As per title, I would like to configure my apple TV remote to work with the nexus player. The issue is Nexus Player doesn't even see the bluetooth remote when put in pairing mode.
Probably because it's an apple remote...and well... it's Apple...
Proprietary remotes are generally only going to work on their own devices... especially Apple products.....go and try to pair a Samsung air mouse remote from one of their smart TVs and see what happens..(it's Bluetooth too)...
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The Apple Remote won't pair with any bluetooth device because it's not bluetooth. It uses IR and has for the past 10 years. Although proprietary, it's very common on Kodi boxes and compatible out of the box with Lirc under Linux and Flirc USB dongles. But no, the Apple Remote won't pair with the nexus for the same reason a VCR remote won't pair...
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The Apple Remote won't pair with any bluetooth device because it's not bluetooth. It uses IR and has for the past 10 years. Although proprietary, it's very common on Kodi boxes and compatible out of the box with Lirc under Linux and Flirc USB dongles. But no, the Apple Remote won't pair with the nexus for the same reason a VCR remote won't pair...
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But it should work with a Flirc USB dongle?
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But it should work with a Flirc USB dongle?
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Yes, the Flicr will work with the Apple Remote and basically any IR remote https://www.flirc.tv/
I love the Apple Remote, I have two from my old Apple TV and MacBook, but at this point you'd be better off using a bluetooth remote, like the one that comes with the Amazon Fire TV Stick, the Satechi or any other. Since the Nexus Player already has Bluetooth why go and invest in a Flirc plus the USB-OTG adapter?
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This is not possible, correct? There is no IR "receiver" on the unit IIRC.
This will determine whether I put the Ouya in the main TV room where it's used by my wife and parents when they're over babysitting. Right now, I have the Apple TV2 and it's programmed in my Harmony so it's easy for them to use.
So, just to be sure, this can't be programmed with a universal remote?
There's no IR receiver, so the only think that comes to mind is a USB IR receiver, even then dunno what the remote would be able to actually control.
has anyone gotten cec to work with the ouya. there was a discussion on the ouya devs forum about it. cant post the link apparently
I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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I have a Logitech Harmony One and have the IR to Bluetooth adapter Logitech made for communication with the PS3.
I don't have my OUYA yet, but when I do get one, it will be the first thing that I attempt to use. It only simulates PS3 controller inputs, and from what I understand, PS3 controllers work with the OUYA? Obviously would have no clue how to pair the adapter with the OUYA, but will be fun to tinker nevertheless.
Regardless, for XBMC purposes, imo nothing beats Yatse on my Nexus 4. Sure it would be nice to have all-in-one with the Harmony, but Yatse is just too nice, esp with the plugins (SMS popups on the TV and auto-pause/resume for phone calls). So not end of the world, but still would be nice to see if I could with the Harmony. At very least I'd expect someone to come out with drivers and a usb dongle.
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I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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I have something similar myself. USB IR receiver with a remote that has a "touch disc" on it.
The device actually shows up on Windows as a Universal HID device that works as both a mouse & keyboard.
The media keys and stuff are mapped really oddly, but if you're gonna use it to drive XBMC, you can keymap all that crap without issue.
Then you'll have to make sure you put the receiver where you can get Line Of Sight.
Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
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Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
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How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
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How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
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I do and as far as xbmc navigation goes all the major functions work except for the pause and play button and volume but thats not a big deal since its programed to my tv. Navigating through the ouya menu isnt as good since the enter button doesnt work. Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again. One last thing is you'll need this app to pair it since ouya cant do it out of the box https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5qcG4uZnJvbnRpYS53YWthLkJsdWV0b290aCJd
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Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again.
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Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
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Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
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yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
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yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
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Thanks for the heads up. That's the kind of operational thing that makes a huge difference in how a device can be used, but you'd never know it from reading the spec sheet.
My plan for the Ouya was to use the PS3 remote, but the disconnect issue might be a big deal. I have a bluetooth mouse (microsoft brand) that I know goes to sleep when not in use, but it wakes up fast and connects fast. The sleep function is really not an issue for that bluetooth mouse.
I know the nexus player has usb, so the controller can be plugged in, however im not sure if it will work wirelessly or even at all for that matter. I am planning on buying a nexus player, and want to see if i can skip out on buying a controller for it.
Thanks
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I know the nexus player has usb, so the controller can be plugged in, however im not sure if it will work wirelessly or even at all for that matter. I am planning on buying a nexus player, and want to see if i can skip out on buying a controller for it.
Thanks
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The PS3 controller can be used on most any other rooted android device if you use the Sixaxis Controller app from the Play store. This does require root, however, so we'll have to wait for root before verifying that the PS3 controller will indeed work on the NP. I am near certain it will since it works great on the Nexus 7 and 10.
