork out for a N6P. My question though...is it still worth it to move to this device with a new phone possibly due in 6 months? Its $399 at Best Buy right now, so I'd be buying this phone for roughly $200 and then a new case. Thoughts?

Tough call and personal choice. The new Nexus could be around $700?
Your $200 is nice for the Nexus6p and XDA well developed roms , mods, etc.

galaxys said:
Tough call and personal choice. The new Nexus could be around $700?
Your $200 is nice for the Nexus6p and XDA well developed roms , mods, etc.
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Yes not sure on it...I'm sure its a better phone, but worth it now....and would i see any real difference besides the fingerprint scanner. I've seen some comparison camera shots and it seems moto's is better, but that was like 8 months ago lol

6p camera kills the Moto. Don't know what sites you were visiting, but it's not even close...

galaxys said:
Tough call and personal choice. The new Nexus could be around $700?
Your $200 is nice for the Nexus6p and XDA well developed roms , mods, etc.
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Just curious, but why would the new Nexus cost $700? Is that the rumor?

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Just curious, but why would the new Nexus cost $700? Is that the rumor?
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Isn't that what the current one costs? Usually new doesn't go down in price.

No matter how you cut it, the new Nexus is going to cost more. I think the best plan of attack would be to sell the X, and purchase a used 6p off of Swappa. It shouldn't cost too much that way, and the 6p will still be worth more when the new Nexus is released, so it won't cost a huge amount to upgrade then as well.
As far as making the switch from the X to the 6p, I highly suggest it. I made the same move, and am glad I did. I was concerned about not having an SD slot in the Nexus, but the 64gb model works fine for me, and battery life is superior to the Moto.

I would make the move to the 6P for that price. Honestly, I don't trust Lenovo now that they have taken over Motorola. I don't know if they will stay update the moto x pure to android N at a good pace or not? I had the moto x pure for a few weeks last october and overall it was a nice phone. good screen and awesome speakers but i didn't see alot of development for it so i made the move to the 6P. Now if regarding what the new nexus will cost in the fall who knows but this year a 32GB started at $499 which was a great price. the year before it was like 700 with motorola. if HTC is to make this years nexus who knows how much it will cost? if anything, I hope the pricing that was introduced last year will be same but we shall see

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Isn't that what the current one costs? Usually new doesn't go down in price.
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No, I believe the 6P started at $499.

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Do you recommend the N4 now?

Hi,
due to the recent price drop I really think about buying one.
My GF needs a new phone and I want to give her one this christmas. But she may get an "old" IPhone 4 from her parents.
So I thought maybe I buy the N4 now and use it myself till then. If she gets the IPhone 4 then I'll just keep it myself.
I wonder if that is a good idea. I'm still on NexusOne to the day and actually would not need a new phone unless it breaks down.
I mean if there will actually be a cheaper IPhone version, that would probably strengthen competition and we might see cheaper Android phones that don't suck.
If Google just sells out its N4 stock I and I'm not buying now I might miss a great chance for a cheap but great phone, right?
Would you buy now in this case?
What are the problems of the N4? I mean besides the unchangeable batterie and non-extendable memory?
DarsVaeda said:
Hi,
due to the recent price drop I really think about buying one.
My GF needs a new phone and I want to give her one this christmas. But she may get an "old" IPhone 4 from her parents.
So I thought maybe I buy the N4 now and use it myself till then. If she gets the IPhone 4 then I'll just keep it myself.
I wonder if that is a good idea. I'm still on NexusOne to the day and actually would not need a new phone unless it breaks down.
I mean if there will actually be a cheaper IPhone version, that would probably strengthen competition and we might see cheaper Android phones that don't suck.
If Google just sells out its N4 stock I and I'm not buying now I might miss a great chance for a cheap but great phone, right?
Would you buy now in this case?
What are the problems of the N4? I mean besides the unchangeable batterie and non-extendable memory?
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Mate, you missed the party Just wait for the N5. Allthough if you want a good phone for a very very low price this is the one to buy.
At $250 for 16gb? Yeah, jump on it. If it comes to it you can always resell it for $150-175 when N5 comes out.
You won't get the thrill if you get it now. Rather wait for the new one.
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Thanks, to be clear: this is not for people who want the top notch phone and pay dozens of dollars for it. I opened this thread for people that want to get a good phone at a reasonable price. And due to the recent events might consider the N4 now
If you dont want to wait for a possible nexus 5/2013 nexus 4 then yes I would recommend getting it. This phone is amazing and even more so now with the price cut. You're getting a good phone spec wise off contract for the price of any other on contract priced phone. IMO that's a great deal. I've had mine for about five months now and still love it. One of the best phones I've ever used.
The price cut make it really attractive, even if it is a bit old in today's standard.
Seriously, it is an unbeatable price/performance device at the moment.
Since we don't know exactly when the next Nexus will be announced and we also don't know what will be it's pricing, the Nexus 4 is very tempting. This device is so stable, reliable and Smooth.
The only part that is not very good is the camera, it's ok when you know how to use it properly, but it could be better. But, why would I complain for a device that is sold at 199$ when all others are sold at 500$+
YES !
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Depends on how much after tax, I would just wait for next one at this point.
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And it has slimport/qi charging too
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I suggest getting it now, Because the prices are now a LOT CHEAPER!

Would you still buy the N4 today?

Hi, i'm an Atrix owner, and my dad's phone just died, so i thought that i could buy a new phone for me and give my atrix to him. It will have more than he can use anyway.
So, i'm trying to go with the best for under $300 (unlocked). I suffered the Motorola's lack of updates with my Milestone and this Atrix, so i want a futureproof device (balanced with the price). So my first thought of course is the Nexus. If it gets 5.0 i'll be happy for another year i guess.
But i don't know what's in the market right now, so maybe i'm missing another good device for the price, or maybe the Nexus 4 is not as good as it looks. So that's why i'm asking what the title says.
Would you still buy the Nexus 4?
Thank you.
nlabrad said:
Hi, i'm an Atrix owner, and my dad's phone just died, so i thought that i could buy a new phone for me and give my atrix to him. It will have more than he can use anyway.
So, i'm trying to go with the best for under $300 (unlocked). I suffered the Motorola's lack of updates with my Milestone and this Atrix, so i want a futureproof device (balanced with the price). So my first thought of course is the Nexus. If it gets 5.0 i'll be happy for another year i guess.
But i don't know what's in the market right now, so maybe i'm missing another good device for the price, or maybe the Nexus 4 is not as good as it looks. So that's why i'm asking what the title says.
Would you still buy the Nexus 4?
Thank you.
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I gave my old lady my old Atrix and grabbed the Nexus.
Now I'm trying to talk her in to getting one.
The price now @ $249 to performance ratio can't be beat considering you own the phone out right, no contract crap.
Get updates on day 1 release, it will get 5.0
The camera is decent enough I find...after all it's a phone.
If you don't care about the lack of a SD card and a non removable battery. Then it's def worth it
After the Atrix you'd be very happy with it.
I'd get a case for it the as it's an extremely slippery phone though.
If you're on a budget and looking for unlocked and properly priced, then yes, it's perfect. You don't get 4G LTE out of the box, and you only get it with fixes and always changing the settings back. If not having 4G LTE is fine, then yes, it's your best bet. MetroPCS and Boost are selling the SIII for $400 still. You still get a year warranty of course when you buy it from Google.
Only if I didn't already own one. Why?
1. Price/performance ratio is insane
2. Dev support is lively
3. LTE on Tmobile
4. No contract
5. Storage fits my music collection
6. Dat back
so seems buying n4 still worth it if you just want to use it for a decent purpose only, am I right ? I'm not a type of person who loves to rooted or change kernel to phone.
I did 3 days ago and its flying
I got mine the other day. Coming from a GS3, I am more then happy with the N4. Will I get an N5 when it comes up, most likely but depending on the price maybe not as soon as it is released.
My wife picked up a HTC One. Spec wise and quality build that is on the HTC One is top of the line right now but I would not take one over the N4. There is just something special about a Nexus device and it runs fantastic.
Looking at this thread i am going to say a big YES http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nex...y-google-play-store-1642317?page=104#comments
Yep. Just bought another N4 (to replace a stolen N4) and it has been a good idea
Its the best. No doubt about it. Just go for it. I'd buy it again if I have to. Best performance with such specs at this price. Just brilliant.
I did. Am selling my Xperia Z for profit, and got an Nexus 4 for £159. Much prefer the look, feel and performance over the Sony. Love it.
For some stupid reason, it still costs Rs. 24,990 ($ 379) in india (flipkart.com). Were it not for this silly pricing, i would have bought it a long time back.
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Yes, I would for sure.
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I would but just because of the value. For $200-$300 you get a great unlocked phone. It isn't the best phone but it definitely is for the price range. It definitely does have it quirks though. For one I hate the fact that I am limited to 16gb of storage as there is no SD Card slot. Google however has great cloud based apps so you really don't need 64gb. For me, I have 30+ GB of music and its all on the cloud with Google play. Even when your offline you still have access you your music though because the app very conveniently caches songs periodically to keep some stored locally (I have about 2gb local). The screen is not full 1080p which is becoming the norm now and not to forget the phone has horrible color calibration, which can be fixes with a custom kernel. The phones battery life also isn't the greatest... As a pretty heavy user I probably would have to charge it at least once throughout the day. The camera also is pretty crappy and so is the speaker.
Bottom line. The phone is definitely worth every cent but it does have its issue. There are plenty of phones better than it but they're all $600+ phones. So yes even today, I would say to Stoll get it for the value
I definently would,
given there has just been a price drop of 100$ on both versions!
Now there is really no way to beat the price.
Take the 8 gb version for example and look at other models in the same price range.
You see things like the Samsung Young, which really are no match at all for the Nexus 4!
Try and name 1 device for under 400$ that is better, I think you will have a hard time.
And now the Nexus is only half of that!
I just ordered mine last week when the price dropped. I have been using the Galaxy Nexus for the last year and will likely never purchase another non-Nexus device ever again.
For me, it was all about value. As others have mentioned - it is pretty hard to beat the current 199/249 price point that these are available at right now. I had originally planned on holding off until the N5 was released but simply couldn't pass up this deal.
Now just anxiously waiting for it to arrive!
I just did - a few days ago. I was never happier. :cyclops:
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I definently would,
given there has just been a price drop of 100$ on both versions!
Now there is really no way to beat the price.
Take the 8 gb version for example and look at other models in the same price range.
You see things like the Samsung Young, which really are no match at all for the Nexus 4!
Try and name 1 device for under 400$ that is better, I think you will have a hard time.
And now the Nexus is only half of that!
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hell yes. And here in Europe is not just a 100$ drop, its a 100€. Finally the 1€-1$ thing is on our side
I would die to the damn price.
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i would go as far as to say that I even would not be able to recommend any other phone after the price dropped last week