Once we have root, we can verify support with this checker app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dancingpixelstudios.sixaxiscompatibilitychecker
If it says yes, you'd purchase and install this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dancingpixelstudios.sixaxiscontroller&hl=en
I doubt there'd be a leanback interface for the app before root comes, but it'd most likely work as is.
The Sixaxis Controller app for Android doesn't seem to work with Android 5.0 anymore.
I tried it with my Nexus 7 (2012) running rooted stock 5.0, using SuperSU 2.23, and it errors out.
Looks like it's gonna have to be updated for Lollipop, so it might be a no-go for the Nexus Player for a while.
The sixaxis controller app just got updated to support lollipop, so I'm gonna try it tonight and I'll report back.
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The sixaxis controller app just got updated to support lollipop, so I'm gonna try it tonight and I'll report back.
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It works!!! Was getting some settings crashes and the app took a bit to pair but seems to be working ok now.
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It works!!! Was getting some settings crashes and the app took a bit to pair but seems to be working ok now.
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I wasn't able to get my Nexus Player to pair my controller, but I ended up just using my Nexus 7 to pair it. It's a pain to get it to work, but it seems to be working great on mine too.
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I wasn't able to get my Nexus Player to pair my controller, but I ended up just using my Nexus 7 to pair it. It's a pain to get it to work, but it seems to be working great on mine too.
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After pairing, what can you use your Nexus 7 as?
Oh. I just used my Nexus 7 to pair the controller with the Nexus Player. I didn't pair the Nexus 7 with the Nexus Player. I actually tried to do that, but I couldn't get the Nexus player to recognize the Nexus 7.
Grabbed a dualshock 4 ps4 controller today during BF sale. Paired with Nexus Player like a champ, haven't had time to check the touchpad functionality though but I am enjoying this controller for my gaming. I am going to try to pair both the DS3 and DS4 and see how they work together
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Grabbed a dualshock 4 ps4 controller today during BF sale. Paired with Nexus Player like a champ, haven't had time to check the touchpad functionality though but I am enjoying this controller for my gaming. I am going to try to pair both the DS3 and DS4 and see how they work together
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To clarify, does the DS4 pair with the NP out of the box, or does it require root and an app? As dumb as this question sounds, my understanding is that the DS4 pairs with Bluetooth enabled PCs much more easily than the DS3 did, so I'm wondering if Android treats it any differently.
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To clarify, does the DS4 pair with the NP out of the box, or does it require root and an app? As dumb as this question sounds, my understanding is that the DS4 pairs with Bluetooth enabled PCs much more easily than the DS3 did, so I'm wondering if Android treats it any differently.
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Truth be told I didn't even try it straight to the NP I used sixaxis right away. It works great. The new sixaxis app sometimes finds my DS3 as a fake controller other times it works fine but the DS4 always pops in fine. the touchpad is tweaky at best so i tend not to use it but this will be extremely handy once it is fixed properly.
Just tried it straight Bluetooth. The NP sees it as a Bluetooth controller but fails at pairing it. Tried multiple times but the NP just hangs. I really wish the Bluetooth stack in Android would finally support these devices (DS4, wiimotes, etc) properly...
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Just tried it straight Bluetooth. The NP sees it as a Bluetooth controller but fails at pairing it. Tried multiple times but the NP just hangs. I really wish the Bluetooth stack in Android would finally support these devices (DS4, wiimotes, etc) properly...
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I'm not sure that's a failing of Android. It's Nintendo/Sony using proprietary software with their hardware. Windows won't recognize them 100% without 3rd party software as well, as far as I remember.
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I'm not sure that's a failing of Android. It's Nintendo/Sony using proprietary software with their hardware. Windows won't recognize them 100% without 3rd party software as well, as far as I remember.
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The android bluetooth stack has gone through a few changes over the last couple of version which have wreaked havoc on third party accessories.
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The android bluetooth stack has gone through a few changes over the last couple of version which have wreaked havoc on third party accessories.
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While this is correct, it doesn't change the fact that Nintendo and Sony use proprietary software with their hardware, thus negating whatever bluetooth stack is being used.
That said, prior to Android 4.3, the Bluetooth stack used on your Android device was up to the OEM, and it differed from device to device. With Android 4.3, Google told OEMs which BT stack to use. This is to help with compatibility and consistency.
I read in another thread that you cannot have both sixaxis (for PS3 / PS4 controller etc) and the remote working at the same time. Wonder if anything can be done about that?
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While this is correct, it doesn't change the fact that Nintendo and Sony use proprietary software with their hardware, thus negating whatever bluetooth stack is being used.