Sell the note 5 and get a moto pure.

Hi.
I have an unrootable note 5 from att and I cannot stand it.
Should I buy the moto? Are you guys happy with it? Or should I get the giant nexus.
The note 5 is a beast but it all depends if you like the stock feel or lagwiz
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do you buy just for root ?
if you want custom roms and all dont go for moto x
Aftab_khatri said:
do you buy just for root ?
if you want custom roms and all dont go for moto x
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According to this post, 8 CUSTOM ROMs so far on Marshmallow (plus more if you include Lollipop) means no custom ROMs available for this phone...
Good job with that logic.
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Aftab_khatri said:
do you buy just for root ?
if you want custom roms and all dont go for moto x
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Running stock rooted here, it's rock solid
-Moto X Pure-
borisb said:
Hi.
I have an unrootable note 5 from att and I cannot stand it.
Should I buy the moto? Are you guys happy with it? Or should I get the giant nexus.
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Coming from a Verizon Note 5 I do not miss or regret switching to the Moto at all. The only thing that is better is the camera and that's not by much at all. Having a unlocked bootloader, root and some great custom ROMs to play with is well worth the switch. It runs sweet on stock Marshmallow too.
The note series are the best phones money can by specs wise I owed each one up till Note 4 but with the loss of the MicroSD on N5ote and inability to root (Verizon edition), I sold my Note 4 and moved to Moto X. As someone else had shared, the only thing I miss is the better camera quality.
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Coming from a Verizon Note 5 I do not miss or regret switching to the Moto at all. The only thing that is better is the camera and that's not by much at all. Having a unlocked bootloader, root and some great custom ROMs to play with is well worth the switch. It runs sweet on stock Marshmallow too.
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Thank you.
Just bought mine. Goodbye Samsung .
borisb said:
Thank you.
Just bought mine. Goodbye Samsung .
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Good choice, I've tried a bunch of phones this year and decided the Mxpe is the best overall phone available. That could change soon with the new phones coming but for the price and ability to unlock and customize with Roms and xposed mods it don't think it can be beat, even by the nexii.
Give us a reply after you spend some time with it. I'm running truepurex 2.6 ROM with xposed, gravity box, minminguard ad blocker, and YouTube adaway. GPS high accuracy, Google location history on and paired with pebble watch and get great performance and battery life.
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redeyss said:
Good choice, I've tried a bunch of phones this year and decided the Mxpe is the best overall phone available. That could change soon with the new phones coming but for the price and ability to unlock and customize with Roms and xposed mods it don't think it can be beat, even by the nexii.
Give us a reply after you spend some time with it. I'm running truepurex 2.6 ROM with xposed, gravity box, minminguard ad blocker, and YouTube adaway. GPS high accuracy, Google location history on and paired with pebble watch and get great performance and battery life.
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Thanks.
I got mine for 375 in Amazon. Great price and I can't wait till I root.
Misterxtc said:
Coming from a Verizon Note 5 I do not miss or regret switching to the Moto at all. The only thing that is better is the camera and that's not by much at all. Having a unlocked bootloader, root and some great custom ROMs to play with is well worth the switch. It runs sweet on stock Marshmallow too.
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Did you consider the LG v10. Especially when it's the same size, CPU and can be picked up for $500 on eBay.
borisb said:
Did you consider the LG v10. Especially when it's the same size, CPU and can be picked up for $500 on eBay.
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As a matter of fact I did and just returned a V10 yesterday. The only better thing from my point of view is the removable battery and camera witch it isn't by much. I was going to purchase one through Verizon on their payment plan that would have cost about $10.00 a month but decided against it. I didn't want to be into Verizon for the payment plan plus no root, unlocked bootloader or Marshmallow really did it in for me. I know how Verizon and LG are slow with phone updates. Plus I really don't care for the 2nd screen. I know it can be turned off but I would lose the on screen notifications when the phone is idle. Other than that the V10 is a great phone and very well built. It definitely takes some great pictures but the Pure is up there too.
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As a matter of fact I did and just returned a V10 yesterday. The only better thing from my point of view is the removable battery and camera witch it isn't by much. I was going to purchase one through Verizon on their payment plan that would have cost about $10.00 a month but decided against it. I didn't want to be into Verizon for the payment plan plus no root, unlocked bootloader or Marshmallow really did it in for me. I know how Verizon and LG are slow with phone updates. Plus I really don't care for the 2nd screen. I know it can be turned off but I would lose the on screen notifications when the phone is idle. Other than that the V10 is a great phone and very well built. It definitely takes some great pictures but the Pure is up there too.
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Do you think it's worth getting for 500? If I'm gonna get it (and return the pure) I'm gonna get the tmo version and root the hell out of it. No warranty though for the LG while my moto can be shattered 100 thousand times
borisb said:
Do you think it's worth getting for 500? If I'm gonna get it (and return the pure) I'm gonna get the tmo version and root the hell out of it. No warranty though for the LG while my moto can be shattered 100 thousand times
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$500.00 seems like a good price and being T-Mobile you can do whatever you want with it. Honestly if I could have a unlocked bootloader and root I would have kept it but I have to stick with Verizon because they treat me good. I did settle for a G4 for a bit over $200.00 to play with.
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$500.00 seems like a good price and being T-Mobile you can do whatever you want with it. Honestly if I could have a unlocked bootloader and root I would have kept it but I have to stick with Verizon because they treat me good. I did settle for a G4 for a bit over $200.00 to play with.
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Thanks for the advice.
Thinking about it I think I will pass.
Snapdragon 808 does not really need 4gb or RAM.
And I don't really wabt to buy anything from eBay.
Plus I should save some money and wait for the next gen that is going to be out by the end if this year.
borisb said:
Thanks for the advice.
Thinking about it I think I will pass.
Snapdragon 808 does not really need 4gb or RAM.
And I don't really wabt to buy anything from eBay.
Plus I should save some money and wait for the next gen that is going to be out by the end if this year.
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No problem. I think you made a better choice to wait and see what comes out next. That's partly why I picked up a cheap G4 for a 2nd phone to mess with.
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No problem. I think you made a better choice to wait and see what comes out next. That's partly why I picked up a cheap G4 for a 2nd phone to mess with.
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I just realized.
The Nexus 6p is the same price as LG v10. And I did. It get that one since I got the Moto for 375 on Amazon.
Damn you buyers remours. Damn you my sweet capitalist way of life.
But in general. I love the Moto. Much better then the note and much faster (believe it or not).
The display and camera are the best but Samsung (being Samsung) screwed the OS and user experience completely.
Hopefully I can make a quick buck on the note 5.
borisb said:
But in general. I love the Moto. Much better then the note and much faster (believe it or not).
The display and camera are the best but Samsung (being Samsung) screwed the OS and user experience completely.
Hopefully I can make a quick buck on the note 5.
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I had a 6P too lol. I returned it because the build quality stinks. It's way too flimsy. There is a thread in the 6P section with peoples phones easily bending, not cool.
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I had a 6P too lol. I returned it because the build quality stinks. It's way too flimsy. There is a thread in the 6P section with peoples phones easily bending, not cool.
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Nexus 6p 71% s2b ratio. Moto 76%. Enough said.