That said, prior to Android 4.3, the Bluetooth stack used on your Android device was up to the OEM, and it differed from device to device. With Android 4.3, Google told OEMs which BT stack to use. This is to help with compatibility and consistency.
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The wii remote doesn't use "proprietary software" that negates the bluetooth stack. it connects to pc bluetooth stacks fine. in fact android can detect the wii remote it just won't pair with it. cyanogen had actually included support for wii remotes in CM11 as long as your kernel supports wiimotes (most kernels just a downported driver).
This article http://lwn.net/Articles/597293/
has some interesting info on the bluetooth stack change.
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I'm not sure that's a failing of Android. It's Nintendo/Sony using proprietary software with their hardware. Windows won't recognize them 100% without 3rd party software as well, as far as I remember.
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I am able to pair my DS4 with with my Droid Turbo running 4.4.4 w/ no 3rd party software. Although it could be possible that Motorola modified the BT stack to allow this? It also paired w/ my old OPO and N5 both running CM11s. It would not pair w/ the N5 running vanilla KK. It doesn't seem like it's too hard to include whatever it is to make the DS4 compatible with android but for some reason Google doesn't include it out of the box. My DS4 also pairs w/ my MS Surface 2 Pro on Windows 8.1 with no special drivers or software.
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Oh. I just used my Nexus 7 to pair the controller with the Nexus Player. I didn't pair the Nexus 7 with the Nexus Player. I actually tried to do that, but I couldn't get the Nexus player to recognize the Nexus 7.
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How did you get the Nexus 7 to pair your PS3 controller with the Nexus Player? Could you let us know how you pulled it off?
I've side-loaded the Sixaxis controller app onto my nexus player and can't get it to connect. It did once, but crashed instantly and deleted my NP remote from the 'remote & accessories' menu lol. Causing me to resort to a factory reset to get it back.
I can pair the controller with the N7, no problem, NP just doesn't want to work. Any guidance would be appreciated
I think you may have been able to use a phone/tablet with the android tv remote app to re-add the stock remote. Not sure but worth a try over a FR.
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How did you get the Nexus 7 to pair your PS3 controller with the Nexus Player? Could you let us know how you pulled it off?
Ive side-loaded the Sixaxis controller app onto my nexus player and cant get it to connect. It did once, but crashed instantly and deleted my NP remote from the remote & accessories menu lol. Causing me to resort to a factory reset to get it back.
I can pair the controller with the N7, no problem, NP just doesnt want to work. Any guidance would be appreciated
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Open the Sixaxis app on the nexus player and start it, and it'll show the Mac address of the nexus player. If you open it on your nexus 7 and connect the controller with a USB OTG cable, and click pair inside the sixaxis app, it'll prompt you to enter the Mac address, and it'll have the nexus 7's Mac address by default. Change it to the Mac address displayed on the nexus player. Once that's done, disconnect it and click the PS button. It should connect to the nexus player instead. I got it to work well, but I had the same issue and my nexus player remote stopped working, so I haven't looked into it any further.
My Nexus Player somehow linked up to my Sony TV remote. Any idea how this happened? My Nexus Player remote unpairs constantly and I think that is the reason why.
Actually I fought a lot with my LG to get the tv's remote to pair with nexus, so my case was the other way around. It seems that in order to use the tv remote with the player I had to enable HDMI-CEC on my TV. This HDMI-CEC has different names on different tvs. For LG is Simplink, for Sony I believe it's Bravia Sync. If you disable this, I think the remote will not pair. However, there is a chance the the TV will not switch to Player input when casting a video. I have them both paired (nexus player remote and tv remote) and I have no problems.
i think the remote uses wifi? rather then bluetooth
will it work
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I too would like to know. I'm looking for a decent simple WiFi remote because I'm using a DualShock 4 controller with Bluetooth overridden so I can only attach other wireless accessories via WiFi, USB or IR. I don't particularly care whether or not the microphone works as I've never yet actually used voice search.
It's probably a silly question, but just wondering and ask. Thanks
Harmony Hub with Harmony App maybe.
I have a Comcast app that lets me control my DVR including changing the channel.
You can use a wireless Global cache itach IR blaster with Touchsquid app but it'll cost you over $100 to get it working that way.
Only thing I really miss about HTC...
I've used TV (Samsung) Touchpad Remote and it works great, for a Samsung TV of course. I've also used Smart Remote, that works on every TV connected to the network. If you have a networked TV there are a few options.
My girlfriend bought me an anymote ir blaster, its awesome! I can control my stuff with my 6p or my work iPad basically anything needing an ir connection with anymote. Highly recommended it'll run you about $100 but works.
Depends on your TV, my LG has an app that works over WiFi. I'm guessing other models have similar applications.