[Discussion] [Poll] PIXEL PRICE

At USD $649 for a 5" Google Pixel phone compared with nexus 5x price of USD $379
what are your thoughts on pricing, (POLL on top)
Here's the hardware compared:
Article by xda, talking about Pixel price.
http://http://www.xda-developers.com/renouncing-the-nexus-legacy-priced-the-pixel-into-a-battle-it-may-not-win/
How about an option "too high, but eff it, I bought one anyway"?
doitright said:
How about an option "too high, but eff it, I bought one anyway"?
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maybe the last option ?
128 GB Flash and a 5 inch screen. This is what i'm looking for, a long time now.
Hopefully the Pixel phones also have an unlockable bootloader like all the Nexus phones have - otherwise it's a no-go.
See my thread:
Just bought a Nexus 5X 32 GB for 245 € instead of Pixel 759€
unrealmac said:
See my thread:
Just bought a Nexus 5X 32 GB for 245 € instead of Pixel 759€
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Thats a good price but these 2 phones are technicaly not compareble.
gee2012 said:
Thats a good price but these 2 phones are technicaly not compareble.
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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I completely agree with you. I will not get one of these 2 devices either because of the price and its not a huge upgrade from the 6P imo.
The RAM is the main advantage to me.... (2GB for 64-bit android is an error, even the N5 2013 has less redraws. N5X should have had 3GB! )
On the other hand, the battery life (seems to have much better autonomy) and the AMOLED panel is another advantage.
But I bought the 5X at 300€ in Amazon (6 months after the release date). So I'll wait to see this Pixel at 500€ before buy it.
Much prefer LCD to AMOLED.
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Much prefer LCD to AMOLED.
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seems like technology is moving towards amoled, the last of big brands that used lcd is apple
The camera sensors are NOT the same. They're just the same in terms of megapixels, which most photographers know isn't everything. Pixel should win in that category as well.
I'm having a real tough time deciding on what to do.... Buy a Pixel for 750 with protection plan, (no way in hell I'm financing at 29 .9% APR, friggin criminals), or buy an HTC 10, which is comparable to the Pixel, plus it has an SDCard and it's 550 bucks right now.....
Way overpriced - just like Apple's iPhone 7. Very dissapointed.
The pricing on these is out of touch with reality. Maybe its a part of the same pricing model they did on the Nexus 6 where all the fanboys and people who just dont know better pay full price, then 2 months later, its selling for $349.
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I think these western phone manufacturers just prices them out of the market when chinese cheap and same spec phones are getting into the hands of masses. When people are getting poorer and poorer they just dont have money to purchase 750$ phones.
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At USD $649 for a 5" Google Pixel phone compared with nexus 5x price of USD $349
what are your thoughts on pricing, (POLL on top)
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Wow that definitely does look quite shocking for the new pixel though you are forgetting some of the new features of the Pixel!
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unrealmac said:
technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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The non-metal part of the back is there so that the antennas behind it will actually pick up RF. Doesn't make sense for a cell phone to not be able to get cell service!
Daydream is a gimmick and will ALWAYS be a gimmick.
The way forward for hardware, is always going to be better (smaller/faster/more capable) hardware.
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gee2012 said:
I completely agree with you. I will not get one of these 2 devices either because of the price and its not a huge upgrade from the 6P imo.
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The 6P is a bit of an oddball unit, not really necessary, since it is a downgrade from the 6 before it (face it, 64bit doesn't provide any benefit to the workloads you get on a PHONE), and a very highly optimized and cool running 32bit chip can run circles around a run of the mill bone stock A57 reference toaster element.
Now the new kryo cores... those are optimized cool running 64bit chips in the same way as the 32bit krait450. Certainly not enough to be worth spending a pile of money on to replace a Nexus 6, but if you're in need of a phone, it is definitely the best and would be the best choice.
I'm hanging on to my Nexus 6, but I'm getting the pixel 5/128 for the wife, whose Nexus 5 is starting to flake out.
I think that one of the problems that people have is in understanding when to buy a phone and when not to. There are NO "revolutionary" new things to be had, the changes are incremental. So don't do stupid things like continually replacing your phone with whatever the "newest" one is, since there won't be a significant difference. But when you *need* a new phone, then pick the best nexus/pixel and buy it.
boy they missed the boat on this one. Pricing is outrageous. I'm not an iphone user . but As much as it looks like it wants to be, its not an iphone. Your average joe isn't going to buy this at this price. They'll say, google pixel, eh never heard of it, i'm not dropping $900 on a phone i've never heard of. But they will drop $900 on an iphone because it has created a brand that people know and trust. This is a major fail in pricing. At this price it should have EVERYTHING out there, it doesn't even have wireless charging, no expandable memory, no removalable battery, and isnt' even water proof. It'd be a HARD sell to get a normal person to fork out 100-125 more for this over a S7 or similar. FAIL
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boy they missed the boat on this one. Pricing is outrageous. I'm not an iphone user . but As much as it looks like it wants to be, its not an iphone. Your average joe isn't going to buy this at this price. They'll say, google pixel, eh never heard of it, i'm not dropping $900 on a phone i've never heard of. But they will drop $900 on an iphone because it has created a brand that people know and trust. This is a major fail in pricing. At this price it should have EVERYTHING out there, it doesn't even have wireless charging, no expandable memory, no removalable battery, and isnt' even water proof. It'd be a HARD sell to get a normal person to fork out 100-125 more for this over a S7 or similar. FAIL
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Those features are not there yet because there has to be something left for the coming generations of pixels in case there is no big development of software...
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prices are INSANE - I just bought a Nexus 5x

In Germany you have to pay 759€ for the version with 32GB.
Sorry Google but I just did something I thought I'd never do: buy a Nexus from last year instead buying the very best Google has to offer.
For 245€ I got a 32 GB Nexus 5x. A good upgrade form my 16GB Nexus 4 which I loved so much.
Sure, I get it: let's just price the Pixel nearly the same as an iPhone 7 but for a company that's doing 'its very own phone' (hello HTC) for the first time this price is just nuts.
I am so angry atm but I really want to hear your opinion on pricing. Except daydream VR this phone has simply nothing that stands out from the competition and now please don't come with the 'best camera in any smartphone'. I have waited for a big nexus upgrade for years now and I can't believe that this is ruined by a price that's beyond good and evil. I kinda waited the whole time for 'one more thing'.....the pixel will support Andromeda via USB type C in the future or something similar but no.
BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
Very happy that I got a Nexus 5x now so cheap!
I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
Masteryates said:
I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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I was burnt by the low ram on the Nexus 9 so I'm giving the 5x a miss. It will be the one plus 3 or a Nexus 6p if I see one at the right price. Thanks for the suggestion seb. :highfive:
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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N5 is not x86 its arm.
tohtorin said:
N5 is not x86 its arm.
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You re right I tend to confuse x86 with 32-bit. I'd meant 32-bit
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Here in Germany it starts at 759,00 € or $851.37.
I think it would be cheaper to buy it in the US and pay the taxes.
Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
$$$ no way Jose
Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
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My EXACT thoughts, as well. I recently made the switch away from Android for the first time to see what all the fuss was about with the iPhone 7. So far, I must admit that I am very pleased with the phone. Especially with how seamless it is with my Mac. But I was still anticipating the Pixel launch to see what Google had to offer. The phone itself looks great. But what you mentioned above is the big thing preventing me from returning the iPhone and getting the Pixel phone. With the iPhone, I'm locked in for two years but when the new one comes out next year I just take this one into the Apple store and walk out with the new one. It's a really great concept.
I'm afraid you are right about Google. I imagine if they were going to have an upgrade program, they would have announced it when discussing pricing to help justify the extremely high price point. Without that and with the resale value of these phones being about 50% 12 months after purchasing (based off what I've seen from the recent Nexus phones), the total cost to upgrade to the new Google phone every year just skyrocketed compared to what it used to be with the sub $450 nexus phones.
Because of this I'm having a very hard time trying to justify picking one up. Which is sad considering this will now be the first Nexus (i know... "Pixel") I haven't purchased after initial release.
EDIT: After wasting my afternoon reading tons of articles about the phone and watching the first few "hands on" videos, I decided to bite the bullet and purchase the 5" Pixel (Black, 128GB version). I have 3 more days to return my iPhone 7 for a full refund so it was either do it now or face the possibility of regret and be stuck with this $850 iPhone.
I still think the Pixel is overpriced but it does look to be an extremely solid phone. And I opted for the 128GB version to give myself a little future proofing. I'm planning on holding onto the Pixel for 2 years this time around, rather than making a quick phone jump again next year. This mindset helped me justify the price. Hopefully I can stick to that plan.
The pixel is so average, it has nothing my £300 OnePlus 3 doesn't have. Google's phone is overpriced and about as naff as their new bull**** chat app, Allo. Not impressed. Sub par. And those prices? Google has shot right up the ranks of overpriced **** to join Apple and Samsung. Ludicrous.
another thing I want to mention: Google spoke all the time about how Hardware and Software works together in this phone, especially with the Google assistant but hell, we all know that the assistant has nothing to do with hardware. It's just Android 7.1 and exclusivnes. Plus most of the talked about 'features' were just apps you can get in the playstore.
Another thing: if I buy an iPhone for the same price, I kind of know that I can sell it after like 11month for about 75% of the original price. NOT so with the pixel plus Apple provides the longest software updates. Just remember how freacking long the iPhone 4 was supported..!!
I am happy if my upcoming 5x would get fully featured Android 8. Even now when Android 7.1 seems ready they said that first betas can be expected by the end of the year..??!
I'd suggest the honor 8 if you want a one handed phone that's cheap and great quality
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trsix said:
Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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Me too, bought the Moto G4 Plus for 266 euro`s a week ago and its working perfect for me and has a front firing speaker. I`am never paying more then 400 euro`s tops for a phone again
Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
rosswaa said:
Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Nexus was never about premium feel. It was nexus just like an iphone is iphone. It was for people who wanted more from their device, who liked to tinker it, play with it. In short having a nexus meant you own your device and at affordable price.
Now with newer, pricier and premium pixel, they may hit new customers who like premium devices, people who change phones faster than seasons change, but they lost their fan base, tinkerers, developers. Most of them are students, young part time workers.
I feel pixel is just an iphone made by google and i m hugely disappointed. It may offer a great experience for user but as an android enthusiast, I don't see it's worth of that much money.
I was really interested in replacing my Honor 6 within the next months, but honestly, with those prices, I think I'll either stick with it, or go buying the Honor 8....
Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
Any recommendations for 5" pixel substitute? I need something unlocked but can't don't want to carry anything larger than 5.
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CplBasti said:
Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
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This sentence doesn't make any sense. The price has nothing to do with whether or not it is a "good" phone.
Quite frankly, the more I think about it, the more comfortable I am with the increased pricing. Over the years the Nexus sections of XDA have become overly saturated with kids whose parents bought their ~$350 phones for them and then they flood the Nexus sub-forums expecting to be spoon-fed everything without trying to learn things themselves from the plethora of guides and helpful posts readily available to them. All while refusing to contribute anything worthwhile to the community. It's gotten so bad that spending time in the Nexus forums has me wondering why I even bother anymore. Many developers have expressed the same feelings.
I'm really hoping the increased pricing of the Pixel phones will help keep the kids away and allow the Pixel forums to remain clean and full of people who actually like to contribute. Similar to how it was back in the early Nexus days.

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